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Kenta
06-08-2008, 09:03 AM
Episode has been aired.

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Yes, he's back. Juicier than ever.

Stormslayer
06-08-2008, 02:17 PM
LOL fan service and evil Lulu, who once again, show that he has no love for beautiful or cute girls. (Which makes me wonder why so many girls become his fans)

Damn the crazy girl, Milly, for spoiling all the fun between the siblings.

How sad that Lee might lose his only true love if Zero forces himself upon the child by using his geass.

OutLawBankai
06-08-2008, 05:12 PM
ep 9 Chihiro - MU http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MV8KGJUX

Graffik
06-08-2008, 05:40 PM
Already aired?

Oh yes.

zan_get_su
06-08-2008, 08:32 PM
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nx6
06-08-2008, 09:34 PM
How sad that Lee might lose his only true love if Zero forces himself upon the child by using his geass.
Forces himself upon her? Gimmie a f-en break. She's just a political hostage.

Lulu x Kallen? :sad

Damn, here I was thinking Nina was going to grow into an interesting character after she told off Millay, but no. She has to go psycho again. I guess I should have known that chess game wasn't going to finish. I figured Lulu might lose and he'd reveal himself to Schnizel.

I think the best part of this episode was all the side banter between the characters. Not much C.C., but at least it wasn't an all-mecha episode.

Minami Itsuki
06-09-2008, 12:02 AM
Orange-kun Is Back!!!

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 12:17 AM
I think they broke the rules in that chess game..

And I think C.C. was jealous when Kallen was on top of Lelouch :o

Tiazani ish cute :3

Undying
06-09-2008, 12:31 AM
lolwhut at this episode.

Lulu, Kallen, and C.C having a loving problem o.o. Chess games, and political hostages.

The only thing I'm starting to wonder about is whether they intend to just cut this series short or milk its tits for money by stretching it to eternity. I'm hoping that Orange-kun's appearance signifies a faster pace towards the destruction of Britannia :o.

Minami Itsuki
06-09-2008, 12:39 AM
Lol that was an awesome scene! Yeah, Tiazani is awesome!

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 12:41 AM
Nina was sooo annoying in the episode. I hope someone kills her soon

M_A
06-09-2008, 12:52 AM
Nina was sooo annoying in the episode. I hope someone kills her soon
agreed.

i was happy that Lulu finally did something drastic towards the end of the episode, though the prolonged evil laughter was unnecessaary.

nx6
06-09-2008, 01:41 AM
I think they broke the rules in that chess game..
It has been pointed out that Lelouch made an illegal move. But Code Geass is not a chess anime so I think we can overlook it.

And I think C.C. was jealous when Kallen was on top of Lelouch :oShe looked pretty indifferent to me. Then again, I don't consider C.C. to be all that against an "open relationship".

lolwhut at this episode.
It's funny how many people I've heard react that way on other forums.

i was happy that Lulu finally did something drastic towards the end of the episode, though the prolonged evil laughter was unnecessaary.
I think it was. Given the greater and greater lengths Lelouch goes to to enact his revenge (taking over another country?), I'm beginning to wonder if this will be a tragic-ending anime. Lelouch consumed by his Geass and his quest for revenge (a la Captain Ahab, or Edmond Dantes in Gankutsuou).

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 01:43 AM
She looked pretty indifferent to me. Then again, I don't consider C.C. to be all that against an "open relationship".


well, she did kind of ruin the moment between Kallen and Lulu. I think she did that on purpose

nx6
06-09-2008, 01:46 AM
Yeah, the hot sauce comment was random and unneeded at that moment. Perhaps she's just trying to keep Lelouch on his task so he doesn't get distracted by the nookie and end up dead.

M_A
06-09-2008, 01:58 AM
I think it was. Given the greater and greater lengths Lelouch goes to to enact his revenge (taking over another country?), I'm beginning to wonder if this will be a tragic-ending anime. Lelouch consumed by his Geass and his quest for revenge (a la Captain Ahab, or Edmond Dantes in Gankutsuou).
i think i wouldn't mind that. i loved gankutsuo's ending.

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 04:20 AM
You just spoiled Gankutsuou for me :<

nx6
06-09-2008, 04:24 AM
If you had read the book it's based on (The Count of Monte Cristo) you'd already known how it ends. -.-'

Still. Sorry about that.

Edit: That shows worth it just for the visuals anyway.

M_A
06-09-2008, 05:15 AM
the book is one of my favorites ever. though they took some liberties with the storyline, including the ending.

/going off topic.

Minami Itsuki
06-09-2008, 05:28 AM
Nina was sooo annoying in the episode. I hope someone kills her soon

I know....fricken hate her so much..

Elocin
06-09-2008, 05:38 AM
Dunno about you guys, but this ep made me orgasm.

Orange-kun is back!

I have a feeling Lulu might get destroyed in the end at this rate. :\

Nina needs to die. Kthx.

Stormslayer
06-09-2008, 05:45 AM
I think it was. Given the greater and greater lengths Lelouch goes to to enact his revenge (taking over another country?), I'm beginning to wonder if this will be a tragic-ending anime.

How was it tragic? He got what he deserved...........

Orange-kun is back!

Yeah and as he claimed "I'm the only one who can defeated Zero." Yeah, of course, after all, he is the one who spoiled zero's victory in part one. Lulu needs his fake brother to survive him, Lee, Suzaku and the knights of round in the last episode.

Lee and Suzaku, LOL, the two holy knights.........It looks like Lulu is going to create another love tragedy.

nx6
06-09-2008, 05:45 AM
Everyone on MyAnimeList is doggin on this episode, saying the show has jumped the shark with all its randomness. I don't see it that way.

How was it tragic? He got what he deserved...What exactly did he deserve in this case? He deserves to become a political prisoner in Area 11 after he gets upset about his mother dying and his father ignoring it? He deserves to get separated from his sister? I mean, do you even look at what you're replying to before you start typing? If you don't understand anything about the structure of literature maybe you shouldn't reply.

A tragedy in the sense the hero (or anti-hero in this case) is lost in his own cause and ends up broken. Whether you agree with the character's ideals or not, in the classical sense the main character is supposed to persevere over the hardship he faces.

Stormslayer
06-09-2008, 06:02 AM
What exactly did he deserve in this case?

No one force him to rebel against his father and kill his siblings. He did because he feel good, hence he deserves to lose all his friends and loved ones (Except those who are rebelling with him), which is happening right now, you can't deny it.

A tragedy in the sense the hero (or anti-hero in this case) is lost in his own cause and ends up broken. Whether you agree with the character's ideals or not, in the classical sense the main character is supposed to persevere over the hardship he faces.

Whether he lost in his own cause or not, is entirely due to his extreme actions in handing out his goal. Hence, he deserves it.

Kenta
06-09-2008, 06:09 AM
I found it surprising that Lelouch met his match in Chess against Schniezel. Does it mean Schniezel is more intelligent than him, or just implying that Schniezel won't let anything hold him back when making his decisions. The latter being Lelouch's fatal flaw so far such as not killing Suzaku, worrying about his sister and even his peers.

Guy
06-09-2008, 06:20 AM
OK, being Chinese, I have to point something out: Why are the eunuchs running the country? Throughout Chinese history, eunuchs were looked down upon in the courts; they don't do anything other than assist the Emperor in boring tasks such as bringing documents to him. It would have made more sense for the scholars to rule the country; they are the Emperor's advisors. Whatever, I'm being too literal here.

The two week break was worth it, I guess, as this episode ends in another unexpected cliffhanger. Like everyone said, Nina was annoying in this episode.

I am now starting to have really negative opinions against Lelouch. He took Tianzi as a hostage! Were she truly an empress, my thoughts would have been different, but just look at her age! She's just a child, and yet Lelouch took her as a hostage for his own political gains

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 06:22 AM
I thought he took her because he's a pedo

Guy
06-09-2008, 06:25 AM
rofl, that's even more reason for me to dislike him, then >.<

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 06:35 AM
That poor little girl ;_;

Kenta
06-09-2008, 06:37 AM
In normal circumstances, the Eunichs would serve as advisors at best to the Emperor but in this case the Empress being so young and lack political knowledge would make the ideal puppet for them to achieve their own political means. There's basically no one else as far as I can tell who can offer the Empress advices besides those clowns, and no one would acknowledge Xing He as an advisor, at least publicly.

Lind Ni Britannia
06-09-2008, 07:02 AM
that promise Xingke made with Tianzi almost annoyed me cuz it had "Japanese are assuming other people use their mannerisms" in it. good thing Xingke justified it saying "this is how the outside world does it" XD well, that's pretty random on my part. i think the kind of relationship between Xingke and Tianzi is cute, like a really swell brother-sister one.

Milly's dress = win

Nina = death with a bunch of tables

Schneizel never planned on winning that chess game, imo. He accepted because it was a way he could read Zero, as per the "if you want to know someone, compete with them" scenario. And he got just what he wanted, lol.

great episode. worth the 2-week wait. Orange-kun knows about Lelouch with certainty now, lol. glad to see him without the insanity...or is it?

Kallen x Lulu goes up by 1 point this episode. i think C.C. mentioning hot sauce in that situation is cute, as it's like she's covering up even just a bit of jealousy. :P

in any case, can't wait for the next ep. Xingke in the Shen Hu! vs. Kallen, no less. this week will be torture once again.

nx6
06-09-2008, 07:07 AM
No one force him to rebel against his father and kill his siblings. He did because he feel good, hence he deserves to lose all his friends and loved ones (Except those who are rebelling with him), which is happening right now, you can't deny it.
You're ignoring how this whole story began. Lelouch leaves the family in protest for how his mother's murder was handled, and his father sends him and Nunally to Japan, there was no reason for that. In fact, he was using them as a political tool exactly the same way the Chinese government was using the Empress forcing her into that marriage.

Whether he lost in his own cause or not, is entirely due to his extreme actions in handing out his goal. Hence, he deserves it.You're getting off the topic. My original statement was that I can see this turning into a Tragedy, and you're like "lol, tragedy? He deserves it." My calling it a tragedy has nothing to do with how I feel about that characters or their morals. All I'm talking about is the structure of the story itself. Rather than this turning into a story of Lelouch's successful revenge against his father and a New World for his sister, it could be a story of his decay into madness. That still makes it a Tragedy, even if you're not rooting for Lelouch. Just like a story about Hitler's final days is a Tragedy even if you're a Jewish viewer. The fact you don't like Hitler doesn't make it a Comedy.

But you still don't get what I'm talking about, because you're still trying to reason what's happening to Lelouch as being "justice". This isn't about whether the main character is the good guy or not, and if what happens to him is just, given his actions. it's about the outcome for him in the prose, whether he fulfills his goal in the story.

Just stop before you look even more ridiculous. :babies:

I thought he took her because he's a pedo
:Haha

Stormslayer
06-09-2008, 08:24 AM
Rather than this turning into a story of Lelouch's successful revenge against his father and a New World for his sister, it could be a story of his decay into madness. This isn't about whether the main character is the good guy or not, and if what happens to him is just, given his actions. it's about the outcome for him in the prose, whether he fulfills his goal in the story.

Sorry, his actions destroy whatever sympathy I had for him since season one. He killed his sibling just because his father exiled him. Nice logic.............

And although goal is the end result, one must consider the process of getting to it. The point that he fail to get revenge and fallen into madness is all because of his own actions and thoughts. His end is what he choose for himself and no one else is responsible. I see no point of calling it "tragic" . Its a all expected outcome but people just refuse to buy it.

Just like a story about Hitler's final days is a Tragedy even if you're a Jewish viewer. The fact you don't like Hitler doesn't make it a Comedy.

Hilter's end a tragedy? You have strange definition of tragedy. Almost everyone I know think that Hilter deserve his sorry end.

Just stop before you look even more ridiculous.

You are the one making no sense. See your "Hilter" example. I bet if you ask a Jew, he will say Hilter deserve his end without a second thought.

I found it surprising that Lelouch met his match in Chess against Schniezel. Does it mean Schniezel is more intelligent than him, or just implying that Schniezel won't let anything hold him back when making his decisions.

No, Schniezel gets to know Lelouch's true character through the chess.

Stormslayer
06-09-2008, 08:34 AM
Why are the eunuchs running the country? Throughout Chinese history, eunuchs were looked down upon in the courts; they don't do anything other than assist the Emperor in boring tasks such as bringing documents to him.

Not really true, in the Ming dynasty, eunuchs were very powerful, some of them even control the secret police of that time. But they didn't have complete control and normally, they will ally themselves with other government official or dukes, something which is lacking in this anime.

nx6
06-09-2008, 09:10 AM
Hilter's end a tragedy? You have strange definition of tragedy.
:mad: No, I don't actually. Sadly, I must stoop to this:

trag·e·dy (trāj'ĭ-dē) n.
pl. trag·e·dies




A drama or literary work in which the main character is brought to ruin or suffers extreme sorrow, especially as a consequence of a tragic flaw, moral weakness, or inability to cope with unfavorable circumstances.
The genre made up of such works.
The art or theory of writing or producing these works.


A play, film, television program, or other narrative work that portrays or depicts calamitous events and has an unhappy but meaningful ending.
A disastrous event, especially one involving distressing loss or injury to life: an expedition that ended in tragedy, with all hands lost at sea.
A tragic aspect or element.

The tragedy I am talking about is in red. The one you are talking about is in blue. They are literally different meanings. I thought I made that clear in my last post, but apparently I have to hit you over the head with a heavy book to get you to see.

You are the one making no sense. See your "Hilter" example. I bet if you ask a Jew, he will say Hilter deserve his end without a second thought.
:rolleye09 Seriously, do not talk to me about this again until you've been through a few college English courses, or a good writer's workshop lasting at least a month.

Stormslayer
06-09-2008, 10:13 AM
I thought I made that clear in my last post, but apparently I have to hit you over the head with a heavy book to get you to see.

It would have been clearer if you show that dictionary in the first place instead of using irrelevant examples like Hitler.

Cero
06-09-2008, 10:23 AM
It would have been clearer if you show that dictionary in the first place instead of using irrelevant examples like Hitler.

Hitler was not an "irrelevant example" as you would put it. nx6 used one of history's greatest examples of tragedy to show you the meaning that he had used and you so blatently brushed off. When one says that a show/book/series of events might thus end tragicaly, it is implied that it will end with a sadness pertaining to the main character, or those around the main character. If you had stopped and taken some time to reflect upon what nx6 was saying, then you would have understood the meaning that he was trying to convey to you.

nx6
06-09-2008, 10:37 AM
It would have been clearer if you show that dictionary in the first place instead of using irrelevant examples like Hitler.
The first example I used was Moby Dick, one of history's greatest tragedies. Also, Gankutsuou, a highly praised anime for an example "closer to home" for this forum. I guess I should have chosen the mother of all examples: Romeo and Juliet.

Anyway, now that this is passed us. A tragedy would be a ending style that could show the powerlessness of Lelouch against the world, sort of like Death Note in a "we were really rooting for the protagonist, but they bit off more than they could chew" sense.

Miyagi Rikku
06-09-2008, 03:18 PM
nina made me facepalm =.=

Livius
06-09-2008, 03:51 PM
Just saw it
i hate that Nina

VIDTID
06-09-2008, 04:45 PM
Wtf is it just me or is a little girl gettin married to an old man:z22:
And now lelouch is gonna marry her :o
How many times is kallen gonna fall on lelouch before they get it on :p
Poor Xing Ke i hope he kicks zeros ass :D
And omg will someone kill nina already......

Tyekanik
06-09-2008, 05:06 PM
Not every loli can have three powerful men fighting over her XD

I'd think Lelouch would have some backup plan for sating Xing Ke's anger worked up rather quickly, along the lines of everyone getting out alive. He really doesn't need to keep going around making people angry.

Yes, Nina should be kept leashed up in the lab.

Undying
06-09-2008, 05:15 PM
@nx6: I reacted in that way because that's what I really thought for most of it - there was a bit of randomness. Overall though I liked it, or I wouldn't have bothered commenting :).

Oh and I almost forgot about Nina. She was so damn annoying... gah. "Eupehmia-sama's enemy! KILLLL!" in that shrill, impossibly annoying voice of hers -_-'.

Tianzi or whatever her name is being pathetic, which leads me to believe she's going to grow into a proper Empress and be all majestic and badass or die.

Jeggo
06-09-2008, 05:23 PM
I liked the episode , very much. It had many things , it showed us a glimpse of Xingke's past , it showed a little about how the Chinese Federation is ruled ,and most importantly it had Schneizer.

I liked it , till the very end just before the part when Lelouch starting laughing like a madman. I don't like how they show him more like a hero (*points at previous episode's ending*) and now they are back with the anti-hero stuff. I don't mind either , but stick to one style damn ^^.

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 05:31 PM
I hated the evil laugh at the end. it was so dumb.

Llamaking
06-09-2008, 05:57 PM
Really good episode.

I don't think that lulu is turning against china though. I think that he's doing this to save the princess from the marriage, because even if Xing ke did get to her, how would he get out with her?

I hate nina...

Kallen and lulu need to get it on already.

M_A
06-09-2008, 06:34 PM
I hated the evil laugh at the end. it was so dumb.
ah yes.

i hate evil laughs in animes they tend to feel awkward,

Jeggo
06-09-2008, 06:39 PM
I hated the evil laugh at the end. it was so dumb.

Yeah it was. Lelouch aims to assume an army so that he can beat Britannia. This won't be achieved by such tactics ^^. He should have an image likeable to the people , much like Schneizer does.

Guy
06-09-2008, 07:31 PM
I need to comment again. I didn't comment last time on how awesome Xingke is. Now I am. He's freaking awesome! I love eastern style swordsman >.<

I hope he kicks Lelouch's ass for holding a child hostage.

Stormslayer
06-09-2008, 07:51 PM
It seems that everyone hate Nina, in my opinion, rollo is the best person choice to rid of her.

I don't think that lulu is turning against china though. I think that he's doing this to save the princess from the marriage, because even if Xing ke did get to her, how would he get out with her?

No he already stated that his original plan is to control the Chinese empire through using his geass on Tianzi.

Of course, that is provided that he could escape the onslaughter of Suzaku and Xingke (and possibly orange kun) next chapter. If Tianzi dies during the process, Xingke will be another Suzaku and join the Britannia in the hunt for Lulu's blood.

I think lulu will escape to India.

nx6
06-09-2008, 08:01 PM
Wtf is it just me or is a little girl gettin married to an old man:z22:
And now lelouch is gonna marry her :o
I don't know why he said that, because I don't think he's going to marry her. What would Kagura say?

I liked the episode , very much. It had many things , it showed us a glimpse of Xingke's past , it showed a little about how the Chinese Federation is ruled ,and most importantly it had Schneizer.
I had heard Schneizer was the one getting married before this came out. Should have known he'd be too pwn to get directly wrapped up in this affair.

ah yes. i hate evil laughs in animes they tend to feel awkward,
Imagine how awkward it was for everyone in the room. XD

VIDTID
06-09-2008, 08:22 PM
I don't know why he said that, because I don't think he's going to marry her. What would Kagura say?


Guess he might jus kidnap her and then "pretend" to marry her.... somehow he needs to get the chinese federation under his control.

M_A
06-09-2008, 08:30 PM
Guess he might jus kidnap her and then "pretend" to marry her.... somehow he needs to get the chinese federation under his control.
i think just kidnapping her and using her as hostage may be enough. though marriage would be...interesting.

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 08:40 PM
Maybe he really does like little girls

nx6
06-09-2008, 08:43 PM
i think just kidnapping her and using her as hostage may be enough. though marriage would be...interesting.

That's what I assume will happen. Once he's used her for his political gains he'll give her to Xingke and the two of them will ride off into the sunset. <3

VIDTID
06-09-2008, 09:17 PM
That's what I assume will happen. Once he's used her for his political gains he'll give her to Xingke and the two of them will ride off into the sunset. <3

Yaay happy ending for Xing \o/

nx6
06-09-2008, 09:20 PM
Very happy ending. ;)
/pedo

:Haha

M_A
06-09-2008, 09:30 PM
but then Lulu will be harem-less. >_>

Sting Rae
06-09-2008, 09:39 PM
There's too many pedos in this show D:

Guy
06-09-2008, 09:46 PM
I don't think Xingke is romantically in love with the empress; he's just very faithful to his empire's figurehead.

blanc.lait
06-09-2008, 10:34 PM
^
lol of course, its just a run around joke like lelouch vs suzaku.. -_-;

but then again. you never know

Kabane
06-10-2008, 04:24 AM
rawr thoughts:

1. I don't really know why Lelouch kidnapped the princess, it would have been more beneficial to let Xing take her. (at least i thought so) Now everyone just hates the Black Knights.

2. Nina just gets worse and worse by the minute. She's ugly, a *****, lesbian, and crazy. what. the. f*ck.

3. I didn't even know there was a brother older than shneizelpoo, i must have forgotten somehow because when they showed the "first prince" i was like.. who's that?

4. KallenxLelouch > C.C.xLelouch

nx6
06-10-2008, 06:57 AM
1. I don't really know why Lelouch kidnapped the princess, it would have been more beneficial to let Xing take her. (at least i thought so) Now everyone just hates the Black Knights.
Agreed.

2. Nina just gets worse and worse by the minute. She's ugly, a *****, lesbian, and crazy. what. the. f*ck.
What's wrong with being a lesbian? :<

3. I didn't even know there was a brother older than shneizelpoo, i must have forgotten somehow because when they showed the "first prince" i was like.. who's that?
Cause he's a douchebag. I think he was shown in a grand total of two episodes in season 1.

4. KallenxLelouch > C.C.xLelouch
lol wut?

Kabane
06-10-2008, 07:32 AM
What's wrong with being a lesbian? :<

lol, nothing. but it can nevertheless be used as a vice to strengthen an argument. :)


lol wut?

YOU HEARD ME.

Kenta
06-10-2008, 07:46 AM
I bet all the wives of the first prince are lolis.

Kabane
06-10-2008, 08:10 AM
loli's are quite popular in that reality.

nx6
06-10-2008, 08:52 AM
Note to Lulu x Kallen fans:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Codegeass0733LG-1-.jpg

I see no Shirley x Suzaku that ever blossomed.

Kenta
06-10-2008, 08:58 AM
That's because Arthur the cat doesn't get enough screentime.

nx6
06-10-2008, 08:59 AM
Oh, sure. Blame the cat. The point is ROFU (rolling on the floor unexpectedly) does not mean a match.

Llamaking
06-10-2008, 09:09 AM
No he already stated that his original plan is to control the Chinese empire through using his geass on Tianzi.

Of course, that is provided that he could escape the onslaughter of Suzaku and Xingke (and possibly orange kun) next chapter. If Tianzi dies during the process, Xingke will be another Suzaku and join the Britannia in the hunt for Lulu's blood.

I think lulu will escape to India.

Hmm, looks like I need to rewatch the episode :)

Either way, why does lulu need to completely control all the countries? Isn't he doing exactly what Britannia is doing - aside from the discrimination?

Lind Ni Britannia
06-10-2008, 10:43 AM
Oh, sure. Blame the cat. The point is ROFU (rolling on the floor unexpectedly) does not mean a match.

true, but that was Suzaku and Shirley's only implication. Kallen and Lelouch have had more moments. in fact, almost each episode in R2 so far has given them at least one scene with only the two of them in it, or where something between them is implied. ;)

ep. 1 - when they bumped into each other
ep. 2 - the scene in that command room
ep. 3 - Kallen complaining about C.C. and Lelouch tricking them[or her, as C.C. said]
ep. 4 - one episode where nothing related to the two of them happened
ep. 5 - talking inside the costume
ep. 6 - nothing here either
ep. 7 - you know what happened here lol
ep. 8 - nothing here
ep. 9 - ROFU

so yeah. :P

I stand my ground that Xingke x Tianzi is a sibling-like affair!

and Lelouch's evil laugh sounds hella gay. >_>

dogmatix
06-10-2008, 11:47 AM
Hmmm

just hmmm

My major thought on this episode was 'lol you can't move your king into check noob'.

as far as the actual story goes ... i'll hold off judgement due to the rest of the series being ... good.

Stormslayer
06-10-2008, 02:23 PM
Either way, why does lulu need to completely control all the countries? Isn't he doing exactly what Britannia is doing - aside from the discrimination?

Just the entire Chinese empire, a stage in his new plan to give him enough power to destroy Britannia (Notice how his declared plans change from making Japan independence in season one into destroying Britannia in season two without a word of protest from his knight)

However, since Lulu is likely to use the Indians in the same way as he used the Japanese, another chess piece in his game for revenge.

Guy
06-10-2008, 06:48 PM
But the Chinese empire isn't powerful enough to challenge the Brittanians; that's why those eunuchs act like such suck-ups to the Brittanians.

M_A
06-10-2008, 07:15 PM
However, since Lulu is likely to use the Indians in the same way as he used the Japanese, another chess piece in his game for revenge.
Indians?

Kabane
06-10-2008, 08:03 PM
i dont know why people think he'll go to india, that's silly, they've made NO appearances in the story. AT ALL. Besides, a whole other "fleeing to another country" event would be redundant and unoriginal.

Llamaking
06-11-2008, 03:30 AM
i dont know why people think he'll go to india, that's silly, they've made NO appearances in the story. AT ALL. Besides, a whole other "fleeing to another country" event would be redundant and unoriginal.

Isn't India supplying the knighmares to the black knights?

Plus, I think they also mentioned that India wants to seperate from the Chinese federation.

Guy
06-11-2008, 04:03 AM
Isn't India supplying the knighmares to the black knights?

Plus, I think they also mentioned that India wants to seperate from the Chinese federation.

Then by helping India, wouldn't they alienate the Chinese? The Chinese officials are Brittania's ass kissers, so they may form an alliance. Pretty bad idea imo.

Lind Ni Britannia
06-11-2008, 12:24 PM
the Chinese are kissing everyone's asses. first they give a manmade island to the Black Knights, then kiss Britannia's ass. since Zero has the Empress now, they're back to kissing Zero's ass. it's like a stupid mood swing.

Guy
06-11-2008, 04:59 PM
the Chinese are kissing everyone's asses. first they give a manmade island to the Black Knights, then kiss Britannia's ass. since Zero has the Empress now, they're back to kissing Zero's ass. it's like a stupid mood swing.

Regardless of whose asses they kiss, by helping India, Zero WILL alienate the rest of the Chinese Federation, and therefore, the Chinese Federation will help Britannia to capture Zero in order to keep India.

Oh, technically, there's one country's ass who they haven't kissed, and that's the EU's ass. ;)

Kabane
06-11-2008, 11:08 PM
Isn't India supplying the knighmares to the black knights?

Plus, I think they also mentioned that India wants to seperate from the Chinese federation.

i said appearances. No one from India has been shown in this anime.

An unknown figure/government with no face probably won't have enough guts to house the Black knights, and they aren't even "officially" broken off from China yet.

Llamaking
06-14-2008, 05:50 PM
i said appearances. No one from India has been shown in this anime.

An unknown figure/government with no face probably won't have enough guts to house the Black knights, and they aren't even "officially" broken off from China yet.

No one from China was shown also until this season.

They've talked about China a lot, but no one made an appearance. The same could happen to India, with them talking about them a lot first then after a while, some of their people will start to make an appearance.

Guy
06-14-2008, 08:40 PM
^Nonetheless, it's still pure speculation. We were revealed quite a bit about the Chinese this season so far, so it's reasonable that the Chinese will play a factor in this season's story. Unless they start to show a lot about the Indians, I doubt the Indians will play a big part.

That being said, why are the Europeans hardly ever shown? *just curious*

dogmatix
06-15-2008, 04:07 AM
I think it's just due to the Nippon-centricness of the show. The Euros have been shown a few times, as sort of the far-away-front.

Guy
06-15-2008, 05:52 AM
I was just wondering. We've seen lots of Japanese and Britannians, we're starting to see Chinese... just wondering when we'll see more Europeans.