Obama Wins Democratic Presidential Nominee

[ghey b]

What are your feelings on this Historical Accomplishment?

Barack Obama is the first African American Presidential Nominee ever in the United States!

I for one am quite happy for Barack and I am excited to see the upcoming showdown between him and McCain :)

[FullMetal Rebel]

I hope Obama goes all the way, if he loses in November. We're in for a draft and WWIII.

Hopefully Hiliary and Obama can get along now that this is done.

[Addiction]

Hilary already agreed that if Barack wants to go that way, she will gladly take the VP.

I think Barack as president was a good idea. McCain will just **** up the country to a point of no return.

With McCain as president, it's only a short matter of time til we're in a resetion and are country/economy are ****ed.

Go Barack ^^

[Vampyrelord]

McCain has impressed me, but the day I vote for a Republican is the day I hang myself with piano wire.

Hillary hasn't given up yet but hopefully she will soon give in and accept VP: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7434791.stm

The "Dream Ticket" could either be unstoppable, or rip itself apart again. Obama needs her support though.

[Xkavanger]

Even though I'm not in the US, nor am I a citizen, I am 100% ecstatic for him.

I've been following the presidential primaries for such a long time now, and am now glad to see Obama win it. :D

I'm so excited to see what happens next, and I'd so vote for him if I could. x)

Edit: And its about time!

asdfghjkl.... I'm too excited. xD

Edit 2: It's spelled as "nominee". :P

[Ai]

Banzai..The barack will win the election and lead america into a new future.

LETS CHANGE THE FUTURE!

[Seff vi Britannia]

Erm, Obama won quite a while ago. Hilary just kept clinging on.

[silverwolf801]

YEA that what I am F%^%&^&* talking about. I knew he would beat her. Now for father time

[Rorschach]

Congrats to Obama.

We're in for a draft and WWIII.
lol, I don't think you have to worry about that if McCain wins.

As I see it, if Hillary isn't his running mate he's gonna have trouble in the states she won (particularly Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida).

If Bob Barr is on enough ballots, he's gonna create a lot of problems for McCain.

[Addiction]

Hillary hasn't given up yet but hopefully she will soon give in and accept VP

Last I hear Hillary already said that if Barak wants to go that way, she will gladly accept the VP..

It's all up to Barak right now.

[Kazmiz]

So there IS a God!

I honestly thought Clinton would win, though not because I thought she was the better candidate. I simply came to expect the worse:P

I wonder how Obama's going to fair against McCain.

[Xkavanger]

Rofl... I keep thinking Bob Carr is in the Australian Parliament... we have a Carr too. xD

]Yeah.. seems pretty likely. But Hilary tards said they'd vote for republic if she wasn't made his Vice.

DO YOU REALISE HOW LARGE THE NUMBERS ARE?

D:

Obama may JUST win by a close call. >_>

/me hyperventilates

Edit: OH! AND!

Obama wanted to have a meeting with Hilary... this may look bad.

THEY CANNOT WORK TOGETHER@

NAH-UH... NO WAY! D:

[Rorschach]

Bob Carr? It's Bob Barr.

If he's on enough of the states, it could spell trouble for McCain... as he isn't real popular among the repubs (although it could just be the conservative pundits complaining that they didn't get their Reagan).

Either way I don't see Obama getting a majority of the popular vote (50%)


I wonder how Obama's going to fair against McCain.
McCain in a Landslide if Hillary doesn't support obama or if they're on the same ticket but it turns out horrible

McCain wins close

Obama wins that makes the election of 1880 look like a landslide

[Decado]

Kav - Take it easy there...

It could be beneficial for them to work together, at least for him to gain her voter's votes. It would also make more history. Anyway, she hasn't exactly said she will, but that she's open to it.

McCain in a Landslide if Hillary doesn't support obama
Yeah, this is what I'm wary of.. It's actually a good but tardy method by the Hilary followers to say what they did - so she at least retains some power...

[RogueofRogues]

WOOT WOOT WOOT! Obama or clinton, doesnt really matter as long as a democrat wins. Sick of the Republican platform and the righteous fury they PRETEND to extend to America, hell, i am pretty sure most americans are sick of it too. So ready for Iraq war to be over and bring those young people home! it was a war built on the fact he wanted to finish his fathers work and GREEED for oil, we are NOT the worlds police, not until we can fix everything in our own backyard, should we even contemplate helping others. we have too much work to do here at home before we can move on.

I dont mind giving aid to countires who need it, but policing the world is NOT our job.

[ghey b]

McCain in a Landslide if Hillary doesn't support Obama or if they're on the same ticket but it turns out horrible



well the thing is, im sure that Hillary will give in and give her full support to Obama for 1 main reason. Its in the party's best interest. If she doesnt give Obama her support, the team that their playing for loses...

like 50% of her followers said they would vote for McCain if she lost

now i don't know about you, but that sounds both extremely racist and extremely hypocritical... I mean to say if this democrat doesn't win, forget the other democrat, well just go back to republicans? what kind of tru democrat would say that?

-.-

[Rorschach]

Reagan Democrats? Blue Dog democrats?
Not all Dems share the same values as Obama

[Kamina]

They were basically rivals, I think its more of a pride issue than one of race. All of the Hillary supporters I know are basically huge dedicated supporters, and basically found so much information about Obama that they didnt like that they would never vote for him. Race aside, they just seemed to disagree with his viewpoints. To be consistent with their stance, they wouldnt go and vote for a guy they were strongly opposed to not too long ago.

To be honest, McCain might have the advantage here. The democrats are basically split down the middle, whereas the majority of republicans are for McCain.

[ghey b]

yea but seriously

democrat is democrat

there may be varying degree's, but i would never vote for McCain. I mean the biggest thing democrat's have going for them is pulling out of the war(and this has been proven with the overwhelming decreasing numbers of support for bush and this war)

I'm voting for Obama because hes doing that, and is putting our environment first hand and working on Green Solutions. Hillary doesnt seem to care to much for this issue, which is why i dont side with her

BUT, if hillary had won I would still vote for her because she wants to pull out of the war and has general democratic views, where as the republicans are still for the war, still trying to get oil, still favoring the wealthy.. blah blah blah =/

idk i just thought (majority of) democrats would vote for a democrat over a republican any day

[Kamina]

You just may not be a typical Hillary/Obama fan. The majority of them seem to be very loyal and basically opposed to the other, so I dont see voting for the opposite party to be an outlandish move. I agree with your view, but its just not the case in this election.

[Rorschach]

To be honest, McCain might have the advantage here. The democrats are basically split down the middle, whereas the majority of republicans are for McCain.
No, many republicans are displeased with McCain. Many are such perfectionist for their candidate it's saddening (basically another Reagan, who was Ron Paul >_>).

Either way I'm not voting for either as I see Obama as another McGovern and big gov't shrill (me no likey big government) and McCain as umm, well I don't like him :awe:

voting 3rd party :awe:

[Kray]

Only one thing can express how I feel about Obama...


:Domo

[Kamina]

Well, what im getting at is that their is only 1 big republican candidate, and that is McCain. The Democrats are split down the middle this time, and maybe being a slightly larger population than the republicans at this point in time, seem to maybe have less supporters per candidate than the democrats. This is just speculation however.

[Rorschach]

Well, the election isn't for some time, so we shall see... *wonders who McCain will select as a running mate*

J.B.: Well by that you'd vote for Lieberman if he were the democratic Nominee instead of say Ron Paul?

[RogueofRogues]

yea but seriously

democrat is democrat

there may be varying degree's, but i would never vote for McCain. I mean the biggest thing democrat's have going for them is pulling out of the war(and this has been proven with the overwhelming decreasing numbers of support for bush and this war)

I'm voting for Obama because hes doing that, and is putting our environment first hand and working on Green Solutions. Hillary doesnt seem to care to much for this issue, which is why i dont side with her

BUT, if hillary had won I would still vote for her because she wants to pull out of the war and has general democratic views, where as the republicans are still for the war, still trying to get oil, still favoring the wealthy.. blah blah blah =/

idk i just thought (majority of) democrats would vote for a democrat over a republican any day

MrKilla is completely right, at least how i se eit and how many of my fellow dems feel. we will vote for the nominee PERIOD. be it Obama, or Clinton.

[ghey b]

J.B.: Well by that you'd vote for Lieberman if he were the democratic Nominee instead of say Ron Paul?

if the democrats nominated lieberman as their representative, and he became the presidential nominee, then yes, i would vote for him.

When i signed up for a party when i got my drivers license, they didnt give me a form that had 5 different democratic choices and 5 diff republican choices. it was democrat or republican.

[Takeshi]

McCain's too old, he'll die suddenly once (IF) he gets into office with a heart attack.

[Rorschach]

You do know that Lieberman is one of the biggest proponents of the GWoT and the Patriot act :confused:

McCain's too old, he'll die suddenly once (IF) he gets into office with a heart attack.
So, he meets the constitutional requirements, so his age should have nothing to do with it

[Neko Rae]

McCain's too old, he'll die suddenly once (IF) he gets into office with a heart attack.

what would happen if he did win and then he died?

[ghey b]

You do know that Lieberman is one of the biggest proponents of the GWoT and the Patriot act :confused:

which is exactly why i said, IF the democrats actually chose him to be their primary candidate (which i dont see happening because of a few things, definitely including what you just mentioned ). and yes i know he was waaaay back in 2000, but this is now :p


what would happen if he did win and then he died?
i assume his VP would take over lol :3

[Nicole]

Haha. Congrats to Obama.

I'm not voting this election, anyway. But congrats, he deserves it. :)

[Rorschach]

what would happen if he did win and then he died?
Read the 25th amendment of the United States Constitution (basically whoever McCain's VP is would become president) :rolleye09

[KholdStare]

Read the 25th amendment of the United States Constitution (basically whoever McCain's VP is would become president) :rolleye09

Hey, hey, don't roll your eyes... and technically Article II Section I describe what should be done if the president were to die.

On another note, I got to see Obama when he came to my college! (even though it was when he was a senator :p)

[Guy]

Better Obama than Hilary.

Tbh, though, I'm not impressed with either McCain or Obama. Obama's "change" speech doesn't fool me at all. Change for the better, or for the worse? Why is he being so equivocal in his speeches?

But w/e, at least the WORST candidate (Hilary) is out, so I guess that's good news. Now I don't care who wins, for I think both McCain and Obama have lousy potentials.

[Rorschach]

Hey, hey, don't roll your eyes... and technically Article II Section I describe what should be done if the president were to die.

Well Tyler set the precedent when Harrison died. There was debate that the VP would hold it until a new election was called. You have to remember that the office of VP was seen as worthless for a while.

[Tamoka]

Good, I like Obama more then Hillary Clinton. Also he seems more moderate then Bush, which is good for America I think. Bush has an air of cockiness around him, thinking America should police the world.

Thats what I feel from seeing him on television anyway. Correct me if Im wrong, since we dont get THAT much news from Bush over here. =)

[Kenshin0o8]

Obama all the way, but how the hell can you compare a stupid blond like Hillary with Obama.

[Reyin]

Better Obama than Hilary.

Tbh, though, I'm not impressed with either McCain or Obama. Obama's "change" speech doesn't fool me at all. Change for the better, or for the worse? Why is he being so equivocal in his speeches?

QFT

As someone who actually looks at voting records of potential candidates. The first thing I noticed with Obama is discrepancies between what he claims to support, and what he's actually voted. The biggest issue I have with him is that he portrays himself as a moderate, but looking at his past votes, he's not even close, in fact, one would be hard pressed to find a candidate more on the left end of the spectrum than he is short of Ralph Nader. It just seems rather odd in a time where the moderate vote is growing, and the democratic party in general is going for a more centrist strategy.

As for McCain, I'm not really impressed with him either, his political career is rather lackluster as far as I'm concerned. His "achievements" aren't really anything I care much about. Overall he at least seems to vote where he says he does. Is his health a concern? Yes, even if the doctors say he's ok it's still something to worry about. Is it a bigger concern than with most other presidents however? Not really when you think about the past presidents the U.S. has had. That and this straight talk campaign of his, I'm sorry but you're going to have to do more than say you're straight talking, this is politics, unlike the judicial system where people are innocent until proven guilty, I general consider politicians less than trustworthy until they've proven otherwise. McCain however is still much closer to my ideal candidate than Obama, but he's still a long way off.

I will probably vote for McCain, but I won't be entirely happy about it. If anything it's more of a, I don't want Obama in the whitehouse, than anything else. It's rather sad, but that is basically what it comes down to.

Also on the topic of Vice-Presidents, the more recent example of Truman, Roosevelt's VP, is a pretty good one for this. Dr Killinger mentioned how the office of VP was once seen as worthless, and often that is the case. And back to Truman, he was more or less left out of the loop on many things and Roosevelt didn't really include him in a whole heck of a lot. That and when the Senate is not really balanced, the VP doesn't have to cast a vote very often. None-the-less Truman played an important role in American history. The office of the VP really varies in power based upon the administration the VP is a part of.