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Dr. Walker
04-01-2008, 06:39 AM
Alright, before I begin to the main subject of this topic...I just wanna know, I ain't here to start a fight, pick up a brawl, or begin a flame war.

Ever since I joined this forum, I've gotten into some crap here and there that I was punished for, naturally. But, on half of the occasions, I was never really given a chance to speak my side of it, and when I was, I never even really took it because it would only prolong the problems and dramas. I took it all in a stride, and things got over with quickly. So, I guess in a way or two, I'll get through some things from the past in one big fell swoop...and, I guess with all the bullshit that's happened before, I'm now getting the pointy finger for a lot of crap, and being made into the "Final Boss of CB", so I guess in a way, this is also my attempt to clarify that I'm not really as evil and mean as I'm made out to be. I'm actually quite cuddly and loveable. :biggrinlo

In any case, I'll start back as far as from what I can remember...

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1: "The Evanesque Problem" (sp?)
Back when I FIRST joined the Espada, Ice kinda wanted me to get into the CBNL, and I was also personally interested in myself. What resulted was a disaster from both points of view. Now, I can't exactly remember the wording of the denial...all I can remember is that it MASSIVELY hurt my pride and honor (NOT my ego...), and I pretty much flipped out about it. As I said, I can't remember the details, but it was kinda like someone went up to an NBA superstar...and told them their dick was small. Now, per say, I don't consider myself a super star with a bottle for a penis... but it definitely hurt my pride and shook up my resolve as a writer for a while. But, in any case, I got over it (I also work as a Mag editor now ^.^), so it's all good. I have absolutely no hard feelings, and I'm issuing right here, right now, a HUUUUUUGE apology towards Eva, and I'm real sorry for being an ass. :sadd:

2: The Espada
First and foremost...I got into the Espada without joining any kind of prior division STRAIGHT out of the academy, so, in a way...I was like a kid who's on his very first forum without knowing any of the "invisible rules." Without a doubt...I broke ALOT of them. That includes the whole bullshit between "Espada VS. Vaizards", and I claim FULL responsibility over that mess. T_T In any case, Stat was something of saint for not booting me out earlier, so kudos to him for that! And...truth be told, despite the fact that I "technically resigned from the Espada", it was really only a difference of MINUTES of getting booted out, and quitting. In any case...once again, kudos for his patience. :winking56

3: Blackmail
A while after I quit the Espada, I still kept strong contacts with many of it's members, including Static, and truth be told, we were on a pretty damn cool basis, chatting daily via MSN and such. Now, a whiiiile afterwards, when some of the divisions started flipping a wee bit, some of my mates from the Espada came and talked to me about some problems here and there, and I wont use any names. Some of these things concerned me a wee little bit, and I confronted Static, and in all honesty, outright questioned his leadership, but never attacked him. Some of the more important things I did in that convo was present with him several scenarios (all of them were bad, and included me XD), and basically asked him how he would respond and deal with them. I wasn't (and most likely, alot of others if they saw the replies) weren't happy with the answers (I also will NOT ever post the recorded convo...since I don't personally engage in blackmail...), so I made a few bluffs (many of you KNOW these were bluffs. You know who you are, and you know I told you about it). Static...decides to take it, reword it, and shove it into my own mouth as real, malicious threats, and forwards it to Blitz. The end result was "Walker is banned from Bleach Project", without even a single smidgen of my side of the whole thing. So here's my side...I never threatened anyone, or anything, nor have I said I'd attack, or do any of that stuff. As I said, those were mere SCENARIOS that I presented him with. I hope we can put this whole thing WAY behind us, cause this is what pissed me off the most.

4: "The Leak"
As I stated above...there is ABSOLUTELY no leak between me and C46's contest answers. As I said, these were mere "fake scenarios" and bluffs I presented to Static. I have countless times said to quite a few individuals...THIS IS NOT REAL. However, every now and then, it gets brought up, so I gotta re-clarify...there is NO LEAK. C46 is as tightly locked as Fort Knox, so sleep peacefully.

5: Pyramus
A while ago, I received a PM from Pyramus, asking me to join his Division. I declined, and quite frankly, acted like a real jerk towards him. :sad So, this is my big apology towards him. However, as it stands, I'm banned from the BP, and I can't join his Division anyways. Even if I could, past experience tells otherwise: Bleach Project is way too overfilled with drama for me, so unless that has cooled down a bit, I will happily decline once again. :) However, if things are back to nominal status, and no shit will start going about, I'll be more than happy to talk things over.

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In any case, I DO NOT want this thread to be filled with hate and flaming, and all that crap, because I don't really want it locked for one primary reason: if there is anything I glossed over, then please share so I can offer my side of it. :(

In any case, I hope things are back clean and everything, and I also don't really expect anything from the administration from this, such as a BP unban. I simply felt it ought to be necessary to share my side of things before the hate penis erected further.

Thanks for reading guys. :)

Joe Black
04-01-2008, 06:45 AM
all i had to do was quickly glance over your account to breath a heavy sigh and facepalm. didn't read much of it at all. true story.

nx6
04-01-2008, 06:50 AM
I saw it from the spy. It was like a piece of fungus rising over the flowers in the forum. XD

Dr. Walker
04-01-2008, 08:26 AM
Alright, now you see my point? =_=

Am I wasting my time here?

nx6
04-01-2008, 08:40 AM
Is it too late to trade you for Undying?

Seriously. Posting lengthy self-commiserating diatribes isn't going to win you any rep points around here. Building up lost respect takes work --- and time. As I pointed out in the feedback threads for AF08, that exercise really exposed some people in this community for who they really are. Your image wasn't that clean even before that affair, and becoming a boolicking yessir to the fake BP didn't help.

Move on with your laundry list of past wrongs (how many months are you carrying these chips on your shoulder?) and try to build yourself back up.

Where's "icryemotears" when his posts are most appropriate?

Dr. Walker
04-01-2008, 08:42 AM
Is it too late to trade you for Undying?

Seriously. Posting lengthy self-commiserating diatribes isn't going to win you any rep points around here. Building up lost respect takes work --- and time. As I pointed out in the feedback threads for AF08, that exercise really exposed some people in this community for who they really are. Your image wasn't that clean even before that affair, and becoming a boolicking yessir to the fake BP didn't help.

Move on with your laundry list of past wrongs (how many months are you carrying these chips on your shoulder?) and try to build yourself back up.

Where's "icryemotears" when his posts are most appropriate?
Looks like you didn't even bother reading the first paragraph.

As I said, I'm not looking for any kind of forgiveness or rep around here. =_= Just simple understanding.

Understanding always comes better in detail, then in quick swahootin' sentences.

nx6
04-01-2008, 09:01 AM
Looks like you didn't even bother reading the first paragraph.
I've re-read it now, and it says the same thing I knew it did when I skimmed through it before. The lesson here is your ability to regain a good standing in an online community is inversely proportional to how large the group is. So if you f**k up big time in a small place (like here) it's a lot harder to get a foothold back than in some huge forum like Slashdot were a mistake will be forgotten in a week.

It doesn't help when the people you get on the bad side of are admins, mods, and other "elite members". Cause the newbies are gonna be working to fit in, and be looking up to these people, so their impressions of you will be molded by that group. It's the same shit I'm sure you dealt with in high school.

It was your own choice to not defend yourself in those past situations. Kinda like when I plead "no contest' and pay a huge speeding ticket rather than "prolonging the drama" at a chance to get off scott-free in court.

If you got a problem with some people here, stop talking to them and find new friends. You can start anew with them if you work at it.

As I said, I'm not looking for any kind of forgiveness or rep around here. =_= Just simple understanding.I thank Sandal Hat for the inspiration for the rest of my reply..

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Ai
04-01-2008, 09:02 AM
/me munches on a bag of roasted peanuts..

Look E-drama..D grade...

@ Dr.....If you don't worry about Evan now then why call it an evan problem...Get over it yourself.

@ Dr....If your apologizing for what you did in the espada then send them pm's..We don't want to know what you did in there between you and the vaizard..Thats pure e-drama building.

@ Dr....There is no bluffing on the internet because there will always be people who take whatever you do seriously take the AF joke that the administrators just did and peoples reactions...Grow a brain get over it...and take the advice of what I just said above..We didn't know about what you did with the espada and we don't care..pm them if you have to apologize for anything.

@ Dr....C46 hardly ever has the answers to contests within it unless the person running the contest has put the answers there...If you had explained this to people in the first place you might not be viewed upon as such an idiot..as it is..If you have to apologize to anyone in this matter do it to the other C46 members and not the rest of us who don't care..Also nothing on a forum is ever rock solid tight..

@ Dr...If your apologizing to Pyramus then Pm him and do it that way why do you make e-drama out of something that was between you and another user..Get over yourself..If you want back into the bleach project then pm the administrators...Don't make a public argument your just makin e-drama.

Oh and Dr if you didn't want this thread to be filled with flame and hate then why did you basically tell us how much of an idiot you are?

I have one more thing to say about this thread.

E-DRAMA

:)

Icestorm
04-01-2008, 09:30 AM
I mean, Ice a supermod...good one.


I just want to take the time now that ive got it, to say screw you :)

Dr. Walker
04-01-2008, 09:32 AM
I just want to take the time now that ive got it, to say screw you :)
Rofl. That I'm never taking back. :)
Oh and Dr if you didn't want this thread to be filled with flame and hate then why did you basically tell us how much of an idiot you are?


I'd rather be thought of as an idiot, than a cunt.

Evanesque
04-01-2008, 09:46 AM
You do know that it was mainly your attitude that got you rejected. And it wasn't a one-person decision, it was a group discussion between the editors who to accept into the CBNL. We wanted people who would get along with others in a nice cooperative environment. No competition, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter how awesome you may be, you might be in RL, and since we don't know much about you or bump into you in RL, we fail to see exactly what kind of person you are. But when you come on to a forum, the only mode of interaction is through words - bold, italic, underlines, the way they are placed, and emoticons for emphasis.

This is the internet, we might be stereotypical bastards, so when you get more than half of the forum pissed off at you, especially the people who are in charge of maintaining it, how are we, the rest of us, supposed to approach you with a thought that there might be a possibility that half the forum is wrong and everyone has nothing better to do but lie about you?

To be honest, I don't really care about what happened back then. We dropped it, we moved on. Good luck with your mag job. If you say you're pretty good at things, then prove it in RL, not the internet.

Dr. Walker
04-01-2008, 10:03 AM
You do know that it was mainly your attitude that got you rejected. And it wasn't a one-person decision, it was a group discussion between the editors who to accept into the CBNL. We wanted people who would get along with others in a nice cooperative environment. No competition, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter how awesome you may be, you might be in RL, and since we don't know much about you or bump into you in RL, we fail to see exactly what kind of person you are. But when you come on to a forum, the only mode of interaction is through words - bold, italic, underlines, the way they are placed, and emoticons for emphasis.

This is the internet, we might be stereotypical bastards, so when you get more than half of the forum pissed off at you, especially the people who are in charge of maintaining it, how are we, the rest of us, supposed to approach you with a thought that there might be a possibility that half the forum is wrong and everyone has nothing better to do but lie about you?

To be honest, I don't really care about what happened back then. We dropped it, we moved on. Good luck with your mag job. If you say you're pretty good at things, then prove it in RL, not the internet.
I did. Thanks for understanding. I appreciate it. :)

SoundWave
04-01-2008, 10:45 AM
I say it's mighty fine of you to try and patch things up.
Perhaps maybe not the best to do it in this fashion.

I had no qualms with you though.

All the best

Akiha
04-01-2008, 11:28 AM
^ Agreed.

I this may sound selfish, but Walker has never done anything wrong or malicious to me, so I don't mind him. He's okay, in my opinion.

And from what I can see, at least he's trying to apologize, while all I'm seeing in response is mostly flames.

silverwolf801
04-01-2008, 11:47 AM
hm yea. nice. wow. you just laid all your business out on the table. Now everyone can see it.

Dissidia
04-01-2008, 01:43 PM
As Ai and nx6 said, you should have just pm-d people. The reason you didn't is because you wanted the CB public to see everything from your biased view. And no, your conversation wasn't twisted in any way when presented to Z and you went too far. You were booted from the Espada, I removed you from the usergroup myself, regardless of if you say you were going to leave anyway. Despite how many chances you were given, you still go and lie in your mod application when sucking up to BP, saying your former captain was kicked due to "imcompetance".

The Lounge is not a place for this. I'm going to lock it but not delete, because as silverwolf said you want to lay out your business ~ even if being less than 100% honest.