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Demexor
12-04-2005, 08:15 PM
Why does everyone like Hitsugaya, I find him the worst (for use of a better word. overabundant) Captain...he talks way too grown up and has too much responsibility for his material personality. I think the contrasting on hitsugaya is just unjustified.

Can anyone care to justify the meaning of Hitsugaya? Ofcourse without flmaing me just because I disagree with something you like. If you can do that. then i'll happily continue discussing my reasons for disagreing with the character of 10th Division Captain Hitsugaya Toushiro.

Raku
12-04-2005, 08:18 PM
o.O I think that's a really good question, Hitsugaya.. sure he's cool but it's really overrated how many fans he got in here

When I saw him fighting Ichimaru and before that I was like : Well.. I guess he's ok.. well he too should be, he's a captain .." Then you come in here and he's the most popular character ever in bleach.

^^ The day this forum have no Hitsugaya sigs or Avatars I commit suicide lol

animalistic
12-04-2005, 08:22 PM
lets see, he looks and talks cool, cool personality, cool VC :p , and a super freakin cool zanpakutoh!!! wuts there not to like

lets see, he looks and talks cool, cool personality, cool VC :p , and a super freakin cool zanpakutoh!!! wuts there not to like, plus the fact the he is a genius/prodigy makes him even cooler :headbang:

Raku
12-04-2005, 08:23 PM
o.O I think the whole " BOOYAH! ICE DRAGON!".. is kinda.. Dragons is seen so many times before D:

And dude ^^ you're repeating yourself hehe

Demexor
12-04-2005, 08:24 PM
@ Raku thank you for your positive reply. Yeah I noticed the huge array of Hitsaguya fans and to me hes really overrated.

I just dont think his maturity fits well with his overall appearance. sure someone may be mature but its just not fitting enough.

@animal
Sure you can say hes cool. His sword is cool. but doesnt he wield the greatest ice-type zanpakuto in Soul society? and yet he was overpowered by Gin? and supposedly he is a "genius/prodigy" Yet Gin still managed to out think Hitsaguya using his shikai and aiming for "Hinamori" correct?

Sure his look is cool. but cool in a overly mature child way. Kids who act like adults yet impossible since they still have to grow up

You can't judge Hitsaguya by his VC. That just makes this topic move away from hitsaguya towards Matsuamoto's breasts...*yawn* Im overtired with the testosterone enraged 13 year olds i encounted on the internet. So spare me.

Anyone Care to elaborate?

animalistic
12-04-2005, 08:32 PM
@ Raku thank you for your positive reply. Yeah I noticed the huge array of Hitsaguya fans and to me hes really overrated.

I just dont think his maturity fits well with his overall appearance. sure someone may be mature but its just not fitting enough.

@animal
Sure you can say hes cool. His sword is cool. but doesnt he wield the greatest ice-type zanpakuto in Soul society? and yet he was overpowered by Gin? and supposedly he is a "genius/prodigy" Yet Gin still managed to out think Hitsaguya using his shikai and aiming for "Hinamori" correct?

Sure his look is cool. but cool in a overly mature child way. Kids who act like adults yet impossible since they still have to grow up

You can't judge Hitsaguya by his VC. That just makes this topic move away from hitsaguya towards Matsuamoto's breasts...*yawn* Im overtired with the testosterone enraged 13 year olds i encounted on the internet. So spare me.

Anyone Care to elaborate?
dude wtf? when was hitsu overpowered by gin? if someone was being overpowered id have to say that its gin and he ended up gettin his arm frozen cuz he underestimated hitsu, and even if hitsu is weaker he is called a genius cuz he was able to reach a cpt. level at such an early age, which means if he was as old as gin then who knows how strong he would be. o and if he has the strongest ice/water zanpakutoh does that mean that its stronger than gins?

Nood
12-04-2005, 08:33 PM
He owned Gin. The thing that he is sneaky and stuff saved him.
Anyway i dont like him too.
Probably because it took me many episodes to realize that he is a male.
About he talking all grownup... well hes probably more than 100 years old.

Z_Blitz
12-04-2005, 08:34 PM
IMO I don't think that Hitsugaya deserves to be all that popular... Sure he's got a cool zanpakutoh (I admit its probably the coolest I've seen so far!) and is what people describe a prodigy... "The reincarnation of a Heavenly Guardian that descends every century" All of that do count in making him all popular and stuff...But honestly, I think he's given much more respect than what he deserves...
First I think he's pretty immature... Sure he wears a cool front, but so do all captains, in battle you can see him being a bit impulsive... I mean look at his battle with Gin, he went on berserk! True it was because of Hinamori but still its was too overdone!In the manga he releases his bankai directly after knowing that Aizen was responsible behind the cope! Don't you think thats being a tad too impulsive?
Second, yes true he is the prodigy and the reincarnation of the heavenly guardian, but I mean he's weak for those terms... He's knocked out cold by Aizen before even attacking! Even Ichigo held up better than that!...
Now I'm not saying he's bad either... There are a lot of things that people see in him that make them like him, but they just don't seem enough for me... I think he's a good character but not the best out there...

animalistic
12-04-2005, 08:35 PM
ya he probably is atleast 100 years old which is waaay younger than the other captains

Ishikawa_Masahiro
12-04-2005, 08:36 PM
hitsuguya is one of my favorite i think his zanpak-toh's gaurd is the tightest other than that and him being the "genius" or "prodigy" and his zanpaktohs abilities...well i guess theres nothing not to like about him..well besides his overrated popularity -_-

Neve
12-04-2005, 08:37 PM
I agree with demextor - personally, I can't see anything particularly special about Hitsugaya other than the fact that he is the youngest captain, which is not a particularly impressive feat nor particularly stylish compared with some of the other captains' achievements. I will admit that he looks quite cool, but some of the other captains and vice captains (kenpachi, komamura) look a lot better, so why the fuss about Hitsaguya?

Demexor
12-04-2005, 08:39 PM
@Animal
Please. refrain yourself from the manner of flaming. i know it's hard but please. for the sake of other people.

To answer your questions.

Sure Hitsaguya reacher Captain level through his genius mannerisms. but does that mean Yachiru is smarter than Hitsaguya since shes younger? hmm? Does that mean if Yachiru was Hitsaguya's age then Yachiru would be stronger? no? yes?

well having the "strongest" ice type zanoakuto certainly has to be decently strong. look at Yama. hes got the strongest fire type. certainly Hitsaguya needs something atleast outstanding to withhold the name "stongest" sure he's not as powerful as Yama. I don't think anyone atm is.

animalistic
12-04-2005, 08:40 PM
IMO I don't think that Hitsugaya deserves to be all that popular... Sure he's got a cool zanpakutoh (I admit its probably the coolest I've seen so far!) and is what people describe a prodigy... "The reincarnation of a Heavenly Guardian that descends every century" All of that do count in making him all popular and stuff...But honestly, I think he's given much more respect than what he deserves...
First I think he's pretty immature... Sure he wears a cool front, but so do all captains, in battle you can see him being a bit impulsive... I mean look at his battle with Gin, he went on berserk! True it was because of Hinamori but still its was too overdone!In the manga he releases his bankai directly after knowing that Aizen was responsible behind the cope! Don't you think thats being a tad too impulsive?
Second, yes true he is the prodigy and the reincarnation of the heavenly guardian, but I mean he's weak for those terms... He's knocked out cold by Aizen before even attacking! Even Ichigo held up better than that!...
Now I'm not saying he's bad either... There are a lot of things that people see in him that make them like him, but they just don't seem enough for me... I think he's a good character but not the best out there...
the only reason ichigo was able to attack aizen unlike hitsu, was becuz of the speed his bankai had, plus it didnt do him much good, i think it wouldve been less embarissin for ichigo if he was knocked out before attackin than if he attacked with bankai and his sword got stopped with a finger!!!

Demexor
12-04-2005, 08:43 PM
IMO I don't think that Hitsugaya deserves to be all that popular... Sure he's got a cool zanpakutoh (I admit its probably the coolest I've seen so far!) and is what people describe a prodigy... "The reincarnation of a Heavenly Guardian that descends every century" All of that do count in making him all popular and stuff...But honestly, I think he's given much more respect than what he deserves...
First I think he's pretty immature... Sure he wears a cool front, but so do all captains, in battle you can see him being a bit impulsive... I mean look at his battle with Gin, he went on berserk! True it was because of Hinamori but still its was too overdone!In the manga he releases his bankai directly after knowing that Aizen was responsible behind the cope! Don't you think thats being a tad too impulsive?
Second, yes true he is the prodigy and the reincarnation of the heavenly guardian, but I mean he's weak for those terms... He's knocked out cold by Aizen before even attacking! Even Ichigo held up better than that!...
Now I'm not saying he's bad either... There are a lot of things that people see in him that make them like him, but they just don't seem enough for me... I think he's a good character but not the best out there...


I agree with your spoiler sections.

The immaturity spills out. during battles. during times when Captains should keep their cool. being a genius/prodigy should you have the ability to calm your mind to think?

lol. keeping up with these replies sure is hard!

animalistic
12-04-2005, 08:46 PM
@Animal
Please. refrain yourself from the manner of flaming. i know it's hard but please. for the sake of other people.

To answer your questions.

Sure Hitsaguya reacher Captain level through his genius mannerisms. but does that mean Yachiru is smarter than Hitsaguya since shes younger? hmm? Does that mean if Yachiru was Hitsaguya's age then Yachiru would be stronger? no? yes?

well having the "strongest" ice type zanoakuto certainly has to be decently strong. look at Yama. hes got the strongest fire type. certainly Hitsaguya needs something atleast outstanding to withhold the name "stongest" sure he's not as powerful as Yama. I don't think anyone atm is.
first of all we have no idea how strong yachiru is, and who knows, maybe it'l take her like a 100 years to reach his level not sure though, we all know that there is a very big gap between the captain and the VC. but who knows maybe she would be stronger than histu if she was his age, but we cant tell cuz we dont even know how strong she is now

Demexor
12-04-2005, 08:48 PM
the only reason ichigo was able to attack aizen unlike hitsu, was becuz of the speed his bankai had, plus it didnt do him much good, i think it wouldve been less embarissin for ichigo if he was knocked out before attackin than if he attacked with bankai and his sword got stopped with a finger!!!

in reply to your spoiler

Sure Ichigo has speed. but Hitsu has experience. shouldn't experience in battle suffice enough to help you in battle by being able to interpret your opponents move? and hitsu has his "powerful zanpakuto. and Ichigo just battle Byakuya and obtained loads of wounds.

first of all we have no idea how strong yachiru is, and who knows, maybe it'l take her like a 100 years to reach his level not sure though, we all know that there is a very big gap between the captain and the VC. but who knows maybe she would be stronger than histu if she was his age, but we cant tell cuz we dont even know how strong she is now

sure we don't know how strong we is. thats my point exactly. if we dont know someone full strength then we cant compare them.
What is the big gap between Vc and Captain? Bankai? Ikkaku...Renji...and we sure as hell dont know about Rukia if she has bankai or Yumichika

animalistic
12-04-2005, 08:52 PM
in reply to your spoiler

Sure Ichigo has speed. but Hitsu has experience. shouldn't experience in battle suffice enough to help you in battle by being able to interpret your opponents move? and hitsu has his "powerful zanpakuto. and Ichigo just battle Byakuya and obtained loads of wounds.



sure we don't know how strong we is. thats my point exactly. if we dont know someone full strength then we cant compare them.
What is the big gap between Vc and Captain? Bankai? Ikkaku...Renji...and we sure as hell dont know about Rukia if she has bankai or Yumichika
usually i would agree to that, experience does make a big difference, but believe me with aizen experience is not needed, since there is such a huge gap of both power and speed between him and hitsu/ichigo so wut mattered here is if he was fast enough to keep up with him, the same thing wouldve happened to ichigo if not for his speed
p.s. where did all the hitsu fans go!!!

Demexor
12-04-2005, 08:56 PM
usually i would agree to that, experience does make a big difference, but believe me with aizen experience is not needed, since there is such a huge gap of both power and speed between him and hitsu/ichigo so wut mattered here is if he was fast enough to keep up with him, the same thing wouldve happened to ichigo if not for his speed
p.s. where did all the hitsu fans go!!!

Yes. but we do not know of Aizen's Experience but we can guess he has had much due to the complete power and overwelming reiatsu he has. which cannot simply just appear just like hitsu having the best "ice" zanpakuto yet we expect Hitsu to have some added level of power over that of the other captains due to the boost of his "powerful" sword.

P.S sorry for all the Spoilers but we are using the manga to back our comments. if you are not up to date with the manga dont open them.

Hits
12-04-2005, 09:42 PM
It's really annoying when people keep on question why everyone likes a certain character. I find it rude. I know everyone have opinions but some of the comments here seem really shallow and just seem to be picking on other people. I like Hitsugaya. Other people like Hitsugaya. No need for us to explain why we do and no need for other people to pick on him. I could easily make a thread about how say, Rukia sucks. why is everyone picking on the fact the hitsugaya get beatened when he released bankai? don't forget he also beat the other captain, ichigo and renji with just as ease or even less ease then hitsugaya.

Z_Blitz
12-04-2005, 09:47 PM
Yo people... I'm sorry to crash this Hitsugaya festive but... There's another thread discussing this... Here's the link http://www.forums.bleachportal.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4666

Demexor
12-04-2005, 09:53 PM
@Hitsu
Now that comemnt there i find rude.

First of all. We can and just have asked why others like Hitsu. I was asking since im curious why because i see nothing to him.
LoL comments seem shallow? lol this is an arguement and yes you pick on people because you have to argue, argue nicely? whats the point. you argue maturely and get answered maturely.
Sure you could make a thread asking why Rukia sucks. Sure if you wanted to know genuinly why people like Rukia just like i wish to know what Hitsu has that attracts you all. but hey if u want go ahead by all means and do it to prove a point. i might even be shocked that you did it! its soo controversial. wait! no it isn't.

@spoiler. yes we used it since its a valid point. I didn't know you threw valid points away in arguements. i thought that was the whole point valid arguemnts? OH yea it is. well im sorry to hear that you do that or are you one to back down because you cant withhold a decent arguement. I withheld Animal and his good points. and i answered just in the same mannerism as he did and we had a good arguement. but hey these days its all about being controversial. tsk.

Regards.

@Blitz cheers but i think that we are like too far ahead in this discussion to restart in tht thread. unless its agaisnt rules...lame. + We are on about Hitsu appeal not the strength.

Hits
12-04-2005, 10:41 PM
I didn't mean it like that. ^^ It just seems annoying that hitsugaya fans often have to validate ourselves and hitsugaya.

Demexor
12-04-2005, 10:45 PM
thats only because Hitsu seems so popular. It would work exactly the same if Ikkaku was the most popular and you were baffled. you would ask being curious.

Plus you didnt have to validate yourself you could have just left this thread alone, yet some respectable people answered in their opinions why they like Hitsu. Yet you firstly came and "flamed" me as such

Kyouka Suigetsu
12-04-2005, 10:58 PM
I'm a bit of a Hitsugaya fan but he really hasn't been made out to be that powerful in Bleach. He did ok against Gin, then he gets whupped by Aizen and now by that arrancar (anime people stay away). His shikai and bankai are cool though. Oh well, you can't have it all.

Demexor
12-04-2005, 11:01 PM
I'm a bit of a Hitsugaya fan but he really hasn't been made out to be that powerful in Bleach. He did ok against Gin, then he gets whupped by Aizen and now by that arrancar (anime people stay away). His shikai and bankai are cool though. Oh well, you can't have it all.

Yeah. i agree but its not really about the power that was to back some replies that were made to my post. its the appeal he has to people.

thepolia
12-04-2005, 11:15 PM
(rolls eyes) not another thread on this topic...

Hitsugaya's my favourite character in Bleach. I admit he's not the strongest, but strength is not the only factor that determines whether one likes a character or not. Different people like different aspects of a character. If everyone likes the strongest character then Yama-ji will be the only character with fans (lol that'll be scary)

What I like most about Hitsu is his potential. Sure, since he's the youngest captain in Gotei 13, he's probably among the weakest/most inexperienced captain as well, but he's still so young and there's a long long long way to go. I think it's the anticipation of what he'll be like when he's gotten older that makes him very interesting. (Yes, Yachiru also has a lot of potential, but there isn't much development on her, so I find it hard to like her as much as Hitsugaya. It'll be very interesting to see her in battle though ^^)

If you're wondering why he's gotten so many fans... well, although this may sound shallow but I do think that his appearance+ his relationship with Hinamori earn him a lot of fans. He's one of the better-looking captains and having not much romance in Bleach makes his relationship with Hinamori stand out a bit. The way he's trying so hard to protect Hinamori is very sweet.

And you can actually see he's a very sensitive and caring person behind that serious and cold look =D I love the way he lets Matsumoto sleep and does the work for her because he knows she's worried about Gin. (even when Gin is his enemy)

Also, even though he did not solve the Aizen-mystery in the end, at least he has made an attempt to solve it and made a little progress... It seems that he's the only captain who cares to step out of his room and investigate.

Need to say more?

Demexor
12-04-2005, 11:37 PM
(rolls eyes) not another thread on this topic...

Hitsugaya's my favourite character in Bleach. I admit he's not the strongest, but strength is not the only factor that determines whether one likes a character or not. Different people like different aspects of a character. If everyone likes the strongest character then Yama-ji will be the only character with fans (lol that'll be scary)

What I like most about Hitsu is his potential. Sure, since he's the youngest captain in Gotei 13, he's probably among the weakest/most inexperienced captain as well, but he's still so young and there's a long long long way to go. I think it's the anticipation of what he'll be like when he's gotten older that makes him very interesting. (Yes, Yachiru also has a lot of potential, but there isn't much development on her, so I find it hard to like her as much as Hitsugaya. It'll be very interesting to see her in battle though ^^)

If you're wondering why he's gotten so many fans... well, although this may sound shallow but I do think that his appearance+ his relationship with Hinamori earn him a lot of fans. He's one of the better-looking captains and having not much romance in Bleach makes his relationship with Hinamori stand out a bit. The way he's trying so hard to protect Hinamori is very sweet.

And you can actually see he's a very sensitive and caring person behind that serious and cold look =D I love the way he lets Matsumoto sleep and does the work for her because he knows she's worried about Gin. (even when Gin is his enemy)

Also, even though he did not solve the Aizen-mystery in the end, at least he has made an attempt to solve it and made a little progress... It seems that he's the only captain who cares to step out of his room and investigate.

Need to say more?

Finally a Very good and detailed post. Thank you.

I agree different people like different aspects of character but are there so many alike people who like Hitsu? Im guessing they all like Hitsu for all his characteristics.

With the potential of Hitsu. as he progresses wouldn't every other character progress just as he would even though he "physically" would grow up and then would if you want to say "he would have the physical body he needs." just as a young child cannot compete pyhsically like an adult. so if hitsu grew and his potential was fulfilled wouldn't the others already have an advantage with their already physically complete boies and have trained above the level there were and the new added level of Hitsu? just a thought.

Yes his "responsibilities" lets call them with protecting Hinamori is very Admirable and heroic and i admire that in his character but that would appeal also to Ichigo. as he strongly protects his friends just like hes doing with Rukia and winning his battles do he can continue and safely protect Chad, Ishda, inoue and ganju and everyone he loves. I agree with the compassion he holds towards matsumoto letting her sleep her troubles of Gin away. He does care very much so. but Ichigo who has come the farthest has protected everyone no matter what. and risked his life for everyone else.

im not so sure about his appearance maybe he adds a cute factor just like Yachiru.

Yes. he did go out and investigate and even break a few rules with the central 46 door :O OH he broke it! tut tut. If that hadnt happened then i wonder what would happen.

But none the less i appreciate your very good reply and i respect it gratefully.

Darkness_becomes (me)
12-04-2005, 11:37 PM
I like Hitsugaya's additude. He's pretty cynical. I think that fits a "genious". I love the way he acts before joining Soul Society ^_^ That kind of additude towards shinigami suggests that he was very powerful.

Demexor
12-04-2005, 11:42 PM
I like Hitsugaya's additude. He's pretty cynical. I think that fits a "genious". I love the way he acts before joining Soul Society ^_^ That kind of additude towards shinigami suggests that he was very powerful.

hmm interesting analysation. Personally I dont think his current state has any cynicism as such. I only think he has a cynical trait is with people he doesnt find trustworthy/suspicious. thats fair enough. Yeh it fits a "genius" and i like his attitude before SS hehe. "break the mould"

thepolia
12-04-2005, 11:52 PM
Finally a Very good and detailed post. Thank you.

I agree different people like different aspects of character but are there so many alike people who like Hitsu? Im guessing they all like Hitsu for all his characteristics.

With the potential of Hitsu. as he progresses wouldn't every other character progress just as he would even though he "physically" would grow up and then would if you want to say "he would have the physical body he needs." just as a young child cannot compete pyhsically like an adult. so if hitsu grew and his potential was fulfilled wouldn't the others already have an advantage with their already physically complete boies and have trained above the level there were and the new added level of Hitsu? just a thought.

Yes his "responsibilities" lets call them with protecting Hinamori is very Admirable and heroic and i admire that in his character but that would appeal also to Ichigo. as he strongly protects his friends just like hes doing with Rukia and winning his battles do he can continue and safely protect Chad, Ishda, inoue and ganju and everyone he loves. I agree with the compassion he holds towards matsumoto letting her sleep her troubles of Gin away. He does care very much so. but Ichigo who has come the farthest has protected everyone no matter what. and risked his life for everyone else.

im not so sure about his appearance maybe he adds a cute factor just like Yachiru.

Yes. he did go out and investigate and even break a few rules with the central 46 door :O OH he broke it! tut tut. If that hadnt happened then i wonder what would happen.

But none the less i appreciate your very good reply and i respect it gratefully.

Thanks for your reply. =D

Potential--- haaahaa surely he'll grow up physically but that's not what I'm referring to... I'm saying potential as in strength& maturity. He has achieved bankai, but I guess there're different levels of bankai. He's probably not at the top level yet, so (hopefully) there's still a lot more to go. I agree that he's often too impulsive in battles, and it'll be cool to see him have a more mature/cool-headed fighting style as the story progresses. I'm anticipating these from him, and I think seeing a character grow is much more interesting than seeing an already 'grown' (in terms of strength, experience, maturity) character because they've already shown their limit. That's why Ichigo is also an interesting character coz he's 'growing'...

I've never said I don't like Ichigo. Yes, he's very protective of Rukia and his friends, but I like Hitsugaya better. Guess that's because there're too many main characters with his 'nothing is impossible' attitude and it becomes a little cliche. Not saying that Hitsugaya is a completely original character but I think he's more complex in terms of character. Ichigo's always positive and I don't find much weaknesses in him. He's somewhat too perfect. Hitsugaya shows both his strenghs and weaknesses/fears. This makes him more intersting than Ichigo. I still like Ichigo, but I just like Hitsugaya more.

Haahaa as on his appearance... well this is very subjective. I've been laughed at by my friend for liking a kid =P

Sandal Hat
12-05-2005, 12:00 AM
@blitz this thread isn't concerning the strenght of Hitsugaya

Hitsugaya used to be my fav character along time ago but now some characters apeal to me more. I think some people like him because he is the only teenage captain, he has cool hair, his attitude and the fact that he is a child prodigy.


Btw, I don't think anyone should think Hitsugay is weak ONLY because he got beat extremely fast by Aizen because of other captains and vices got beat just as fast

Injektilo
12-05-2005, 12:00 AM
I think the reason for his inordinate popularity is that he fits stereotypes. People like characters to be rehashed, look at lots of Fantasy novels, little kitchen boy/chimney sweep/*insert other demeaning task here* grows up and becomes the most powerful wizard/warrior in the land, marries the princess, defeats the evil Dark Lord of the Tower of All-Consuming Darkness!11! It's an archetype, but it's what people like: Triumph over adversity, and so the books sell, even though many of them are from the same template, because it works, it checks boxes in people's minds. So too with Hitsugaya, he fits archetypes of anime characters: The prodigy, the cynic, the little kid with uber powers, he even has the most cliched Zanpakutoh we've yet seen. Like the stereotypical fantasy character, he checks the boxes people want checked and fulfills expectations, there's nothing wrong with it, it's clearly a template that works given his popularity.

It's interesting really, that he shares a voice actor with Full Metal Alchemist's Edward Elric, because he is essentially the same character, only less interesting.

Demexor
12-05-2005, 12:13 AM
Thanks for your reply. =D

Potential--- haaahaa surely he'll grow up physically but that's not what I'm referring to... I'm saying potential as in strength& maturity. He has achieved bankai, but I guess there're different levels of bankai. He's probably not at the top level yet, so (hopefully) there's still a lot more to go. I agree that he's often too impulsive in battles, and it'll be cool to see him have a more mature/cool-headed fighting style as the story progresses. I'm anticipating these from him, and I think seeing a character grow is much more interesting than seeing an already 'grown' (in terms of strength, experience, maturity) character because they've already shown their limit. That's why Ichigo is also an interesting character coz he's 'growing'...

I've never said I don't like Ichigo. Yes, he's very protective of Rukia and his friends, but I like Hitsugaya better. Guess that's because there're too many main characters with his 'nothing is impossible' attitude and it becomes a little cliche. Not saying that Hitsugaya is a completely original character but I think he's more complex in terms of character. Ichigo's always positive and I don't find much weaknesses in him. He's somewhat too perfect. Hitsugaya shows both his strenghs and weaknesses/fears. This makes him more intersting than Ichigo. I still like Ichigo, but I just like Hitsugaya more.

Haahaa as on his appearance... well this is very subjective. I've been laughed at by my friend for liking a kid =P


Yeh. The potenial thing. well seeing Hitsu's potential come into action whould be very good indeed and he is too impulsive and i like your analysation of it where you see him as an interesting character because of the flaws he has. Yes most certainly he hasnt achieved the top level of bankai since we see Byakuya use a higher level bankai which im guessing is his highest but maybe not the only ones. since that is an all out attack (senkei. senbonzakrua kageyoshi) maybe he has an all out defence we dont know. well maybe when Hitus does obtain this level of Bankai, that Ikkaku has realsed bankai and im thinking maybe there is something higher than just Bankai for standard shinigami (including Captains) just like the arrancaru have a merged bankai
but if Hitsu does obtain this power of bankai maybe there will be increased effectiveness of everyones bankai maybe even Zaraki might listen to his Zankaputo and dear god i would dread to think what power he'll unleash! and with the potenial of Hitsu being unleashed over time the overall power of everyone may increase over Hitsu still staying the same contast as before just that they'll all be stronger.

And I never said you didn't like Ichigo :) but your right the Cliché is all a bit overboard on most anime and the with the release of Hollow ichigo that proves the "i cant die/invincible" character since he is the main character Bleach is nothing without Ichigo I agree with the "ichigo is somewhat perfect" statement yet he is and has to be since he is "the" main character of bleach yet we still she him beat down and the Cliché comes back again but he has a fear of his hollow form/ the people he loves. that would be more of a disadvantage than Hitsu berserk like personality on the battlefield. it certainly makes him more interesting BUT the manga reveals a good interesting part for ichigo to play with tha aran and Aizen.

I like Ichigo's appearance. not so big on Hitsu appearance. his face shows cuteness but his facial expressions are cold and drone.

:)

I think the reason for his inordinate popularity is that he fits stereotypes. People like characters to be rehashed, look at lots of Fantasy novels, little kitchen boy/chimney sweep/*insert other demeaning task here* grows up and becomes the most powerful wizard/warrior in the land, marries the princess, defeats the evil Dark Lord of the Tower of All-Consuming Darkness!11! It's an archetype, but it's what people like: Triumph over adversity, and so the books sell, even though many of them are from the same template, because it works, it checks boxes in people's minds. So too with Hitsugaya, he fits archetypes of anime characters: The prodigy, the cynic, the little kid with uber powers, he even has the most cliched Zanpakutoh we've yet seen. Like the stereotypical fantasy character, he checks the boxes people want checked and fulfills expectations, there's nothing wrong with it, it's clearly a template that works given his popularity.

It's interesting really, that he shares a voice actor with Full Metal Alchemist's Edward Elric, because he is essentially the same character, only less interesting.

thank you for your reply.

the little kid who becomes the invincible so and so and wins everything. to me this just doesnt click in my head. its soo cliché. im all for bad guys win. something controversial something out of the hat something to "break the mould" sure it sells but will everything from the same template still sell being competitors against each other?

yes but i do like Edo. weird. since im against this Cliché yet his character seems so more interesting and not at all annoying like Hitsu. but i can understand now from everyones replies why Hitsu is popular. i just dont personally see the "pros" of Hitsu just his "cons" yet i see Edo for his Rpos and cons too. but The ending of FMA (EP 54 - i havent seen the movies) is a broken mould. it doesnt share the "happily ever after" cliché but he comes to no harm

ANYWHO. I Must Sleep. It has been a pleasure not argueing but allowing me to express my opinions against yours. let us continue tomoro where others are more than welcome to express how they feel about Hitsu. GOOD NIGHT.

Islaya
12-05-2005, 03:52 AM
Hmmm, this is somthing that has puzzeled ma a little bit too. We have only gotten to see Hitsugaya fight once in the anime and twice in the manga, and other than that he isnt really seen that often anyhow. I guess hes so popular 'cause he looks so darn cool =D

Yachiru_chan
12-05-2005, 11:55 AM
I don't see what's so cool about him. I'm not saying I despise him I'm just not much of a fan. People like him because he's youthful and successful, but i think for those characteristics I'd much prefer Yachiru. She's youthful and strong and she's also cute, and funny. He does have a funky ice/dragon zanpakutou, but its not a particularly original idea.

He's alright, but nothing that special in my opinion, he's not one of my favourite characters.

MVIK
12-05-2005, 01:14 PM
He looks cool because of his Zanpakutoh...that wat i think. I like him because i like anything that has to do with ice/water.....

brolijc
12-05-2005, 04:52 PM
no, liking him because he is a prodigy is just the side reason... if you ask me why these people like him, i think is because they think he looks cool (which i don't)... imagine, if Hitsugaya's appearance were to swop with the 2nd division VC, will he still be your fav char? i guess not

T_Ichigo
12-05-2005, 06:08 PM
dude wtf? when was hitsu overpowered by gin? if someone was being overpowered id have to say that its gin and he ended up gettin his arm frozen cuz he underestimated hitsu, and even if hitsu is weaker he is called a genius cuz he was able to reach a cpt. level at such an early age, which means if he was as old as gin then who knows how strong he would be. o and if he has the strongest ice/water zanpakutoh does that mean that its stronger than gins?

yupp you're right, Gin was the one who was owned .. Gin wasn't fast enough to see Hitsugaya catching his arm with ice ..
If Hinamori wasn't on the way, Hitsugaya would definately win that battle, ok he won lol ..
Apropos of Hitsugaya .. I think that he's the youngest captain .. and he is also famous as a genius that only appears once in hundred years .. when I heard Ichimaru saying this, I was like "damn, that's cooool!!" His voice, haircut, personality and .... his Hyorinmaru !!! ..for those reason, I'm not astonished that Hitsugaya has so many fans. He's cool but not my favourite .. If I've to choose Hitsugaya or Gin, then it would definately be Gin =)

thepolia
12-05-2005, 08:08 PM
imagine, if Hitsugaya's appearance were to swop with the 2nd division VC, will he still be your fav char? i guess not

LOL that's gross.
It's only natural that people appeal to good-looking characters more... jeez, if Ichigo looks like that 2nd division VC, then no one would watch bleach anymore.

T Ichigo: Yes Gin's arm was frozen, but he hasn't even released his zanpakutoh yet, so it's not very fair to say he's owned... But he's definitely underestimated Hitsugaya =P

SmallKid57
12-05-2005, 08:33 PM
it's true that he's overrated and is getting more than he deserves but c'mon... u gotta admit he's at least a lil cool... i mean hair, cool sword, sweet ice dragon thingy, and most of all, he's short! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT SCORE ONE FOR THE SMALL GUYS HAHAHAHAHAHA!

well yea, he's not the strongest captain, but he isn't the weakest. i'd say he's around average of the captains. but cut him some slack, he's way younger that the other captains... i mean... yea young... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT SCORE ONE FOR THE YOUNG GUYS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

and he's overrated b/c his sword definitely. i think the reason of his overpopularity is b/c his ice dragon thingy. but i mean, who doesn't like dragons... especially ice ones like his. but idk...

but in my book, he's definitely cool!

Oojo Sama
12-06-2005, 05:49 AM
Hitsuguya is a very cute character he is a litter version of Byakuya.
He is more than he looks, maybe he acts rational when it comes to hinomori but other than that he is cool and calm character. He don't show his feeling maybe this why he is so popular he is not funny either.
When he fought with Gin. Gin total owned him I don't say that he is weak but he was rushing in to the fight Gin seams to have fun he didn't even release his Zanpakuto! When he got his arm frozen he attacked where it will hurt the most! When Gin release shinsu he didn't mean to attack him he wanted to kill Hinomori he didn't want even to hurt Hitsuguya. "My Personal Point of View"
Maybe if he didn't rush in to the fight maybe he will have a chance to win the fight.

Any way for me I like him because he is a very special character and you can see him develop unlike the other Captains.

ponsy
12-06-2005, 06:03 AM
Maybe it's all the fangirls who like his attitude of protecting his childhood friend/love interest, and wanting to beat up anyone who tries to harm her. That being a desirable trait in a bishounen and all.

Hitsugaya and Ichigo are kinda similar is likeable traits for fans I think...
1) interesting hair colour
2) Geniuses... ichigo becoming powerful in less than a month, Hitsugaya being the youngest captain.
3) They both frown alot. >_>

Demexor
12-06-2005, 01:30 PM
*yawn* Blitz we have said already this is totally different topic than histu's strength this was my thread i made asking "WHY HE APPEALED TO PEOPLE" not his strength...

Demexor
12-06-2005, 01:47 PM
oh god.

Yes. And when I said strength, I didn't just mean his "physical" strength i just generalised it because I didn't want to type out

"that topic talks about his mental and physical strength and his zanpaktaou, and generalises on his appeal and isn't forced totally onto his appeal like I wished to know"

As i wasn't counting on someone to waste their time picking holes in the words I use. It's just pathetic. and damn right annoying.

*yawn* Im not one for necro-posting. I prefer a fresh thread, unclogged and easy to look through for everyone to discuss not continue on a 24+ page thread which takes ages just to see if someone has already posted a post so the minority of this forum don't flame him for posting something already said. It's damn right annoying when iggnorant little children waste their type shouting at someone over the internet over something so small..so spare me.

And as you can see the discussion isn't over. hence this post.

Oh and please. If the admins wanted it closed it would have been closed a while back. if they didn't see it then theres no worry. since its not exactly spam. and its not harming anyone. It's not like this thread is affecting anyone in a bad way, is it? hmm? no? exactly.

So stop. and go do what you were doing and i'll go do whatever I was doing beofre I got interupted by this annoyance.

brolijc
12-06-2005, 02:58 PM
i don't know how many times i have said this already, but i will just repeat it, and get it into your minds please. When Gin fought with Hitsugaya, Gin aimed for Hinamori as what we can see, but THINK OF THIS, what advantage does he have for killing Hinamori, he probably just wanted to kill Hinamori to get Hitsugaya pissed before fighting with him more seriously, and getting someone pissed don't really help you in a fight. or perharps there are other reasons, but i do not really want to say them out

thepolia
12-06-2005, 10:55 PM
i don't know how many times i have said this already, but i will just repeat it, and get it into your minds please. When Gin fought with Hitsugaya, Gin aimed for Hinamori as what we can see, but THINK OF THIS, what advantage does he have for killing Hinamori, he probably just wanted to kill Hinamori to get Hitsugaya pissed before fighting with him more seriously, and getting someone pissed don't really help you in a fight. or perharps there are other reasons, but i do not really want to say them out

Read the manga =)

And please don't close this thread. It's different from the 'Hitsu not strong enough' one.

Demexor
12-06-2005, 11:34 PM
And please don't close this thread. It's different from the 'Hitsu not strong enough' one.


See! Thanks thepolia!

General Cox
12-07-2005, 12:35 AM
try not to spam all over this topic if its going to be kept open 8-)

i see what is meant about hitsu, lots of people like him, but i dont really see why appart from he is in the anime more than a lot of the other cpatains >.< I mean people who like cats should go for konamaru, but should kids go for hitsu cause he's a kid (in relative terms)

ponsy
12-07-2005, 04:22 AM
try not to spam all over this topic if its going to be kept open 8-)

i see what is meant about hitsu, lots of people like him, but i dont really see why appart from he is in the anime more than a lot of the other cpatains >.< I mean people who like cats should go for konamaru, but should kids go for hitsu cause he's a kid (in relative terms)


Komamura isn't a cat...

sith29
12-10-2005, 04:22 PM
I like hitsaguya for no clear reason. Its normal that you like someone and dislike someone else. When I seen him for the first time i just thinked that he is cool. And later I just started to like him more and more. It has nothing with his strenght, look or character. He just generaly as a person appeal to me.

And in latest chapters of manga he is so funny:redbiggri.

thepolia
12-12-2005, 07:00 PM
And in latest chapters of manga he is so funny:redbiggri.

lol Hitsugaya's 'humour'... we find it funny because he's way too serious, so serious to the extreme that it turns out to be funny. I love 'I'm freaking hungry' XD

sith29
12-13-2005, 11:57 AM
lol but even better is :

Ichigo: Toushirou
Hitsugaya: Thats Captain Hitsugay to you

He realy is pissed when evryone is calling him by his first name:redbiggri

ketsya
12-13-2005, 10:35 PM
haha really i love those manga chapters when i first say hitsu and company coming to the earth i almost fell from my chair :LOL
and about why i like him, well as it has been said before he may not be the strongest nor the weakest, its just that the first time i saw him i though: oh he's so cool i love his hair! (later i discovered that i have a weakness against white-haired characters :redbiggri also i like his personality. when i started watching the anime i didnt knew a thing about bleach forums and i started to like hitsu without knowing that he already had a lot of fans, guess we cant decide about who/what we like and who/what we dont :rolleye09

Nood
12-13-2005, 10:53 PM
Does he has a female voice actor?
I dont like him cuz i dont like hes sound cuz he sounds like a women.

Injektilo
12-13-2005, 11:07 PM
He does have a female voice actor yeah, the same who voiced the Full Metal Alchemist Edward Elric.

Caesar
12-14-2005, 12:06 AM
thats damn right..
when i first saw him i was confused about his sex without hearing anything(i guess if i was hearing it would be more confusing)

hearing=volume 0

sith29
12-14-2005, 12:48 AM
When i first seen him inmanga i mistaken him with that Jinat boy from urahara shop:redbiggri. I thinked then "WTF". but few seconds later i realised that its new character. he looked cool and i stared to like him.

Jedi28
12-14-2005, 12:51 AM
I think the best Hitsugaya moment is this one:
when Hitsugaya is "suddenly" sitting on the windowsill acting all cool and mysterious and Renji says, "Captain Hitsugaya, did you climb up the wall all by yourself? That's kind of dangerous. Wait a minute, were you waiting for the window to be open? And who would believe an elementary kid with white hair anyways."
Hitsugaya: "You bastards. When we get back to Soul Society I'm gonna..."

lemoneko007
12-14-2005, 02:58 AM
lol hitsugaya does have load of fans, nearly half of my friends like him. i do like him too, no clear reason. maybe because his white hair? i mean his hair look so cool..^^ well, his strength doesn't really impress me, but being youngest captain means he carries lots of responsibilty in his age, and that makes me like him more..
dragons indeed are too common, but they are still interesting. it's bcoz they have such mystical power that are appealing..

thepolia
12-14-2005, 07:37 PM
I think the best Hitsugaya moment is this one:
when Hitsugaya is "suddenly" sitting on the windowsill acting all cool and mysterious and Renji says, "Captain Hitsugaya, did you climb up the wall all by yourself? That's kind of dangerous. Wait a minute, were you waiting for the window to be open? And who would believe an elementary kid with white hair anyways."
Hitsugaya: "You bastards. When we get back to Soul Society I'm gonna..."

LOL the new manga chapters are full of Hitsu's funny moments *cheers*

On his voice in anime: I think it's not an entirely 'female' voice... It sounds like a boy undergoing puberty, which I think suits him well. Imagine Hitsu with a voice like Byakuya's... that'd be horrifying

Demexor, are you still here?

Sir_unforgiven
12-14-2005, 08:55 PM
personally i don't find hitsugaya very interesting, he's got the whole cool genuis white hair boy thing going on, but gin pulls of the white hair much better. sure he has the most powerful ice/water sword but how many could there be? maybe his is one of the few, alot of the swords we've seen arn't even elemental based. generally i just find him annoying, and i think he is one of the weaker captains.

chakra25
12-14-2005, 09:07 PM
There is no reason to like or hate a character... afterall, it's just a matter of opinion. Hitsugaya's fan have every reason to like him.... nothing wrong with it.

Hitsugaya isn't my favorite... he's more of my third favorite. I think it's cool to have a "child prodigy" among the ranks of the Captains. He definitely has potential given his abilities at a young age. I can imagine how awesome he would be as time progresses. I also love his zanpakuto.

Caesar
12-14-2005, 10:19 PM
about hitsu i think the reason why everybody likes him is the first impresion.hes young and has a cool hair style with white hair........
although everybody is kinda special with his own style in bleach he still makes a pretty good impresion

SmallKid57
12-14-2005, 10:21 PM
lol he's overrated... but he's still cool

sith29
12-15-2005, 12:56 AM
Yeah he definitly is cool.

Thaliel
12-15-2005, 01:14 AM
He's a kid, a cute kid, everyone likes cute kids *pinches Hitsu's cheeks* XD

SmallKid57
12-15-2005, 01:59 AM
then how come ppl dont like me here!? lol is it b/c my shotgun?

well anywayz, hitsugaya is indeed overrated b/c he's youngest captain of the gotei 13. so ppl pay a lot of attention to him... he has that cool dragon, but dragons are common, and everyone likes them so alot of ppl are like HOLY CRAP THAT DUDES MY FAV. CHARACTER NOW!

thepolia
12-15-2005, 06:04 PM
then how come ppl dont like me here!? lol is it b/c my shotgun?

well anywayz, hitsugaya is indeed overrated b/c he's youngest captain of the gotei 13. so ppl pay a lot of attention to him... he has that cool dragon, but dragons are common, and everyone likes them so alot of ppl are like HOLY CRAP THAT DUDES MY FAV. CHARACTER NOW!

Yea I totally agree. And the way he's so desperate to protect someone (in this case, HInamori) is quite a common feature of a bishounen, right? I guess lots of girl fans fall for that... including me ^^""

I think there's definitely more girl Hitsu fans than guys...What do you think?

ashuran
12-15-2005, 07:47 PM
lol i loved seeing him get his ass handed to him by azien and in this new manga arc getting his ass owned again.

xyouxarexuglyx2
12-16-2005, 04:23 AM
IMO I don't think that Hitsugaya deserves to be all that popular... Sure he's got a cool zanpakutoh (I admit its probably the coolest I've seen so far!) and is what people describe a prodigy... "The reincarnation of a Heavenly Guardian that descends every century" All of that do count in making him all popular and stuff...But honestly, I think he's given much more respect than what he deserves...
First I think he's pretty immature... Sure he wears a cool front, but so do all captains, in battle you can see him being a bit impulsive... I mean look at his battle with Gin, he went on berserk! True it was because of Hinamori but still its was too overdone!In the manga he releases his bankai directly after knowing that Aizen was responsible behind the cope! Don't you think thats being a tad too impulsive?
Second, yes true he is the prodigy and the reincarnation of the heavenly guardian, but I mean he's weak for those terms... He's knocked out cold by Aizen before even attacking! Even Ichigo held up better than that!...
Now I'm not saying he's bad either... There are a lot of things that people see in him that make them like him, but they just don't seem enough for me... I think he's a good character but not the best out there...

Ok, I didnt read all 7 pages of this, but I will quote this post. You said he went berserk. HINAMORI LIVED WITH HIM. I mean, if you were a captain, and someone killed your sibling (they were basically siblings..) and if you don't like your siblings, your parents then. What if they decieved AND killed one of them, you would get pissed then.

Me: *kills someone close to you*
You: Eh...Ima just stay calm about it. Sure, I'm a bit mad, but I'm not going to use my bankai! Even though you are really powerful, I won't go any higher than my shikai.

Now.. what's there NOT to like about Hitsugaya? He has a cool zanpakutoh, is a cool looking character, he has to be pretty good for people about 2 feet taller than him (without him being a midget) calling him a genius and a prodigy, AND he managed to reach bankai AND become a captain, he would've OWNED Gin, he isn't a sadistic, bloodthirsty SOB that most people working on the "antagonist" side are, he has a pretty cool voice, has a cool tsuba on his zanpakutoh, has the strength to use a sword 5 inches shorter than him, AND he's a kid.

And what you said about Ichigo holding up against him better. Aizen used his shikai on Hitsugaya! All Aizen did on Ichigo was move his finger, and Ichigo lasted longer because he spent like... 15 minutes talking, AND he's the main character.

sith29
12-16-2005, 02:36 PM
Yea I totally agree. And the way he's so desperate to protect someone (in this case, HInamori) is quite a common feature of a bishounen, right? I guess lots of girl fans fall for that... including me ^^""

I think there's definitely more girl Hitsu fans than guys...What do you think?

I am guy and I like him. He just seems cool. I don't think ones sex have something with likeing someone or not likeing him

Yachiru_chan
12-16-2005, 02:43 PM
I'm a girl and I think he's overrated. I don't despise him, but he just isn't one of my favourite characters. I don't think he's nearly as cool as a lot of the other characters, but maybe that's just me. Still, its a personal opinion thing and I don't think that there are any stereotypes.

Qc0Jh1axT
12-16-2005, 03:06 PM
i think... he's likeable because he just has this aura, this potential of being able to achieve a lot. we haven't seen much of it yet, though. but it's evident that he has a high cool factor.

yachiru-chan:P
01-14-2006, 05:11 PM
well i like him and i admit he iz a bit overated but i still like him loads!!!

SLVR
01-14-2006, 06:12 PM
Why does everyone like Hitsugaya, I find him the worst (for use of a better word. overabundant) Captain...he talks way too grown up and has too much responsibility for his material personality. I think the contrasting on hitsugaya is just unjustified.

Can anyone care to justify the meaning of Hitsugaya? Ofcourse without flmaing me just because I disagree with something you like. If you can do that. then i'll happily continue discussing my reasons for disagreing with the character of 10th Division Captain Hitsugaya Toushiro.
I dont like him at all. give another character a his age and his stats you would hae many fans cause he is a kid.

Rabid_Wolverine
01-14-2006, 06:44 PM
I don't think he's over rated. He's a cool character. All will probably revealed later on and stuff. I mean I reckon there's been a lot of Hitsugaya is overrated topics recently. More than Hitsugaya is cool topics anyway.

Ryoko
01-14-2006, 07:54 PM
sorry if anyones said this...i didnt read over any pages cuz hitsu gets on my nerves. everyone likes him cuz he looks like a goku....plain and simple he has jagged hair that is a color noone else has. and he has that annoying voice of a screaming baby when hes like gonna attempt to fight. pple will be like omg hes so BA. and i guess girls like someone to protect them as well lol

SmallKid57
01-14-2006, 09:01 PM
hitsugaya IS overrated... but i still think he's a cool character... there are a lot of reasons y he's so liked and popular, here's some:

white/cool hair
young/short
dragon as shikai/ice zanpoukuto
protective
idk just secretive? idk... private... kinda..

Kazuya
01-14-2006, 09:12 PM
I don´t know it really but he has the only ice Zanpakutou or at least the most powerful...

Kyouka Suigetsu
01-14-2006, 09:20 PM
Come on, there's a simple reason Hyrounimaru is the most powerful ice zanpaku-to. It's the only one that has had its bankai unleashed. At least as far as we know it is. Once somebody else achieves a full release with an ice type then we can debate. That will never happen in the current Bleach story arc though...

SLVR
01-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Isane might.

Kyouka Suigetsu
01-14-2006, 09:34 PM
She can't do anything until she overcomes her fear of fishcake.

SmallKid57
01-14-2006, 09:58 PM
even though hitsugaya is overrated... but he is still pretty strong... sure he lost to aizen. but ur forgetting that hitsugaya woulda beat gin if hinamori wasn't there...

Cailous
01-14-2006, 10:13 PM
even though hitsugaya is overrated... but he is still pretty strong... sure he lost to aizen. but ur forgetting that hitsugaya woulda beat gin if hinamori wasn't there...

We can't be sure of that. Gin was OBVIOUSLY not giving his full, he looked relaxed, carefree and mocking. We also can't forget the fact that Aizen wanted Hinamori dead. Some may say Gin was trying to be cheap, but it might of been his mission to kill Hinamori.

The point is, too many people do the "He woulda won..." thing too often. Both weren't giving their all, especially Gin because he was just playing around, Hitsu was all angry even went shikai to beat Gin. There is no way we could know who would of won if Hinamori wasn't there. I just think it's not fair to Gin when people say he "got owned" when that clearly wasn't the case.

Kyouka Suigetsu
01-15-2006, 01:37 AM
Hitsugaya.....beating..........Gin? Hahahahaha, that is one of the most hilarious things I've ever heard. The 3rd Division Captain didn't even have enough respect to draw his sword when his battle with the "genius" started. It took some of his hair getting lopped off for him to even start using Shinsou. Not only that, but there was so many time he could've just used his shikai to impale the boy and it would've been over. The greatest example of this is when Hitsugaya was summoning Hyrounimaru, which Ichimaru didn't even need to release to take care of. He was floating in the air for like fifteen seconds while his enemy stood amused.

saycheese
01-23-2006, 03:14 PM
Hitsugaya.....beating..........Gin? Hahahahaha, that is one of the most hilarious things I've ever heard. The 3rd Division Captain didn't even have enough respect to draw his sword when his battle with the "genius" started. It took some of his hair getting lopped off for him to even start using Shinsou. Not only that, but there was so many time he could've just used his shikai to impale the boy and it would've been over. The greatest example of this is when Hitsugaya was summoning Hyrounimaru, which Ichimaru didn't even need to release to take care of. He was floating in the air for like fifteen seconds while his enemy stood amused.

quote ftw.

blove54
01-24-2006, 01:18 AM
hes looks the coolest, has the coolest-looking zanpakatou and bankai, but he is a little on the weak side, so the reason is jus strictly looks

ssjtrunkssgurl
01-24-2006, 01:22 AM
well hitsu... everyone loves him (well im speaking for my self here) because he is hot, very strong and even tho he is super little and young, he is strong and just plain cool... he is so cool i cant explain it... well i like him because there is something about him that draws me to him... i dunno... :S

mariksluva
01-24-2006, 01:32 AM
yes he is hot...but hes definatly over rated...theres so many better characters that are cooler...but he seems to get all the fanbase...its because hes young...i think...and all that prodigy...ppl just wanna look for something special...but yeah...it drives me crazy how immature and childish he gets around hinamori...he could be way better, but shes his achilles heel...long story short...hes cool, hot and young, but hes definatly not the best (take that from someone who does think hes pretty cool)

ssjtrunkssgurl
01-24-2006, 01:37 AM
well i have to disagree with you mariksluva... b/c i think he is cool... yes he is a bit overrated, but ppl like him because he is special. and how many captains can control ice... only him, for being so young and so strong he is cool... and loved because of it... yes he is pathetic around hinamori... but he is cool even with her being his weakness... i h8 her alot... b/c she is his weakness makes him alot like ichigo and everyone loves ichigo, and yet he isnt overrated... so yea...there

silverwolf801
01-24-2006, 01:44 AM
true true I agree with you 100%

Specter
01-24-2006, 01:56 AM
I personally don't like him the best. He's a different character, and his shikai and bankai are kinda cool, but I can't explain the reason he's got so many fans.

mariksluva
01-24-2006, 01:59 AM
He is cool, but im just saying hes over rated...he does have special abilities...like is power to control ice...but the reeeaaallllllyyyyy old guy controls fire...and no1 sez hes so cool...I love the fossils power more then Hitsu's but he doesnt have the same fan base...cuz of age...hes only so popular cuz hes achieved all that at a very young age, and ppl are fascinated by it... like i said...I like the guy alot...but he is over rated...at least i can admnit it...ssjtrunkssgurl...

Rmage
01-24-2006, 02:07 AM
People like to say that Hitsugaya is impulsive in battle, but the only times we've seen him fight so far are because Hinamori is somehow involved. I mean, how would you react if your best friend is being turned against you, adn later on, someone stabs her. Of course you're not going to think quite clearly. Other than that, it's not that he "acts" cool and mature, it's that he is. He was very perceptive in mistrusting Gin from the very beginning, when no other captain noticed. And Gin did not have the upper hand. Gin knows that Hinamori is probably Hitsugaya's greatest, and he exploited that. Had Hinamori not been there, Hitsugaya would have still dodged Gin's attack adn then retaliated.

I will honestly say that I did not like him at first, but the more I watched him, the more I grew to like him. He has very high morals and standards. He's always cautious and generally thinks before he acts. He is a prodigy and can stand up against a veteran like Gin. His zanpaku-to is definitely a plus. He's got that tough-guy, no humor attitude, but we all know that he's also go a softer side to him, which makes him more personable. He's just overall a really great character, which is why his fan-base is so big.

Mizu no Kokoro
01-24-2006, 02:11 AM
some great points ssjtrunkssgurl~^^ i love hitsugaya, and ichigo~ figured they have somewhat vaguely similar qualities, maybe thats why i liked them both so much~

ssjtrunkssgurl
01-24-2006, 02:13 AM
good... well now that u mention it the fossil does have a cool power, but because he is old no one likes, b/c he acheived it at a young age (hitsu) he is liked, i think he is also liked because out of all the characters he is te most weird/normal, the most strong/weak.... and so on and so forth, i mean he is a big contradiction... and that is y ppl love him so much, but for as manyppl that love him there is ppl who hate him... because he is a contradiction... but like i sed... bc. of his similarities to ichigo he is loved even more... well i cant say anything else cuz im gonna repeat myself over and over

Icestorm
01-24-2006, 02:38 AM
agree Rmage you hit it spot on

saycheese
01-24-2006, 07:34 AM
his very own thread eh, wonder whats next