Retsu Unohana FC [manga spoilers]

[SenpaiRetsu]

Hello Everyone I'm starting the Retsu Unohana FC

This FC is dedicated to the most pwn character in bleach.

She's beautiful, wise, kind, and strong. This will be the best FC because Retsu is the best. Byakuya is strong an noble yet so arrogant. Zaraki is strong and cool but crazy. Ichigo is good but he doesn't think or use strategy. Unohana is the best!

Here are some stats on her:

Squad flower: bellflower (liking the mourning sovereign)
Caption: genuine elegance

Personal Data
Birthdate: 21st Apr
Height: 159cm
Weight: 45kg
Zanpakutou: Minazuki
Colour of the underside of captain's robe: grayish pink
Interest: Ikebana (flower arrangement)
Speciality: Kendo (sword-fighting)
Food: Likes strong flavoured food. Dislikes bland tasting food.
How to past free time: mountain climbing that involves collecting medicinal herbs

Battle stats
Reiatsu: 100
Defence: 80
Mobility: 70
Kidou: 100
Wisdom: 100
Stamina: 90

Though she has few opportunities to fight at the front line, her offensive skills are nevertheless high! If angered, she could possibly be the most scary captain...

Character description
The only division in the battle-based Gotei 13 squads that specialises in healing and reinforcement and this is the 4th division. Positioned at the rear, the 4th division is in charge of rescuing and healing injured squad members.

With polite mannerisms, she could verbally knock down even the most rustic people who do not listen to words. The mismatch with the mild impression she presents to others is her speciality in swordfighting.

Special Information (Top Secret)
During her off-duty days, she would climb the mountains located in the various zones in Rukongai. As she has been spotted flying on Minazuki by eye witnesses on several occasions, whether she climbed the mountains on her own or not, is a mystery. As she has an interest in flower arrangement, she would gather the 4th division members once a month for ikebana classes (attendance is voluntary). Yachiru also participates in these sessions however, she only eats the snacks given out during breaktimes and after which, she returns to her squad.

here is how she compares to other captains in terms of her skillset:
This next Particular part was kindly done by: Gokuu from a different forum. It basically compares the stats from above so u don't have to keep switching from person to person.

Overall
1. Yamamoto (560)
1. Aizen (560)
3. Unohana (540)
4. Kyouraku (530)
5. Kuchiki (510)
6. Hitsugaya (500)
7. Ukitake (490)
8. Ichimaru (480)
9. Komamura (470)
10. Soi Fon (460)
10. Tousen (460)
12. Kurotsuchi (430)
13. Zaraki (390)

Attack Strength
1. Yamamoto (100)
1. Unohana (100)
1. Aizen (100)
1. Komamura (100)
1. Zaraki (100)
6. Kuchiki (90)
6. Kyouraku (90)
6. Ukitake (90)
9. Soi Fon (80)
9. Ichimaru (80)
9. Hitsugaya (80)
12. Tousen (70)
12. Kurotsuchi (70)

Defence Strength
1. Yamamoto (100)
1. Komamura (100)
3. Aizen (90)
3. Kyouraku (90)
3. Ukitake (90)
6. Ichimaru (80)
6. Unohana (80)
6. Kuchiki (80)
6. Hitsugaya (80)
6. Zaraki (80)
11. Tousen (70)
11. Kurotsuchi (70)
13. Soi Fon (60)

Mobility
1. Yamamoto (100)
1. Soi Fon (100)
3. Aizen (90)
3. Kuchiki (90)
3. Kyouraku (90)
3. Hitsugaya (90)
7. Ichimaru (80)
7. Tousen (80)
9. Unohana (70)
9. Ukitake (70)
11. Zaraki (60)
12. Komamura (40)
12. Kurotsuchi (40)

Kidou/Reiatsu
1. Yamamoto (100)
1. Unohana (100)
1. Aizen (100)
1. Kyouraku (100)
1. Kurotsuchi (100)
7. Kuchiki (90)
7. Tousen (90)
7. Hitsugaya (90)
10. Ichimaru (80)
11. Soi Fon (60)
12. Komamura (50)
13. Zaraki (0)

Knowledge
1. Yamamoto (100)
1. Unohana (100)
1. Aizen (100)
1. Kurotsuchi (100)
1. Ukitake (100)
6. Kuchiki (90)
6. Kyouraku (90)
6. Tousen (90)
9. Ichimaru (80)
9. Komamura (80)
9. Hitsugaya (80)
12. Soi Fon (60)
13. Zaraki (50)

Stamina
1. Soi Fon (100)
1. Komamura (100)
1. Zaraki (100)
4. Unohana (90)
5. Ichimaru (80)
5. Aizen (80)
5. Hitsugaya (80)
8. Kuchiki (70)
8. Kyouraku (70)
10. Yamamoto (60)
10. Tousen (60)
12. Kurotsuchi (50)
13. Ukitake (40)
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This next particular part was kindly done by: tari101190 from a different forum. This shows the same stats as percentages.

Yamamoto - 93%
Soifon - 77%
Ichimaru - 80%
Unohana - 90%
Aizen - 93%
Byakuya - 85%
Komamura - 78%
Shunsui - 88%
Tousen - 77%
Hitsugaya - 83%
Zaraki - 65%
Mayuri - 72%
Ukitake - 82%

I'm looking for a co-owner because I don't always have time to be here. Anybody can join, all you have to do is post and ask to be on and we'll get u on the list. Enjoy the banner I made as well.

One more thing I'm not very good with computers so if anybody wants to do something to spruce up the page definitely feel free.

Post any great fanart, fanfic, or anything else you want about Unohana. Everyone is welcome.

Here is the banner :)

o no i can't seem to get the banner up, if someone knows how to convert a photoshop file and convert it to another let me know.

Remember "We're not here to spill blood, we're here to stop it."

Co-owners:
SenpaiRetsu and Verve

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[ByaRukifan]

I'll join!
Unohana is awesome!

[SenpaiRetsu]

I'll join!
Unohana is awesome!

Welcome to have you, your the first member!

[ByaRukifan]

Yay!

[Undying]

/me joins

That should be fun... posting random stuff about an almost unknwon captain :hmm:

[smach]

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@Undy: :banana2:

[Rainl]

I must join, since I helped you come up with the idea! :<

/rant

[Neko Rae]

I will join :)

[ByaRukifan]

Yay! More members!

[SenpaiRetsu]

Great lets get this started then? Since Unohana's shikai doesn't allow her to have a zanpakuto i'm thinking her bankai will be the same. With that being said probably relies on some strong offensive kidou in a fight.

I have the suspicion that she might the one that will drop the infamous and mysterious Bakudo #99 on someone. I'm sure we'll see it before the end of bleach. I think there is a good possibility that she may use it on one of the VL's. It's going to be epic!

[ByaRukifan]

Yeah I hope.
Unohana's fight scene is going to be awesome when it comes. I bet she'll pwn them in no time.
I wish they would give more info about her.

[SenpaiRetsu]

Yeah I hope.
Unohana's fight scene is going to be awesome when it comes. I bet she'll pwn them in no time.
I wish they would give more info about her.

Me too i'm hoping that he'll give her a flashback showing why she has such an aversion to fighting. She's the only captain that chooses not to kill. Even mayuri doesn't like to fight but he'll certainly kill. tosen claims the doesn't like to kill but he's a hypocrite, look at what he did to the vaizards.......

Unohana is only going to fight if she gets an order from Yama or if she is backed into a corner. and may the lord have mercy on whoever pisses off captain mom it's going to be over really quickly.

Because their zanpakutos reflect their natures and personality. She doesn't like to kill, so i'm sure her bankai is going to be a 1 shot KO to end the fight. though it might not not kill.

[Undying]

Me too i'm hoping that he'll give her a flashback showing why she has such an aversion to fighting. She's the only captain that chooses not to kill. Even mayuri doesn't like to fight but he'll certainly kill. tosen claims the doesn't like to kill but he's a hypocrite, look at what he did to the vaizards.......
Well technically Tousen never actually killed anyone, you know? He only Hollowfied the Vaizards and cut off Grimmjow's arm. He never killed anyone, so he's not a hypocrite. Well, not yet.

As for Unohana, I doubt we need a flashback. Unohana is a healer through and through, she's devoted to healing, and despite any offensive power she has she refuses to fight.

Unohana is only going to fight if she gets an order from Yama or if she is backed into a corner. and may the lord have mercy on whoever pisses off captain mom it's going to be over really quickly.
Everyone pissed off captain mom, that's why's everyone afraid of her... I think she will fight if she assesses that the situation demands it. For example, if she senses Ulqiorra's power and decides Ichigo is too useless xD.

Because their zanpakutos reflect their natures and personality. She doesn't like to kill, so i'm sure her bankai is going to be a 1 shot KO to end the fight. though it might not not kill.
I have the feeling is going to be a lot meaner than killing... nerve destruction, sucking out life energy, paralyzing permanently, putting into a coma...

Her bankai doesn't need to have destructive capabilities to be insanely powerful...:whatevah:

[ByaRukifan]

Me too i'm hoping that he'll give her a flashback showing why she has such an aversion to fighting. She's the only captain that chooses not to kill. Even mayuri doesn't like to fight but he'll certainly kill. tosen claims the doesn't like to kill but he's a hypocrite, look at what he did to the vaizards.......


Yeah, Hopefully we will get a flash back chapter about her. That would be awesome!
Hopefully her bankai will be awesome too.

[SenpaiRetsu]

Well technically Tousen never actually killed anyone, you know? He only Hollowfied the Vaizards and cut off Grimmjow's arm. He never killed anyone, so he's not a hypocrite. Well, not yet.

As for Unohana, I doubt we need a flashback. Unohana is a healer through and through, she's devoted to healing, and despite any offensive power she has she refuses to fight.


Everyone pissed off captain mom, that's why's everyone afraid of her... I think she will fight if she assesses that the situation demands it. For example, if she senses Ulqiorra's power and decides Ichigo is too useless xD.


I have the feeling is going to be a lot meaner than killing... nerve destruction, sucking out life energy, paralyzing permanently, putting into a coma...

Her bankai doesn't need to have destructive capabilities to be insanely powerful...:whatevah:

I don't think she's pissed off too many people. she probably made examples out of the few that were dumb enough to cross her. I'm assuming it was an ex-captain for shunsui and ukitake to fear being on her bad side.

I have to disagree with you in the whole Ichigo Ulq thing. she didn't stop Ichigo from fighting Byakuya. she could have intervened in that battle but chose to let it continue she said "there's nothing we can do now" I'm sure she could have gotten involved but she chose not to. I don't see her changing her position for no reason. especially because Ichigo is not a captain. She is not going to fight unless ordered to or she has no choice. she will not fight to help out another captain. she didn't even help Hitsugaya and she stood there the whole time and watched.

You have some good ideas as to what her bankai's ability might be. i like the paralysis but Mayuri already does that. The sucking energy, Yumichka does that already, though he sucks riatsu not life energy. I can definitely see her putting someone into a coma though.

[Undying]

I don't think she's pissed off too many people. she probably made examples out of the few that were dumb enough to cross her. I'm assuming it was an ex-captain for shunsui and ukitake to fear being on her bad side.
Well, they could always have pissed her off in their early days... and after that she developed a reputation...

I have to disagree with you in the whole Ichigo Ulq thing. she didn't stop Ichigo from fighting Byakuya. she could have intervened in that battle but chose to let it continue she said "there's nothing we can do now" I'm sure she could have gotten involved but she chose not to. I don't see her changing her position for no reason. especially because Ichigo is not a captain. She is not going to fight unless ordered to or she has no choice. she will not fight to help out another captain. she didn't even help Hitsugaya and she stood there the whole time and watched.
She didn't stop Ichigo and Byakuya because that fight served a purpose, and she needed to investigate the C46 anyway. She most likely wanted to use the distraction to sneak into the C46, where she thought Aizen was.

As for Hitsugaya, she arrived a moment too late. She wasn't standing there and watching, she arrived right as he fell. And as soon as she arrived she saw Aizen and proceeded to see if her theories were correct. Which they were... for the most part.

You have some good ideas as to what her bankai's ability might be. i like the paralysis but Mayuri already does that. The sucking energy, Yumichka does that already, though he sucks riatsu not life energy. I can definitely see her putting someone into a coma though.
There are different kinds of paralysis. Mayuri's paralyzes the movement but not pain. Unohana's can paralyze multiple targets without contact, and not just the movement, but real paralysis.

But to be honest, something other came up. What if she could manipulate the chemicals in a person's brain? Once she cuts them, she could change the chemicals in their brains using reiatsu. She could put them to sleep, cause them to experience intense pain, remove the sensation of pan, add or reduce adrenaline amounts in their blood, and so on.

It's both elegant and extremely deadly, just like Unohana :toocool:. If she's a master of herbs she could potentially concoct some nasty brews for her enemies. Healers can be so badass :busy:

[Rainl]

There are different kinds of paralysis. Mayuri's paralyzes the movement but not pain. Unohana's can paralyze multiple targets without contact, and not just the movement, but real paralysis.

But to be honest, something other came up. What if she could manipulate the chemicals in a person's brain? Once she cuts them, she could change the chemicals in their brains using reiatsu. She could put them to sleep, cause them to experience intense pain, remove the sensation of pan, add or reduce adrenaline amounts in their blood, and so on.

It's both elegant and extremely deadly, just like Unohana :toocool:. If she's a master of herbs she could potentially concoct some nasty brews for her enemies. Healers can be so badass :busy:

Yikes... Now that I'm actually thinking about it. That almost puts her on an Aizen/Yamamoto pedastal. Not to mention the fact that I'm sure she is very well in-depth of healing. Not considering the possibility she has an instant-heal button, just in case things doesn't go out as planned.

Damn, maybe mom is invicible..

[Undying]

Yikes... Now that I'm actually thinking about it. That almost puts her on an Aizen/Yamamoto pedastal. Not to mention the fact that I'm sure she is very well in-depth of healing. Not considering the possibility she has an instant-heal button, just in case things doesn't go out as planned.

Damn, maybe mom is invicible..

Brute strength and offensive techniques are hardly the only things that form a fighter. Yamamoto/Aizen evidently rely on reiatsu manifesting as technique and power for attacks (Yamamoto = flames, Aizen = illusions). Unohana's techniques won't necessarily have high offensive power in them, but their ability to kill may be higher than even Yamamoto's. Though his offensive power is highest, Unohana's ability to kill will be still better.

I could allude this situation to Kurama in Yu Yu Hakusho. Kurama's offensive power isn't really that high compared to his comrades (like for example Hiei), but his plants are far deadlier than a simple sword.

So yeah, chances are mom's invincible.

BLAST! And here I was planning on an assassination!

[SenpaiRetsu]

I'm getting the feeling that Ichigo is going to solo Ulq. it seems clear that KT wants those two to square off once and for all. I'm aware that Kubo wants Unohana's fight to be epic. but after Ulq dies there won't be many people left worth anything except maybe Wonderwice.

So i'm thinking that they will escape from HM and head over to fake Kakura town. but then that will be overkill vs 3 espada. so enter the vaizards. we know they will be in this battle. so who do you guys think Unohana will fight? a vaizard or an espada? or maybe even one of the rogue captains?

[Rainl]

Brute strength and offensive techniques are hardly the only things that form a fighter.

True, although I suppose Yama/Aizen definately are great defensively, seeing how its technically been proven. Cases being with Shunsui/Ukitake vs Yama. If most people agree, that Shunsui-manipulates wind, while Ukitake- manipulates lightning and water.(Which is in no way canon atm, but if we simply rely on every single other character's shikai. Whatever they chant, always manages to somehow be of reference to their shikai.)

Now you have Wind, Water, and Lightning, which should easily counter fire. How the hell you manage to not land a single blow is beyond me. So I suppose its hard to even get near him ,simply because of how destructive the fire is.

Aizen another case, seeing if you can't get through his illusion, your not even getting close to him. Or if your not powerful enough, he'll simply negate it with his barehands. This is why I prefer to stay away from Yama/Aizen arguments, its hardly comparable.

Yama, may potentially have the most "power", but on the contrary Aizen/Unohana potentially has the most "effective", which there is a difference between the two.

As for Unohana. Hopefully we'll get atleast a glimpse of her soon. Personally I hope she does go against Ulquiorra. Ichigo sure as hell doesn't deserve to beat him. I absolutely do not want to see him, win off some bs, flashback power up, or some lame-ass speech.

GO MOM!

[Undying]

They cannot escape Hueco Mundo without someone to open a Gargante for them, and since Grimmjow is down for the count, Ulqiorra, Yammy, and Wanderweiss won't do it, and I doubt Ganbetein has the intelligence to do something as complex as that, they are stuck there.

As for soloing Ulq, while it is a possibility, I see a slim chance that it won't be that, because it's premature. Ichigo has only just realized his newfound powers, somewhat like Yusuke when he first revived as a demon. His power is greater than before, to be sure, but he's not mastered it yet. His powers are not enough to beat Ulqiorra (or at least shouldn't be) on his own.

I, therefore, hope for some Ogichi action, or some Unohana interference. Since Zaraki is too wounded to fight and Byakuya already had his thirty-eight pages of glory (not to mention losing two limbs), Unohana is the last captain left in Hueco Mundo who haven't fought yet.

Now granted, I would much rather see an Ogichi/Ichigo combination taking down Ulqiorra while Unohana is fighting Wanderweiss who justifies his currently unexplained existence, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Unohana/Ulqiorra bout as well. It would be a nice number match.

True, although I suppose Yama/Aizen definately are great defensively, seeing how its technically been proven. Cases being with Shunsui/Ukitake vs Yama. If most people agree, that Shunsui-manipulates wind, while Ukitake- manipulates lightning and water.(Which is in no way canon atm, but if we simply rely on every single other character's shikai. Whatever they chant, always manages to somehow be of reference to their shikai.)

Now you have Wind, Water, and Lightning, which should easily counter fire. How the hell you manage to not land a single blow is beyond me. So I suppose its hard to even get near him ,simply because of how destructive the fire is.
Naah, I was talking offensive power only. I have little doubt that Yamamoto's fighting prowess are top-notch. Merely having the highest offensive power would already prove a troubling ability considering he could simply overpower their attacks with his superior one, but I have little to no doubt that his defensive powers and tactical planning are more than enough to counter most anything aside from the most powerful attacks.

It's possible Unohana doesn't have that high a defense, but her healing powers are probably her substitute for that.
Aizen another case, seeing if you can't get through his illusion, your not even getting close to him. Or if your not powerful enough, he'll simply negate it with his barehands. This is why I prefer to stay away from Yama/Aizen arguments, its hardly comparable.


Yama, may potentially have the most "power", but on the contrary Aizen/Unohana potentially has the most "effective", which there is a difference between the two.
Indeed, the main reason Aizen/Yama argument will forever stay a circular argument (forever being a hyperbole until Kubo shows everything those two can do) is because they are too different and their abilities are completely opposite. Yamamoto relies on massive offensive power (probably, given the fact his zanpakto is fire, which would destroy everything it contacts depending on how hot it is), while Aizen's is more delicate and complex. Unohana's is probably the most elegant and brutal of the three considering that a healer killing someone would be rather brutal and messy...


As for Unohana. Hopefully we'll get atleast a glimpse of her soon. Personally I hope she does go against Ulquiorra. Ichigo sure as hell doesn't deserve to beat him. I absolutely do not want to see him, win off some bs, flashback power up, or some lame-ass speech.

GO MOM!
As I said in reply to SenpaiRetsu, I'm hoping for Ichigo/Ogichi action against Ulqiorra and Unohana action against Wanderweiss. Something tells me the little creepy blondie is more than we suspect.

[Rainl]

They cannot escape Hueco Mundo without someone to open a Gargante for them, and since Grimmjow is down for the count, Ulqiorra, Yammy, and Wanderweiss won't do it, and I doubt Ganbetein has the intelligence to do something as complex as that, they are stuck there.

Unless, Grimmjow, while on the verge of extinction. Does Ichigo one last favor, opening the Garganta allowing them passage back to KT. Which would be lame ass hell..

Edit: Someone kill me. Good God.. Don't ever let me think that or write that again..


I, therefore, hope for some Ogichi action, or some Unohana interference. Since Zaraki is too wounded to fight and Byakuya already had his thirty-eight pages of glory (not to mention losing two limbs), Unohana is the last captain left in Hueco Mundo who haven't fought yet.

True. Which may even improve her chances of fighting Ulquiorra. Hopefully, although quite honestly. As of now though. I personally would've rather enjoyed it better if Unohana stayed with the Big 3 in KT..you know. Aizen(Top 3 Espada) vs Yama(Big 3), damn that would've been epic. But we can only dream...

Naah, I was talking offensive power only. I have little doubt that Yamamoto's fighting prowess are top-notch. Merely having the highest offensive power would already prove a troubling ability considering he could simply overpower their attacks with his superior one, but I have little to no doubt that his defensive powers and tactical planning are more than enough to counter most anything aside from the most powerful attacks.

True although people don't seem to recognize this. I've actually seen "DEBATES" as if Hitsugaya could beat him or not simply due to him posessing the most powerful Ice-type Zankpatou. They honestly put him against Yama because he has the "Strongest fire based Zan", and [I]actually try to compare them..gotta be kidding me. Everytime I see one I wanna just cut myself.


Now granted, I would much rather see an Ogichi/Ichigo combination taking down Ulqiorra while Unohana is fighting Wanderweiss who justifies his currently unexplained existence, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Unohana/Ulqiorra bout as well. It would be a nice number match.

I honestly don't give a damn who does it. As long as it isn't Ichigo alone..


It's possible Unohana doesn't have that high a defense, but her healing powers are probably her substitute for that.

Yea..who needs defense when you have an instant-heal button right...? Lul'd. Straight speculation.

Yamamoto relies on massive offensive power (probably, given the fact his zanpakto is fire, which would destroy everything it contacts depending on how hot it is), while Aizen's is more delicate and complex.

True, although you wouldn't necessarily call Aizen's shikai delicate no? Controlling all your five senses like a mere peon, to where your useless, then simply proceed to chop your limbs off without noticing.. :o


As I said in reply to SenpaiRetsu, I'm hoping for Ichigo/Ogichi action against Ulqiorra and Unohana action against Wanderweiss. Something tells me the little creepy blondie is more than we suspect.

Wasn't it stated somewhere he had espada level power? Or did people simply assume he did, due to him showing up with only espada comrades? I do agree that there's more to him than meets the eye.

[Undying]

Unless, Grimmjow, while on the verge of extinction. Does Ichigo one last favor, opening the Garganta allowing them passage back to KT. Which would be lame ass hell..

Edit: Someone kill me. Good God.. Don't ever let me think that or write that again..
*vomits blood* No, please no. I just ate. Please, please, please let it not be so. Grimmjow should die as he lived, in a flash of the a blade... Wait, Iron Maiden fan moment. He should die as he lived: a predator. The lonely king of the kill. He killed alone, and he will die alone, untainted by compassion and care. That would beautifully define his character and its flaws.

Please Kubo... don't mess this up... don't... I will almost accept everything else you throw at us after this... lame fights, boring bland characters, even Rukia and Ichigo being together without Orihime to finish the threesome and without Renji to complete the foursome...

^yeah that was sick

True. Which may even improve her chances of fighting Ulquiorra. Hopefully, although quite honestly. As of now though. I personally would've rather enjoyed it better if Unohana stayed with the Big 3 in KT..you know. Aizen(Top 3 Espada) vs Yama(Big 3), damn that would've been epic. But we can only dream...
She had to come in order to heal Rukia, that's as clear as day (well, and Chad and Ganbetein :p). And indeed it would have been better if Soi Fon was in Hueco Mundo rather than Unohana. That would spare us that fatass VC being his usual useless couch potato. If she was in Karakura she would by now have devised a plan to counter The 6 bad guys' powers already. And Yamamoto could complete her plan by adding the finishing touches.

And then lose in an epic bout and let Aizen win! :musak:

True although people don't seem to recognize this. I've actually seen "DEBATES" as if Hitsugaya could beat him or not simply due to him posessing the most powerful Ice-type Zankpatou. They honestly put him against Yama because he has the "Strongest fire based Zan", and [I]actually try to compare them..gotta be kidding me. Everytime I see one I wanna just cut myself.
:Haha Whenever you see that remind everyone that Hitsugaya possesses the "strongest ice-type zanpakto" out of the only two in existence. That should shut them up pretty well.

I don't understand how people can even consider Hitsugaya being able to face Yamamoto... just because he has the opposite element doesn't mean he is equal to Yamamoto =|. Fighting prowess is a lot more than just brute offensive power.

I honestly don't give a damn who does it. As long as it isn't Ichigo alone..
That would be lame indeed. Ichigo should never be allowed to win alone IMO. He should always at least be helped by Ogichi.

Yea..who needs defense when you have an instant-heal button right...? Lul'd. Straight speculation.
But logical. I mean, she's a healer. She's like the strongest healer around. Surely she can tend to her own wounds...
True, although you wouldn't necessarily call Aizen's shikai delicate no? Controlling all your five senses like a mere peon, to where your useless, then simply proceed to chop your limbs off without noticing.. :o
True, but to actually use the illusions to defeat the opponent without raising a finger, to annihilate them via their own fears and sins, that's delicate and brutal. Like Kurama from Yu Yu - his plants are brutal, but delicate.

Wasn't it stated somewhere he had espada level power? Or did people simply assume he did, due to him showing up with only espada comrades? I do agree that there's more to him than meets the eye.
It was stated. According to Soul Society, there were "four Espada class signals". Although they considered Yammy powerful... <.<' Espada power is pretty moot. But regardless, Wanderweiss is more than meets the eye, because all innocent children are.

[SenpaiRetsu]

what do u think about her being Zaraki's teacher? Do you think she traught him kendo? i don't think Yama uses kendo when he fights. by the way he holds his sword i don't think he uses it or needs to use it. for instance he fought 4 swords at once(shunsui's and ukitakes) Kendo is good for power but there'd be no way he'd have the speed to defend against 2 opponents with 2 swords holding his sword kendo style.

Zaraki never said he learned Kendo from Yama he just said that he made him learn it. Since Unohana was Ukitake's and Shunsui's teacher she probably taught Zaraki as well. I'm saying she was Ukitake and Shunsui's teacher because they were the first students to graduate from the academy. Unohana was a captain before there was an academy. someone had to teach at the academy so i'm sure Unohana was one of the teachers.

If she can spa with Zaraki's kendo on par or even better could that mean her BASE power is equal to Zaraki with kendo? if that's true then her opponent will have no chance.

[Undying]

what do u think about her being Zaraki's teacher? Do you think she traught him kendo? i don't think Yama uses kendo when he fights. by the way he holds his sword i don't think he uses it or needs to use it. for instance he fought 4 swords at once(shunsui's and ukitakes) Kendo is good for power but there'd be no way he'd have the speed to defend against 2 opponents with 2 swords holding his sword kendo style.
Well, I suppose Yamamoto does know Kendo, otherwise he would not have realised it's a powerful mastery.

Kendo is more than just the way you hold the sword, that's just the basic part of it, like the punches in other martial arts. What Kendo is about is discipline and focus. Yamamoto most likely insisted that Zaraki has to learn Kendo in order to discipline his violence and as a side effect to increase the power of his sword (you can try this at home really, grab your bokuto with two hands in the proper manner, focus a little, and you'll notice how the strike because definitely stronger. You can throw your hole body weight into it and effectively cleave an opponent in two) so that he would have what to fall back on when his brawling failed him.

After all, Zaraki's brute brawling strength would fall against anyone with enough technique added to adequate power, and Yamamoto can't have that in a captain.

Plus, the discipline part. I honestly think that Zaraki is a lot more tame now than he was before, which is probably a result of his Kendo practice.

Zaraki never said he learned Kendo from Yama he just said that he made him learn it. Since Unohana was Ukitake's and Shunsui's teacher she probably taught Zaraki as well. I'm saying she was Ukitake and Shunsui's teacher because they were the first students to graduate from the academy. Unohana was a captain before there was an academy. someone had to teach at the academy so i'm sure Unohana was one of the teachers.
Unohana is Ukitake and Shunsui's senior, not teacher. And by the way they refer to her, it's obvious that Yamamoto was the only teacher in the Academy at that time (most likely due to the low number of students). Anyway, it's little relevance to Zaraki.

I think she was indeed his teacher, her temperament and fearsome reputation would make her an obvious mentor to Zaraki. Since he is wild and untamed (or at least was), Unohana's motherly tendencies and ability to intimidate are exactly what's necessary to keep Zaraki in line. She is probably powerful to handle Zaraki's attempts at fighting.

So yeah, it was either her or Yamamoto, and since Yamamoto is most likely busy with the 1st's administrative duties, it was Unohana.

If she can spa with Zaraki's kendo on par or even better could that mean her BASE power is equal to Zaraki with kendo? if that's true then her opponent will have no chance.
Doubtful. I don't believe anyone except possibly Yamamoto has Zaraki's base power. That's because that's his type of fighter, a warrior who relies purely on massive amounts of strength. Because of that, his brute power is by nature extraordinarily high, making it better than most other people. But sparring requires a lot more than simple offensive power. Unohana's technique and stamina probably match his, though she cannot push him back in a contest of muscle (or reiatsu muscle), she is more than capable of overpowering him easily.

Take for example Drizzt Do'Urden from R.A.Salvatore's books and Wulfgar. Wulfgar is a barbarian and possesses herculean strength, but Drizzt is still the superior fighter (Drizzt is a Dark Elf) because of his mastery of the sword, innovative thinking, and superior offensive and defensive skill. Wulfgar is like Kenpachi in the sense that he possesses massive strength but little regard to defense or technique, making him inferior to Drizzt. Even when Wulfgar learns much from Drizzt, Drizzt remains superior due to his superior technique, speed, and intelligence.

I believe the situation is the same here. Unoahan may not have the same amount of power but her technique and mastery, as well as intelligence, outdo Zaraki by far, making her superior. Especially before he learned Kendo.

[SenpaiRetsu]

Well, I suppose Yamamoto does know Kendo, otherwise he would not have realised it's a powerful mastery.

Kendo is more than just the way you hold the sword, that's just the basic part of it, like the punches in other martial arts. What Kendo is about is discipline and focus. Yamamoto most likely insisted that Zaraki has to learn Kendo in order to discipline his violence and as a side effect to increase the power of his sword (you can try this at home really, grab your bokuto with two hands in the proper manner, focus a little, and you'll notice how the strike because definitely stronger. You can throw your hole body weight into it and effectively cleave an opponent in two) so that he would have what to fall back on when his brawling failed him.

After all, Zaraki's brute brawling strength would fall against anyone with enough technique added to adequate power, and Yamamoto can't have that in a captain.

Plus, the discipline part. I honestly think that Zaraki is a lot more tame now than he was before, which is probably a result of his Kendo practice.


Unohana is Ukitake and Shunsui's senior, not teacher. And by the way they refer to her, it's obvious that Yamamoto was the only teacher in the Academy at that time (most likely due to the low number of students). Anyway, it's little relevance to Zaraki.

I think she was indeed his teacher, her temperament and fearsome reputation would make her an obvious mentor to Zaraki. Since he is wild and untamed (or at least was), Unohana's motherly tendencies and ability to intimidate are exactly what's necessary to keep Zaraki in line. She is probably powerful to handle Zaraki's attempts at fighting.

So yeah, it was either her or Yamamoto, and since Yamamoto is most likely busy with the 1st's administrative duties, it was Unohana.


Doubtful. I don't believe anyone except possibly Yamamoto has Zaraki's base power. That's because that's his type of fighter, a warrior who relies purely on massive amounts of strength. Because of that, his brute power is by nature extraordinarily high, making it better than most other people. But sparring requires a lot more than simple offensive power. Unohana's technique and stamina probably match his, though she cannot push him back in a contest of muscle (or reiatsu muscle), she is more than capable of overpowering him easily.

Take for example Drizzt Do'Urden from R.A.Salvatore's books and Wulfgar. Wulfgar is a barbarian and possesses herculean strength, but Drizzt is still the superior fighter (Drizzt is a Dark Elf) because of his mastery of the sword, innovative thinking, and superior offensive and defensive skill. Wulfgar is like Kenpachi in the sense that he possesses massive strength but little regard to defense or technique, making him inferior to Drizzt. Even when Wulfgar learns much from Drizzt, Drizzt remains superior due to his superior technique, speed, and intelligence.

I believe the situation is the same here. Unoahan may not have the same amount of power but her technique and mastery, as well as intelligence, outdo Zaraki by far, making her superior. Especially before he learned Kendo.

I agree with all said here except the part about Unohana not being their teacher. It seems logical if she is their senior, and she was a captain before the academy, then why wouldn't she be teaching them? What else would she be doing? we know she doesn't like killing so it's much more likely she'd teach at the academy rather than be one of the captains fighting on the battle field. I wouldn't be surprised if she teaches at the school to this day. specifically healing arts of course. but maybe also kendo for those who want to learn.

[Undying]

I agree with all said here except the part about Unohana not being their teacher. It seems logical if she is their senior, and she was a captain before the academy, then why wouldn't she be teaching them? What else would she be doing? we know she doesn't like killing so it's much more likely she'd teach at the academy rather than be one of the captains fighting on the battle field. I wouldn't be surprised if she teaches at the school to this day. specifically healing arts of course. but maybe also kendo for those who want to learn.

She could be healing... or studying her healing arts. Seniority does not necessarily indicate teaching. For example, I am your senior in CB, I'm not exactly your teacher, now am I? The same would apply here.

But she may have taught them some things, like Kendo or Kido, if Yamamoto couldn't finish their education in areas he himself is not well versed at.

Well, time will tell, this is a really moot point...

Anyway is it just me or this FC is really quiet? I was hoping for some interesting conversation here since Unohana is one of the few more interesting characters because we know so little about her... I guess we all want to see her fight soon or she'll be forgotten like so many other characters?

[Rainl]

But she may have taught them some things, like Kendo or Kido, if Yamamoto couldn't finish their education in areas he himself is not well versed at.

Well not necessarily. Although she was their senior I doubt she taught them anything at all. Seeing as Yamamoto specifically states himself, He specifically trained the two on how to expand there power, to make them "unbeatable".


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Well, time will tell, this is a really moot point...

Yep.

[SenpaiRetsu]

It is really quiet in here but don't worry. after Unohana dishes out her inevitable pwnage there are going to be so many people hopping on the bandwagon. It's OK, i'll welcome them with open arms.

[Rainl]

It is really quiet in here but don't worry. after Unohana dishes out her inevitable pwnage there are going to be so many people hopping on the bandwagon. It's OK, i'll welcome them with open arms.

Yep. Thats how it always intend to happen though. Although half of the people are too simple-minded too actually take a look at the manga, or read it. They immediately write her off as weak because she's a healer. If they had read they'd understand this.

[Undying]

Indeed, note that Unohana is always in the bottom of lists made by most people? Because she is a "healer", her offensive powers must be weak. Even Hantarou, the series' standing "most weakest", has a relatively high offensive power with his zanpakto, and Unohana, who is a million times more powerful than Hanatarou, has low offensive power?

Does I smella shiet!?

[Kurosaki Isshin]

Isn't Hantarou zanpakto a scalpel that heals eveything it touches?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ONMJn_droU


Ok so it has some attack power but he has to heal people first.

[ByaRukifan]

Yeah, whenever he hits people with it a little read gauge on the side fills up then it does a strong (I guess?) Offensive Attack that actually wounds then turns into a small...useless scalpel.
I think I got that right...

[Undying]

The scalpel gathers all the wounds it caused, and releases them in a massive attack. Even Hantarou (!) has an attack that can cause severe damage (depending on the wounds he causes).

So yeah...

[Kurosaki Isshin]

Lol he would get so owned if he was fighting and actuall captain with that damn thing.

Before I forget /joins.

[SenpaiRetsu]

Devil your in :) jwnage! happy to have you

[Kurosaki Isshin]

I am happy to be here. I'll just add you to the massive list of FC now lol.

[SenpaiRetsu]

banner is up check out the first post

[ByaRukifan]

Wow, Awesome Banner! ^_^

[Tsukuyomi]

I'll join!! Retsu Pwns!!!

[SenpaiRetsu]

Welcome aboard Rukia/Grace glad to have you!

[Tsukuyomi]

Thakies!!!

[Xcalibur]

I'd like to join this FC as well if you wouldn't mind