Code Geass R2 Episode 4 The Scaffold of Counterattack - Discussion Thread

[Kenta]

Raws are out.

Lelouch is as sly as ever.

[Stormslayer]

LOL. Lelouch is down to a new low, manipulating feeling and pretend to be a good brother. He is more like Light than ever before.

Thankfully, Sazaku is now back to accomplish what Rollo failed to and kick Lulu's ass again.

[Blair]

Lulu is too awesome. I love how he is fooling Rollo. =]

[Jeggo]

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[Zero™]

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[ibuPROFen]

lol that was certainly interesting. Quite devious and evil, i like that.

[Donut]

I <3 Rolo

[Sting Rae]

Rollo is so stupid and Lulu is so sly <3

And he was snowboarding :o

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

I'm so glad he got rollo on his side. Now he not only has another good pilot but a geass on his side as well.

LOL. Lelouch is down to a new low, manipulating feeling and pretend to be a good brother. He is more like Light than ever before.

Thankfully, Sazaku is now back to accomplish what Rollo failed to and kick Lulu's ass again.


And truthfully I am getting tired of you if you insist on spouting your opinions back them up. Explain why you believe that the Emporer's uncaring plan for world domination is less evil than Lelouch uncaring plan for rebellion. Explain why you think susuka's hypocritical doctrine that disregards his friends and the ambitions of his country is less evil than Lelouch believing only in his sister and working towards a better future for them by being completely ruthless . Explain why you think a rebellion is uncalled for in a domineering and discriminating society.

[Mavvy]

Nicely executed by Lelouch to save his Black Knights. =]

I wonder how Rollo is going to turn out in future episodes now that he is in a mental bind.

[Livius]

just finished watching it and that was great.
it just keep getting better and better.
Lelouch is such a clever bastard, and seeing Rolo confused was priceless.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/livius91/lol.jpg

[Sting Rae]

Such an icky face D:

But it's good that he is out of the way now. I can't wait until Lulu throws the trash away

[Elocin]

I lol'd at that scene.

Rollo is so stupid, but a part of me is kinda starting to feel bad for him :P

Anyway, Lelouch is evil and clever <3

[M_A]

yay, it finally looks like rollo will become less useless by becoming lulu's pawn.

[nx6]

Rollo is so stupid and Lulu is so sly <3
And he was snowboarding :o
I thought it was a Eureka Seven sendup, since he was doing it in the air. :p

LOL. Lelouch is down to a new low, manipulating feeling and pretend to be a good brother.
I actually kinda agree with this. I think I'd have rather Lelouch just let the missile hit him and for Rolo to be dead and out of the show. Now he's going to be in future episodes, his Geass is going to make him a huge liability to the Black Knights, and at some point Lelouch will have to get rid of him before he figures things out.

[Bak3d on H1gh]

**** i love lelouches character, he does the exact same thing as i would do.
frankly killing him right now would cause more problems that would solve them. Specially since there supposed to be watching a movie right now. I don't understand how his geass is a liability, really it only his social skills. Hes probably gunna end up killing someone in the black knights.
and i guess i was wrong about rolo(mmm who else here likes rolos) being a clone or something of the sort.

[Stormslayer]

i guess i was wrong about rolo(mmm who else here likes rolos) being a clone or something of the sort.

I love the irony that Rollo's haters sympathize with him after this episode.

[M_A]

i still don't like him, but since he is now getting used by Lulu, he's not as bad. i do wish that he'll die sooner than later though. =]

[Minami Itsuki]

HAHA ROLO YOU SUCK!! Lelouch is much too smart. Omg...we need more Kallen bunny suits and nude C.C.

[Momentum]

Ownage, using people's emotions against them always works. Can't wait till Rollo gets betrayed.

"But brother, you promised me a future."

"Your future was death."

xD xD xD Bloody give us that episode already!

Lelouch = ownage.

[Minami Itsuki]

Yeah. Especially when hes doing it on the most useless and hated character on all of anime. Not much of a cliffhanger at the end of this ep. Just Suzaku.

[Momentum]

Meh, Suzaku. No one really cares about him.

Its all about Lelouch and his supreme ownage... :p

[Stormslayer]

Ownage, using people's emotions against them always works. Can't wait till Rollo gets betrayed.

"But brother, you promised me a future."

"Your future was death."

Well, it could go this way as well:

"So, I'm just a replacement for your sister."

"So what it is"

*Rollo uses his geass and murder both Nunnally and Lelouch before laughing hysterically*


Meh, Suzaku. No one really cares about him.

Its all about Lelouch and his supreme ownage...

Oh well, in season one, Suzaku is always there to stop Lelouch and wreck his plans.

[Momentum]

Seriously what makes you think that Lelouch will die? xD Hes the main reason of the series. If it weren't for him, you wouldn't be having a fetish over Suzaku... :p Keep trying ...

Oh well, in season one, Suzaku is always there to stop Lelouch and wreck his plans.

Due to plot reasons... >.>

[Stormslayer]

Seriously what makes you think that Lelouch will die? xD Hes the main reason of the series.

So when the series is about to end, there is no further use for him......

Due to plot reasons... >.>

And due to plot reasons, he will continue to beat Lelouch in season two.

[Kamina]

I love the irony that Rollo's haters sympathize with him after this episode.

Well, everyone bascially hated him because he was a fruitcup. I even made a tribute avatar for him :)

Good episode, but its basically like hes back to square one all over again. Its cool how the excitement is still high like in season one, this show is great!

[Momentum]

So when the series is about to end, there is no further use for him......

Ok, I might as well believe you now because you're the producer. (Sarcasm)

And due to plot reasons, he will continue to beat Lelouch in season two.

Anything to back that up? Prove it.

[Jeggo]

@ Stormslayer , Lelouch's plans were being devastated by Suzaku in more than one occasion , true. But , also you must not forget that in episode 17 when Lelouch identifies Suzaku as Lancelot's pilot he could have effortlessly killed him. Suzaku was outnumbered, his frame was damaged and he had nowhere to run.

So , if Suzaku 'iz pwning Lulu" this is due to plot reasons, Lelouch being attached to his old friend e.t.c (which is pretty lame , considering how crueless Lelouch is at times in the series)

Also , this is a good example to illustrate how much of an ass Suzaku is. When he found out Zero was Lelouch , he didn't hesitate to capture him and present him to the Emperor,
all this just for him to advance ranks in the Army.

[Stormslayer]

Anything to back that up? Prove it.

Ok, I might as well believe you now because you're the producer

You have already answered your own questions. LOL

Also , this is a good example to illustrate how much of an ass Suzaku is. When he found out Zero was Lelouch , he didn't hesitate to capture him and present him to the Emperor,
all this just for him to advance ranks in the Army.

Actually thats the secondary reason. The true reason why he capture him is because he wanted revenge for Euphemia.

[Helikaon]

I still think Rollo is retarded, but now he is a useful retard.


But its interesting to see Lelouch actually sweating so early on.. Ah well he came up with another genius plan to fool britannia again.. long live lelouch.. heh.

[Klavier Gavin]

Yeah, Suzaku hated Zero too much for killing Euphemia he wants him captured no matter what. Even when he knew Zero was Lelouch, it is still Zero that took Euphemia's life away.

He even punched the earl and use Lancelot without permission from anyone, that shows how much he actually loves Euphemia.

[Stormslayer]

Yeah, Suzaku hated Zero too much for killing Euphemia he wants him captured no matter what. Even when he knew Zero was Lelouch, it is still Zero that took Euphemia's life away.

Not just killing Euphemia but Suzaku blamed Lelouch for using his geass to make her killed thousands of Japanese and turned a potential peace co existing plan (Suzaku's dream) into a total wreckage.

[Kenta]

I don't see the connection to Yagami Light. Lelouch is evil, but he admits it. Light manipulates even those close to him, and never thought he was wrong even at the very end.

[Tyekanik]

They are both very intelligent, popular characters. People like to try and relate themselves to them.

Thats about the only connections I see XD I like Lelouch more than Light though. Cause as you mentioned, he's up front that he's doing wrong to achieve his ideal.

[Donut]

I <3 Rolo

Dunno why I <3 him, seeing he's such a cliché character, etc. But yeah. Still <3

Anyway, I stand by my "theory" posted in the ep 3 thread:

@Baked and more

Rolo is probably Lelouch's half-brother (possibly brother, because of his attachment to locket) the since he has the Geass (gift of Kings etc, or whatever they called it), as in they share the same father. Clone? No. Mixing clones into Code Geass would be too much, really.

Consider that they are brothers. Rolo got stuffed away at birth, or whatever, and no one really cared/knew about him, etc. Then Lelouch gets everything he'd get, he gets jealous and shit. Jealous of both Lelouch and Nunnaly. So the locket becomes a token of brotherhood, or something ("no you gave it to me!!!").

Too lazy to elaborate more, but you get me.


Later it will be revealed that Rolo really is his brother/half-brother, and Lulu will have the choice to kill him for profit, or save him for morals. Puts things in a nice perspective, he's trying to change Area 11 to a place where he can live with sister, or whatever, and he has the choice to kill off his own brother to achieve this. Hypocrisy creating a wonderful contrast.

[Kamina]

They are both very intelligent, popular characters. People like to try and relate themselves to them.

Thats about the only connections I see XD I like Lelouch more than Light though. Cause as you mentioned, he's up front that he's doing wrong to achieve his ideal.

Light and Lelouch have a lot of similarities. Both of them are trying to reform the world, both have a manipulative power, both are intelligent, and both of them are known to the public by an alias. There is a huge corellation between the two characters, they have different personalities, but are a lot alike.

I dont think Rollo is going to turn out to be Lelouch's brother. I just think he was an experimental candidate for the Geass. Time will show, but I think Lelouch's connection with him will just be the memories that he shared with him. I am sure Lelouch doesnt hate him. It would be a neat spin if they did turn out to be brothers though.

[Stormslayer]

Puts things in a nice perspective, he's trying to change Area 11 to a place where he can live with sister, or whatever, and he has the choice to kill off his own brother to achieve this. Hypocrisy creating a wonderful contrast.

Except that this is not the first time Lelouch killed his siblings, I doubt he has qualms and remorse about shooting Rollo from behind when the time comes even if they are brothers. I hope Nunnally will get to see Lelouch's past deeds and get to know his true character behind his caring brotherly face he put on everytime around her.

[Kamina]

^^ Right, hes killed family before, and if they give him a reason, he wouldnt be afraid to do it again. A good plot twist would be if Nunnally was brainwashed and was fighting against him, possibly Geassed. Then, what would he do?

[Donut]

Except that this is not the first time Lelouch killed his siblings, I doubt he has qualms and remorse about shooting Rollo from behind when the time comes even if they are brothers. I hope Nunnally will get to see Lelouch's past deeds and get to know his true character behind his caring brotherly face he put on everytime around her.

True, but they were against him, after all. Also Nunnaly might not want her brothers to kill each other, for gain...?

I think it could be interesting.

[Stormslayer]

Right, hes killed family before, and if they give him a reason, he wouldnt be afraid to do it again. A good plot twist would be if Nunnally was brainwashed and was fighting against him, possibly Geassed. Then, what would he do?

Hmmmmm, I see that possibility. It will be so interesting. It will be even better if the Emperor make Nunnally the governor of area 11/Japan. Then Lelouch's plan for Japan independence can officially burn in hell. HAHAHA

[nx6]

A good plot twist would be if Nunnally was brainwashed and was fighting against him, possibly Geassed. Then, what would he do?
I'd be curious how they would administer a Geass to Nunnaly since it generally requires eye contact.

I really thought Lelouch was going to betray C.C. (at least temporarily) back there, so I can stand this using-Rolo thing if it's the alternative.

[Tyekanik]

Geass seemed to be transfered through touch to Lelouch, not the eye contact.

I still need to know what all the Chinese Union is doing XD Those guys need to sort themselves out real quick like

[nx6]

Geass seemed to be transfered through touch to Lelouch, not the eye contact.
Transferring Geass is done through physical contact. I'm talking about having it used on you. Geasses that involve mind altering like Lelouch's and the Emperor's up to this point have required a direct line of sight with the victim's eye.

[Stormslayer]

I'd be curious how they would administer a Geass to Nunnaly since it generally requires eye contact.

Not true for Mao and Rollo.

I still need to know what all the Chinese Union is doing XD Those guys need to sort themselves out real quick like

Lee is already in control.

[ibuPROFen]

lol. Storm, I agree with Katen, I'd like to hear reasons.


first Suzaku was a pussy, but now he's an ass. I expect that he'll be a dick when he goes back to school. :)

[nx6]

Not true for Mao and Rollo.
You missed my previous post. Mao and Rollo do not have "mind control" Geasses, well Rolo's kinda is, since it effects perception of time, but it acts more like an actual time interrupting power. Mao can only read minds. Lelouch and the Emperor's geass causes actual changes to the victim's minds.

[Momentum]

You have already answered your own questions. LOL

No I didn't, let me quote myself since you purposely missed out the important word...

Ok, I might as well believe you now because you're the producer. (Sarcasm)

SARCASM... >.>

lol. Storm, I agree with Katen, I'd like to hear reasons.

This is what you call unjustified loyalty... and I too would like to hear reasons...

[Jeggo]

first Suzaku was a pussy, but now he's an ass. I expect that he'll be a dick when he goes back to school. :)

roflmao , +rep you made me laugh

[dogmatix]

first Suzaku was a pussy, but now he's an ass. I expect that he'll be a dick when he goes back to school. :)

ahaha. (/restrains himself from quoting large chunks of that speech >_> )

[Minami Itsuki]

I love the irony that Rollo's haters sympathize with him after this episode.

Dont worry about it. I still hate him as much.

[Ai]

/me O.o

Anyhow I enjoyed the latest Episode of R2 season. It was a nice change in the battle to see them win over rollo to their side..

Double cross the double crosser..And Looks like Suzaku is back at the school..>_>

[Stormslayer]

lol. Storm, I agree with Katen, I'd like to hear reasons.

I'm lazy and require some motivations.

It was a nice change in the battle to see them win over rollo to their side..

Thats not a fact yet just an assumption by Lelouch who thought that Rollo will never find out the truth.

[Momentum]

I'm lazy and require some motivations.


This is what you call unjustified loyalty...

:rolleyes

Double cross the double crosser..And Looks like Suzaku is back at the school..>_>

I don't see the point of it. Hes already a member of the knights so why does he need to go back to school? To try and convince Lelouch to stop his violent tactics? If thats the case, he should of done so earlier if he was so hell-bent on "avenging Euphie" or whatever. Opportunity gone to waste. Now he'll just have to try even harder.

:rolleyes

[Klavier Gavin]

Even if he's in the knights of the round now, he's still a student.

Putting that aside, how is he going to face Lelouch when he goes back to school? I don't think he'll able to see Lelouch as Lelouch anymore, but he'll only see him as Zero. He might still want to stop Lelouch as a friend, although that's rather futile. Lelouch and Suzaku will fight till the end, but he has another geass user on his side now.

[Tyekanik]

Thats what I want to see XD Ostensibly he and Lelouch 'should' get along due to him not knowing Lelouch has his memories. But, that would be a bit difficult for anyone who feels like Suzaku does towards Lelouch.

I expect hilarity

[Stormslayer]

Nice try SS but still not strong enough.

I don't see the point of it. Hes already a member of the knights so why does he need to go back to school? To try and convince Lelouch to stop his violent tactics?

Obviously, if you remember episode first of season 2, he said he wanted to kill Lelouch with his own hands and not convince him to stop. Anyway, any words of persuasion will be a waste of time.

If thats the case, he should of done so earlier if he was so hell-bent on "avenging Euphie" or whatever. Opportunity gone to waste. Now he'll just have to try even harder.

Because he only know Zero = Lelouch in the last episode and he originally thought that Emperor would execute him immediately.

Putting that aside, how is he going to face Lelouch when he goes back to school?

Simple, treat him as a traitor of Britannia empire and killed him when the opportunity arise.

[Jeggo]

Simple, treat him as a traitor of Britannia empire and killed him when the opportunity arise.

If they wanted to kill Lelouch , they would have already done so. I expect the Emperor has plans for him. After rewatching Season 1 , I want to add that the Emperor was happy with Lelouch's growth ( killing Euphemia, the advancement of his Geass e.t.c )

I think Suzaku will act normally on the outside , while on the inside will be trying to see if Zero is awakened. But he will be outwitted by Lelouch ~ :)

[Stormslayer]

If they wanted to kill Lelouch , they would have already done so. I expect the Emperor has plans for him. After rewatching Season 1 , I want to add that the Emperor was happy with Lelouch's growth ( killing Euphemia, the advancement of his Geass e.t.c )

LOL I think so too. (FYI, actually I wanted to say that later on but you said it first, saving me the trouble)

The emperor is more human and fatherly than people here give him credit for. Apparently, he wanted to train Lelouch to be as strong and heartless as he is.

Capturing C.C is an excuse, he already has V.V.

I think Suzaku will act normally on the outside , while on the inside will be trying to see if Zero is awakened. But he will be outwitted by Lelouch

We will see about that. But I have a hinch that he already know Lelouch is already awakened (By looking into his eye expression), just finding chances to nail him down.

[Lind Ni Britannia]

WOOHOO at Xingke not against the Order. looks like politics got him a bit carried away there. glad he's still cool.

[Sting Rae]

first Suzaku was a pussy, but now he's an ass. I expect that he'll be a dick when he goes back to school. :)

LMFAO I should put that in my sig.

[Jeggo]

We will see about that. But I have a hinch that he already know Lelouch is already awakened (By looking into his eye expression), just finding chances to nail him down.

Yeah this might be it , but he hardly has evidence enough to allow him to capture Lelouch. Remember , he goes with the rules. He wouldn't just throw him to prison without being sure about his 'awakening'. I can't really see Suzaku outmaneuvering Lelouch , when Lelouch has Rollo on his side :/

[ibuPROFen]

Suzaku is obviously a hermaphrodite (showing qualities of both types of genitalia and the posterior), He would not be welcomed to the Chinese Union where Eunuchs reign supreme. Imo, he's there because he wants to confirm that Lelouch isn't (or in this case, is) the current Zero.

[Jeggo]

Suzaku is obviously a hermaphrodite (showing qualities of both types of genitalia and the posterior), He would not be welcomed to the Chinese Union where Eunuchs reign supreme. Imo, he's there because he wants to confirm that Lelouch isn't (or in this case, is) the current Zero.

^_^ What?

[ibuPROFen]

Well, of those that BELIEVE that Lelouch is Zero they really have no evidence confirming it, only suspicions. If there was concrete evidence Lelouch would have been killed immediately after the discovery. Since Suzaku hasn't heard of any evidence, he's there to investigate and see if Lelouch = Zero for himself.

[BamBam]

Do you think that the Emperor erased Lelouch's memory of Suzaku? Because if suzaku comes back to school who is Lelouch supposed to act to him?

[Kamina]

Well, of those that BELIEVE that Lelouch is Zero they really have no evidence confirming it, only suspicions. If there was concrete evidence Lelouch would have been killed immediately after the discovery. Since Suzaku hasn't heard of any evidence, he's there to investigate and see if Lelouch = Zero for himself.

The emperor obviously knows that Lelouch = Zero. He wouldnt have went through all the trouble he did if he didnt know the situation. I think hes just toying with Lelouch to be honest, hes a real d-bag.

Suzaku wont come back to school, hes one of the suck-up crew now. And no, Lelouch still has memories of him, he just doesnt care how Suzaku is doing cause he knows that hes a jerk. And anything the emperor did to Lelouch memory wise is negated, as he got his memories back.

[Momentum]

Obviously, if you remember episode first of season 2, he said he wanted to kill Lelouch with his own hands and not convince him to stop. Anyway, any words of persuasion will be a waste of time.

He had that chance back in the island so why didn't he do so? If he was so hell-bent on avenging Euphiemia. Not to mention he had the upper hand as well.

Because he only know Zero = Lelouch in the last episode and he originally thought that Emperor would execute him immediately.

Execute him immediately? So much for asking Suzaku to seal his left eye...
They had him in a straight jacket, you know how easy it is to send him to the firing squad or "immediately execute" him? Thats not an excuse...

We will see about that. But I have a hinch that he already know Lelouch is already awakened (By looking into his eye expression), just finding chances to nail him down.

Rollo anyone? :rolleyes

[Stormslayer]

He had that chance back in the island so why didn't he do so?

Euphemia isn't dead yet. And Lelouch using her as a hostage.

Execute him immediately? So much for asking Suzaku to seal his left eye...
They had him in a straight jacket, you know how easy it is to send him to the firing squad or "immediately execute" him? Thats not an excuse...

Man you should read again.............notice the words "Originally thought"

And go and read our theory about the Emperor.

Rollo anyone?

Suzaku is not Rollo nor does he need brotherly love.

[Momentum]

Euphemia isn't dead yet. And Lelouch using her as a hostage.

...?

I'm talking about the last episode of season one... >.>

Man you should read again.............notice the words "Originally thought"

Thats still not an excuse... AFTER Lelouch had his memories altered, there was still a chance for Suzaku to kill him secretly and personally.

Suzaku is not Rollo nor does he need brotherly love.

Maybe I should of made it more clear and maybe you should of read the past posts...

Yeah this might be it , but he hardly has evidence enough to allow him to capture Lelouch. Remember , he goes with the rules. He wouldn't just throw him to prison without being sure about his 'awakening'. I can't really see Suzaku outmaneuvering Lelouch , when Lelouch has Rollo on his side :/

:rolleyes

[Ai]

Suzaku won't kill Lelouch despite everything he still thinks of him as a friend and even when he could have killed him at the end of season one he didn't but instead tried to save Lelouch in what he thought he was doing by taking him to the emperor.

[BamBam]

Suzaku wont come back to school, hes one of the suck-up crew now. And no, Lelouch still has memories of him, he just doesnt care how Suzaku is doing cause he knows that hes a jerk. And anything the emperor did to Lelouch memory wise is negated, as he got his memories back.


Lelouch has his memories back but he has no way of knowing if the Emperor erased Suzaku memories. Obviously Suzaku is back to see if it is really Lelouch or not but if Lelouch acts like he doesn't know Suzaku and the Emperor left Suzaku memories then it is obvious the Lelouch is bluffing.

[Ai]

Suzaku wont come back to school, hes one of the suck-up crew now.

end of episode 4 showed Suzaku back at the school in school uniform..>_>


Lelouch has his memories back but he has no way of knowing if the Emperor erased Suzaku memories. Obviously Suzaku is back to see if it is really Lelouch or not but if Lelouch acts like he doesn't know Suzaku and the Emperor left Suzaku memories then it is obvious the Lelouch is bluffing.

:/ The only memories taken from lelouch were of nunally..He still thinks of Suzaku as a friend. check the photos suzaku is still in them.

[Stormslayer]

I'm talking about the last episode of season one

Like I said, he thought that the emperor will execute him. And with Euphemia's death, the only way for him to fulfill his dream is through the emperor.

Thats still not an excuse... AFTER Lelouch had his memories altered, there was still a chance for Suzaku to kill him secretly and personally.

The emperor's order is absolute. No point risking one's head over a doomed guy.

Maybe I should of made it more clear and maybe you should of read the past posts...

Nevertheless its not a point made by you.

[Guy]

Well, I've watched this episode. Wow, it only gets more interesting! Zero's use of the chinese embassy is simply ingenious, and I like it when Rollo is stuck in a hopeless situation (:<

[Momentum]

Like I said, he thought that the emperor will execute him. And with Euphemia's death, the only way for him to fulfill his dream is through the emperor.

Why get the emperor when he could of done it himself? Sure he was able to gain a rank but what made him so sure that he was going to get executed by the emperor? Anything could happen, especially when the main character gets captured. No one can suddenly assume that the main character will die.

The emperor's order is absolute. No point risking one's head over a doomed guy.

I wouldn't really say... doomed... xD The protagonists always prevail. :rolleyes

Nevertheless its not a point made by you.

Doesn't matter, as long as it remains a fact. :rolleyes

[ibuPROFen]

Suzaku wont come back to school, hes one of the suck-up crew now. And no, Lelouch still has memories of him, he just doesnt care how Suzaku is doing cause he knows that hes a jerk. And anything the emperor did to Lelouch memory wise is negated, as he got his memories back.


you DID see the last scene of the episode didn't you?



Also, Suzaku didn't execute Lelouch for a few things.

#1. He did not know Zero = his former best friend. (Though it doesn't appear like this was a factor on the outside it certainly crossed his mind)

#2. He wanted to use Lelouch as a bargaining chip to gain admission to the Knights of the Round.

#3. Yes, he expected the Emperor to do SOMETHING with Lelouch, (not necessarily kill him)

[Jeggo]

you DID see the last scene of the episode didn't you?



Also, Suzaku didn't execute Lelouch for a few things.

#1. He did not know Zero = his former best friend. (Though it doesn't appear like this was a factor on the outside it certainly crossed his mind)

#2. He wanted to use Lelouch as a bargaining chip to gain admission to the Knights of the Round.

#3. Yes, he expected the Emperor to do SOMETHING with Lelouch, (not necessarily kill him)

@ #1 , while he wasn't aware of the fact Lelouch was Zero , evidentally he did discover in the end.

@ #2 True. This further illustrates my opinion that Suzaku has advanced the word 'ass' to new heights.

@ #3 Expecting the Emperor not to kill the terrorist who brought Area 11 to utter chaos is foolish. I am quite sure he expected the Emperor would kill Lelouch. Besides , this shows that he no longer cared about what would happen to Lelouch.

[Wacer]

Well i dont think the Emperor would of killed lulu. I am sure he got far more enjoyment out of manipulating lulu's life once more. Like after all these years he is still i control of lulu's life, make him fell weak, or something along those lines

[ibuPROFen]

@ #1 , while he wasn't aware of the fact Lelouch was Zero , evidentally he did discover in the end.



@ #3 Expecting the Emperor not to kill the terrorist who brought Area 11 to utter chaos is foolish. I am quite sure he expected the Emperor would kill Lelouch. Besides , this shows that he no longer cared about what would happen to Lelouch.


1. His conviction to kill Zero was made BEFORE he discovered Zero = Lelouch, thus the discovery of Zero's identity could have played a factor.

3. Lelouch is the Emperor's son, even Suzaku knows that. (Though I think the Emperor is void of feelings.) Also, There are worse things than dying. :)

[DragonBlade]

I dont see the purpose of just changing his memories. There has to be a reason for such a lackluster punishment after all what Lelouch did. Be funny if the emperor's geass is more than just a memory adjustment

[Ai]

Remember the Emperor changed Lelouchs memories then gave orders to the special C.C team at the school to use Lelouch as bait to get to C.C

This means that the emperor is only using Lelouch at the moment.