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Minami Itsuki
05-26-2008, 11:24 PM
Anyone read this book? Oh man...its so good..

Lotus.Memoirs
05-26-2008, 11:59 PM
I personally did not like it. I thought it was too repetitive; it would've been a lot better if she shortened the middle section because the beginning was interesting, the ending was pretty good, but the middle part just dragged and dragged and I had to force myself to finish. Isn't a movie coming out based on the book?

Vicent
05-27-2008, 01:39 AM
I have readed the three book (more like some of my girl friends forced me to). But i ended up like them, althought i think the main character is a maniac, depresive and with suicide problems stalker...

The Movie comes out in november... here is the teaser

YouTube - Twilight teaser trailer OFFICIAL HD

Minami Itsuki
05-27-2008, 03:53 AM
Yeah I'm at the part right now when she takes drugs.

EtheRealdarK
06-01-2008, 01:26 PM
the movie does not come out in november you dumbass it comes out on 12-12-08 but the book as amazing and the entire series is thrilling and interesting...and on another note stephanie meyer has just come out with a new book called the host and its really good i suggest checking it out

Alerane
06-01-2008, 01:54 PM
I liked the books, though they're not my favourites I found them interesting and am waiting for the sequel and the movie ^^;

xiphosforr
06-01-2008, 02:04 PM
what's the book about ?

Minami Itsuki
06-04-2008, 05:34 AM
Girl falls in love with vampire. Yeah thats like..all.

sweeter
06-04-2008, 08:57 PM
I've only finished reading the first book, and I'm halfway through the second one. The series are getting a lot of hype, so naturally, I checked them out.

Twilight is a young adult romance concerning vampires, werewolves, and humans. It reads like two parts Harlequin, three parts fanfiction, and maybe one part Danielle Steel. Sound like a recipe for literary disaster?

Surprisingly, no.

So far, it's been quite enjoyable, in a guilty pleasure kind of way. The mythological slant is handled well, as well as the "forbidden love" aspect. The action scenes are passable. The characters are endearing, no matter how unrealistic they may be. Some of the dialogue can be downright cringe-worthy, though. I mean, "What do you hunger for more, my blood or my body?" Excuse me, I just wretched.

(:

nx6
06-13-2008, 08:58 AM
Twilight is a young adult romance concerning vampires, werewolves, and humans. It reads like two parts Harlequin, three parts fanfiction, and maybe one part Danielle Steel. Sound like a recipe for literary disaster?

Surprisingly, no.

So far, it's been quite enjoyable, in a guilty pleasure kind of way. The mythological slant is handled well, as well as the "forbidden love" aspect. The action scenes are passable. The characters are endearing, no matter how unrealistic they may be. Some of the dialogue can be downright cringe-worthy, though. I mean, "What do you hunger for more, my blood or my body?" Excuse me, I just wretched.

(:
Never before have my feeling for a book been articulated as well as me.

:biggrinlo

I try to excuse some of the dialogue as the characters caught up in their own bizarre situation.

adorkable
06-17-2008, 07:50 PM
I finished reading the first book about two hours ago. I must say, it was really good, and I seriously have to pick up the other books. Well, I am a sucker for love stories, anyway. The movie looks like something that I will have to watch, too.

Jenova
06-18-2008, 08:11 PM
-_-

/me has read this in 2006

<_<

I find it disturbing that you guys have started this year. >_>

All in all, glad that you guys have finally read it. :)

nx6
06-18-2008, 08:14 PM
Well, it's your fault for not telling us about it sooner. :p

Jenova
06-20-2008, 09:27 AM
<__________________<

I posted in an older thread which is the exact same thing as this.

The links are as follows:

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=12544

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=53734

LOOK AT THE DATES! :|

Alerane
06-22-2008, 07:28 PM
I read it way back too, but I think the popularity is jumping again because of the upcoming movie. That tends to happen.

ikkaku's girl
06-24-2008, 12:02 AM
I love love love Stephanie Meyer! I started out by reading Twilight last year, when Eclipse had just been released. I went through the series like butter.

I read her newest publication, The Host earlier this summer and it is now my favorite book!

She's a fantastic author! I'm very very very excited for August 2nd (release date of Breaking Dawn) and December (Twilight movie)!

BeeCrest
06-28-2008, 03:41 AM
To quote a friend, "The Twilight Series is a guilty pleasure for me." because I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the series. The popularity, and more so the total fangirlism, is a bit of a turn off for me to the point where uttering the name "Edward Cullen", "Twilight", "New Moon", or "Eclipse" follows somewhat annoying consequences. Carrying the books around school caused enough discussions day to day d:

Anywho I think these books were the first teen romance ones that I've read. I don't prefer romance books, but the concept of the story intrigued me; i.e. Carlisle's past. Oh, and I'd so skip into the sunset with Alice Cullen.

Wanderer
06-28-2008, 05:27 AM
I've read the series many times tbh :$. It's quite good.




Also, I don't like the looks of the movie. Especially the actors and stuff.

nx6
06-28-2008, 09:52 AM
I always envisioned Carlisle being older, perhaps somewhat gray haired, and wearing glasses. But I guess that wouldn't go so well with the eternal youth thing the vampires have. Although he could have been that age when he was changed.

Jenova
07-01-2008, 09:59 AM
The guy that Stephanie had picked out for Carlisle would have been better, IMO.

Same would go for Jacob and Jasper. :|

But c'mon, everyone. You're going to have to get over it. The character set is set... it's taken me 6 months to get adapted. xD

Bee: I lol'd.

ikkaku's girl
07-07-2008, 11:13 PM
I dunno, after the whole Eragon fiasco, I'm a little worried about them translating one of my favorite books for the big screen. I really liked Christopher Paolini's Eragon and was super excited for the movie. But the movie was a huge let down; I mean it was just not well put together, everything was just wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. So, although I'm excited to see the Twilight movie in December, I'm also very nervous about it.

Vicent
07-07-2008, 11:24 PM
Its funny, i just saw Eragon last night (i rented some movies and they gave it to me for free) and i ended up watching it. I thought the story was ok, if it were a book or something, because the movie was awfull and as i can tell its a two part movie, i dont plan on watching the second.

I really hope they dont screw up Twilight but i will still go and watch it.

yume_morpheus
07-11-2008, 02:17 AM
*takes a deep breath in expectation of impending bashing*

Twilight is, in my opinion, a book so bad that the publishers must have been insane to even touch it. I got maybe a chapter into the book before the temptation to MST overwhelmed me. I should NEVER have to MST a published work, ever, and yet it happened, because it was just that bad. I had a FIT.

ikkaku's girl
07-11-2008, 02:51 AM
@Yume_morpheus: You have a right to your opinion. A really good friend of mine read the whole book and did not like it very much. She also thinks that Stephanie Meyer is sexist. I definitely don't agree with her, but we're still good friends. I mean, I have read a few vampire novels in the past and I liked them, but I love the Twilight series. I also convinced my cousin to pick up the series and she was very happy with the books. She said it was because, in the past, she's always read about the heroine that was perfect in every way, but Meyer made Bella the complete opposite of that. So for that very reason, my friend found it sexist and my cousin found it unique. *shrug* to each their own, right?

yume_morpheus
07-11-2008, 02:56 AM
Er... I found Bella to be a Mary-Sue, in fact, and a very thinly disguised self-insert of Stephanie Meyer as well. It felt like Meyer covered up Bella's Sue-ness with intermittent flaws, but each of them could be considered 'endearing'. That, and her tendency to bawl at a sneeze I found to be just extremely irritating. I honestly felt like I was reading a fanfiction. XD

nx6
07-11-2008, 03:00 AM
Twilight is, in my opinion, a book so bad that the publishers must have been insane to even touch it. I got maybe a chapter into the book before the temptation to MST overwhelmed me. I should NEVER have to MST a published work, ever, and yet it happened, because it was just that bad. I had a FIT.

What does Mountian Standard Time have to do with Twilight? :confused:

yume_morpheus
07-11-2008, 03:03 AM
Mm, let me explain. Way back when, there was a television show called Mystery Science Theatre 3000, or MST. What that show did was screen horrifically bad movies (like... MANOS, THE HANDS OF FATE... still cracks me up), and the characters in the show (being a human and two robots) would intermittently stick witty commentary in between the lines. It was quite amusing, and now that's become a sort of... meme on LJ. People MST things all the damn time, and they're by-and-large hilarious. Granted, Twilight wasn't so abysmally bad that it supplied me with an endless stream of ammo, but it certainly was ripe for lulz-milking (a lot of it seemed to be lengthy, glossy character descriptions, which I summarized in the MST in square brackets as [BORING CHARACTER CRAP] XD)

ikkaku's girl
07-11-2008, 03:10 AM
@ +nx6: hahahahaha! I still don't know what MST means, but I assume it's bad.
@ yume_morpheus: I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time, this is a children's novel; of course it's going to be in simple english. As for you not liking the main character, that's like not liking a character in a play. Just cause you don't like a particular character, it does not make the whole story bad. Yes, the fact that you don't like the main character, is problamatic, but I still think it's judgemental to base your opinion of an author, solely on one character. But who am I to talk, I hated catcher in the rye, and apparently it's one of the most famous books in America.

yume_morpheus
07-11-2008, 03:16 AM
Famous doesn't necessarily equal good, ikkaku's girl. In any case, I'm... fairly well read, and I feel confident enough in that reading the first chapter of Twilight (on Adobe Reader, so naturally my eyes hurt for a while after. XD) that Meyer is incapable of forming a convincing character. Characters are essential parts of stories, and if an author cannot write characterisation properly, then that reflects poorly on the rest of the story. Naturally, I didn't read enough of the plot to be able to comment on plot development effectively, but I got to the bit where the vampires are introduced. All beautiful, all goffick. I'm sorry, but that's not 'me not liking a character', that's just bad characterisation. Twilight was wholly beyond the realm of believability (obviously, fantasy aside).

Additionally, the fact that one of my friends is such a stark raving fan that she calls her boyfriend Rob 'Jasper' convinces me that this is more... ageless.

Vicent
07-11-2008, 03:48 AM
She also thinks that Stephanie Meyer is sexist.

I actually agreed with your friend, Sthephanie Meyer is definetely sexist, making the main character a typical steriptype of male model, white smooth skin, nice color eyes, big lips, long hair and his antagonist quite the contrary, dark skin, black eyes, etc.

Check out Twilight forums and you will found out those are filled with, im sorry, really stupid fangirls all yelling out load how beautiful Edward Cullen is and how much they hate the american native, Jacob Black. Sthepanie Meyer had turned a whole generation of womans into sexist, perfectionist and racist.

But I still like the book, I know its not good, i feel the narration was a little poor... but hey, who doesnt like a bad novel?? those always end up being a little interesting.

nx6
07-11-2008, 03:54 AM
Mm, let me explain. Way back when, there was a television show called Mystery Science Theatre 3000, or MST. What that show did was screen horrifically bad movies (like... MANOS, THE HANDS OF FATE... still cracks me up), and the characters in the show (being a human and two robots) would intermittently stick witty commentary in between the lines. It was quite amusing, and now that's become a sort of... meme on LJ. People MST things all the damn time, and they're by-and-large hilarious. Granted, Twilight wasn't so abysmally bad that it supplied me with an endless stream of ammo, but it certainly was ripe for lulz-milking (a lot of it seemed to be lengthy, glossy character descriptions, which I summarized in the MST in square brackets as [BORING CHARACTER CRAP] XD)
Ah, well. I know what MST3000 is. But the phrase "I wanted to MST it" is not familiar to me. If it really is big on LJ, hooray. But that's not the website you're on right now.

Check out Twilight forums and you will found out those are filled with, im sorry, really stupid fangirls all yelling out load how beautiful Edward Cullen is and how much they hate the american native, Jacob Black. Sthepanie Meyer had turned a whole generation of womans into sexist, perfectionist and racist.
Spoken like someone who hasn't read the second novel. :babies:

Vampires are traditionally very pale with dark hair. It's not Stephanie Meyer's fault the character has this archetype.

Vicent
07-11-2008, 03:57 AM
Ive read the three books XD

But im right about those fan girls, Ive been into some Twilights and its a fact about those fangirls worshiping Edward Cullen as god. I got two friends that introduced me into those books and i always tell them, of all characters, Edward Cullen its the worst, i like Jacob better. But they are just obssesed with Edward, and they even go around the city looking for guys that match Ed´s profile for "thats their new standart of a good boyfriend". Seriously.

yume_morpheus
07-11-2008, 03:58 AM
Ouch, nx6. That was a little harsh... ;_; I'm accustomed to 'MST' being a popular term EVERYWHERE I go.

ikkaku's girl
07-11-2008, 10:38 AM
I'd just like to point out that Twilight is just a book... a fictional book. It's purpose is to entertain, not to present a storyline in the most PC way possible. It sometimes erks me when people read too much into things. Just because you can make an arguement that a comment or charctarization is sexist or racist (which could be done to anything) does not mean the author maliciously made her characters in order to perpetuate stereotypes, which are by the way, present in our fairytales, news reports, and movies. If you're going to go that far, I guess you could call me racist and sexist for not seeing anything wrong with her stories.

As for her style of writing, you can criticize it, call it fanfiction or whatever, but it doesn't mean that people won't like it. I suppose it's like Britney Spears, yah, I can't stand her or her music, but there's no denying that she's been very successful. "Good" and "bad" are very subjective terms; what's hideous and tacky to you may be beautiful and elegant to me. I like Stephanie Meyer's writing style. I am not like Bella at all, and I would never be attracted to someone like Edward, but I still feel very attached to their characters and find myself wanting their happiness.

About the Edward vs. Jacob thing, I'm personally a Jacob fan, but I know many Edward fans. It may seem a little bit much to compare Stephanie Meyer with J.K. Rowling (another author I absolutely love) but the best part about making your characters so different is so that they can be hated or loved. I can't tell you how many discussions I've had with my friends over the true nature of a Harry Potter character. For those of us who love Jacob, we definitely see Edward's character as less than perfect. For the Edward-worshippers Neko Oni was talking about, they are more likely to find fault in Jacob's character.

Also, i still maintain that it is a children's novel. Harry Potter is also a children's novel but J.K. is able to make the story accessible and appealing to all ages (similarly, so does Stephanie Meyer).

yume_morpheus
07-11-2008, 02:34 PM
... the difference being that J.K. Rowling was able to concoct a convincing storyline, and while it wasn't the BEST characterization I've seen, it was certainly good.

Vicent
07-11-2008, 04:27 PM
@ikkakus, you seen to misunderstand my position, I like the seres, i just dont like the idiology Stephanie (intentionaly or unintentionaly) have caused among the new generation of readers, wheter she liked it or not, fact is a fact. It happened with J.K Rowling, except that she was praised for making a whole generation of kids to get interested into reading books.

And i just dont like Edward Cullen, if it wasnt for his stubborness and irresponsibility, nothing would have happened to Bella, Sthepanie knew that and thats why in the third book he pictured him as a character in redemption, main reason im a JacobxBella supporter. But, I guess if it wasnt for his reckless actions and lack of self control, there wouldnt be a story to begin with.

And if i critize his writing, its because she is not the best writer not because i feel the story is bad.

ikkaku's girl
07-11-2008, 08:49 PM
@Neko Oni: I never meant my comment as a personal attack against you or anyone else for that matter. I respect everyone's opinions and critiques. I apologize if I offended anyone.

My post was not to bash anyone or to prove myself right. For some reason, I just get very defensive when a opinion is presented in a very strong tone, like it’s fact. I understand that is just a form of persuasion and that it works very well in certain cases, but the more adamantly one fights their side without acknowledgement of the possible validity for the contrary, the more likely I am to take the opposing side. I find I am more convinced and satisfied with an argument, when the opposite view is acknowledged and respected.

To me, opinions and arguments are more convincing when presented honestly, respectfully, and maybe slightly sugar-coated.

As a comment more relevant to this thread, I’m fairly new to the vampire genre and pleasure reading for that matter. I hated reading for a long long long time! After picking up the Harry Potter series a few years ago, I’ve been reading almost any fantasy book I can get my hands on, which lead to my fascination with vampires and werewolves. I enjoy reading different interpretations of “vampire,” the rules of their existence and how they regard life, be it human or animal… very interesting stuff. From what I’ve read and heard about Twilight, Meyer’s interpretation of vampire is pretty standard and somewhat cliché, but seeing as it was the first vampire novel that I read, I’m a bit sentimental about the story as well as the author. I’m not sure if it’s because I read it first or if it was just a coincidence, but I just don’t enjoy other vampire novels as much as I enjoy the Twilight series.

Vicent
07-12-2008, 04:42 AM
You felt i was attacking you or that i felt that you were attacking me? sorry about that then. Then again its not that I dont like the series, its that i dont like Fans reactions to Edward character and the character itself.

ikkaku's girl
07-12-2008, 05:18 AM
Okay... group hug! I never felt attacked and I hope I never offended you.

Hurray for JACOB!!!!!!!

girl
07-12-2008, 08:24 AM
Thank you sooo much, yume_morpheus, for introducing me to MSTs. No, really. After reading your post, I was interested and googled MSTs, and spent an amazing hour looking through HILARIOUS House MD MSTs. so therefore, i LOVE you.

Back to the topic on hand:
Twilight.
I do agree with the people in the thread who say it's not that well written. Because it's really not. It's not badly written, but the style is generic, seriosly, anyone could have written it.
EXCEPT, Stephenie Meyer came up with the idea. And its a great idea.

And btw, I used to be a die-hard "ew omg that book looks so horrible, it's so catered to teenage girls i am never reading that and plus its about vampires, wtf" person. then i decided to try reading it before i started bashing it, and it absolutely drew me in. And really, when someone asks "whats it about?" I personally dont say 'vampires." I say it's a love story. because thats really what the entire plot centers around-- Edward and Bella's relationship. It just so happens that the cullens are vampires.

Why I like Twilight so much
-The first and foremost reason and 99% of why I love it. It's a love story. Plain and simple. and i'm a total sucker for love stories. B/E parts are so cute and adorable, they make me happy.
-I'm sorry, I'm a total Edward fangirl. Seriously guys, JACOB DOES SUCK. Because I am totally ignorant and can only see Edward as the good guy because he is absolutely perfect. Sorry to all those people above who dont like Edward
-The characterizations, while not the best, are good. IMO. You can imagine them as real people (without the fact that theyre vampires). At least, I can. Stephenie Meyer does a good job of creating her characters.

yume_morpheus
07-15-2008, 03:42 AM
Glad I could help. XD

adorkable
07-17-2008, 05:44 PM
I really can't see how you can compare Stephenie Meyer and JK Rowling. Okay, so you could compare them in terms of popularity, but as for writing style, they're completely different. Twilight is more character-driven, whereas Harry Potter is centered around the plot. Just pointing that out.

Oh, and Edward > Jacob. No, I'm not an obsessed fangirl, but that's just what I think. Jacob annoys me, but to an extent. I just don't see Bella with Jacob.

nx6
07-17-2008, 11:35 PM
Jacob was too cocky. Edward was powerful, but more reserved.

ikkaku's girl
07-18-2008, 01:16 AM
Just so we're clear, I like Jacob. Bella obviously likes Edward, but if it were me I'd pick Jacob.

Jenova
07-18-2008, 03:02 PM
I don't understand why people LIKE Jake. :|

Like... he'd MAUL her if he had to imprint. :/

yume_morpheus
07-18-2008, 03:17 PM
I, for one, cannot imagine Bella as a real person. If she existed, she might dehydrate from consistent and uniform BAWWWWing. Furthermore, all of the OTHER characters are PERFECT! Perfect people don't exist, at least not readily and in great bloody congregations like Edward & co. do!

Jenova
07-19-2008, 12:06 AM
Huhu.

Remember that Edward DOESN'T think he's perfect. xD

None of them are! :|

We're all MADE to think that. :>

ikkaku's girl
07-19-2008, 12:12 AM
I don't understand why people LIKE Jake. :|

Like... he'd MAUL her if he had to imprint. :/

I like Jake because I tend root for the underdog. It takes a lot of guts to be honest with yourself and with the person you care the most about. I think it takes even more courage for someone in Jacob’s situation to openly show his feelings for Bella, even though deep down, he knows she will never leave Edward. I guess I empathize with him on the impossible love situation and I admire his self-confidence. I also like how sometimes, he knows Bella better than she knows herself. He can relate with her well because, I mean, at one point in time, they both felt ignored by the person they loved the most. Even though, she’s stubborn and somewhat blind, Jake is relatively patient with her he tries his best to make her happy. You can just tell that it eats him up to know that he can never fully heal her wounds. But he still tries his best to be the person that can make Bella happy. Although some of his ideas are pretty reckless, and Edward would probably never let her do things that are so dangerous, Jacob can see that it helps her through the pain. I think he’d do anything if it brought her a little closer to happiness. At least, that’s how I read it. :)

Ryuuiku
07-19-2008, 02:17 AM
I really enjoy the Twilight series and I love Edward to me he stands out the most out of all of them! When school starts again I will start reading the second book...

sweeter
07-23-2008, 10:45 AM
I, for one, cannot imagine Bella as a real person. If she existed, she might dehydrate from consistent and uniform BAWWWWing. Furthermore, all of the OTHER characters are PERFECT! Perfect people don't exist, at least not readily and in great bloody congregations like Edward & co. do!
Well, Twilight is a teenage-escapist novel, you know... It can hardly be faulted for being good at what it is.

I don't understand why people LIKE Jake. :|

Like... he'd MAUL her if he had to imprint. :/
LAWL. MAUL HER. XD

Bella obviously likes Edward, but if it were me I'd pick Jacob.
I'd pick Jacob, too. I like his determination (which, of course, is only a polite euphemism for his disturbing obsessive tendencies). Also, his rock-hard abs.

(:

adorkable
08-03-2008, 11:39 PM
Has anyone read Breaking Dawn?

Spoiler alert!
I have to say, as much as I wanted to love the book, I didn't like it. I guess you could say that I'm content, but I was just really let down by Stephenie. There are so many things that I dislike, which could have been so much better. I loved the beginning - the wedding, seeing Jacob again, the honeymoon... But then it just... stopped. The plot was such a disappointment. And what was with Jacob imprinting on a blood-drinking baby? Bella's baby, too?! That was just wrong. Twisted. The book could have been so much better. I'll stop there.

girl
08-04-2008, 12:10 AM
adorkable-
exactly!
my thoughts exactly. it wasnt exactly amazing like, say, the final harry potter book, but i was content. it tied up the ends nicely and i liked the happy ending but the book was kind of drama-free. i mean, i love drama free books, so im prefectly happy with how it turned out but i can totally see how it might be a disappointment to others. i mean, i cant believe there wasnt a fight at the end. it was like building up to a big fight and i was expecting some people to die, (like ROSALIE the little *****) but everything was just TOO happy. im glad edward and bella stayed together through the whole thing though

A&E
08-04-2008, 12:42 AM
I don't read these books or anything, but can someone explain to me what "imprinting" is? My friend keeps making these lame jokes about it and I have no idea what she's talking about.

nx6
08-04-2008, 01:27 AM
I don't read these books or anything, but can someone explain to me what "imprinting" is? My friend keeps making these lame jokes about it and I have no idea what she's talking about.
In the second book Bella grows close to a group of Native Americans who are in fact werewolves. The werewolves go though a psychological change called imprinting where they fall in love in a way they can't control. It doesn't follow normal rules of society as far as age, appearance, past association or social status, etc. It's a deeper biological reaction they can't fight.

The person a werewolf imprints on will find themselves the subject of the werewolves affection and undying devotion.

adorkable
08-04-2008, 09:11 AM
adorkable-
exactly!
my thoughts exactly. it wasnt exactly amazing like, say, the final harry potter book, but i was content. it tied up the ends nicely and i liked the happy ending but the book was kind of drama-free. i mean, i love drama free books, so im prefectly happy with how it turned out but i can totally see how it might be a disappointment to others. i mean, i cant believe there wasnt a fight at the end. it was like building up to a big fight and i was expecting some people to die, (like ROSALIE the little *****) but everything was just TOO happy. im glad edward and bella stayed together through the whole thing though

Aghh, I know! Bella had everything. She didn't have to sacrifice ANYTHING. Seriously. She got her sexy time. She got Edward. She became a vampire (and an amazing one at that, without any difficulties at all, really). She got her baby. No one close to her died. She didn't lose her parents. No sacrifices, nothing.

I think the book sends out a very wrong message to young readers.

Icestorm
08-04-2008, 10:38 AM
GG, I picked it up today.

So im defiently not reading any of those spoilers, but one thing ive realised as ive read these books, im incredibly like Jake.. Except for the dark skin and werewolf thing, his character is very like me.


As far as the books go, ive been very pleasantly suprised, usually I wouldnt read a love story, the only thing that drew me in was the fantasy aspect of it. But infact, that ended up not being the reason I read it, I ended up reading because the characters compelled me so much. Its defiently entered into my favourite books, but where it has entered is yet to be determined until I read breaking dawn.

btw, im not biased to Jacob because he is like me.. I like parts about both Edward and Jacob.

adorkable
08-04-2008, 12:59 PM
That's also one of the reasons why I love the books so much (apart from Breaking Dawn, though) - they're all character-driven, and the characters make the story what it is.

That is why I don't like Breaking Dawn! It felt so disconnected from the other books; there was no 'voice'. Bella wasn't there. Apart from the first few chapters, it didn't feel like it was Bella telling the story anymore. I liked the idea of Jacob telling the story for a bit, but then I got annoyed. I wanted to know what Bella was feeling during her pregnancy, not Jacob's very annoying thoughts. He made me hate Rosalie. I wanted to know why Bella felt the need to have Rosalie by her side. I wanted to know about the pain Bella was feeling inside of her, both mentally and physically. I wanted to know what she thought blood tasted like!

Most of the characters weren't there. It didn't feel right. I don't understand how Rosalie could give up Nessie so easily to Bella. There was so much emphasis on her only caring for the baby. Alice wasn't even around for most of the book!

Sorry, but I don't like Jacob at all. :(
Heh.

girl
08-05-2008, 11:19 PM
jacob. at first i didint like him at all but after reading breaking dawn, ive understood him more and i like him. and now that hes not competing with edward anymore, theres no reason for me to not like him.

i like the part in the middle of BD when it's jacobs perspective. he was funny and it really let us get to know more of his character. before, to me, he was just a petulant little kid that wanted what he couldnt have. BD definitely made me like him more

and to adorkable- i didint really mind the jacob part. it was funny, and bella through the pregnancy would have been so much more boring. seriously, it would be like
"ow. this hurts"
"oh edward looks so sad too bad im not gonna give up this baby"
"oh hai jacob. sorry about drawing you here again and again"
"im so glad me and rosalie are friends now"
"HOLY MOTHER OF GOD THIS HURTS LIKE HELL"
"ow ow ow ow owow ow ow ow ow ow"
"i love my baby sooooo much"
"im going to live!"
"blood. ew but not really. its kinda good"
"renesmee is such a great name and not totally cheesy and ugly and soo unneccesarily combining my mother and esme even though esme isnt really a character in the books and is nowhere near as close to me(bella) as alice me"
"i love my baby"
"ow"

jacob made things so much more interesting, with the pack troubles and more bout imprinting and leah and seth and interactions with the other vampires.

ikkaku's girl
08-05-2008, 11:31 PM
haven't finished it yet so I'm not reading the spoilers but... yay! one more Jacob fan... okay so maybe not a fan but... maybe one less person who hates him. YAY!

TuRm0iL
08-06-2008, 12:22 AM
Ok, so I liked the book for the most part, it had a good plot with Bella getting pregnant, and the baby being thought to be a immortal child.
The Jacob section was fairly interesting too, with the separate clans and Jacob imprinting on the baby (did NOT see that coming).
The only letdown in this book was the fact that though we we're set up for an EPIC Volturi VS rebels fight, we got jipped SO HARD. Instead Bella's shield technique becomes all but unstoppable within a few chapters, and the Volturi get cold feet and leave as if they weren't just about to destroy everyone in sight.
IMO this book could have been SO MUCH better had Stephanie included a little drama, a battle, and a casualty or two (Perhaps Edward slips out of the shield and becomes brainwashed into following the Volturi, and Bella dies trying to save him? Book ends with Jacob and Renesmee on a plane to Rio).
As for Bella's love life, I'm not too particular on really who she ended up with. Edward, Jacob, hell even Mike (that would have been funny, but would have taken an ODD turn of events to happen). So in my case, I never really found myself getting angry with any of the characters as they became competition in Bella's love life.

Baby-Pie
08-06-2008, 12:59 AM
oh my this book is old old
read it looooong back
i remember loving it .... amazing story and the twists were ugghh too good kept me on the edge of my seat

girl
08-06-2008, 01:13 AM
well yes the first one is kind of old but not that old. 2005 or 2006 i think? and the 4th one just came out....

adorkable
08-07-2008, 08:26 AM
jacob. at first i didint like him at all but after reading breaking dawn, ive understood him more and i like him. and now that hes not competing with edward anymore, theres no reason for me to not like him.

i like the part in the middle of BD when it's jacobs perspective. he was funny and it really let us get to know more of his character. before, to me, he was just a petulant little kid that wanted what he couldnt have. BD definitely made me like him more

and to adorkable- i didint really mind the jacob part. it was funny, and bella through the pregnancy would have been so much more boring. seriously, it would be like
"ow. this hurts"
"oh edward looks so sad too bad im not gonna give up this baby"
"oh hai jacob. sorry about drawing you here again and again"
"im so glad me and rosalie are friends now"
"HOLY MOTHER OF GOD THIS HURTS LIKE HELL"
"ow ow ow ow owow ow ow ow ow ow"
"i love my baby sooooo much"
"im going to live!"
"blood. ew but not really. its kinda good"
"renesmee is such a great name and not totally cheesy and ugly and soo unneccesarily combining my mother and esme even though esme isnt really a character in the books and is nowhere near as close to me(bella) as alice me"
"i love my baby"
"ow"

jacob made things so much more interesting, with the pack troubles and more bout imprinting and leah and seth and interactions with the other vampires.
Hahahah, I guess that is true, but I still would've liked to know what was going on in her head. With Jacob's perspective, it took us out of the Cullen house. Plus, we did need to know what was going on with the pack and Jacob being the alpha and whatnot... But you know. I still dislike Jacob. Heh.

On reflection, I guess I'm content with the book. I mean, I was pretty damn shocked throughout most of it because I wasn't expecting any of that to happen, but there were quite a lot of things that got on my nerves. I guess I'm just stubborn. I loved the last two pages, though!

Askand
08-11-2008, 12:18 AM
Well I found about this book like a week ago, or two cant remember well I'm already reading Breaking Dawn (yes I'm a fast reader XD) but well I think the story is good and nice. Bella irritates me a bit but I can understand her at certain extend. Between Jake and Ed I prefer Edward. Although Jake is cool and awesome character I guess the fact that Edward the immortal the lonely guy caught me a lot during the first book and thats why I decided to take his side. But I'm not a fangirl (Thank God, too old for that XD). About the books they are writing for teen audience this are the firsts books Mrs. Meyer made so I dont think being so hard on her is good. My humble opinion.
I read her inspiration for these books and it was original since this idea came to her on a dream. Also this thing about vampires is different from other vampire novels. They dont do some stuff and maybe their attention was more center about the looks but if you seek almost all vampire novels beauty is the essential for them.
I read the spoilers but didnt mean too much. Everyone got their own opinion which is good. Not everyone likes a book. So in the end I liked the books and I am patiently waiting for Midnight Sun which is the book of Twilight narrated thru the eyes of Edaward Cullen I read the sneak peek the author posted on her site and I found quite cool and different.At least the series are cool and the movie as far as I saw was also cool but with differences.
Just a reminder movies based on books are not equal save for some exceptions and I can only mention two of them. I will post my thought on BD as soon as I read it.^^

ikkaku's girl
08-11-2008, 10:22 PM
So I finished BD this weekend.

At first it was kinda cute with the wedding and all, but then I found myself a little bored and anxious as the mood was just too happy for this series. I found the plot to be pretty boring too. Actually, until I started writing this post, I hadn't realized how dissappointed I was with BD.

1. I felt that the major plot was resolved midway through the book (made the rest boring).
2. As others have said, the climax was pretty anticlimactic.
3. Bella, going from weakest link to invincible hero was just too much of a drastic change.
4. At first, I hated that the story was told from Jacob's pt of view. But by the end of book 2, I found myself disappointed to be hearing the story from Bella's point of view again. I loved the humor between Jacob and Leah, and I was sad that Jacob never spoke much for the remainder of the book.
5. I don't feel anything was resolved between the two wolf packs.
6. I was also really really really disappointed with J. Jenks or whatever his name was. Seriously? A crooked lawyer? LAME!
7. *sigh*I miss the Jacob that was in love with Bella already. At least when he was in love with her he wasn't as possessive. He knew Bella belonged to Edward, and when he got too posessive, Bella/Edward definitely reminded him to back off. I feel he oversteps his boundries with Renesmee, and I see him as very immature in his desires to care for Renesmee. Yeah, yeah... imprinting, I know. But still, he could show a little more respect and concern for her mother who also happens to be his best friend, and former "girlfriend." Uncontrollable my ass... it's just immaturity. I still love Jacob, but he irritates me now.

nx6
08-11-2008, 11:03 PM
So I finished BD this weekend.

At first it was kinda cute with the wedding and all, but then I found myself a little bored and anxious as the mood was just too happy for this series. I found the plot to be pretty boring too. Actually, until I started writing this post, I hadn't realized how dissappointed I was with BD.

1. I felt that the major plot was resolved midway through the book (made the rest boring).
2. As others have said, the climax was pretty anticlimactic.
3. Bella, going from weakest link to invincible hero was just too much of a drastic change.
4. At first, I hated that the story was told from Jacob's pt of view. But by the end of book 2, I found myself disappointed to be hearing the story from Bella's point of view again. I loved the humor between Jacob and Leah, and I was sad that Jacob never spoke much for the remainder of the book.
5. I don't feel anything was resolved between the two wolf packs.
6. I was also really really really disappointed with J. Jenks or whatever his name was. Seriously? A crooked lawyer? LAME!
7. *sigh*I miss the Jacob that was in love with Bella already. At least when he was in love with her he wasn't as possessive. He knew Bella belonged to Edward, and when he got too posessive, Bella/Edward definitely reminded him to back off. I feel he oversteps his boundries with Renesmee, and I see him as very immature in his desires to care for Renesmee. Yeah, yeah... imprinting, I know. But still, he could show a little more respect and concern for her mother who also happens to be his best friend, and former "girlfriend." Uncontrollable my ass... it's just immaturity. I still love Jacob, but he irritates me now.


I thought the lack of a final fight was the biggest problem for the book. All that build-up to have Alice pop in and save the day? Bella's sudden mastery and power-up of her shield power was kinda plausable, as she was a newborn vampire still. Jacob and Edward suddenly becoming best buds so fast was more out there. Also, Bella and her Dad coming to terms with her being a vampire went too smoothly.

I thought the section told from Jacob's point of view was good. I should have expected it after that short bit at the end of the last book was done the same, but I wasn't until I actually saw the Table of Contents for the new book. It wasn't as fanfiction-y as it could have been, mostly because there was very little overlap between the different character sections. Replaying the same time frame from someone else's point of view would have been mega-boring. Jacob did seem a little too simplified character-wise in his part, though.

Things not resolved:

The wolf pack disputes.
Bella going to Dartmouth.
The Volturi situation - I was expecting it to turn into "they want to take Renessme" after all that talk about how they liked collecting special people. It just still feels unfinished.