Ai
05-31-2008, 09:45 PM
A simple practice of causing a situation in which an emo will cause complete and chaotic Internet e-drama by their inability to comprehend whats happening to them.
if you have such examples it would be nice to see them and to learn of your exploits.
And for those of you who think that i've lost my touch..Well :p
Before you read the following spoiler and IRC Log please read this thread and it will all become very clear to you..^^...
http://animevoid.com/forums/showthread.php?t=863
<zeroLOGIK> lol
<zeroLOGIK> Azure is gonna be lynched
> ?
<zeroLOGIK> Mafia Game
> ooo
<Lamb> i just have to write the post >_>
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> sorry for owning you so badly
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> rly
<Lamb> 10 is a majority of 19, which is how many people are currently playing ;)
<Lamb> so
<Lamb> you actually failed
<Lamb> Good day sir
> you said 20
> of which 11 is a majority
<Lamb> 20 was the original number
<Lamb> but
<Lamb> Tellmachine quit
<Lamb> so it's only out of 19
> still doesn't remove from my statement
> which is what you were arguing
> this is a forum game
> it isn't life and death
> if someone gets lynched then whoopdedo they're dead in the game
<Lamb> it's an rp though
<zeroluvsme> ai....who the hell is running the game?
> if we have to wait around again another week during a day phase people like me will walk away because you take too damn long
> lamb if its an rp put it in the rp
> you stated its a forum game
> in the randomness section of the forum
<Lamb> we don't have one
> where spam usually goes
<Lamb> secondly
<Lamb> it's a loose rp
<Lamb> thirdly
<Lamb> day phase length isn't made long by me
> if its an rp then we as characters can rp our characters correct?
<Lamb> in fact
<Lamb> this was probably the stupidest day phase I've ever seen
> because of your insistance that we get to at least 10-11 votes
> when out of everyone that had voted
> Azure had gotten the most votes
> or eureka
<Lamb> ok
> can't remmber
<Lamb> look at it this way
> BECAUSE ITS BEEN SO DAMN LONG
<Lamb> if I give it a time limit
> and yet you didn't want ot kill that person off yet
<Lamb> and no one votes except for one person
> if you give it a time limit then all of a sudden its like actual night and day
> :o
> then that one person has lynched someone
> congrats
> that person loses out
> it provides impetus for people to join in the game
<Lamb> That ruins the point of the game
> stay active
> and keep up to date
> as you have it at the moment
<Lamb> again
> if your a townie and you don't feel like voting for a week
<Lamb> Day Phase has no limit
> you can get away with it
> Lamb..put a time limit on the day phase
> it will make
> a) Running it easier
> b) for everyone else make the rules clearer
> c) Provide some push for people to stay involved
<Lamb> I didn't enforce my rule because of all the people only 4 people hadn't voted
> Then kick them out now
> and stick with the active people
<Lamb> no
<Lamb> of those 4 people
<Lamb> only 2 of them still haven't voted
<Lamb> and both are dead
<Lamb> so your point
<Lamb> is null
> lamb
> your ignorance right now is insulting my brain.
> its leaving
<Lamb> Ai, you're on my ignore list
> Cool
<Lamb> because you're retarded :]
<zeroLOGIK> lawl
> Lamb, your on my ignore list
> because you fail to keep an open mind
<zeroLOGIK> On to talk eh lambo
<Lamb> and I don't feel like dealing with your bullshit
<zeroLOGIK> one*
> my bullshit
> you've been stringing us along for about a week now with your bullshit
<Lamb> don't push your luck zero
> See lamb, even the random knows what i'm talking about
<zeroLOGIK> wai not?
> i'm not saying completely change your game
> but to put a sensible restricition on it so that others playing the game can actually play it
> instead of waiting around for lazy dicks who don't feel like it atm
<Lamb> not in the mood
<Lamb> listening to Ai does that to me ;]
<zeroLOGIK> Ai's point is quite valid
<Lamb> not really
> Lamb
> Do us a favour
> open your mind
> know that noone is always right
<Lamb> it's not my fault you guys are stupid as ****
<Lamb> and think you have something to go on
> and thats where I stop your game
<zeroluvsme> some of those lazy dicks had problems with their internet connection or had problems in the real world
> Lamb i have everything to go on
<Lamb> yeah
<zeroLOGIK> Then they shouldn't play
<Lamb> and they're both dead
<zeroluvsme> something that they couldn't help
> which is bad
<Lamb> they're dead now
> but if there was a time limit on the day phase
<Lamb> again
> then say in a few weeks another game would start
> and they could get back into it again
<zeroluvsme> how were they to know that it was gonna happen
> as it is at the moment they could get their internet connection cut off for a month and come back to the same day
<Lamb> 16 people is way more than enough to get a lynch vote
<Lamb> and the other 2 voted
<zeroLOGIK> It took a week or more to get all the votes needed to move on
<Lamb> so
<Lamb> ?
> Lamb
<zeroLOGIK> Then night is only about a day or two
> night phase gets restircted
> but day phase doesn
> t
<Lamb> because there is no posting at night
<Lamb> you realize
> between mafia members there is
<Lamb> the week
<Lamb> would have been nothign
<zeroluvsme> night phase shouldn't take that long
> what if a few of the mafia members are out of twon for the weekend
<Lamb> if you guys posted
> ?
> What if the mafia member who is in charge of pm'ing you the mafias vote is away for a few days
> suddenly the mafia are screwed?
<Lamb> I'll end the night phase if you all get your night jobs in
> Lamb
> At the moment i'm more inclined to quit the game until you can organise and run it better
<zeroLOGIK> Oi lamb, kill me off.
<zeroluvsme> that's why you need to communicate
<zeroLOGIK> I'm not gonna keep playing now
<Lamb> fine
<zeroLOGIK> I don't feel like waiting through another week long day
<Lamb> it's not a week long
<Lamb> if you guys make a decision
<Lamb> IT'S YOUR FAULT THE NIGHT PHASE TOOK SO LONG
<Lamb> NOT MINE
> ....>_>
<zeroluvsme> day phase
<Lamb> *Day phase
> Lamb..
> you are the runner of the game
> if something is taking ages then you need to have a way of stopping it and moving o0n
> instead of blaming the players of the game
> and ordering we sort it out
<zeroLOGIK> Evidence of a bad design
> Just because you want a magic number doesn't mean I will change my vote
<zeroluvsme> =/
> what if im the cop and i know that the person im voting for is a mafia member
<Lamb> the design is fine
> and your sitting there telling me that unless i change my vote we're gonna have to wait another week
> .
<zeroLOGIK> Stop with the ego shit, seriously the game isn't fine
<Lamb> what ego shit?
<zeroluvsme> >_>
> It isn't bad to admit that your current system is flawed
<zeroluvsme> <_<
<zeroluvsme> >.<
<Lamb> I've played the game in the exact same way before
> its a good sign that your taking peoples suggestions and ideas and critiques seriously and trying to make it a better game
> Lamb
<Lamb> and guess what
> Not all forums are the same
> what works on one forum won't work on another
<Lamb> people did what was logical in a no evidence situation
> Uh lamb
> there is always evidence
> for instance
<Lamb> they voted out who they personally disliked the most
> the mafia know who all the other mafia are
> they know who is innocent and who isn't
> They have evidence
> :|
<zeroluvsme> -_-
<zeroLOGIK> I changed my vote twice just to move to the next phase, no dislike anywhere
> see that.
<Lamb> you guys could have all voted for one person easily
<Lamb> yeah
> we could have lamb
<Lamb> which is a good move
> Did you jsut want to tell us which person you awnt us to vote for
> >
> ?
> I mean seriously
> cause thats what it seems like at the moment
<Lamb> I actually understand most of your playing styles
<Lamb> but the people who are saying "SO AND SO DID THIS IS SUSPICIOUS"
<Lamb> CHANGE VOTE: COMPLETELY RANDOM PERSON
<Lamb> I HAVE NO EVIDENCE, BUT I THINK I CAN GET THIS RIGHT
> uh lamb
> if they're mafia
> then they're playing the gam
> e
> and they have evidence
> DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
<Lamb> The first day is usually a quick kill
<Lamb> it's just foolish vote changing
> quick kill
<Lamb> that makes it impossible for the day to move on
> you mean long and drawn out for a week
> Azure knew he was going to die 6 days ago
<zeroLOGIK> Actually today makes eight days I think
> he could have written a will and made some money by now to leave to his children
> 8!
<Lamb> Again, if you really want to complain about length
<Lamb> nag the players
<Lamb> not me
<Lamb> zero: you still want to be dead?
<zeroLOGIK> No, I was just *****ing because I have no life and need to *****
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<zeroluvsme> lol
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<Lamb> fair nuff
<zeroLOGIK> Of course I want to be dead
<Lamb> fair nuff
<zeroLOGIK> have me die of cancer or some lame shit though
> lamb
> I am one of the players
> as the runner of the game you should be paying attention to what we're suggesting and telling you
* Mobius|DEATHTOALLBELKANS (Mobius@Rizon-706F850D.popsite.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
> not being "Thats the way it is suck it up cock face i'm always right"
* Mobius is now known as Mobius|DEATHTOALLBELKANS
> becuase that just makes you seem like an arrogant bastard unwilling to take criticismn
<Lamb> Ai....
<Lamb> that's the pot calling the kettle black
> yes mother
> Lamb
> I run nothing on animevoid
<Lamb> no
> I haven't recieved one criticismn from 18+ since the intial hiccup
> which has been resolved
> I listened to Azure and my sections people
> we came to an understanding
> 18+ is working fine at the moment
> unlike your game
> did you want anything mother?
<Lamb> but most of your opinions are that of someone who seems "like an arrogant bastard unwilling to take criticismn"
<Lamb> Ai, I don't respect the opinions of those who don't respect mine
> Lamb, the beauty about being a player in the game is that i'm not the one responsible for changing the system
> I'm supposed to tell you point blank what the **** i see wrong with it
> ^^
> you keep on thinking of me as the same stance as you at the moment, that I should be repsonsible for things
> I quote "<Lamb> Again, if you really want to complain about length
> <Lamb> nag the players
> See that
> why nag to us
> we can't change jack
<Lamb> you can
> if we have things happen that force us when we cant vote
<Lamb> you can get people to vote
> you want us to suddenly rush to the computer
> but say
<Lamb> look at it this way
<Lamb> look at it this way
> "IF YOU HAD A SYSTEM WHERE THERE WAS A TIME LIMIT AND THAT AT THE END OF THAT TIME LIMIT THE PERSON WITH THE MOST VOTES GOT LYNCHED"
> then there would be no problem
<zeroluvsme> >_>
* Mobius|DEATHTOALLBELKANS is now known as Mobius
<Lamb> it's not that hard to get a majority of people to vote for the same person :/
> Lamb
> a majority is the largest number out of the ones that are voted already
> which ironically enough we had a few days ago
> untill you decided that we needed to reach at least 10-11
> If there are 4 people that are away then suddenly the majority even by your argument decreases
> TO AMAZINGLY ENOUGH ABOUT 8
> WHICH WE HAD
> !
<Lamb> majority, also known as a majority is a subset of a group that is more than half of the entire group.
> lamb you said one person quit which is why you killed him
<zeroluvsme> if you read the first post it had "11 votes to lynch"
> early on this conversation you also said that about 4 people were busy with real life
<zeroluvsme> it wasn't just decide in the middle of the game
> by your own definition the majority decreases to about 8
> A suggestion to you personally
> Quit whilst your so far behind that it isn't becoming embaressing
> because it is
> right now
<Lamb> Ai
> yes mother
<Lamb> there isn't such a thing as abstention in the game
<Lamb> or abstences
> wait
> you mean when you said people were away for real life issues
<Lamb> as the game assumes people are all in the same place
> about 4 of thenm
> wouldn't that mean they couldn't vote
<Lamb> 2 of them were
> and wait if that rl issue was to say take a week
<zeroluvsme> ai...this is going no where. nothing is going change. just take it or leave it
> would that then mean that the rest of us who are more then 2
> Have to wait for those ****ing 2
<Lamb> 2 of them were just waiting to vote
> Lamb
<Lamb> no you don't
> so you made more then 10 of us wait
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> for 2 to come back
* |Ai| sets mode: +v zar
> congrats
<Lamb> not everyone has to vote
<zeroluvsme> ai: stop plz
<Lamb> you could have changed your vote at anytime
> so what if more then 10 people decide they don't want to vote
<Lamb> but instead YOU waited for people to do that for you
> do we then wait until a few months have passed when one of them wants to come back and vote so we can reach your magic number
> Lamb
> Ive already stated
> I vote for someone because I wanted to
<Lamb> if more then 10 people decide not to vote
> Im not going to change it because you want a magic number
<Lamb> I will pm them
> that would be the same as saying "Whatever lamb wants me to vote for i will
<Lamb> and ask them
> because then I will get his magic number
<Lamb> but we had well over 10 people
> you were forcing people to change their votes
> so you could get a magic number
<Lamb> no I wasn't
<Lamb> I didn't force anything'
> when of everyone who had voted we had already seen that more wanted a person lynched then the other
<zeroLOGIK> If we didn't the game would stay on day one
> Lamb
> I could kill your game right now
<Lamb> zero and AI
> yes mother
<Lamb> for what reason did you vote for the person you did?
<zeroLOGIK> To move the **** on
> Lamb I can't say that, that would be against the rules you stated at teh beginning of the game
> which unfortuently you haven't left up
> for people to refer to
> because you feel that it adds authenticity to the game
> but say if a day phase goes for more then a week
> then people forget about the game
> and the rules
<Lamb> for what reason did you vote for the person you did?
> Right
> Im killing your game
<Lamb> I won't penalize either of you in the game
> Im a mafia and i knew that they were a townie by ovting for them I wanted them lynched to keep the mafia alive longer
<zeroluvsme> LAMB ISN'T GONNA CHANGE THE GAME....TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!!!
> See that
> I had evidence
> I voted for a good damn reason
> See this
> Zero knows im a mafia now
> congrats
<Lamb> zero is already dead
<Lamb> he said so
> whats to stop him from telling others now
> hes dead
> hes out of the game
> hes no longer bound by the rules
<Lamb> nothing
> we're in irc
> people have logs
<Lamb> in fact if you do
> if one of the townies in here look back in their logs
<Lamb> it's ruining the game
> then they know who i am
<Lamb> and for wat?
> lamb
<zeroLOGIK> Lamb, your rules ruin the game
> it wouldnt be ruining the game
> it would be mercy killing
<Lamb> zero: they're not my rules....
> UH LAMB
> YOU RUN THE GAME
> YOU MAKE THE RULES OF THE GAME
<Lamb> they're the rules of those who made the game
> LAMB ARE THEY ON THIS FORUM?
<Lamb> no it's a pre-designed game
> ARE THEY RUNNING THIS GAME?
> Lamb..your stupidity and close minded attitude is truly astounding
<Lamb> no
<Lamb> ok Ai
<Lamb> let me ask you this
> yes mother
<Lamb> you know what nvm
<Lamb> since all you guys wanna do is dyke it out
> Lamb..
<Lamb> I'll close the game and won't start another
<Lamb> one
> or
> you could take the players suggestions
<Lamb> and you can ***** at me all you want
> modify the game YOUR running
> and live and learn
> instead of being a stubborn idiot
<Lamb> if you want to alter the game
<Lamb> go ahead
<Lamb> but the game isn't broke
> LAMB IM NOT THE ONE RUNNING THE GAME
> I CAN'T ALTER THE GAME
<Lamb> and neither am I anymore
<Lamb> honestly
> IT WOULD BE LIKE A ****ING RP PLAYER CHANGING THE STATS ON A CHARACTER SHEET IN A RP
> IT CAN'T BE ****ING DONE
> THE GM HAS TO DO IT
> HENCE YOU!
<Lamb> And I quit ;]
> lets see it then
<zeroLOGIK> This is a lamb sandwich. It is made of drama and self-importance.
> does it come with a side of ego?
<Lamb> zero, ai, thank you
<Lamb> for deciding that by not playing the game
> Zero
> I voted
<zeroLOGIK> Only on orders of extra-large
> EARLY'
> mind you
<Lamb> you have the right to dictate
<zeroLOGIK> I voted like third
<Lamb> there is more to the game then voting
> I even have participated by talking to fellow mafia members via pm
<zeroluvsme> you didn't talk to me
> You weren't on my important list
> mostly the don was
<Lamb> kyo is the don
<zeroLOGIK> lawl
> shhh
> don't tell him
<Lamb> too late
<Lamb> it's over
<Lamb> neither of you really participated in the thread
> Uh lamb..
<zeroLOGIK> so, you run away after intellectual checkmate?
> I voted early
<Lamb> zero, you have 2 posts in there I believe
<zeroLOGIK> Three
> I explained what i found wrong with what i saw with the game you were running
> I've suggested ways to get around the flaws i saw
<Lamb> Ai - Mafia (hitman)
<Lamb> Azure - Mafia(Traitor)
<Lamb> Dragonfly<3 - Nurse
<Lamb> Dreamy~ - Cop
<Lamb> Eureka - Serial Killer
<Lamb> Freshie - Mafia (rollblocker)
<Lamb> ferre_kun - Doctor
> I've explained what your position is in it
<Lamb> gallyrat - Vigilante
<Lamb> Jabman - Hider
<Lamb> Kiyo - Bodyguard
<Lamb> kyoluvsme4 - Mafia (Don)
<Lamb> kool_player - Cop
<Lamb> Lance Knight - Governor
<Lamb> Math - Reviver
<Lamb> Milu - Mason
> I've told you your close minded attitude
<Lamb> Mobius 1 - Mafia (Framer)
<Lamb> New Era - Mason
<Lamb> Skies - Mason
<Lamb> Tellmachine - Mason
> you refuse to listen to reason
<Lamb> zeroLOGIK - Mafia (Mafia Cop)
> your acting like a three year old
> instead of admitting you were wrong and trying to improve the game
> you instead close it
> and basically give us the finger
> the people who participated in teh game
> and basically gives it meaning
> do you even know of the word customer satisfaction?
<Lamb> Ai, am I getting paid to run this game?
> Lamb are we getting paid to play in it?
<Lamb> do I get anything from running this game?
> are we getting a prize?
<Lamb> you get the enjoyment of the game
> one would hope you get self satisfaction from providing entertainment ot others
<Lamb> which you missed out in the fact that you didn't play.
> Lamb
> i was playing the game
> I was suggesting to you things to improve on it
> i was voting in it
> Can you point out where the **** i wasn't playing in the game?
> oh wait
* zeroluvsme is now known as zeroluvsme|AWAY
> I WASNT DOING MY ****ING ROLe
> BUT WAIT
> I COULDN
> T
> CAUSE SOME IDIOT LET THE DAY PHASE GO ON FOR MORE THEN A WEEK
<Lamb> you voted once
<Lamb> and the rules have been up for a while
<Lamb> either way
<Lamb> I don
<Lamb> t
<Lamb> feel like dealing with this shit anymore
<Lamb> so bye
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> Uh whatdo ya know
> #1
<zeroLOGIK> epic lulz
> Can't take the presure get the **** out of the irc chan
> :]
<zeroLOGIK> I wonder if this belongs in the IRC FC
What are your thoughts on this matter? who do you think was right?
if you have such examples it would be nice to see them and to learn of your exploits.
And for those of you who think that i've lost my touch..Well :p
Before you read the following spoiler and IRC Log please read this thread and it will all become very clear to you..^^...
http://animevoid.com/forums/showthread.php?t=863
<zeroLOGIK> lol
<zeroLOGIK> Azure is gonna be lynched
> ?
<zeroLOGIK> Mafia Game
> ooo
<Lamb> i just have to write the post >_>
* |Ai| pats lamb
> sorry for owning you so badly
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> rly
<Lamb> 10 is a majority of 19, which is how many people are currently playing ;)
<Lamb> so
<Lamb> you actually failed
<Lamb> Good day sir
> you said 20
> of which 11 is a majority
<Lamb> 20 was the original number
<Lamb> but
<Lamb> Tellmachine quit
<Lamb> so it's only out of 19
> still doesn't remove from my statement
> which is what you were arguing
> this is a forum game
> it isn't life and death
> if someone gets lynched then whoopdedo they're dead in the game
<Lamb> it's an rp though
<zeroluvsme> ai....who the hell is running the game?
> if we have to wait around again another week during a day phase people like me will walk away because you take too damn long
> lamb if its an rp put it in the rp
> you stated its a forum game
> in the randomness section of the forum
<Lamb> we don't have one
> where spam usually goes
<Lamb> secondly
<Lamb> it's a loose rp
<Lamb> thirdly
<Lamb> day phase length isn't made long by me
> if its an rp then we as characters can rp our characters correct?
<Lamb> in fact
<Lamb> this was probably the stupidest day phase I've ever seen
> because of your insistance that we get to at least 10-11 votes
> when out of everyone that had voted
> Azure had gotten the most votes
> or eureka
<Lamb> ok
> can't remmber
<Lamb> look at it this way
> BECAUSE ITS BEEN SO DAMN LONG
<Lamb> if I give it a time limit
> and yet you didn't want ot kill that person off yet
<Lamb> and no one votes except for one person
> if you give it a time limit then all of a sudden its like actual night and day
> :o
> then that one person has lynched someone
> congrats
> that person loses out
> it provides impetus for people to join in the game
<Lamb> That ruins the point of the game
> stay active
> and keep up to date
> as you have it at the moment
<Lamb> again
> if your a townie and you don't feel like voting for a week
<Lamb> Day Phase has no limit
> you can get away with it
> Lamb..put a time limit on the day phase
> it will make
> a) Running it easier
> b) for everyone else make the rules clearer
> c) Provide some push for people to stay involved
<Lamb> I didn't enforce my rule because of all the people only 4 people hadn't voted
> Then kick them out now
> and stick with the active people
<Lamb> no
<Lamb> of those 4 people
<Lamb> only 2 of them still haven't voted
<Lamb> and both are dead
<Lamb> so your point
<Lamb> is null
> lamb
> your ignorance right now is insulting my brain.
> its leaving
<Lamb> Ai, you're on my ignore list
> Cool
<Lamb> because you're retarded :]
<zeroLOGIK> lawl
> Lamb, your on my ignore list
> because you fail to keep an open mind
<zeroLOGIK> On to talk eh lambo
<Lamb> and I don't feel like dealing with your bullshit
<zeroLOGIK> one*
> my bullshit
> you've been stringing us along for about a week now with your bullshit
<Lamb> don't push your luck zero
> See lamb, even the random knows what i'm talking about
<zeroLOGIK> wai not?
> i'm not saying completely change your game
> but to put a sensible restricition on it so that others playing the game can actually play it
> instead of waiting around for lazy dicks who don't feel like it atm
<Lamb> not in the mood
<Lamb> listening to Ai does that to me ;]
<zeroLOGIK> Ai's point is quite valid
<Lamb> not really
> Lamb
> Do us a favour
> open your mind
> know that noone is always right
<Lamb> it's not my fault you guys are stupid as ****
<Lamb> and think you have something to go on
> and thats where I stop your game
<zeroluvsme> some of those lazy dicks had problems with their internet connection or had problems in the real world
> Lamb i have everything to go on
<Lamb> yeah
<zeroLOGIK> Then they shouldn't play
<Lamb> and they're both dead
<zeroluvsme> something that they couldn't help
> which is bad
<Lamb> they're dead now
> but if there was a time limit on the day phase
<Lamb> again
> then say in a few weeks another game would start
> and they could get back into it again
<zeroluvsme> how were they to know that it was gonna happen
> as it is at the moment they could get their internet connection cut off for a month and come back to the same day
<Lamb> 16 people is way more than enough to get a lynch vote
<Lamb> and the other 2 voted
<zeroLOGIK> It took a week or more to get all the votes needed to move on
<Lamb> so
<Lamb> ?
> Lamb
<zeroLOGIK> Then night is only about a day or two
> night phase gets restircted
> but day phase doesn
> t
<Lamb> because there is no posting at night
<Lamb> you realize
> between mafia members there is
<Lamb> the week
<Lamb> would have been nothign
<zeroluvsme> night phase shouldn't take that long
> what if a few of the mafia members are out of twon for the weekend
<Lamb> if you guys posted
> ?
> What if the mafia member who is in charge of pm'ing you the mafias vote is away for a few days
> suddenly the mafia are screwed?
<Lamb> I'll end the night phase if you all get your night jobs in
> Lamb
> At the moment i'm more inclined to quit the game until you can organise and run it better
<zeroLOGIK> Oi lamb, kill me off.
<zeroluvsme> that's why you need to communicate
<zeroLOGIK> I'm not gonna keep playing now
<Lamb> fine
<zeroLOGIK> I don't feel like waiting through another week long day
<Lamb> it's not a week long
<Lamb> if you guys make a decision
<Lamb> IT'S YOUR FAULT THE NIGHT PHASE TOOK SO LONG
<Lamb> NOT MINE
> ....>_>
<zeroluvsme> day phase
<Lamb> *Day phase
> Lamb..
> you are the runner of the game
> if something is taking ages then you need to have a way of stopping it and moving o0n
> instead of blaming the players of the game
> and ordering we sort it out
<zeroLOGIK> Evidence of a bad design
> Just because you want a magic number doesn't mean I will change my vote
<zeroluvsme> =/
> what if im the cop and i know that the person im voting for is a mafia member
<Lamb> the design is fine
> and your sitting there telling me that unless i change my vote we're gonna have to wait another week
> .
<zeroLOGIK> Stop with the ego shit, seriously the game isn't fine
<Lamb> what ego shit?
<zeroluvsme> >_>
> It isn't bad to admit that your current system is flawed
<zeroluvsme> <_<
<zeroluvsme> >.<
<Lamb> I've played the game in the exact same way before
> its a good sign that your taking peoples suggestions and ideas and critiques seriously and trying to make it a better game
> Lamb
<Lamb> and guess what
> Not all forums are the same
> what works on one forum won't work on another
<Lamb> people did what was logical in a no evidence situation
> Uh lamb
> there is always evidence
> for instance
<Lamb> they voted out who they personally disliked the most
> the mafia know who all the other mafia are
> they know who is innocent and who isn't
> They have evidence
> :|
<zeroluvsme> -_-
<zeroLOGIK> I changed my vote twice just to move to the next phase, no dislike anywhere
> see that.
<Lamb> you guys could have all voted for one person easily
<Lamb> yeah
> we could have lamb
<Lamb> which is a good move
> Did you jsut want to tell us which person you awnt us to vote for
> >
> ?
> I mean seriously
> cause thats what it seems like at the moment
<Lamb> I actually understand most of your playing styles
<Lamb> but the people who are saying "SO AND SO DID THIS IS SUSPICIOUS"
<Lamb> CHANGE VOTE: COMPLETELY RANDOM PERSON
<Lamb> I HAVE NO EVIDENCE, BUT I THINK I CAN GET THIS RIGHT
> uh lamb
> if they're mafia
> then they're playing the gam
> e
> and they have evidence
> DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
<Lamb> The first day is usually a quick kill
<Lamb> it's just foolish vote changing
> quick kill
<Lamb> that makes it impossible for the day to move on
> you mean long and drawn out for a week
> Azure knew he was going to die 6 days ago
<zeroLOGIK> Actually today makes eight days I think
> he could have written a will and made some money by now to leave to his children
> 8!
<Lamb> Again, if you really want to complain about length
<Lamb> nag the players
<Lamb> not me
<Lamb> zero: you still want to be dead?
<zeroLOGIK> No, I was just *****ing because I have no life and need to *****
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<zeroluvsme> lol
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<Lamb> fair nuff
<zeroLOGIK> Of course I want to be dead
<Lamb> fair nuff
<zeroLOGIK> have me die of cancer or some lame shit though
> lamb
> I am one of the players
> as the runner of the game you should be paying attention to what we're suggesting and telling you
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> not being "Thats the way it is suck it up cock face i'm always right"
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> becuase that just makes you seem like an arrogant bastard unwilling to take criticismn
<Lamb> Ai....
<Lamb> that's the pot calling the kettle black
> yes mother
> Lamb
> I run nothing on animevoid
<Lamb> no
> I haven't recieved one criticismn from 18+ since the intial hiccup
> which has been resolved
> I listened to Azure and my sections people
> we came to an understanding
> 18+ is working fine at the moment
> unlike your game
> did you want anything mother?
<Lamb> but most of your opinions are that of someone who seems "like an arrogant bastard unwilling to take criticismn"
<Lamb> Ai, I don't respect the opinions of those who don't respect mine
> Lamb, the beauty about being a player in the game is that i'm not the one responsible for changing the system
> I'm supposed to tell you point blank what the **** i see wrong with it
> ^^
> you keep on thinking of me as the same stance as you at the moment, that I should be repsonsible for things
> I quote "<Lamb> Again, if you really want to complain about length
> <Lamb> nag the players
> See that
> why nag to us
> we can't change jack
<Lamb> you can
> if we have things happen that force us when we cant vote
<Lamb> you can get people to vote
> you want us to suddenly rush to the computer
> but say
<Lamb> look at it this way
<Lamb> look at it this way
> "IF YOU HAD A SYSTEM WHERE THERE WAS A TIME LIMIT AND THAT AT THE END OF THAT TIME LIMIT THE PERSON WITH THE MOST VOTES GOT LYNCHED"
> then there would be no problem
<zeroluvsme> >_>
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<Lamb> it's not that hard to get a majority of people to vote for the same person :/
> Lamb
> a majority is the largest number out of the ones that are voted already
> which ironically enough we had a few days ago
> untill you decided that we needed to reach at least 10-11
> If there are 4 people that are away then suddenly the majority even by your argument decreases
> TO AMAZINGLY ENOUGH ABOUT 8
> WHICH WE HAD
> !
<Lamb> majority, also known as a majority is a subset of a group that is more than half of the entire group.
> lamb you said one person quit which is why you killed him
<zeroluvsme> if you read the first post it had "11 votes to lynch"
> early on this conversation you also said that about 4 people were busy with real life
<zeroluvsme> it wasn't just decide in the middle of the game
> by your own definition the majority decreases to about 8
> A suggestion to you personally
> Quit whilst your so far behind that it isn't becoming embaressing
> because it is
> right now
<Lamb> Ai
> yes mother
<Lamb> there isn't such a thing as abstention in the game
<Lamb> or abstences
> wait
> you mean when you said people were away for real life issues
<Lamb> as the game assumes people are all in the same place
> about 4 of thenm
> wouldn't that mean they couldn't vote
<Lamb> 2 of them were
> and wait if that rl issue was to say take a week
<zeroluvsme> ai...this is going no where. nothing is going change. just take it or leave it
> would that then mean that the rest of us who are more then 2
> Have to wait for those ****ing 2
<Lamb> 2 of them were just waiting to vote
> Lamb
<Lamb> no you don't
> so you made more then 10 of us wait
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> for 2 to come back
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> congrats
<Lamb> not everyone has to vote
<zeroluvsme> ai: stop plz
<Lamb> you could have changed your vote at anytime
> so what if more then 10 people decide they don't want to vote
<Lamb> but instead YOU waited for people to do that for you
> do we then wait until a few months have passed when one of them wants to come back and vote so we can reach your magic number
> Lamb
> Ive already stated
> I vote for someone because I wanted to
<Lamb> if more then 10 people decide not to vote
> Im not going to change it because you want a magic number
<Lamb> I will pm them
> that would be the same as saying "Whatever lamb wants me to vote for i will
<Lamb> and ask them
> because then I will get his magic number
<Lamb> but we had well over 10 people
> you were forcing people to change their votes
> so you could get a magic number
<Lamb> no I wasn't
<Lamb> I didn't force anything'
> when of everyone who had voted we had already seen that more wanted a person lynched then the other
<zeroLOGIK> If we didn't the game would stay on day one
> Lamb
> I could kill your game right now
<Lamb> zero and AI
> yes mother
<Lamb> for what reason did you vote for the person you did?
<zeroLOGIK> To move the **** on
> Lamb I can't say that, that would be against the rules you stated at teh beginning of the game
> which unfortuently you haven't left up
> for people to refer to
> because you feel that it adds authenticity to the game
> but say if a day phase goes for more then a week
> then people forget about the game
> and the rules
<Lamb> for what reason did you vote for the person you did?
> Right
> Im killing your game
<Lamb> I won't penalize either of you in the game
> Im a mafia and i knew that they were a townie by ovting for them I wanted them lynched to keep the mafia alive longer
<zeroluvsme> LAMB ISN'T GONNA CHANGE THE GAME....TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!!!
> See that
> I had evidence
> I voted for a good damn reason
> See this
> Zero knows im a mafia now
> congrats
<Lamb> zero is already dead
<Lamb> he said so
> whats to stop him from telling others now
> hes dead
> hes out of the game
> hes no longer bound by the rules
<Lamb> nothing
> we're in irc
> people have logs
<Lamb> in fact if you do
> if one of the townies in here look back in their logs
<Lamb> it's ruining the game
> then they know who i am
<Lamb> and for wat?
> lamb
<zeroLOGIK> Lamb, your rules ruin the game
> it wouldnt be ruining the game
> it would be mercy killing
<Lamb> zero: they're not my rules....
> UH LAMB
> YOU RUN THE GAME
> YOU MAKE THE RULES OF THE GAME
<Lamb> they're the rules of those who made the game
> LAMB ARE THEY ON THIS FORUM?
<Lamb> no it's a pre-designed game
> ARE THEY RUNNING THIS GAME?
> Lamb..your stupidity and close minded attitude is truly astounding
<Lamb> no
<Lamb> ok Ai
<Lamb> let me ask you this
> yes mother
<Lamb> you know what nvm
<Lamb> since all you guys wanna do is dyke it out
> Lamb..
<Lamb> I'll close the game and won't start another
<Lamb> one
> or
> you could take the players suggestions
<Lamb> and you can ***** at me all you want
> modify the game YOUR running
> and live and learn
> instead of being a stubborn idiot
<Lamb> if you want to alter the game
<Lamb> go ahead
<Lamb> but the game isn't broke
> LAMB IM NOT THE ONE RUNNING THE GAME
> I CAN'T ALTER THE GAME
<Lamb> and neither am I anymore
<Lamb> honestly
> IT WOULD BE LIKE A ****ING RP PLAYER CHANGING THE STATS ON A CHARACTER SHEET IN A RP
> IT CAN'T BE ****ING DONE
> THE GM HAS TO DO IT
> HENCE YOU!
<Lamb> And I quit ;]
> lets see it then
<zeroLOGIK> This is a lamb sandwich. It is made of drama and self-importance.
> does it come with a side of ego?
<Lamb> zero, ai, thank you
<Lamb> for deciding that by not playing the game
> Zero
> I voted
<zeroLOGIK> Only on orders of extra-large
> EARLY'
> mind you
<Lamb> you have the right to dictate
<zeroLOGIK> I voted like third
<Lamb> there is more to the game then voting
> I even have participated by talking to fellow mafia members via pm
<zeroluvsme> you didn't talk to me
> You weren't on my important list
> mostly the don was
<Lamb> kyo is the don
<zeroLOGIK> lawl
> shhh
> don't tell him
<Lamb> too late
<Lamb> it's over
<Lamb> neither of you really participated in the thread
> Uh lamb..
<zeroLOGIK> so, you run away after intellectual checkmate?
> I voted early
<Lamb> zero, you have 2 posts in there I believe
<zeroLOGIK> Three
> I explained what i found wrong with what i saw with the game you were running
> I've suggested ways to get around the flaws i saw
<Lamb> Ai - Mafia (hitman)
<Lamb> Azure - Mafia(Traitor)
<Lamb> Dragonfly<3 - Nurse
<Lamb> Dreamy~ - Cop
<Lamb> Eureka - Serial Killer
<Lamb> Freshie - Mafia (rollblocker)
<Lamb> ferre_kun - Doctor
> I've explained what your position is in it
<Lamb> gallyrat - Vigilante
<Lamb> Jabman - Hider
<Lamb> Kiyo - Bodyguard
<Lamb> kyoluvsme4 - Mafia (Don)
<Lamb> kool_player - Cop
<Lamb> Lance Knight - Governor
<Lamb> Math - Reviver
<Lamb> Milu - Mason
> I've told you your close minded attitude
<Lamb> Mobius 1 - Mafia (Framer)
<Lamb> New Era - Mason
<Lamb> Skies - Mason
<Lamb> Tellmachine - Mason
> you refuse to listen to reason
<Lamb> zeroLOGIK - Mafia (Mafia Cop)
> your acting like a three year old
> instead of admitting you were wrong and trying to improve the game
> you instead close it
> and basically give us the finger
> the people who participated in teh game
> and basically gives it meaning
> do you even know of the word customer satisfaction?
<Lamb> Ai, am I getting paid to run this game?
> Lamb are we getting paid to play in it?
<Lamb> do I get anything from running this game?
> are we getting a prize?
<Lamb> you get the enjoyment of the game
> one would hope you get self satisfaction from providing entertainment ot others
<Lamb> which you missed out in the fact that you didn't play.
> Lamb
> i was playing the game
> I was suggesting to you things to improve on it
> i was voting in it
> Can you point out where the **** i wasn't playing in the game?
> oh wait
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> I WASNT DOING MY ****ING ROLe
> BUT WAIT
> I COULDN
> T
> CAUSE SOME IDIOT LET THE DAY PHASE GO ON FOR MORE THEN A WEEK
<Lamb> you voted once
<Lamb> and the rules have been up for a while
<Lamb> either way
<Lamb> I don
<Lamb> t
<Lamb> feel like dealing with this shit anymore
<Lamb> so bye
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> Uh whatdo ya know
> #1
<zeroLOGIK> epic lulz
> Can't take the presure get the **** out of the irc chan
> :]
<zeroLOGIK> I wonder if this belongs in the IRC FC
What are your thoughts on this matter? who do you think was right?