DArk or light

[Daeruke]

Which is stronger or cooler? The ultimate question.

[MasterX25]

Obviously they are both equally strong,light can shine on darkness while darkness can cover light

[SmallKid57]

wut he said!

[drifter]

well id have to say the dark side because..no matter what dark mostlikly is always cooler lookin!

[Minami Ikki]

Stronger? Impossible, as said in MULTIPLE games, animes stories, etc.

Without light there is darkness, but light can be in the form of anything, hope, blah blah blah, you know, all that good guy stuff.

And there will always be darkness in place of light because of blah blah blah, all that bad guy stuff.

And besides, you turn off the light darkness comes, you turn it on, Darkness is where the light can't reach.

YIN AND YANG PEOPLE. >_>

[Z_Blitz]

When it comes to strength they both equal for reasons Arakawa mentioned... Light and dark co-exist, there is no 'stronger' power when both are compared. However, in every anime, game, series where light and dark are involved usually it is the dark-side that have all flashy stuff and they get to present it first... The light-side then get an artifact that is so sacred that it will be capable of keeping the dark stuff at bay... Kinda cliched...=/

[Renji-sama]

i agree, they pritty much have an equal balance, depening on if you consider "dark" to be evil and "light" to be good evil tends to have the problem with corruption, and dishonesty that ultimatly brings them down, or weakens them. and then the good always prevail! or something

[Raku]

You can't really say it.. Like people posted before there aint the 1 without the other..

If you really want a question that we could say for sure would it be something like :

What color do you think look neatest?

[maximoose666]

What color do you think look neatest
I don't like flat colour at all, but if it has to be, then v. dark blue.

On the Dark vs. Light question: In games I think Light side is more rewarding to play, although there are normally some cool things you can do if you're dark.
In films I prefer the dark side because they're much cooler.
In life - well obviously I don't like really evil people, but I kinda think dark is cooler and looks cooler. But dark is definitely stronger.

[Apocalypse]

In an elemental stance, both are of equal status. They are not particularly weak to any of the other elements. The catch to all of this though; is that in some cases light can completely destroy dark. In other cases, both are in equal terms when pitted against eachother (In other words... both do massive damage towards eachother). It depends on what you are watching/playing when you compare the forced of light and dark.


Quite frankly, I find dark much more intriguing. Dark typically has the best magic moves overall, whereas light has predominantely all healing/curative spells... and perhaps one or two powerful light-based attacks. It depends on what you are looking for.

[Purokku-kun]

The Dark Side has the greater allure... but would be nothing without the light.

[Ujio]

I dunno. Dark clothing is definitely cooler (cept when ya wear black and everything shows up on it, like cat hair and stuff - - )

But I think they're both pretty much equal. It's all about balance.

[_strangechild_]

The dark (as in... lack of light?) might perhaps be less attractive to some because it disables a lot of your sight, so you cannot see what's in front of you and such, and so your fears rise at the front of your head as you wonder what made the floorboard creek.
I prefer night time, myself. I don't really like being in the sun or anything. So I'd say I prefer the dark. But I don't like being outside when it's dark, 'tis commonly when the weirdos and drunks come out to play.
Then again, more murders and such have been committed in daylight or so I've heard.
My mate's mate gets headaches in light =(
Another mate has no irises and so he prefers the dark as he can see better. =)
Go darkness!

[Daeruke]

I like the dark but light is sometime useful

[Domokun]

Here's some random mystcism for you: How can one know the light without knowing there is darkness, how can you know bravery without first knowing fear.

[Demexor]

well you can know the light if there was light shining all over and no inch was dark then you would know light and not darkness.
You can be couragous and braze without fear. fear isnt everything everyone so claims it to be. it doesnt always turn you into a stronger person because you aren't strong in the first place if u have fear. yet you can still have equal strength with a person who has no fear and you yourself has fear. but w/e

Darkness rules. Light sucks. end of :]

[Domokun]

Lol, it's an old philosophy that proposes if you lived in an absolute state of light all your life you would not realize it to be light, because there would be nothing (no darkness) to contrast it against. Same for bravery you wouldn't know that you were being brave because you never knew of the exsistance of fear.

Light and darkness/bravery and fear are only examples. All our lives are lived in contrast and comparisons.

[koreasamurai]

Lol, it's an old philosophy that proposes if you lived in an absolute state of light all your life you would not realize it to be light, because there would be nothing (no darkness) to contrast it against. Same for bravery you wouldn't know that you were being brave because you never knew of the exsistance of fear.

Light and darkness/bravery and fear are only examples. All our lives are lived in contrast and comparisons.


VERY TRUE! it would b hard 2 tell things without seeing the other side first

[cookieMONSTA]

without LIGHT there'd be no DARKNESS. without DARKNESS there'd be no LIGHT.

for short, neither of the two would exist without each other.
like bravery and fear.

[prime91]

hehe.. I'm a christian so: Light rules ^_^..
Dark is cool.. But in the end with really really dark things it's kinda creapy. And light is with hapiness and joy. I mean c'mon, you really want to spend your life into the darkness doing nothing than being depresive and taking drugs?

[Tennyo Hakumei]

Really I think both have the same strenght, after all they are balancing forces light cannot exist without dark and viceversa.

Even though I find dark more alluring.

[Ravenfdasfd]

I like how Kingdom Hearts portrays it.

The closer you get to the light,the larger your shadow becomes.

[kraziekid]

Which is stronger or cooler? The ultimate question.



light is wayyy betters but dark is stronger

[mooks]

I would say light wins in the end. But dark always seems cooler and stronger

[ChansteR]

Light always shines over dark but dark can be produced from the shadows of light.....good guys are light, bad guys are dark.....

God this thread is so DEEP...

[Daeruke]

dark is coll but light always win! Actually no it doesn't. Thats waht ppl want but in reality dark sometimes win the 9/11 and world wars and other stuff. Ppl want the owrld to b peaceful but it is not so they portrays it in media

[Amu]

Grrr...too deep man...I don't feel like typing a darn essay on it! Fine I will give a short answer! Dark and light both must be equal in order for a life with equilibrium is to exist but beyond a reasonable doubt the fact that light is energy I would say light is cooler or brighter.. :LOL:

[bbyxgurl]

dark is way cooler than light

[jamike]

LIght should win! The sun beats the darkness of night! But Dark spells look cooler :P

[magesha]

Both and neither! To see darkness in light and to see light in darkness. That is true power!

[Apocalypse]

In the end, light has won the battle. Looking at it from a scientific view point, and not thinking of elemental systems found in RPGs and the like, light is far more potent. Darkness is defined as the lack of its opposite, light. Light is the presence of photons, particles so small that they are believe to have no mass. Furthermore, they travel at extremely large speeds. I believe it was something like 3.0 * 10^8 m/s. That is extremely fast (speed of light). Light does cover virtually all parts of the universe, as the number of stars is nearly infinite. Furthermore, light reflects off of planets and natural satellites. This in mind, light is just about everywhere. Sure, there are some scraps of darkness left over in the Universe, but light not only far out numbers it, but dark no longer exists once light touches it.

In fact... there is only one thing that can defeat light scientifically. That would be black holes, as not even the extremely fast particles/waves of light can escape it. Some might argue that black holes can be called "dark", but I don't think so. Black holes don't effect only light, but also matter, time, and possibly some dimensional concepts the human mind can not even begin to comprehend.

[magesha]

Is there any light without darkness, and is there any darkness without light?
How do you know that it is dark, if there is no such thing as light?
How do you know that there is light, if there were no much thing as darkness?
If light were to get rid of all darkness in the world, do you think there will be any light left? How would you know that there is light, if you have no darkness to contrast it with?
So, as long as there is darkness, there should be light and as long as there is light, there will be darkness. One cannot be without the other and neither can be ultimately superior.

[Future]

If star wars has told me anything the Dark side is the best side and the coolest

[_Ink]

Is there any light without darkness, and is there any darkness without light?
How do you know that it is dark, if there is no such thing as light?
How do you know that there is light, if there were no much thing as darkness?
If light were to get rid of all darkness in the world, do you think there will be any light left? How would you know that there is light, if you have no darkness to contrast it with?
So, as long as there is darkness, there should be light and as long as there is light, there will be darkness. One cannot be without the other and neither can be ultimately superior.


very true, depends on what you are debating, in science, both must exist in harmony and neither is superior.
however, if you are talking about character, then well, being evil is cool and all that, but you will never get true satisfaction until u conquer everything, which in the end becomes emptiness.

[DarkHitsugaya]

Dark side, they don't live by any standards or rules, if somebody needs to die, they die. They don't injure them to the brink of death, then leave them alone, letting them regain strength to come back and defeat you.

[magesha]

however, if you are talking about character, then well, being evil is cool and all that, but you will never get true satisfaction until u conquer everything, which in the end becomes emptiness.
my point exactly!

[M_Ghey]

I'd LOVE to be neutral, but unfortunately thats almost impossible. So, I'd rather be light.

[shikari]

apocalypse that is awesome sig, X all the way.


i think i'd rather be light, dark looks cooler but light wins more :d

[magesha]

I mean that one should be both dark and light, by realizing that they are one and the same. neutral means being neither which is void. but being both is entireity, infiniteness

[Apocalypse]

Is there any light without darkness, and is there any darkness without light?
How do you know that it is dark, if there is no such thing as light?
How do you know that there is light, if there were no much thing as darkness?
If light were to get rid of all darkness in the world, do you think there will be any light left? How would you know that there is light, if you have no darkness to contrast it with?
So, as long as there is darkness, there should be light and as long as there is light, there will be darkness. One cannot be without the other and neither can be ultimately superior.

...and this brings me to my point. What exactly are we dicussing? Are we discussing the figurative meanings of light and dark? Are we discussing the light and dark elements? Are we discussing attitudes or emotions that can be thought of as light and dark? Previously I took a figurative look; my most-recent post was a scientific one. One can not judge if one side wins (or neither) if one does not know in what context "light" and "dark" are being compared. For while your idea sounds right in regards to how the human mind might view it; scientifically, darkness does not really exist. "Darkness" is simply the lack of light; no photons... or... at least... not enough to give a visible response to our eyes. There is no "anti-photon" which produces dark. For dark to be described as an actual opposing "force" to light, it must be made up of something that is the opposite of light. However, no such thing exists. Therefore, dark does not exist. If dark does not exist, then light, by default, wins.

In other words, "dark" is just a concept to describe the lack of light. It is actually just like how "cold" is just a concept to describe lack of heat. Being blind, though you may not see the light, it is there because photons, which in essence, are light, are still present. In this same situation, if you are in shade... you will not know it. Unlike the example with light; however, there is no particle of "dark" present. The only thing you could say in such a situation is, "There are no photons", and thus "There is no light".

[magesha]

Have you heard of such a thing called antiparticle?
they said in semiconductor theory, that hole is just an absence of electron. However, in the immersion created by the lattice, a percieved particle "hole" with all the physical properties of a particel and not those of the absence of a particle was found through scientific chracterization. This lead to the theory of antiparticle as to how vaccuum is actually equivalent to a semiconductor crystal and when an electron was created, the void it left is an anti-particle called positron. This is for all percieveable purposes a particle and not the lack of one. Similarly, for photon to exist, there should at some place have been its anti-particle created. It is not proved mainly because of the extremely low mass and high speed of photons. photons are on the borderline between waves and particles. In either case, there has to be an anti-photon or an opposing particle. If this were to be called the "dark" photon, it would then be that my explanations above are true.

[Apocalypse]

Have you heard of such a thing called antiparticle?
they said in semiconductor theory, that hole is just an absence of electron. However, in the immersion created by the lattice, a percieved particle "hole" with all the physical properties of a particel and not those of the absence of a particle was found through scientific chracterization. This lead to the theory of antiparticle as to how vaccuum is actually equivalent to a semiconductor crystal and when an electron was created, the void it left is an anti-particle called positron. This is for all percieveable purposes a particle and not the lack of one. Similarly, for photon to exist, there should at some place have been its anti-particle created. It is not proved mainly because of the extremely low mass and high speed of photons. photons are on the borderline between waves and particles. In either case, there has to be an anti-photon or an opposing particle. If this were to be called the "dark" photon, it would then be that my explanations above are true.

Well done. I hadn't thought you would try to get in to antimatter. However, that is antimatter. To my knowledge, there is no reference of anti-light. Then again, light does have the characteristics of a particle, which is matter. If there was such a thing, THAT would be true dark. However, the dark we are currently referring to is not that. In such a case, however, both would indeed be of equal power. The photon and the anti-photon meeting would result in the cancelling out of each other. Thus resulting in "darkness" (neither the photons or anti-photons would exist).

[Future]

Take nobody's side (neutral) if someone askes you what side your on just say "I have no feelings one way or the other" or "All i know is my gut say's mabye" and if your being attacked say "if i don't survive tell my wife.... hello"

[magesha]

theme domo (thanks for that- meaning the compliment)... now, i agree the usual darkness that is referred to is the absense of light. but the main crux of my argument is that perception is the only evidence. Hence, in the absence of light, how will you be able to perceive darkness and assert its existence and vice versa. So, when light and dark are dependent on each other for their existence, the way we see it, how can one be more powerful than the other? This is the point where objectivity forces one to be subjective. To be frank, these are not totally my ideas, its a collection of thought from various indian philosophy books and quantum mechanics (like schrodinger's cat) books that i gathered. now, i dont quote the source to add credibility to my arguement, only to give credit where its due.

[M_Ghey]

theme domo (thanks for that- meaning the compliment)... now, i agree the usual darkness that is referred to is the absense of light. but the main crux of my argument is that perception is the only evidence. Hence, in the absence of light, how will you be able to perceive darkness and assert its existence and vice versa. So, when light and dark are dependent on each other for their existence, the way we see it, how can one be more powerful than the other? This is the point where objectivity forces one to be subjective. To be frank, these are not totally my ideas, its a collection of thought from various indian philosophy books and quantum mechanics (like schrodinger's cat) books that i gathered. now, i dont quote the source to add credibility to my arguement, only to give credit where its due.
You make some great points. When one is totally dependant on the other, one cannot be more powerful. How can we know what darkness is if we don't have light to show us a different way or belief. Thjerefore, they are equal. If so, our goal should be the equilibrium of light and darkness. They make each other whole, and in some ways, maybe even cancel out.

[magesha]

Sweeet! Atleast one person agrees! not bad!

[M_Ghey]

I guess we just agree on some basic ideas, as shown in the What is Evil? thread.

[magesha]

huh? if you mean when all colors merge its white, so it should be light!?

[SLVR]

Well I chose dark because I go to school at nght, work at night, partys at night, and replys at night. Plus my eyes see better when 1 thing is bright and all else id dark.

[magesha]

EDIT: wrong forum sry!
Oh lol.. then its that light that makes you see no?!

[SLVR]

EDIT: wrong forum sry!
Oh lol.. then its that light that makes you see no?!
You made me delete my first post

[magesha]

You made me delete my first post
LOL I did? sorry! but how?

[aerikh]

light!
but i personally prefer dark-like light characters.. :p

[sun89]

i perfer dark

[Isis]

Depends on what mood I'm in actually. Most of the time I'd prefer light though.

[rice_eater]

i choose light. without light there is no life. without the sun we cannot live @_@

[SLVR]

LOL I did? sorry! but how?
You made me think I was posting in the wrong topic. (srry fer the spam)

[Specter]

I don't know, I like them bth really. Generally when on a movie or game Dark is always shown as being stronger in the begining. However in the case of ligh it is stronger over time and usually kicks the crap out of dark. But they are both nessicary for the other one.

[Tokoyami]

Light is t3h bomb

[uber_otaku]

there is no such thing as pure evil or good. As in good there is always a speck of evil, and in evil there is always a speck of good. This way yin and yang are balanced. But i've got to say that evil is always much cooler.

[M_Ghey]

hmmm. Good needs evil to exist for it to distinguish itself and be called good. Same goes for evil. They are never far from each other. There is usually a thin line between good and evil. They blend together seamlessly to create all the emotions and perception, I think.

[qball546]

both are equally strong, so i choose GRAY

[vejitto3]

Dark much better and stronger than light period

[Bakuretsu]

perfect balance of Dark & Light is the ultimate power :toocool:

[Dark Fire]

Destruction-Dark

[Darts15]

I think both are cool!!! XD I like the light cause usually their pretty but the darks cool because there's some cool powers and stuff that the dark gets and light doesn't