View Full Version : chapter 205:Mala-Suerte! 3 "Monstruo Monstruoso" (Script+ LQ Raw)
asukasun
11-24-2005, 03:01 PM
Great chapter and I canīt wait to read the next .... I really want to know how the fight ends ... Ikakus bankai name is "Ryuushin Hoozukimaru" and looks very big and powerful
the Script is here and the raw also:
http://www.bleachforums.com/showthread.php?t=10262
Manga7 translation:
http://www.bleach7.com
Polygon
11-24-2005, 04:14 PM
Wow, his bankai sucks.
You can't say that. And it looks uber awesome. Looks like that dragon is the key to his power.
General Cox
11-24-2005, 04:58 PM
i think his ban kai looks cool, just read the english version, itll be easier to see it when he uses it again, they dont get across some of the more subtle movements in the manga, that they are able to get through in moving pictures.
who do you think won?
asukasun
11-24-2005, 05:05 PM
i think Ikaku will win ... he seems to be more powerful
I'd have to agree, his bankai is crazy
omfgman
11-24-2005, 07:21 PM
lol but how can he move in that thing? its freaking huge... but it kinda reminds me of hitsugaya's bankai
DKzM0mA
11-24-2005, 10:38 PM
Looks like 3 blades. 2 he holds in his hand and one bigass one hung on his back. He uses the two in his hands normally and he's able to spin it the one on his back i think...I have to say, its not the most imaginative bankai-_-...
Capthxc
11-24-2005, 10:40 PM
Probibly one of my new more favorite bankai's now, its awesome. I think ikkaku is going to win this one but hes going to be injured pretty bad or die shortly after.
omfgman
11-25-2005, 12:42 AM
wat do you guys think of his bankai's power level?
is it going to be as strong as ichigo's when he first fought byakuya? or stronger perhaps?
Herjan
11-25-2005, 12:48 PM
I dont see how that kind of ban-kai can offer any defence against Byakuyas.
Ichigos speed was the key to defeating Byakuya no doubt.
asukasun
11-25-2005, 04:25 PM
Manga7 translation is out (www.bleach7.com)
MetalgearV2
11-25-2005, 06:03 PM
i like ikkaku's bankai, it suits him to have some huge ass swords and such, cant wait to see it when its at full power!
ocasas
11-25-2005, 06:15 PM
[Ju-Ni]'s version is out... found it here (http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YGDT7CIMDLYM2MZ91NEMLGIWA) meanwhile. later at bleachportal
Zangetsu Tensa
11-25-2005, 06:19 PM
I dont see how that kind of ban-kai can offer any defence against Byakuyas.
Ichigos speed was the key to defeating Byakuya no doubt.
He could swing it around a lot and scatter the blades like flies into a fan. Or whirl it around enough to create a sort of wind funnel that would redirect the petals. There's more than one approach to attacking a bankai.
Polygon
11-25-2005, 06:24 PM
He could swing it around a lot and scatter the blades like flies into a fan. Or whirl it around enough to create a sort of wind funnel that would redirect the petals. There's more than one approach to attacking a bankai.
Also it must have some special ability. In my opinion any bankai is capable of stopping anyother bankai. the same for shinkai. it's just how you use it.
Samiizz
11-25-2005, 09:05 PM
that is true..
but there are some BanKai's that look more powerful than other..
jonat3
11-25-2005, 09:17 PM
He could swing it around a lot and scatter the blades like flies into a fan. Or whirl it around enough to create a sort of wind funnel that would redirect the petals. There's more than one approach to attacking a bankai.
You are assuming the petals will come from one direction. Byakuya's petals can attack from all directions. Ikkaku is not nearly fast enough to deflect all of them with his bankai blades. And i don't think it likely he can create wind tunnels with it. Would be cool if he could though (assuming wind attacks even work on spiritiual objects).
You are assuming the petals will come from one direction. Byakuya's petals can attack from all directions. Ikkaku is not nearly fast enough to deflect all of them with his bankai blades. And i don't think it likely he can create wind tunnels with it. Would be cool if he could though (assuming wind attacks even work on spiritiual objects).
Yes, no way Ikkaku's bankai can beat Byakuya's. Byakuya has two stages of bankai, in his first stage, it seems he can manipulate the pedals anyway he wants. So they can come from all directions doing all sorts of crazy stuff. I'm not really sure what his second stage really does, maybe the swords all aim together or something.
Ikkaku's bankai to me isn't very impressive. Compared what I've seen with the Captains' bankais, it is nowhere as cool. It doesnt feel very extravagant like a bankai usually does. And nothing really happens except for a small tornado when he released it.
Its probalby just not as developed as Byakuya's. I mean hes been a captain for how long? And has been able to use bankai for longer than hes been a captain, hes just had more practice cause he hasnt kept his hidden like Ikkaku has. Its experience thats all.
Z_Blitz
11-25-2005, 11:44 PM
To correct all of you here... Byakuya has three levels of Bankai (re-watch episode 59 to double check) and thus he is way over Ikkaku's level... His bankai is just too friggin' ridiculous! Its huge and seems to have a lot of power packed in it... but it just doesn't give me the "Oh its bankai... WOW!" feeling... Didn't like it at all... I wish he would die already... I mean he has been beaten by Ichigo and probably got owned by Iba so he should die now... Besides Yumichika did ask for the people at Soul Society to prepare a funeral for Ikkaku... Its been a while since a character in Bleach died anyways... They should kill some characters here and there, that'll spice up things a bit...
Aragami
11-26-2005, 12:00 AM
He might die, but don't forget, bankai or not, his power is toned down a lot. All of their's is, save ichigo, since he isn't a shinigami per se. Although, we can't really assume such for the other dude. For all we know, that's his "bankai" at his max. And if the author stays true to common manga patterns, such a giant guy is going to get shut down HARD.
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as to Ikkaku's bankai... I'd say it definitely suits him...
As to its actual effectiveness... well I can see why he's not a captain.... but it is definitely above shikai level.... also... while Ikakku is strong (he said it himself) his spiritual pressure is nothing to marvel at....
All in all I feel that this bankai was executed properly.... it doesn't down play the strength of most of the other bankai we've seen....(those are on a different level than Ikkaku's for the most part) but it is significanlty stronger and I would call it ...mediocre at best....
all the same... it is nice to see definite differences in strength... It makes this less ...mmm ...overpowered....
kagenutto
11-26-2005, 12:28 AM
Okay, this is just stupid to me.
First off, if ikkaku was able to achieve ban kai, why the hell did he let Ichigo beat him without ban kai? That's just retarded. Also, why han't he tried to move up from third seat to another position if he can do ban kai?
Another thing, did he achieve ban kai the normal way? Like Renji? Which means if he's achieved it relatively recently then he has zero experience with using it's power and anyone with real ability to use a ban kai should beat his butt down. Which is why Byakuya was able to easily defeat Renji despite him having a ban kai. Ichigo did a trick to let him achieve in a few days the experience needed to nearly master his level of ban kai that he achieved in a matter of days instead of years.
Also, what the hell is up with everyone all of a sudden having ban kai? That's retarded too since it's suppose to be very very very rare. Rare enough that basically the captains and perhaps a few vice captains can use it. All of a sudden third seats are using it with impunity?
So far this is the worst manga episode out of all them. It's reminding me of DBZ when all of a sudden everyone can do super sayjin. When it gets to that point. Ikkaku should have been left at the power he had when Ichigo faced him. Which is not enough to beat a vice captain. That's the amount of power Ichigo had when he came to soul society before releasing his ban kai and achieving a little beyond captain level power. I could understand him reaching maybe vice captain level but that's it. Either he should have his butt handed to him, or someone comes to save him. That's about all. Personally, I think he should just kick the bucket. He's a minor character and that's what minor characters are for. Expendability.
Gah, I just hope the coming episodes aren't as dumb where everyone all of a sudden starts using ban kai from taking soul society spirit steroids or something else as flaky.
Ikkaku already had his butt handed to him once, it's over so get rid of him.
GaryDAI
11-26-2005, 01:36 AM
Also, what the hell is up with everyone all of a sudden having ban kai? That's retarded too since it's suppose to be very very very rare. Rare enough that basically the captains and perhaps a few vice captains can use it. All of a sudden third seats are using it with impunity?
Beside's captains and ex-captains, 3 people have bankai. Wow, that sure is alot!!! That's like 3 in a million shinigamis? :rolleye09
This is the 11th division as well. They probably fight 24/7. Ikkaku will never be able to become a VC in the 11th either, with Yachiru in front of him :P Who would want to mess with her ^_^
I also have a feeling that Renji was the former 4th seat of the 11th division. Or you could make the case that the VC of Komamura division use to be the 4th, since he use to be in the 11th too? We have never seen the 4th & 6th seat, but we definitely know Renji & Iba were in the 11th div.
Polygon
11-26-2005, 01:48 AM
For those of you that say that he's not even at VC level and has bankai, yet are alright with renji having basnkai. He is on a VC level. It makes sense, he is in the 11th division. Yarichu is probaley on low-captian level. and he got bankai just like renji did.
Its fine for him to have bankai, give the guy a break. =p
sw33tdr3ams
11-26-2005, 02:13 AM
Okay, this is just stupid to me.
First off, if ikkaku was able to achieve ban kai, why the hell did he let Ichigo beat him without ban kai? That's just retarded. Also, why han't he tried to move up from third seat to another position if he can do ban kai?
if u remember... which u probably don't... but anyway... at the time ichigo fought wif ikkaku... they weren't allowed to release their zanpakuto's... so... ikkaku... if he had bankai at the time... wans't allwed to use it anyway!... plus... im sure if u got beat by a noob then der ur gonna train harder to beat them... rite?? so ikkaku could've been like renji... near to obtaining bankai... and just needed time to get it... if he already didn't have it... am i making sence??... :confused:
and to the other question... y do u think iba left?? because he couldn't become VC... but he was VC level... so its possible tat ikkaku is VC level... and renji was in 11th too... and he's VC... all.. so give him a break... ikkaku is a cool caracter... it would be so stoopid if he dies!!
GaryDAI
11-26-2005, 02:27 AM
Don't forget the 5th seat! What's his name? Yumichika? He beat a VC pretty easily.
11th division is insane imo. They have/produced about 4 VC?
mottesheard
11-26-2005, 04:16 AM
Yeah, they've always said that the 11th division is the strongest. Heck, I wouldn't be suprised if every member of officer level were at least near VC level in that division, at least in combat ability if not spirit force.
ChansteR
11-26-2005, 04:17 AM
that is why they are known to be the "strongest" division in their opinion and those who havent downloaded the stuff yet, this is a nice pic to see
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3561/ikkakubankai1za.png
GaryDAI
11-26-2005, 04:27 AM
Hope someone colors that soon!
Shouldn't he be out of blood by now? ^_^
mottesheard
11-26-2005, 05:34 AM
Shouldn't he be out of blood by now? ^_^
heh, knowing Ikkaku, he's having so much fun fighting that he won't realize that he ran out of blood a long time ago until after the fight's over.
Kyouka Suigetsu
11-26-2005, 09:04 AM
Didn't the crest on his bankai fill in completely already? That should basically guarantee victory, but he's going to be MESSED up afterwards.
Offkorn
11-26-2005, 12:26 PM
if u remember... which u probably don't... but anyway... at the time ichigo fought wif ikkaku... they weren't allowed to release their zanpakuto's... so... ikkaku... if he had bankai at the time... wans't allwed to use it anyway.
Ikkaku DID release his Soul Slayer in the fight with Ichigo.
sw33tdr3ams
11-26-2005, 01:11 PM
yea.. his shikai... i think it would've been ok to release ur shikai... but not his bankai... IF he had it... plus... i did say tat if u did get beat by a noob then u would try REAL hard to get to a higher level! i mean.. 11th div aint quitters... i mean.. they'll keep on gettin stronger and stronger if they get beat... pls dun pick and choose wat i write and try use it against me... i did say IF he had bankai... who noes... he may have had it and he may not have had it... but i dun see y ppl are finding it so hard to believe he has bankai... i mean.. y not?
mottesheard
11-26-2005, 02:15 PM
Being that Ikkaku was so loath to release his Bankai, saying that doing so was "cheap", if he did have it when he fought Ichigo, he wouldn't have used it.
It's crazy. We'll probably see alot of the VCs get Ban Kai as well.
SmallKid57
11-26-2005, 03:27 PM
idk.. ikkaku's bankai is just 3 swords, it cant do anything special yet. all he does is jump around and slash.
BUT, once that dragon thing fills up... then well... we'll c. but i hope its super powerful, b/c the thing he has now doesn't exactly pack a punch
General Cox
11-26-2005, 05:03 PM
yeah, his ban kai is like ichigo's atm, he hasnt developed an ultimate form of it
he siced through the arrancur's zanpakutou like butter, i think he will come through ^_^
Offkorn
11-27-2005, 05:47 AM
yea.. his shikai... i think it would've been ok to release ur shikai... but not his bankai... IF he had it...
Remember Byakuya releasing his Shinkai to destroy Ganju? Remember how Captain Ukitake grabbed him and asked him why he was doing something illegal?
plus... i did say tat if u did get beat by a noob then u would try REAL hard to get to a higher level!
Ikkaku didn't consider Ichigo a "noob". Once he learned he was trained by Urahara, he went all-out.
but i dun see y ppl are finding it so hard to believe he has bankai... i mean.. y not?
Because it takes years to master, and as Byakuya said about Ichigo in their last fight; "Only the strongest Shinigamis can use it", "Even the Noble families...only have a member capable of Bankai every few generations.", "Those that achieve Bankai always have remarkable roles in the history of Soul Society.".
That's chapter 162 if you want to confirm it.
Zangetsu Tensa
11-27-2005, 06:57 AM
I was one of the most skeptical concerning Ikkaku's bankai, and I've since been doing some thinking in an effort to justify it. What I've come up with is this:
Usually, there are at any time at least 13 individuals in Soul Society capable of bankai. Zaraki, being the single exceptional captain in all of Soul Society's history, knocks that number down to 12.
At any time, a captain might die, defect, etc. When Unohana was examining Aizen's corpse, she commented that a new captain could and would be selected by the current system - and there is a very specific and routine system for selecting future captains, with three seperate ways to become a captain, which strikes me as odd instead of there being just one uniform method of selection.
The third method of selection allows for a challenger to kill the current captain and take his place, removing even the need for a current captain to lose his position.
All this considered, there absolutely must always be a pool of powerful individuals with bankai that Soul Society can call upon to take the captain rank when nessessary. In order for Soul Society to fill all 13 slots again right now, there would have to already be at least three people with bankai. Renji is one, Ikkaku is another, leaving the plot open for a third. Remember that Tousen, Gin, Komamura - indeed, most of the current captains - were once low ranking shinigami as well - they might have achieved their bankais at any point during their rise through the ranks. They certainly had to have their bankai before they reached captain level, so all in all it's not a stretch to say that Ikakku can't have bankai at rank three.
Kyouka Suigetsu
11-27-2005, 08:06 AM
Thank you. Your comment is the most intelligent thing I've read today in referrence to Ikkaku achieving bankai. Hmm, I wonder who the 3rd person will be.
Injektilo
11-27-2005, 09:51 AM
Well if we think about it then Zangetsu Tensas' theory makes perfect sense, Yoruichi and Urahara left at the same time leaving two spaces to fill, Kurotsuchi and Soi Fong must have had Bankai prior to becoming Captains otherwise Zaraki wouldn't be the first to not have it. Byakuya and Gin became Captains at almost the same time too so the principle must apply then, two (at least) lieutenants with Bankai, and my chronology isn't up to snuff so perhaps Hitsugaya became a Captain fairly soon after that, in which case we have 3 non-Captain officers with Bankai at the same time.
I'm guessing that it's usual for about 15-16 Shinigami to have attained Bankai and be around at the same time, we're still in line with Byakuyas' statement: 15-16 out of tonnes (Even if the Shinigami only number in the hundreds, 15-16 out of 500 or so is still pretty elite, and I see the Shinigami easily numbering several thousand, perhaps tens of thousands) of Death Gods with Bankai does mean that it's ludicrously hard to achieve and that only the greatest can get it.
Offkorn
11-27-2005, 03:41 PM
Those are good points, they still don't address one thing though:
How did he achieve Bankai within the short span of time between fighting with Iba and coming to Earth?
He obviously didn't have Bankai while fighting Ichigo, and had no time to train before fighting Iba, so at the time that Ichigo and friends leave SS he does not have Bankai. That means he'd have to have learned it in the few days between Ichigo getting back to Earth and the group of them showing up.
Zangetsu Tensa
11-27-2005, 05:40 PM
How did he achieve Bankai within the short span of time between fighting with Iba and coming to Earth?
I have given this some thought, and I was lead to the conclusion that makes the most sense to me.
He obviously didn't have Bankai while fighting Ichigo.
Actually, I believe that he DID have Bankai while fighting Ichigo. This raises an obvious question - why didn't he use it? The answer is complicated.
Ichigo was at shikai, just like Ikkaku. They had been fighting for some time at an even level, and Ikkaku himself had commented on how Ichigo's abilities were on par with his own. If Ikkaku had unleashed his bankai at that point, his power would have multiplied to fifteen times as great as Ichigo's.
The result would have been a slaughter.
Now, remember that Ikkaku is a member of 11th squad, a squad that loves fighting and the challenge of fighting. When confronted with a foe that is about even with him, in the eyes of 11th squad using a bankai would be nothing short of cowardly. Ikkaku wanted to fight fairly.
But Ikkaku thought he would die if he lost to Ichigo, you might point out. Surely he would have used his bankai if it meant saving his life?
Actually, he wouldn't. In a recent manga, Yumichika commented on how 11th squad is prepared to accept death with complete satisfaction, so long as they enjoy the fight. 11th squad members do not help each other in a 1v1, and nor will they call their bankai out to help them against an even opponent. Death is not a big deal for 11th squad. Yumichika commented once that "in 11th squad, defeat means death." They go into battle expecting death if they lose, and yet they all restrain themselves in one way or another (all of them use their zanpakutos directly, for instance).
Crazy? Perhaps. Ichigo once told Zaraki, "You're crazy! You love fighting that much? Aren't you afraid of getting cut or dying?" And Zaraki replied, "You're the crazy one! How can you be that strong and not love fighting? Death and pain are just the cost of fun."
This alone is enough to account for Ikkaku being willing to risk his life against Ichigo even if it meant not using his bankai, but evidence in the manga suggests there might be other reasons too. Yumichika expects Ikkaku to die, and tells Soul Society to prepare for his funeral, and yet it's obvious that Yumichika knows that Ikkaku has bankai because after Ikkaku unleashes it, Yumichika says "So, you've decided to use it after all." Yumichika knew that Ikakku had bankai, and yet thought that Ikkaku would die rather than use it.
And remember what Ikkaku said before he unleashed it. "Better watch closely and make sure you don't tell a ****in' soul!" For whatever reason, he doesn't want people to know about his bankai. I doubt he'd have unleashed it in the middle of Soul Society for everyone to sense and/or see.
In conclusion, we don't know for how long Ikkaku had bankai, but there's absolutely no reason to believe that he didn't have it before and during his fight with Ichigo.
jonat3
11-27-2005, 07:24 PM
There's a much simpler answer why he didn't use bankai against Ichigo. Ikkaku stated that he's been hiding his bankai (probably from Zaraki and Yachiru). Don't you think that using bankai WITHIN SS, would be a dead give away to others that he had bankai?
Zangetsu Tensa
11-27-2005, 07:31 PM
There's a much simpler answer why he didn't use bankai against Ichigo. Ikkaku stated that he's been hiding his bankai (probably from Zaraki and Yachiru). Don't you think that using bankai WITHIN SS, would be a dead give away to others that he had bankai?
Yeah I included that in my explaination.
And remember what Ikkaku said before he unleashed it. "Better watch closely and make sure you don't tell a ****in' soul!" For whatever reason, he doesn't want people to know about his bankai. I doubt he'd have unleashed it in the middle of Soul Society for everyone to sense and/or see.
Fariswheel
11-28-2005, 01:05 AM
Another possible reason would be that useing his Bankai would drain him some what, and in context with the other reasons, he did not want to exaust himself.
Also, he might not want to just crush him because that would be bad for his reputation, allowing for him to crush an enemy is not the style of 11 division.
Yachiru_chan
11-28-2005, 11:52 AM
I think the thing is that 11th Division loves fighting. If you notice with all their fights they start off at the most basic level, in Ikkaku's case unreleased from and work their way up. They want it to be an even fight because they like the fight, and not so much the winning that matters. This is like Kenpachi's quote 'If you kill, or are killed, it's just a way to kill time'. He wouldn't have relased it when fighting with Ichigo, becasue they were on about an equal footing. The other thing is, that his loss to a ryoka may have improved his determination to get stronger.
Offkorn
11-28-2005, 01:42 PM
Hmm, good points, though one minor inconsistancy:
1. Ichigo didn't know how to use his Shinkai at that point in time.
Also, after reading back in the Manga, it seems that it uses different words then the anime (or possibly it's just the different translators), as in the manga he only says "Then that means...It would be very rude of me to kill you too easily.".
tednfs
11-28-2005, 04:27 PM
ichigo needs to learn the other arts of the shingami..he cant expect to use only shunpo..what about demon arts....
i think if there is a showdown between ichigo and aizen any point in time..he's gonna get his ass wiped
shit aizen took down down 10captain in one hit
Kyouka Suigetsu
11-28-2005, 07:50 PM
Other than his incredible reiatsu, Aizen's soul slayer is what allows him to take down opponents so easily. Kyouka Suigetsu pretty much gives you the ability to walk right up to an opponent, kick him in the nuts, and then decapitate him. Because none of them could track his movements they were all pretty much sitting ducks. Not being able to attack or defend in a battle basically means you're screwed..............big time.
Polygon
11-28-2005, 07:54 PM
Other than his incredible reiatsu, Aizen's soul slayer is what allows him to take down opponents so easily. Kyouka Suigetsu pretty much gives you the ability to walk right up to an opponent, kick him in the nuts, and then decapitate him. Because none of them could track his movements they were all pretty much sitting ducks. Not being able to attack or defend in a battle basically means you're screwed..............big time.
Ya. Not only do you need to know of the ability or at least figure it out. You also need incredible will power. Because while it may not directly control you it can make you feel, see, hear, smell and taste anything. Youalso need a way to hit him. In this case yama-jii's shinkai looks like tim ight be effective because there is fire everywhere.
Zangetsu Tensa
11-28-2005, 09:48 PM
There is one obvious way you can avoid being affected by Aizen's shikai:
Close your eyes.
This naturally leaves you vulnerable to Aizen's kidou, of course, but if someone were skilled enough (Kenpachi?) to fight effectively with his eyes closed, he would never fall under Aizen's hypnosis and should thus be able to get a good shot at beating Aizen...that is, unless Aizen's bankai is something different and more dangerous.
This would fit in with one of my old theories: Tousen was sent by Aizen to eliminate Kenpachi. Zaraki has a longstanding record of knowing things that he shouldn't be able to, the most concerning of which was when he identified Ichimaru and Tousen as the only two shinigamis afraid of death. The two he singled out from all the shinigamis in Soul Society ended up being the ones working with Aizen - it can't be a coincidence.
When Tousen made his last, ill-fated attack against Zaraki inside his bankai, he declared "You are dangerous, Zaraki. Too dangerous to let live!" We know that Tousen couldn't have been concerned about Soul Society - he intended to betray it from the start. Tousen wouldn't have cared about anyone hearing him, not inside the Enma Kourou. Therefore, we can only conclude that Tousen considered Zaraki dangerous to his true loyalty - Aizen.
Zaraki defeated Tousen without using his eyes. All he needs to do is repeat the feat with Aizen.
Fariswheel
11-28-2005, 09:58 PM
unless Zaraki gets a power increase, then he would not be able to defeat Aizen.
Aizen could block Ichigo's blade bare-handed, and Ichigo is about the same level as Kenpachi.
Aizen blocked Ichigo's BANKAI bare handed and then proceeded to nearly sever Ichigo in half. Somehow, I think that Aizen's sword makes others use less power when attacking or defending - explaining how Aizen won so fast.
tednfs
11-28-2005, 10:29 PM
aizen blocked ichigo's bankai because of the hand to hand combat stuff
now kenpachi...crazy ass mo****er..without knowing the name of his soul slayer
if he can convince it to say its name..im sure he can acheive bankai in a matter of days( eg ichigi...or even ikkaku)...
I dont know about his abilities in shunpo(movements and flash steps) but prob can..so there's a possibility he can fight aizen..
but with his eyes closed?
he took down tousen comfortably..
but it seems like a logical battle
Kyouka Suigetsu
11-30-2005, 12:05 AM
Didn't Grand Fisher say "anger makes your sword dull"? The power of Aizen's soul slayer goes beyond hypnosis. He can also make people feel, taste, smell whatever he wants, and manipulate their emotions. If what he said is true, then that just adds a whole other dimension of ownage to Kyouka Suigetsu. Imagine making your opponent's sword about as useful as a butter knife by playing with their feelings. That's real power.
sniperz
11-30-2005, 12:41 AM
hahaha aizen is sukers >< ichigo will soon pwn him in last few episode!? lol how bout we draw a slash took by ichigo to aizen and his like UGHHH!. im dying XD! illusion suxor!
Didn't Grand Fisher say "anger makes your sword dull"? The power of Aizen's soul slayer goes beyond hypnosis. He can also make people feel, taste, smell whatever he wants, and manipulate their emotions. If what he said is true, then that just adds a whole other dimension of ownage to Kyouka Suigetsu. Imagine making your opponent's sword about as useful as a butter knife by playing with their feelings. That's real power.
His sword does exactly that. He can make a person put less power into an attack or feel more pain than what an attack should have done.
He blocks Ichigo's Ban Kai, Casts a spell at the 90th level and beats a captain with it, despite it being a quarter of its true power. He cannot be beaten so easily.
Kyouka Suigetsu
11-30-2005, 01:42 AM
Just a small clarification, but he said the spell was at 1/3 of it's true power. I don't think it hurt Komamura that much though. He popped right up pissed like a mofo after he heard Tousen's name.
Didn't Grand Fisher say "anger makes your sword dull"? The power of Aizen's soul slayer goes beyond hypnosis. He can also make people feel, taste, smell whatever he wants, and manipulate their emotions. If what he said is true, then that just adds a whole other dimension of ownage to Kyouka Suigetsu. Imagine making your opponent's sword about as useful as a butter knife by playing with their feelings. That's real power.
True...
... But in my opinion that is also real F***ED UP...
I don't like bastards who manipulate people emotionally to get what they want... it seems like lowest of the low... Aizen's sword seems to be an extension of his already sickening personality...
I hope he gets beat the @#$% out of...*glare*
Hmm so i guess ichigo has to fight Aizen blindfolded. That'll be funny to watch
Kyouka Suigetsu
11-30-2005, 06:33 AM
True...
... But in my opinion that is also real F***ED UP...
I don't like bastards who manipulate people emotionally to get what they want... it seems like lowest of the low... Aizen's sword seems to be an extension of his already sickening personality...
I hope he gets beat the @#$% out of...*glare*
You got to love what he did to Hinamori though. Man his VC was hysterical. She was crying her eyes out. Hell, her state of mind was so messed up that she would even attack her friends and couldn't take a step back to assess the situation. It was great.
senbonzakura
11-30-2005, 10:37 AM
cool chapter. we get to see another bankai
Yachiru_chan
11-30-2005, 10:11 PM
You got to love what he did to Hinamori though. Man his VC was hysterical. She was crying her eyes out. Hell, her state of mind was so messed up that she would even attack her friends and couldn't take a step back to assess the situation. It was great.
Well it depends on what you call great. It was fantastically manipulative though
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