What should we worry about more?

[zen]

Ok we know that America's time on top of the world is coming to an end, also we know that humans time on earth are coming to an end. Along with the common people issues with money and such. I want to know what are you more scared of the natural end of the world ie:global warming, no fuel,pollution and such. Or the end of our land (America) ie: economy,terrorism,war,government and such. Both of these are very big issues, but I want to know which one you think we should be more afraid of. I personally think that we should be more afraid of this fuel thing, because we have ideas and some new technology, But nothing is like ground breaking to the point of saying ok we can focus on something else. So c'mon people what do y'all think.

[Graffik]

Well, I do agree with you on the case of worrying more of the global issues, but that's just common sense in my opinion. We can have the best economy and all those things, but there's no use if the land we live on is inhospitable. Most people don't see issues like global warming as a threat since it is more of a gradual thing and would more likely effect our grandchildren then us directly. But we see the damaging effects and should take a stand against it.

To me, the global issues are more worrying because, if left untouched, they'll be impossible to reverse. Rebuilding a nation isn't easy but at least it's possible. Besides allocating all the resources we have to more destructive purposes is pretty contradictory to our constructive purpose. We want to build our nation but are in a war that is damaging our troops and adding to the animocity against us. It's better to direct more resources to something that'll really help us in the future. Don't get me wrong, 3000 people died in 9/11 numbers I'd hate to see again, but we do. The war is adding to the number of victims, then there's the fact that the military was able to scrap together some $40 billion + to fight, while there's 8000+ people dying in Africa daily of aids.

I'd like to keep ranting my nonsensical bullshit, but I gotta conclude somewhere. While we do need to worry a lot of the more immediate future, that doesn't mean we should through away the real future, which we should be working to improve, and not destroy. Of course, the complications of life, and the entire system that governs it just isn't that simple is it. :whatevah:

Somethings just need some real thought, what are our goals?

[zen]

Great answer, but when you said why have a great economy and a crappy world. shouldn't it be the same in reverse why have a great planet with a bull crap nation, plus if we fixed the economy wouldn't that kinda help first. well let me get technical because i can be unclear at times, i mean if we fix the world first than our nation is crap so wouldn't that like make more pollution, and less funding to help keep it in tact. If our economy is bad where will the scientist get there money to find a way to help on global warming?

[Dradam]

I am insulted that you think that americas time as a world leader coming to an end is a bad thing.
Its a bout time a different country had power, especially since America's government is so tyrannical!
I think the thing that people should worry the most about is global warming, civilisations come and go so does money and fuels. However global warming could mean the end of this planet as a habitat for life, which includes our extinction. This is what the main concern should be.

[Graffik]

Great answer, but when you said why have a great economy and a crappy world. shouldn't it be the same in reverse why have a great planet with a bull crap nation, plus if we fixed the economy wouldn't that kinda help first. well let me get technical because i can be unclear at times, i mean if we fix the world first than our nation is crap so wouldn't that like make more pollution, and less funding to help keep it in tact. If our economy is bad where will the scientist get there money to find a way to help on global warming?

Well when you mentioned economy you pretty much meant the American economy, and we all know how corrupt that system is. Every bit of it is about nothing but profit, they will hack and slash at everything else until there's nothing to hack, and slash till there's nothing to slash. Giving the economy more power will just allocate the small amount of resources we are dedicating to useful research to something like shady business deals, petro prices anyone?

If you meant the spending of money of a better, less corrupt economic system being put into place, however, I agree with you, and that should be a primary concern. Though, in my opinion whenever economy improvements are mentioned, it meant more power to corporations who extort power and are abusive to everything and everyone. Of course I'm a bit biased on this opinion, afterall my stance on economy is that power and destruction runs parallel.

I am insulted that you think that americas time as a world leader coming to an end is a bad thing.
Its a bout time a different country had power, especially since America's government is so tyrannical!
I think the thing that people should worry the most about is global warming, civilisations come and go so does money and fuels. However global warming could mean the end of this planet as a habitat for life, which includes our extinction. This is what the main concern should be.

Actually, I do think America losing it's power is a devastating thing, as there are many nations whose economical status are almost entirely dependant on the US. I live in Canada and 80% of our exports go to the States. If they crumble, we crumble, and I'm sure there are a lot of other nations like Japan, and I suppose [not sure] Britain would be devestated by a sudden US flatline.

Then you have to see it from the stance that global warming is not an [i]immediate problem. [not my opinion, playing the devils advocate] Also, I believe any other country would be somewhat abusive of power if they had USA's position. I'd rather see things worked out properly from an inside out job, every country chips in there own piece and helps out. Of course, such a thing is out of the question, and practically impossible. A man can dream though.

[Dradam]

Britain feel the effects of a US flatline!!
What do you think the UK is in now?
The UK is already in alot of deep crap because of the american market. Northern Rock (bank) crashed because of the US markets, the international market is far too dependant on things like these and far too weak.
Britain is heading for a depression because of the american markets, if america loses its position sure there'll be a depression, but without america as the main power the economy would be far more stable. That and i just dont agree with the american ethos... I don't like the brand of democracy that the american government is trying to spread.

[Graffik]

On the note of democracy, I freaking completely agree with you, I'm so glad Canada has the same system as Britain, lol.

Well, I definately don't want to be alive during the next depression, no computers... money... food?? I immigrated from Africa for these reasons IMO.

But, instead of the US being shut-down, I'd rather see a country surpass the US, that way, the economy won't face devestation and etc. There are a lot of reasonable candidates for this purpose, especially because the US has been wasting resources on a war where there is no win or lose.

[Dradam]

Who would you rather surpass the US? Britain is the US's lapdog as much as i hate to admit it... especially after Blair, China? i am sorry but their system is worse, so much censorship... The japanese? too much of a culture shock, the russians? too much bad history... French? not likely, germans? after the world wars? Italians, they dont have the population or labour force...
Tbh i think americas going to stay in power for a fair bit longer, untill the next worlk war methinks... Unfortunately...

[Graffik]

Haha, I rather see Cuba surpass the US. Realizing Fidel Castro's dream, and making every damned Republican shit his pants.

When you brought that up, I realized that sadly, there is no country that would do much better. The US I'm afraid is the one country where things might work, China = Communism, and well everything you said. Maybe if USA just cleaned it's act up things would work out.

Another world war would be the last thing I'd like to see, I don't want to see the draft again. When I suspect world-war, I'm beefing up, become unfit, damn them.

[Dradam]

3rd world war we wont know bout it...
It'll all be nukes, sitting there one minute the next we're paste on the floor... n tbh best way to go...

[zen]

yea America would press our red button and the other countries satellites would pick them up in like 2 seconds and 1 second later there would be missiles everywhere.

[Guy]

I'd say the environment. Bush needs to open his eyes and realize that the age of oil, petroleum, etc, is coming to an end and that we will eventually run out. We should start emphasizing on alternative energy such as wind, solar, fuel cells and so on. Funny, America hates losing in everything, but they don't seem to mind losing in the alternative energy technology race. That is something I can't comprehend.

I am insulted that you think that americas time as a world leader coming to an end is a bad thing.
Its a bout time a different country had power, especially since America's government is so tyrannical!

If America's economy and political power weakens, then this will effect the world on a grand scale. Whether you like it or not, America DOES impact the world greatly, and for desiring such immediate end to a superpower brings nothing but disaster. This has NOTHING to do with hating or loving America; this is about taking a rational and logical standpoint.

China? i am sorry but their system is worse, so much censorship..

LMAO! I went to China this winter and the ONLY website blocked is wikipedia that I know of.