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Quincy_Pride
11-29-2005, 06:47 PM
Ok I'm going to post a possible prediction for Naruto and I could be completely wrong as usual. But!

Oh and I apologise is this is in the wrong board or there is a duplicate elsewhere.

I was going over previous issues of Naruto Manga, namely issue 279, page 4.

Sakura tells everyone that Chiyo is going to perform a jutsu only she knows. But who's using their sharingan to watch the technique on page 4?

Is this a future jutsu Kakashi will have to use? By the looks of what Neji was seeing, using this jutsu means possibly that the one that uses it, dies.

Will Sasuke die, and Kakashi use the jutsu on him to snap him out of his revenger mission against his brother? The death of his Sensei to bring him to his senses? Would Orichimaru resurrect Kakashi in some sick ritual to use against Naruto!!!!

Is that quote on the Kakashi panel his or Neji's?

Heh sorry my minds racing. What do you think?

Ios
11-29-2005, 07:14 PM
eeehr, on what chapter are you??
I'm at chapter 285 and I don't really know what you are talking about...

Quincy_Pride
11-29-2005, 08:18 PM
Did you actually read my post?? I said chapter 279 page 4???? Am I missing something here?

Draffut
11-30-2005, 01:15 PM
Well, i looked back threw that chapter, and the only time a sharingan is being used to watch it is when kakashi is just staring, thinking about naruto and how he can make a friend of anyone.

Also, a Jutsu like that is somethign Sharingan cannot copy. Just like it cant copy the Resengan, or Tsunade's monster strength, or any bloodline abilities.

Jinchuu
11-30-2005, 03:39 PM
I agree with Draffut, I think he is simply staring just like how Neji is looking with Byakugan.

However, there is a question that comes in my mind. Chiyo said she developed this jutsu so Kakashi might be able to learn it since it is not a bloodline jutsu, but on the other hand it is a special jutsu which is only used by Chiyo, a puppeteer.

Quincy_Pride
11-30-2005, 05:25 PM
I agree with Draffut, I think he is simply staring just like how Neji is looking with Byakugan.

However, there is a question that comes in my mind. Chiyo said she developed this jutsu so Kakashi might be able to learn it since it is not a bloodline jutsu, but on the other hand it is a special jutsu which is only used by Chiyo, a puppeteer.

Have you noticed though that Sakura makes a point of saying only Chiyo can do it. Then in the panel with Kakashi, there's a translation (and I don't know if it's acurate) that says something like "this isn't appropriate but..." and Kakashi has his sharingan out in the same panel.

I assume the thoughts on the right is Neji's and the thoughts on the left is possibly Kakashi's.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/trueogre/kaka001.jpg

Also Kakashi has already used his Magenkyo sharingan 3 times leaving him extremely drained. Could his use of the sharingan here put him at risk in trying to copy this jutsu?

I think he may use it if Naruto has the nine tails sucked out of him by the Akatsuki.

Draffut
11-30-2005, 06:51 PM
I thought he was using his sharingan to just see what it was the old lady was doing, not actually coping it.

And as i was saying, there are alot more things beyond Bloodline limits that the sharingan cannot copy. A good example being Sakura/Tsunade's super strength. Sharigan copies normal Jutsu that uses the hand seals, as it can memorize them. Other techniques that are done threw a specific way of manipulating Chakra (healing) cannot be copied. This is from the fact that Sharingan cannot see the energy, That is the Byakugan's department.

Also, dont you think Sasuke would have copied Naruto's Rasengan if he could have. =)

Miss Selarne
11-30-2005, 06:56 PM
You do have a good point there, but I don't think he's trying to copy the jutsu. He probably is just looking. But you do have a good point. We'll just have to wait until Kakashi reappears.

Polygon
11-30-2005, 07:06 PM
All the sharingan does is copy physical and chakra movment. By copying chakra movment you can see throu illusions. So no matter what is you see a jutsu done with sharingan you copy it automaticly. Just like saskue did when he fought rock lee.

Draffut
11-30-2005, 07:13 PM
Sasuke didn't do much when he fought Rock Lee, except get owned. Now using his Sharingan, he did copy Lee's Taijutsu, but that is a completely differnet subject.

Polygon
11-30-2005, 07:21 PM
Sasuke didn't do much when he fought Rock Lee, except get owned. Now using his Sharingan, he did copy Lee's Taijutsu, but that is a completely differnet subject.

But he still saw lee doing the move while he had his sharingan activated. So yes kakashi did copy the jutsu. whether he like it or not.

Draffut
11-30-2005, 07:47 PM
Ummmm.... Kakashi has never seen Lee fight Sasuke. the one fight between them was BEFORE the first Chuunin exam. Gai showed up last minute to break up the fight.

The one time Kakashi watched Lee fight with his Sharingan was against Gaara. And he DID NOT copy the gate opening technique. He did witness all of lee's muscles tearing and bones breakign from ti though.

Polygon
11-30-2005, 08:01 PM
Ummmm.... Kakashi has never seen Lee fight Sasuke. the one fight between them was BEFORE the first Chuunin exam. Gai showed up last minute to break up the fight.

I meant he copied the jutsu that let garra live again.

The one time Kakashi watched Lee fight with his Sharingan was against Gaara. And he DID NOT copy the gate opening technique. He did witness all of lee's muscles tearing and bones breakign from ti though.

And it has been proven that he can at least open the first gate.

Quincy_Pride
11-30-2005, 11:05 PM
Remind me where he opened the first gate...you are talking about Kakashi?

I think Kakashi copied the jutsu. The risk in using his sharingan as he told Sasuke is that if you completely use up all of your chakra, then you will most possibly die.

Kakashi on the second time of using his new technique was already straining, hence Naruto almost supporting him, the slight arm touch.

But Kakashi still has enough chakra to stop the explosion and then collapse into a heap.

Now Sasuke mentions that this technique is only known by Chiyo and it will die with her. But Kakashi has his sharingan out watching it with the quote of it being appropriate...last person performing a jutsu to be lost for ever? Kakashi perhaps wants to preserve it.

Why have his sharingan out if he's just thinking about Naruto and his ability to form friendships. He has his other eye for that. I think the element of risk for Kakashi was to use his sharingan to copy Chiyo's technique. Just because she didn't do any hand signs, doesn't mean she didn't since we weren't looking at Chiyo all the time. Kakashi has already used up almost all his chakra and I think his attempt at copying the jutsu with so little chakra is a danger to himself.

But it would make sense that the ultimate sacrifice one can make is to save the life of another.

And you know the saying, if only I could have done something, if only it was me. Obito still plays on his mind, and he keeps torturing himself over it, hence his vigil at the cenotaph every morning. If Kakashi had a way of saving either Sasuke or Naruto, I don't doubt that with this jutsu he would use it.

I believe that it's the small things you have to look out for, not the blatant in your face things. This was a quick one panel brief mention, that I'm sure may crop up further along the lines of the story. Let's just hope it does not kill him, as Chiyo was poisoned.

If Sasuke has the ability to copy Rock Lee's moves, then I'm sure Kakashi would attempt to peek at this jutsu to see if he could copy it.

Polygon
11-30-2005, 11:12 PM
agree with you quincy. And he opened the first gate when he was rock climbing and you see saskue at the top.

Quincy_Pride
12-01-2005, 01:09 AM
Ooh you mean when he slipped and then bam! I wondered what happened there. Do you think he can open the other gates? A vein ripped Kakashi, I think I'd have nightmares. *shudder*

Polygon
12-01-2005, 01:14 AM
Ooh you mean when he slipped and then bam! I wondered what happened there. Do you think he can open the other gates? A vein ripped Kakashi, I think I'd have nightmares. *shudder*


Not ALL the gates. He might have been more physically capable than lee, but now I don't think so. I think he can open most of the gates, but the effect will be greater on him than lee.

Cerpin Taxt
12-01-2005, 05:12 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/stickygreen/Untitled-TrueColor-02.jpg

NarutOWNED!

Lunar
12-01-2005, 12:07 PM
gomein... sorry wrong topic, my head is kinda screwy right now...

Quincy_Pride
12-01-2005, 05:23 PM
Another point of my original post is that Kakashi also made a promise that no one on his team will die. Even though Sasuke has gone, I still think he will hold to that promise, and I have a sneaky suspicion that the person he may save is Sasuke. But it's 50-50 on it being Naruto as well.

Quincy_Pride
12-01-2005, 07:57 PM
Ummmm.... Kakashi has never seen Lee fight Sasuke. the one fight between them was BEFORE the first Chuunin exam. Gai showed up last minute to break up the fight.

The one time Kakashi watched Lee fight with his Sharingan was against Gaara. And he DID NOT copy the gate opening technique. He did witness all of lee's muscles tearing and bones breakign from ti though.

Hmm, it looks like Kakashi did copy Lee's move. Although isn't it considered rude to peak at one's technique, especially one from your own village. LOL.

He's basically left his sharingan out for most of the time but watched Lee break open 3 of the gates. Does that mean Kakashi can do the Primary Lotus move now? Seriously, I do not want to see Kakashi look like what Lee did, it's almost to horrific to think about. He would be a monster!!!

VipER
10-16-2006, 04:23 PM
damn u must've done a lot of homework researching on the subject...im surprised...

Baby-Pie
10-16-2006, 04:30 PM
lol nah i dont think Kakashi would ever do that move even if he knew it...just doesnt seem right...and your right Quincy_Pride that'l be the worst sight i'll ever see *imagines Kakashi as a monster* haha