Urahara's secret

[SenpaiRetsu]

What does everyone think about Urahara being battle ready. I've been giving this some thought. I'm not saying he's quite on the level of Aizen but comparatively he most seems that way.

Someone like Zaraki or Byakuya you can definitely see why they are strong, they clearly work out all of the time and try to keep their battle skills up. yet Urahara sits around the shop and bullshitting yet he seems to know everything and is battle ready.

Yoruichi said she was out of shape when she was on the bridge. so clearly he's not training with her. So who is he training with Tessai?

Think about what he really did, he walked into a battle with an espada who had 3 seated officers captured and downed a captain, and then there were 2 other espada(wonderwise is not espada but implied to be same level). And Urahara shows up ALONE with only shikai with three espada and does he have the attitude "Ok let me be serious go all out for me to have a chance" nope he walks in like "O my my, what do we have here?" totally not taking any of them seriously. They could have been the 3 stooges for what it was worth to him. Granted they weren't the strongest but still. to have that confidence must mean he's damn strong.

what's his secret do you think? he doesn't seem to work nearly as hard as the other captains yet he easily is up there. Your thoughts?

[newbsrule]

thats very good points i think he is on the same level as aizen and yama because he is a viazard =/

[Reyin]

What does everyone think about Urahara being battle ready. I've been giving this some thought. I'm not saying he's quite on the level of Aizen but comparatively he most seems that way.

Someone like Zaraki or Byakuya you can definitely see why they are strong, they clearly work out all of the time and try to keep their battle skills up. yet Urahara sits around the shop and bullshitting yet he seems to know everything and is battle ready.

Yoruichi said she was out of shape when she was on the bridge. so clearly he's not training with her. So who is he training with Tessai?

Think about what he really did, he walked into a battle with an espada who had 3 seated officers captured and downed a captain, and then there were 2 other espada(wonderwise is not espada but implied to be same level). And Urahara shows up ALONE with only shikai with three espada and does he have the attitude "Ok let me be serious go all out for me to have a chance" nope he walks in like "O my my, what do we have here?" totally not taking any of them seriously. They could have been the 3 stooges for what it was worth to him. Granted they weren't the strongest but still. to have that confidence must mean he's damn strong.

what's his secret do you think? he doesn't seem to work nearly as hard as the other captains yet he easily is up there. Your thoughts?


Meh, he's the scientist right? I wouldn't be surprised if he had some way of staying in shape that requires no effort.

[Akiha]

It hasn't been proven that Urahara's a Vaizard, as far as I can tell.

Though there is no solid evidence as to how he became so strong, or even how strong he even is, my guess is that he used his mind somehow. To get his bankai, Urahara used a tenshintai to force his bankai out. I think he used some experiment of his; or maybe he just trained in the off-time?

[sweeter]

what's his secret do you think? he doesn't seem to work nearly as hard as the other captains yet he easily is up there. Your thoughts?
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[SenpaiRetsu]

good point maybe he has some steroid like serum he can inject himself with like how mayuri can regenerate a lost body part. maybe this steriod makes him like superman. that's what mayuri has that he gave to Syzayel

@SWEETER haha the time chamber pic was hilarious. good one

[Rainl]

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Lmao. Thats brilliant.


*Ehem..* Now back on topic. Yea I was wondering that also. He's always extremely cofident. This could mean he's either more powerful than given off, or he can merely since that the espada there wasn't exactly worth the effort.

I'll go with the second situation(not taking anything away from Urahara, I too believe he is very strong), but this can be sort of a possibility. Take his Yammi encounter for instance. We all know yammi sucks..Hard. Urahara perhaps, may have been able to since this as well, and knew he could easily deal with him.

Now on the other hand, When Ichigo first encountered Yammi, and Ulquiorra was there. Urahara in fact showed up quite serious. He may have been able to sense that Ulquiorra, is definately not the opponent to take lightly. He wasn't laughing or joking at all, plus he had Yoruichi accompanying him.

I think he was able to read that the power gap between Yammi and Ulquiorra was substantially apart, thus all jokes and fun are over.

[Jelle]

what's his secret do you think? he doesn't seem to work nearly as hard as the other captains yet he easily is up there. Your thoughts?

Well.. can't say he doesn't really seem to work as hard. We barely see anyone else besides from Ichigo and co. actually training. Take Yama for instance, he sits on his ass all day giving out orders left and right. We've only seen him battle ready once, but we know he's one of the most powerful fighters. Same goes for Shunsui; he's one lazy bastard.

[Rainl]

Well.. can't say he doesn't really seem to work as hard. We barely see anyone else besides from Ichigo and co. actually training. Take Yama for instance, he sits on his ass all day giving out orders left and right. We've only seen him battle ready once, but we know he's one of the most powerful fighters. Same goes for Shunsui; he's one lazy bastard.

True also. They may be training undercover, where it isn't shown in the manga. Yama, does nothing, but sleeps. When it comes down to it though, you definately don't want to be the one going against him. Shunsui, lazy as can be and gets drunk all day, but can drop chad, while sipping tea, with only a finger.

[SenpaiRetsu]

Lmao. Thats brilliant.


*Ehem..* Now back on topic. Yea I was wondering that also. He's always extremely cofident. This could mean he's either more powerful than given off, or he can merely since that the espada there wasn't exactly worth the effort.

I'll go with the second situation(not taking anything away from Urahara, I too believe he is very strong), but this can be sort of a possibility. Take his Yammi encounter for instance. We all know yammi sucks..Hard. Urahara perhaps, may have been able to since this as well, and knew he could easily deal with him.

Now on the other hand, When Ichigo first encountered Yammi, and Ulquiorra was there. Urahara in fact showed up quite serious. He may have been able to sense that Ulquiorra, is definately not the opponent to take lightly. He wasn't laughing or joking at all, plus he had Yoruichi accompanying him.

I think he was able to read that the power gap between Yammi and Ulquiorra was substantially apart, thus all jokes and fun are over.

Your absoluetly right that he wasn't joking when Ulq was there but he did say that they'd lose if they stayed there. meaning Ulq couldn't beat Urahara and Yoruichi. because we all know if Urahara or Yoruichi were every serious they'd one shot Yammi. and Ulq is faster than Yoruichi because he's faster than bankai Ichigo. plus she doesn't have a sword so she wouldn't stand any chance against him without her sword. so i'd come down to urahara against Ulq and he doesn't think he could win that battle.

You said Yammi sucks. it's true that he might suck compred to Ulq but think about it even number 10 is at the very least a captain level opponent. so think about what urahara did, he walked in with three opponents that could be captains and pwned them.

That's like him walking in a field againstlets say Soifon, Komamura, and Hitsugaya and toying around in shikai. do you think he could do that? maybe but how could he do that after such long periods of inactivity?

[iBleach47]

going back, i think that training with tessai might be a very logical. also you have jinta and uryuu around also and dont forget his big underground chamber, who says he doesnt train for 20 min to an hour everymorning with those 3, because if you think about it how are they battle ready either without practicing.

just some of my opinions.

[Tracid]

I'd like to think of Urahara as Batman, he never leaves his home without proper tools to deal with his opponents and he has the skills to back it up, maybe when Yammi and Ulq first appeared he just rushed out without his usual bat belt full of arsenal lol.

[Nail]

It's shounen, so it's not really confined to the regular limitations of logic. For all we know he stays in shape through badass heroic willpower alone.

And speaking of that man with a goddamn forest creature on his face, I JUST REALIZED that that's him in Turn Back the Pendulum. It's been like a year since I've watched the first arc, I really need to rewatch it.

[Chi]

I think his secret is that even when he wasn't wearing the cloak he supresses his own reiatsu because its too massive or too hollowish. Cause think about it, as soon as they said Kensei reiatsu disappeared he grew concerned as if, I know what that is and only i can deal with it.

[sweeter]

as soon as they said Kensei reiatsu disappeared he grew concerned as if, I know what that is and only i can deal with it.
Or maybe he's feeling totally guilty and responsible for what's happening because he's the one behind it.

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[Chi]

Well yeah that's what i intended on giving the impression off. I think Urahara created a second Hougokyou which breaks the shinigami limit just like vizardization but without gaining the hollow!! this thread has so many possibilities since The Kisuke is so mysterious and bloody brilliant he could have 5million secrets for all we know

[iBleach47]

well thats urahara for u, got a trick up his sleave for everything and dont forget to carry a disposible gigai with you at all times.

[Vicent]

Someone like Zaraki or Byakuya you can definitely see why they are strong, they clearly work out all of the time and try to keep their battle skills up. yet Urahara sits around the shop and bullshitting yet he seems to know everything and is battle ready.

Since Mayuri was Urahara left hand... i think you should reconcider this. Reference? Mayuri speech just before killing Szayel.

He is not just sitting around the shop and bullshitting he knows everything... as well as Yoruichi he uses his time to investigate and research and thats how he gets to know everything he knows. He is a scientist, its his work to know everything, he is smart (look how easly he analized Yammys balla during the espada raid to Karakura Town). Even is he is not that powerfull, thats not impediment for being smart nor know a lot of stuff.

But as well as Zaraki, being one of the popular characters and one of the most importants one, i am sure Kubo will drawn him ubber powerfull. Im a little dissapointed by this, and that he does not do the same for his other captains, im actually hoping more from Soi Fond or Komamura.

[Dantes_Legacy]

...and dont forget to carry a disposible gigai with you at all times.

That is some excellent advice. Life would be so much easier with a disposable gigai!

Anyway, the guy ceated the hougokyou! Something like training must pale in comparison to an achievement like that. I also think that he gets his overwhelming confidence from his bankai. Think about it, we have yet to see it and we are on chapter 323. His bankai must be extremely powerful or a type that is extremely hard to beat.
Like some type of massive blood mist shield that encompasses the whole area around him and reflects any attack back at the user. So then he can just walk straight up to his oppenent, analyse their attack and sent it straight back at them!
If I had abilities that resembled anything like that, I would sit around a shop all day saying “Noooo, there’s no way I, a mere handsome and sexy shopkeeper, could possibly have bankai!”

[xxBluebird]

xD Urahara has brass balls?

Maybe when he said that they were going to be defeated or something like that against Yammi and Ulq, he meant that it was because they had to protect all those people and it would've been a lot harder to fight like that?

<3'd his portable Gigai xDDD It was like, a little black balloon, and then pop! it was another Urahara! x3

[Twister1352]

thats very good points i think he is on the same level as aizen and yama because he is a viazard =/

Theres nothing anywhere that states he is for SURE a vaizard, although it's assumed.

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LOL wow, now it all makes sense!



But really, I don't feel hes on the same level as aizen I feel he is definitely stronger than ulquiorra. possibly espada 1 material.

[Esca]

Maybe when he said that they were going to be defeated or something like that against Yammi and Ulq, he meant that it was because they had to protect all those people and it would've been a lot harder to fight like that?

So it isn't just me who thought of that.

Of course, it'd be harder to fight Ulquiorra and Yammi while having to protect Ichigo, Sado, Orihime, while causing and reducing damage to a minimum to protect the town and its residents. Seems like the odds were against them.

[xxSenbozakura]

I guess Urahara being smart and a scientist and all that has figured out a way for him to get stronger, remember he said hollowification was ONE of the ways to strengthen a soul, i wonder what the others are and i think he has used some of them

[Character]

I'm betting he eats a lot of salmon. For the Omega 3 fatty acids.

The man's brilliant and probably crazy powerful and to be honest if anybody here can guess whats up his sleeve than I'm going to be a little disappointed in KT creativity.

[xxSenbozakura]

I guess the omega 3 fatty acids helps him break the barrier between a shinigami and a hollow and makes him uber strong. He may have developed his blood mist shield from omega 3

[Chi]

So it isn't just me who thought of that.

Of course, it'd be harder to fight Ulquiorra and Yammi while having to protect Ichigo, Sado, Orihime, while causing and reducing damage to a minimum to protect the town and its residents. Seems like the odds were against them.
Yeah, which by my estimate wouldn't mean that they (urahara or Yorouichi) are weaker then Ulquiorra just that the surrounding environment can't handle that kind of battle while there are so many "weak souls around" ie civilians and injured personel.

[losthope1205]

i believe the answer is more simple than what everyone is thinking, aizen said it himself, there is a limit to the strenght of a shinigami. Once that limit is reached, its useless to train if you cant become stronger.
chapter 175 page 9 mentions this

so to make it simple, urahara doesnt train because he has reached his limits already.
and before people mention about ichigo's dad. its been undirectly said that he lost his powers somehow in the past. and im pretty sure its not because a lack of training.

on a side note i dont post very often but i do read alot on this forum
has anyone notice how ulqui looks alot like orihime's brother, hole in same place same hair style. you guys thing its just a model being reused or does it mean something?

[Chi]

^ wrong, Last time Isshin was a shinigami was 20 years ago from the current time line.

Urahara doesn't train because he most likely doesn't have too. But then again when was the last time we saw any captain level Shinigami train besides Ichigo? Urahara Kisuke created the Hougokyou and also said that hollofication was one of many ways to strengthen the Shinigami soul. So the Hougokyou was created for that very purpose. The Hougokyou can do shinigamification and i don't doubt that the Kisuke used it on himself to strengthen his soul sleep and booster to boost his power. If it wasn't for Kisuke aizen would have an army of arrancar/VL at Dordoni's level. XD

[losthope1205]

^ wrong, Last time Isshin was a shinigami was 20 years ago from the current time line.


it is true that isshin hasnt been a shinigami for 20 years but i dont see anything wrong with wat i said about isshin... if u want to argue go read up on the chapter where ichi and uryuu's father meet up before you post a reply to this

and we have no proof that urahara has used the Hougokyou on himself what your doing my friend is speculating

[Chi]

He are all the things wrong with that statement

1. This isn't the thread to be discussing this topic, the Isshin thread is
this is about the great Kisuke
2. We don't know the reason why Isshin stoped being a shinigami, all we know is that he did and got married and had kids
3. http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/188/06/
4. that whole convo between Isshin Ryuuhen indicated nothing about him reaching his limits on the contrary his powers mostly weakend, it can be said its because he hasn't trained or active used it in over 20 years. Either one.

[Dounick]

IF i remember correctly, didnt Urahara say something about his bankai being a non defensive bankai, so wouldnt that mean its all offensive?

Im just pulling off loose strings here, its been a while since ive watched/read any bleach

[Chi]

He said it couldn't be used for training, presumably because it was too vicious and mean spirited to be able to help a person train and get better. Think about it to an extent everyone's bankai we've seen so far has had a possible training regiment that can be applied to it, even byakuya's. So for him to say that and being who he is... would imply something we've never seen or could have expected. XD

[Dounick]

Expecting the unexpected would be quite interesting, but expected, because if it was like some lame-ass bankai, then I think alot of people would think less of Urahara, unlikely, but I think he's pretty sweet as it is.

As for the bankai, you make a point. I guess I was right with what I said, but I seem to remember him saying it wasn't a defensive bankai. I dunno, I could be wrong.

[Seff vi Britannia]

It could be a healing bankai which would also make it quite ineffective for training. The other option, of course, is that it's something like Mayuri's bankai or Soifon's shikai, both of which you would not use to train.

[moonflow]

as for how does he stay in shape.
well you notice he teaches a lot, obviously training the kids, as well as ichigo and friends.
teaching is good revision since your going over what you allready learned.
its not uber training but it keeps the dust off.
the rest i'd put down to keeping his mind sharp by inventing new hax drinking tea and meditating ^^

lets be honest he out witted yami more than he out fought him.
prety much made the guy look stupid lol

[Capt Kenpachi]

What does everyone think about Urahara being battle ready. I've been giving this some thought. I'm not saying he's quite on the level of Aizen but comparatively he most seems that way.

Someone like Zaraki or Byakuya you can definitely see why they are strong, they clearly work out all of the time and try to keep their battle skills up. yet Urahara sits around the shop and bullshitting yet he seems to know everything and is battle ready.

Yoruichi said she was out of shape when she was on the bridge. so clearly he's not training with her. So who is he training with Tessai?

Think about what he really did, he walked into a battle with an espada who had 3 seated officers captured and downed a captain, and then there were 2 other espada(wonderwise is not espada but implied to be same level). And Urahara shows up ALONE with only shikai with three espada and does he have the attitude "Ok let me be serious go all out for me to have a chance" nope he walks in like "O my my, what do we have here?" totally not taking any of them seriously. They could have been the 3 stooges for what it was worth to him. Granted they weren't the strongest but still. to have that confidence must mean he's damn strong.

what's his secret do you think? he doesn't seem to work nearly as hard as the other captains yet he easily is up there. Your thoughts?

maybe he is just that good. or maybe him and yuroichi.....

Although there is still Ishin and Uruyu's dad. Maybe they train together. Yes I know that Ishin only recently got his abilities back, but that does not mean that he could not have been training to get them back.

[Hitsugaya Tōshirō]

It could be a healing bankai which would also make it quite ineffective for training. The other option, of course, is that it's something like Mayuri's bankai or Soifon's shikai, both of which you would not use to train.

Mmm... Mayuri's could be ... used to train if Mayuri would share some of the antidote! D< Anyhow =/, if you'll realize that his bankai would have to be something so lethal that it may be dangerous to the life of someone else or his own so he probably wouldn't use it for training DX. With that in mind, he probably would have said "mine is a healing bankai" if that were the case. That and there would be some evidence in his Shikai form when he fought Ichigo during training ._.;;.. As far as that goes, we saw nothing of the sort but it is still somewhere near possible =/, so I can't totally disagree with you there XD.

Anyhow I was always under the impression that Urahara was one step ahead of the game because he is able to freely work experiments of which Soul Society deemed "illegal" and with that in mind, he's probably been able to find some way to enhance his skills without having to waste every single moment of his life training =O. With that being said, we still haven't seen him fight extensively, aside from his throwdown with Yami.