Episode 61 Discussion thread *Spoliers* [Archive]

Injektilo

12-13-2005, 11:36 PM

It's Komamura who attacks Aizen, incidentally, for some reason, that shot of Aizen face on with one eye obscured by the light reflecting off his glasses is extremely cool inexplicably. His eyes look dead, like a sharks, kind of emotionless, definately my favourite Manga villain other than Aion from Chrno Crusade

ramonnl

12-14-2005, 12:18 AM

Wow will soon be subt cant wait for this 1 want to see more ichigo bankai!

Jedi28

12-14-2005, 12:44 AM

Yeah, we get to see Myuari (guy Ishida beat) without all the makeup, mask and white clothing. That image is in the Manga and I hoped they would put it into the Anime. It's cool to see the guy actually IS a human surprisingly.

Bankai_Zangetsu

12-14-2005, 01:36 AM

lol if u can even call him him a human (mayuri that is) one gothed out dude .. guy has a sickle on a string thing for his ear .. anyways where can i get episode cant find it anywhere

Hits

12-14-2005, 02:14 AM

*Question* Who is the blue haired guy?

Injektilo

12-14-2005, 02:20 AM

*Question* Who is the blue haired guy?
That's the non-uglified version of Mayuri, I don't think he has ears.

_Ink

12-14-2005, 02:38 AM

what the hell? that guy with the blue hair is Mayuri?
cool....he looks like a rock star...
spammed

now, we get to see how Aizen owns, he breaks teh sword of Renji without even breaking a sweat and what is more, stopping bankai with a finger??
now that is what i really wanna see!

Hits

12-14-2005, 03:00 AM

oh, was he shown in the manga? I haven't seen him...

Jedi28

12-14-2005, 03:18 AM

oh, was he shown in the manga? I haven't seen him...

Yeah, the 4th division vice captain sends out the message and everyone gets it. There's a full body scene of him (looks like he just reformed out that goo stuff) and you can see he has no ears. His VC says something about the message that they just received and he responds that he doesn't care and has no interest in it.

Cleric

12-14-2005, 03:27 AM

I havn't seen it yet b/c my torrent is taking forever but i've read the mangs and all I have to say is Aizen Kicks some serious A$$ ^_^ V,,

Hits

12-14-2005, 03:31 AM

Oh thanx, i see him now...probably more then to my liking...

Jedi28

12-14-2005, 04:30 AM

Oh thanx, i see him now...probably more then to my liking...

No kidding. You probably blocked it out. :)

Ahhhhh! Quickly, avert your eyes! :)

rafdraft

12-14-2005, 04:49 AM

Aizen Rocks... cant w8 for the episode with subs in it...

WTF blocking a bankai with a finger

Guys if your kind enough to give us torrent links, i am not mistaken lunar would probably released it on friday... its much better if you have torrent files that are already downloadable...

xyouxarexuglyx2

12-14-2005, 05:08 AM

Jedi28

12-14-2005, 05:19 AM

Can someone please post a picture of Mayuri? And if he looks cool, he should keep the look. I thought he was trying to run for the mascot of Energizer when I first saw him, because his outfit just screams electricity. If Dattebayo doesn't release it, I will be SO pissed!

Here you go. I'll see if I can find the Manga pic.

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Bleach/Bleach%20-%2061%20-%2006.jpg

Fariswheel

12-14-2005, 05:22 AM

your picture did not work.

Jedi28

12-14-2005, 05:29 AM

Oh, I must have done it wrong. It was just the image from the screencaps section on the first page. I didn't know you couldn't do it like that. Sorry. I did it the same way I set up my avatar and signature so I thought it was okay.

captain_soifon

12-14-2005, 05:29 AM

did for me =p

ashuran

12-14-2005, 05:35 AM

yeah i hoped they show the 4th cap without his get up on in the anime like they did the manga.

Jedi28

12-14-2005, 05:58 AM

Oh well, I seem to have struck out. I couldn't get the Anime image in and couldn't find the Manga image even though I know I saw it before. Even if I could find it I'd have to save it to my computer and then upload it and I don't know how to spoiler tag an attachment like that. SO, someone with more computer smarts (which, um, would be just about everyone else) will have to do it. :) :)

Kyouka Suigetsu

12-14-2005, 06:08 AM

This episode was pretty entertaining. Komamura didn't look weak in it either. Mayuri looks just fine without all the craptacular stuff that's usually on him. I can't wait for the next one. Everything will fall into place.

Domokun

12-14-2005, 06:10 AM

No new episode after 61 until Jan.10th?! Noooo!

*edit* correction the guy on the screencaps website said episode 62.

that would finish off the ss arc I guess, so it makes sense.

Kyouka Suigetsu

12-14-2005, 06:48 AM

No new episode after 61 until Jan.10th?! Noooo!

Wow, wow, where did you get this piece of info from? That would suck big time. The two week wait was bad enough as it is, so I hope it isn't true.

DeaTH_TroT

12-14-2005, 07:26 AM

!!??
oh man...dat better not be true~~

captain_soifon

12-14-2005, 07:27 AM

dam subs arent out out =[

Domokun

12-14-2005, 07:42 AM

Was just reading some of the comments from the screen caps website posted on the first page. Probably unconfirmed but would definatly suck if it were true. Er and he said it's after 62 not 61 my mistake.

12-14-2005, 08:24 AM

DB is out:
http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/b61.torrent

ashuran

12-14-2005, 08:37 AM

nooooo 16hrs to download it XD and i got cable internet wth noooo!!!!

DragonBlade:
Avoid going offtopic :P

_Ink

12-14-2005, 09:09 AM

lol....looks like now things are clear in the open, Aizen has some major reiatsu to do all that, blocking a bankai with his finger, shows to see how powerful he is. Rigged wise. I`think Aizen has the power to conquer all the other capts, but i wonder what part will Mayuri play now...

AznPoi

12-14-2005, 09:12 AM

Mayuri is just liquid now. He still has to heal so he's not going to be back for a long time. Second, I don't think he is in alliance with Aizen according to the manga.

Domokun

12-14-2005, 09:17 AM

On a completely unrelated note, Isane has a really cool tatoo oh her arm I didn't notice from the manga.

12-14-2005, 09:19 AM

Ah, what a great episode. Got to love Aizen :)
Favorite phrase from him from this episode :D
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4200/snapshot200512140020268cc.jpg

_Ink

12-14-2005, 09:23 AM

Mayuri is just liquid now. He still has to heal so he's not going to be back for a long time. Second, I don't think he is in alliance with Aizen according to the manga.

Maybe he says so, he may be playing with Aizen's side as a consultant in SS?
possibly cause consider how much he likes those stuff like what Urahara is doing...i think there is a serious problem....

Capthxc

12-14-2005, 10:59 AM

Mayuri is just liquid now. He still has to heal so he's not going to be back for a long time. Second, I don't think he is in alliance with Aizen according to the manga.
if you notice in the episode, mayuri takes form. He is just not wearing any make-up and unless you reconize the voice it would be hard to tell since he looks very, well...normal. I do however think he still has a while before he has regained his strength. I also doubt he is in an alliance with aizen as well, he seems to be more of a side enemy of sorts, i think he might be more of a personal enemy for ishida and his plot.

ChronoTrigga

12-14-2005, 11:24 AM

Hmm...maybe Mayuri is gonna steal all of the stuff that Aizen stole and make himself a hybrid (as if he wasn't hybridededed enough).

Human Zangetzu

12-14-2005, 11:56 AM

W00t this ep looks darn good! Can't wait for 62!

mottesheard

12-14-2005, 01:23 PM

Zattara2222

12-14-2005, 02:04 PM

Nice ep..... to bad the season will end :((((((

rikki_shiratori

12-14-2005, 03:24 PM

damn... i'm beginning to like Aizen with him trash talking like that... awesome...

bleachdude

12-14-2005, 03:53 PM

awesome episode never thought things would unfold like that. does anyone know where to get direct download episodes 1-20 avi format. trying to bit torrent but seems best speed for the old ones is 2kb.

E-LinK

12-14-2005, 03:57 PM

I thought Aizen kicked Renji's ass because of his hypnosis ability... Just like the fight between Aizen and Hitsugaya...?

a sexy penguin

12-14-2005, 04:03 PM

sounds like its going to be like cool episode im downloading it as i type right now

12-14-2005, 04:55 PM

I think I know the real reason why the fight between Ichigo,Renji, and Aizen turned out the way it did. It was because of that darn 80s music with the lady singing in the background. I'm sure Aizen couldn't stand to hear those guitar rifts start up and had to put an end to it.

Lol! Thats one interesting theory you got there :)

I thought Aizen kicked Renji's ass because of his hypnosis ability... Just like the fight between Aizen and Hitsugaya...?

Yes this is true is it not?

animalistic

12-14-2005, 04:59 PM

aizen didnt use his shikai in this fight, becuz in order to use his "complete hypnosis" the opponent needs to see him release his shikai, and ichigo never saw aizen release his shikai + it was pretty obvious that all aizen needed was strength and a little speed :p

Ethanol

12-14-2005, 05:32 PM

I think the hypnosis is no longer affecting Renji..because Aizen is kind of surprised that he doesn't obey his commands. I think he just beat him with his pure power and skill that he has.

12-14-2005, 05:36 PM

I think the hypnosis will be always in effect (for renji). I thought all you need to do is see his sword and be doomed to his hypnosis. Do you really know what it looks like released?

On Hypnosis, I guess Aizen cant control his victims but more like control them indirectly to favor him.

E-LinK

12-14-2005, 06:09 PM

But if he really didn't use shikai, he overpowers Byakuya, Ichgo, etc. by far (their eyes couldn't even catch up with his speed...)!

Ethanol

12-14-2005, 06:19 PM

I think everyone is going to really be freaked out when we find out what his Bankai is. This is going to be some veryy interesting ability.

animalistic

12-14-2005, 06:22 PM

But if he really didn't use shikai, he overpowers Byakuya, Ichgo, etc. by far (their eyes couldn't even catch up with his speed...)!
hehe its not a prob of just speed, its the huge power/strength gap, i mean imagine a bankai stopped wit a finger!!

yar

12-14-2005, 07:10 PM

yes, and that also shows the huge gap in reiatsu. Bankai stopped with one finger without the finger getting scratched is huge gap in spirit pressure.

General Cox

12-14-2005, 07:39 PM

lol, one minute ban kai is soooo uber and the next it seems pitiful

if your going to be honest about it, ichigo was still rather beat up, he still wouldnt have been able to touch aizen but maybe put up more of a fight. But i guess this is going back to the zaraki fight, ichigo'd reoatsu isnt 'sharp' enough to cut aizen, like it wasnt sharp enough to cut zaraki at the start.

Ace

12-14-2005, 09:19 PM

Lol its official. Muyuri is gay.(He is short and blue hair)
Man that fox looked like one angry dude. My god!

100 POST!!!

Domokun

12-14-2005, 09:23 PM

Is it just me or did Komamura grow like 5 sizes larger when he attacked Aizen?

Injektilo

12-14-2005, 09:57 PM

That's because his Shikai ability is to conjure a humongous hand with a sword in it and then his Bankai is to summon an entire immense guy. That's why the theory is that he's a Red Wolf (Neither a wolf or a fox in truth) since they tap the ground so that their prey runs from it's burrows or something and then pounce, so they use the paws and then the entire body, kinda mirroring his Shikai/Bankai relationship.

Anil

12-14-2005, 10:12 PM

Right...

btw... Since ichigo stopped Aizen's sword while it was unsheathed it is perfectly logical that he used his shikai without us knowing... as we are seeing the extent of Aizen's ability from Ichigo's point-of-view... Whether or not he actually used his shikai is up to debate but I for one believe that he did....

WAHCHING

12-14-2005, 11:01 PM

sorry i didt do this weeks thread or either next weeks to come, have finals coming up so i gotta study.

Tami

12-14-2005, 11:29 PM

But if he really didn't use shikai, he overpowers Byakuya, Ichgo, etc. by far (their eyes couldn't even catch up with his speed...)!
Well, Ichigo was still tired from his fight with Byakuya. Even in that fight he was getting tired, and his speed was decreasing. It'll be different once he's healed again I think.

My question is, why hasn't Inoue healed him already? They can't have honestly thought they were out of the woods. :/

JAMmaster

12-14-2005, 11:31 PM

Tami

12-14-2005, 11:35 PM

Don't forget that if you have achieved Bankai then you have the ability to go Shikai without chanting (as seen in episode 50 by Renji). So Aizen could've done it without anyone knowing. Also...

SPOILERS
About Rukia having the power of mastering all four Shinigami arts by becoming a Hollow, isn't that what Ichigo has? Maybe Kiske used a technique to give that power to Ichigo when he got back all his powers. Man, it would be so cool if Ichigo goes Hollow on Aizen, but this time knowing how to do it. Or maybe if Rukia goes Hollow and beats everyone.
I'm not sure Rukia has the power itself, but rather the power is stored in her. Why would Aizen want her if it was her power to use?

I get the impression that Ichigo doesn't like it when he goes hollow, because he begins to lose control over himself. Who knows what hollow Ichigo will do?

12-14-2005, 11:41 PM

Well, Ichigo was still tired from his fight with Byakuya. Even in that fight he was getting tired, and his speed was decreasing. It'll be different once he's healed again I think.

My question is, why hasn't Inoue healed him already? They can't have honestly thought they were out of the woods. :/

I believe that once you see Aizen's sword, you are doomed and Ichigo did not perfect his Bankai. He mopped the floor on Hitsugaya, it should be no problem on the rest :)

Boko

12-14-2005, 11:53 PM

About the special hollow power in rukia i think the thing was transfered to Ichigo when he took/borrowed Rukias powers

Domokun

12-14-2005, 11:56 PM

Ti1301

12-14-2005, 11:57 PM

12-15-2005, 12:02 AM

Awesome, I did not know that. :)
Info on Komamura
In the manga, someone explains that your size of your zanpakutou is base off your reiatsu (Hopefully this is correct cause I barely remember now :x). Captains surpress this cause it would be obviously be ridiculous to hold huge swords.

General Cox

12-15-2005, 12:12 AM

About the special hollow power in rukia i think the thing was transfered to Ichigo when he took/borrowed Rukias powers

this point was discussed in the manga forums somewhere, but ichigo took her shinigami powers. The special thingy (that i cannot spell) was put inside her when she was put into the gigai, which was after ichigo took her powers, meaning that no the power was not transferred to ichigo

the big fox guy's name is konamura and is 7th division captain, so join my division :p

Tami

12-15-2005, 12:16 AM

see preview on episode 61.
=P
Oh, I know she will in that episode, but I wonder why she hasn't.

jonat3

12-15-2005, 12:17 AM

Actually, Urahara placed it before rukia met Ichigo. It's this sentence that suggests this:

Aizen:"When i discovered this, you had alreay gone missing in the humanworld."

Aizen discovered the hougyoku was in rukia, not BECAUSE she went missing. He discovered first that it was hidden in rukia and THEN he discovered she was missing. In that order.

Byakuya7

12-15-2005, 12:35 AM

http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11345868925722au.jpg

Next week is a double episode. There wont be a new episode until January 10 after that. The link also hints toward there not being a bleach filler arc. There may still be one though, but I heard it was subject to change.

Kyouka Suigetsu

12-15-2005, 12:36 AM

About the Komamura theory, I agree. A red fox is the hybrid created when a gray wolf and red fox have children. I guess that's what he is...

Nood

12-15-2005, 12:40 AM

Interesting episode, it only made me "hungry" for the next.
I wonder if Aizen used shikai againstIchigo/zabimaru's attack or he is just that powerful.
But i really disliked this stuff putting into Rukia's gigai (tats sounds funny) it looks so "aftermade".
Anyway, why did the fox guy became so huge? Im not talking about the hand and the sword, but the guy was like 2×aizen in height and about 8× him in weight. When he was with tousen he wasnt that tall and huge.
Also, wtf is up with Ichigo. He got all that beat up by byakuya and now cutted in halves by Aizen and hes still in Bankai. Also he was still in bankai when the guys started to bring him down.
Its permanent for him or wtf, he shouldnt have enough energy to stand...but he can maintain bankai (what prevoriously cracked all of hes bones just by using it and now it doesnt have that effect).
I loved the way how Aizen owned Zabimaru :D
And i hate the thing that Ukitake and Shunsui are all that beated and we didnt get to see 1 moment of the fight...

Oh, and as sidenotes:
Matsumoto's boobs starts to gets disgustingly huge.
No bleach until January isnt a happy christmas.

Kyouka Suigetsu

12-15-2005, 12:54 AM

Aizen is just that powerful. He really didn't do anything to Renji which suggested the use of his shikai. All he did was block Zabimaru, grab it bare-handed, and rip it apart. The damage was real so what we saw him do was probably consistent with what actually happened. Yeah, I don't know what's going on with Ichigo's bankai either. It should've reverted back to its meat cleaver form.

Jedi28

12-15-2005, 01:09 AM

When Byakuya beat up Renji and Renji's bankai disappeared Byakuya mentioned that the disappearance of someone's bankai against their will meant they were close to death. Apparently Ichigo isn't close to death. He should BE dead but then again Ichigo is Ichigo. The fact that his bankai didn't disappear shows how strong he is I guess.

sorry i didt do this weeks thread or either next weeks to come, have finals coming up so i gotta study.

I was wondering where you went. Good luck on your finals! :)

Ti1301

12-15-2005, 01:10 AM

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Oh, and as sidenotes:
Matsumoto's boobs starts to gets disgustingly huge.
No bleach until January isnt a happy christmas.
You mean like in here?
http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11345868925722au.jpg
I'm not complaining. =P

ashrak

12-15-2005, 01:21 AM

WOW.. what and ending :) remindied me of a father finding out that his son was being bad lol Wonder what Kenpachi will make of it all.......

contigo

12-15-2005, 01:59 AM

If you listen/read Aizen's words carefully, you that he told renji his shikai would not be affective with his body like that ( still messed up from thet fight with byakuya)
That would problaly mean that Ichigo's bankai wouldn't have been as strong as before cause he was even more messed up than Renje right??

The moment he says this is about 9 min into the episode

rafdraft

12-15-2005, 02:26 AM

Nice analogy, hes far from near death. the fact that his bankai still there; i am looking forward for the next encounter between aizen and ichigo its going to be awesome from thereon

When Byakuya beat up Renji and Renji's bankai disappeared Byakuya mentioned that the disappearance of someone's bankai against their will meant they were close to death. Apparently Ichigo isn't close to death. He should BE dead but then again Ichigo is Ichigo. The fact that his bankai didn't disappear shows how strong he is I guess.

I was wondering where you went. Good luck on your finals! :)

ChronoTrigga

12-15-2005, 02:29 AM

Actually, Urahara placed it in Rukia AFTER she met Ichigo, when she gave him all of her powers. Read the manga. :)

Jedi28

12-15-2005, 02:32 AM

I was actually really confused by all that. The way I understood it was that he placed it in her body before Ichigo but then he stuck her in the faux body after Ichigo and that would somehow fix it eventually so the thing would be forever destroyed? You have to wonder how he got it there in the first place without her knowing about it.

jonat3

12-15-2005, 02:37 AM

Actually, Urahara placed it in Rukia AFTER she met Ichigo, when she gave him all of her powers. Read the manga. :)

The manga has the same explanation as the anime. The sentence was the same too:

Chapter 175

Aizen: "By the time i discovered this, you had already gone missing in the real world."

It's this sentence that heavily suggests that Urahara placed the hougyoku BEFORE rukia met Ichigo. Both anime and manga state the same.

Jedi28

12-15-2005, 02:51 AM

Yeah, I think Urahara couldn't take the thing with him when he was banished (don't know why) so he hid it in Rukia before he left (somehow without her noticing?) Aizen spent years trying to figure out what Urahara had done with it and when he finally found out Rukia had gone missing. Why though did Urahara stick Rukia in that particular faux body? I thought it was supposed to eventually cause the destruction of the thing but I never quite understood it.

I heard a rumor that next week might be a double episode? That'll be cool, there's a lot of stuff that's going to be happening plus three scenes that I'm REALLY looking forward to. :)

Injektilo

12-15-2005, 02:56 AM

Incidentally, although this seems kind of random, it was just a thought that occured to me: During Ichigo's fight with Byakuya when Ichigo first moved at his hyper-speed, Byakuya's eyes were focused on Ichigo and yet the speed was still too great for him to follow. Yet when Ichigo rushed to parry Aizen's attack, Ichimaru noticed him and "let him pass" inferring that Gin, at least, feels that he could have prevented Ichigo from interfering (I know that anime villains tend to overestimate their own capabilities, but still...)

I'm just wondering if Ichimaru hasn't shown us the full extent of his powers yet, it makes sense that Aizen would choose someone with at least the potential for great strength as his chief subordinate. According to the Wikipedia Aizen chose Gin because of his extreme potential but I haven't seen mention of this in either the Manga or the anime, is this supposition?

Or possibly I'm reading way too much into a couple of lines in the latest episode, but meh... :redbiggri

jonat3

12-15-2005, 02:57 AM

Yeah, heard that rumor too. Rumor also stated that there would be no bleach the week after the double ep.

Anyways, turning rukia into a human was necesary, because it would hide the hougyoku forever. Rukia was still recognizable by her red reiraku. I reckon the hellmoth recognized rukia through the red reiraku and notified SS.

Amu

12-15-2005, 03:00 AM

Bleach 61 screencaps and summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2005/12/13/bleach-61/)

Renji and Ichigo fight Aizen, both get completely owned, Aizen then explains his goals, and then is attacked by 7th Division Captain (forgot his name)

His name is "the fox guy" a.k.a !Komamura Sajin!

Singhay

12-15-2005, 03:14 AM

Is it possible that Byakuya knew Rukia had the thingy inside her soul and thats why he allowed her to be killed? Same with everyone else like the General?

Zangetsu Tensa

12-15-2005, 04:19 AM

His name is "the fox guy" a.k.a !Komamura Sajin!
Holy shit your sig is HUGE.

Jedi28

12-15-2005, 04:22 AM

Is it possible that Byakuya knew Rukia had the thingy inside her soul and thats why he allowed her to be killed? Same with everyone else like the General?

We actually do find out Byakuya's reasons for allowing the execution (in more depth than what was told to Ichigo). I imagine it'll be in episode 62 or 63 at the latest.

vittorio301

12-15-2005, 07:08 AM

all this is confusing..I need to watch the EP again. BUt that was sooo sweet that Aizen blocked Ichigos bankai sword with one finger. I was like WFT! I hope next weeks is a double ep so they can make up for the week they didnt air bleach. Im gonna read the manga so I can get a better understanding and then watch the ep again.

AyuTrance

12-15-2005, 07:09 AM

Wabisuke got owned by Haineko rite?
didn't get to see what happened..zzz

Hits

12-15-2005, 07:11 AM

Wabisuke got owned by Haineko rite?
didn't get to see what happened..zzz
Ya, Matsumoto owned him! She's a baaddddass just like SoiFong and Yoruichi! She is now on my list of badasses! WOOO

This anime episode portrayed Aizen's power a lot better then the anime did....he stoppe Ichio baaadddasss Bankai and deflected back to him with the tip of his finger.

He pounded the fox guy and his bankai with a kidoh

animalistic

12-15-2005, 07:20 AM

even if it was a double ep it wont really make up for anythin cuz we wont have bleach the weak after a double ep. if there was gonna be a double ep then they wouldve said so at the end of the ep so i doubt that there would be 2 eps next week

Hits

12-15-2005, 07:45 AM

Will the double episodes be the end to the SS arc and Ichigo and friends returning to normal world?

Vin-San

12-15-2005, 08:09 AM

Freakin' awesome episode. Lots of explanation on characters (especially sandal hat). Can't wait for the next 'sodes! Man...now I want to read the manga but I'm trying to resist, lol.

ChronoTrigga

12-15-2005, 10:05 AM

On the topic of Rukia. You do notice that she's kneeling down in the white robe (which she got after Ichigo took all her powers) and then Urahara asks her if she needs a gigai (aka faux body)...the one he made from soul society before he left, and placed it in the gigai which her soul soon inhabited....:)

Kune

12-15-2005, 10:05 AM

Allright, for those who need clarification on Urahara's reasons for sticking Rukia in a Gigai, I'll fill you in. Shinigami can only spend so much time in a Gigai before their power starts to deteriorate. They will lose connection with the Gigai, and in a way, they will die. I think the big factor in it is the deterioration that happens. It would cause Rukia to lose her Shinigami powers and, for a short time before her faux body probably gave out, make her human. Since Sougyou is based on turning Shinigami into Hollows, maybe it could not survive in a regular Pluse soul.

captain_soifon

12-15-2005, 01:26 PM

was it just me or was shunsui not wearing his pink shirt

Kuchiki-Sama

12-15-2005, 03:05 PM

Thaliel

12-15-2005, 03:54 PM

I didn't like the fact you could see Mayuri naked and without his mask. Now hundreds of stupid fangirls will appear and form a Mayuri-fanclub though he's such a bastard...

They're coming, I tell you! The fangirls, there's too much of them! The end is near! O__O

Btw, does anyone here hate Aizen as much as I do?

Yes, I do! *raises hand* He needs a kick into his you-know-whats .
Yeah, Mayuri naked and looking human was...interesting, somehiw, I never really thought he even WAS human, I though he always looked like that.
Oh and is it just me or did Komamura increase his size all of a sudden, cuz he looked so huuuuuge at the end of the episode, I don't remember recognizing that he was so immensely huge.

Offtopic: Grüss dich, Kuchiki-sama ^.^

ChronoTrigga

12-15-2005, 03:54 PM

Btw, does anyone here hate Aizen as much as I do?

You just can't appreciated the badassedness that which is Aizen. He is one of the most devious anime villians I've ever witnessed. But he's still nothing compared to Kefka from Final Fantasy 3 :)

Draffut

12-15-2005, 04:04 PM

Nothing compares to Kefka. But Aizen is a great villian regardless.

vision33r

12-15-2005, 05:19 PM

Ya, Matsumoto owned him! She's a baaddddass just like SoiFong and Yoruichi! She is now on my list of badasses! WOOO

This anime episode portrayed Aizen's power a lot better then the anime did....he stoppe Ichio baaadddasss Bankai and deflected back to him with the tip of his finger.

He pounded the fox guy and his bankai with a kidoh

What most likely happened is that Kira didn't meant to hurt Matsumoto. He was probably told to create a diversion to get Hitsugaya away and delay him. Remember, when he heard that Hinamori was murdered, even he couldn't believe they would do that. He still has some good in him.

AyuTrance

12-15-2005, 05:47 PM

I doubt Kira can win against Rangiku anyway. Haineko is a formless shikai. Something which Wabisuke couldn't touch to increase the weight. But yeah...Kira definitely was used. Him being loyal to Gin and believing that Aizen would spare Hinamori.

I think Aizen is too overpowered...it's just not fun watching his fights. Ends too quickly without much to watch. >_>

Firefight

12-15-2005, 07:42 PM

In the preview of ep62

We see a moment of Gin brushing away some stuff flying around in the air...

Could it be the Fox guy got chopped to pieces and those were his fur flying around?

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Nah those were probably dusts and stuff...

Nood

12-15-2005, 08:29 PM

Hate Aizen? He is da best :D
MY newest fav character in Bleach :D
Hes not that show offy idiot villain who flexes hes muscles and playes around for 5 hours with even the weakest enemies. He finishes them the fastest, and easiest way, and i love characters who use logic. :D

Dounick

12-15-2005, 08:41 PM

i didnt really get to finish it but i only watched rounf half of it

Genjoumoonfang

12-15-2005, 08:43 PM

ok if Sandal Hat made that thing and put it in Rukia and ichigo took all of rukias powers....
Son of a purple monkey... Ichi has the crazy thing in him

you know compared to Aizen... Byakuya aint half bad.. Also i wonder if Yama-ji will end his little duel and beat Aizen silly!!

Nood

12-15-2005, 09:02 PM

ok if Sandal Hat made that thing and put it in Rukia and ichigo took all of rukias powers....
Son of a purple monkey... Ichi has the crazy thing in him
Its in Rukia's soul if i get it right...and Ichigo didnt took Rukia's soul.

Genjoumoonfang

12-15-2005, 09:03 PM

yah i messed up
I guess i should have read the whole thread

cookieMONSTA

12-16-2005, 12:58 AM

did Aizen used flash step or was it just his normal speed?

damn that Aizen! he's pulling Rukia like a dog.

i'll kill him with my bare hands. >:]

Enoch

12-16-2005, 03:33 AM

Not sure this is the right plce but what the hell is the DatteBOING version...its on AnimeSuki and im confused.

sasuke

12-16-2005, 03:36 AM

DANM AIZEN OOO THAT BASTERED MUST DIE! anyway i think their were more than the thing uhara made cuz the othere ichigo took over ichi and it was the combination of hallow and shingami aizen was talking about so maybe when ichi was doin the thing to get hes shinigami powers back uhara did the thing on ichigo for the hollow combination thing

sasuke

12-16-2005, 03:36 AM

koreasamurai

12-16-2005, 04:11 AM

bleach is always suprising me thats for sure. I mean they make ppl think that urahara is now actually the evil person. And this might b off topic but they should make something higher than a bankai so ichigo can win :b a trikai?

sasuke

12-16-2005, 06:35 AM

tue but as always theirs something higher in this case theirs 2 things the halow and shinigami thing and their gona add some othere thing eventualy but uhara is good and i think their were more that one of those things he made the one ichigo has and the one rukia has uhara is good thats my opinion what he does he always does it for a good reason witch eventualy is good like when ichigo send menos grandes back

Trinthakis

12-16-2005, 08:29 AM

Just on the topic of when the Hougyoku got hiden inside Rukia's soul, I have a strong feeling that it was earlier before she meet Ichigo because in the first ep at around 14:44 (of the lunar sub anyway) she goes on to say that she is unable to sence the hollows because some huge power is hindering her senses. Well is it possible that this power is the Hougyoku?

But in the end it doesn't matter as we will find out at one point when we learn how Ichigo became the half hollow thing.

vittorio301

12-16-2005, 03:09 PM

that huge spirit is Ichigos..that was what she was referrin to.

Draffut

12-16-2005, 04:08 PM

This anime episode portrayed Aizen's power a lot better then the anime did....he stoppe Ichio baaadddasss Bankai and deflected back to him with the tip of his finger.
What portrayed it better then what? I am sure one of those is asposed to be manga, but i dont know which one.

DANM AIZEN OOO THAT BASTERED MUST DIE! anyway i think their were more than the thing uhara made cuz the othere ichigo took over ichi and it was the combination of hallow and shingami aizen was talking about so maybe when ichi was doin the thing to get hes shinigami powers back uhara did the thing on ichigo for the hollow combination thing
For the love of god man, use punctuation and grammar. I think my brain melted from trying to read those two posts of yours.

Anyhow. I was 100% disapointed in how Aizen beat Ichigo. I guess it did do what it was ment to, show the large power gap between them. But that whole 1 finger deal was just way to corny and rediculous. Even if he had done something like catch Ichigo's Bankai inbetween two of his fingers, it would have been immensily better.

As for the the hollow thign in Rukia. I thought they said that Urahara had put it in her before he left SS. Then he put her in the Faux body when she came to the human world in an attempt to kill it off once and for all.

But i very well may be wrong.

Oh, and Ichigo did not get that hollow thign threw Rukia no matter when Urahara put it in her. Ichigo only stole her Shinigami abilities, and nothign else. The hollow half of him was created in the basement of Sandal Hat's store in that hole. If this was intentional is unknown right now.

silverwolf801

12-16-2005, 04:43 PM

I wasn't surprised when I saw what happened to ichigo because come on you saw what happened to Hitsugaya it was a heart breaker.

Jedi28

12-16-2005, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Draffut]What portrayed it better then what? I am sure one of those is asposed to be manga, but i dont know which one.

I thought the scene was nearly identical to the Manga. Aizen stops Ichigo with one finger and looks amused, Ichigo looks shocked, and then there's a full page drawing of Ichigo getting slashed. Aizen makes the comment of how odd it is that he made to shallow a cut when he intended to cut him totally in half. What they left out was the fact that Aizen DID cut him from the stomach all the way back to the spine and partly severed his spine making it physically impossible for Ichigo to get up. I have a hard time with that myself because Ichigo should be dead, not conscious and talking to Aizen.

Weird, where'd my post go? It says it's there but when I look it's not there.

Vin-San

12-16-2005, 07:37 PM

Aizen stopped it with one finger, true, but come on. Look at Ichigo, he has two freakin slices through his shoulders. And he's cracked his bones (or did Orihime heal him yet?). I'm sure he couldn't possibly have used his full power/speed on Aizen when they faught.

thepolia

12-16-2005, 07:41 PM

I wasn't surprised when I saw what happened to ichigo because come on you saw what happened to Hitsugaya it was a heart breaker.

Yea exactly... if Aizen could own Hitsugaya& Renji so easily, it wouldn't make sense if Ichigo could defeat him (only because he's the main character)

Vin-San

12-16-2005, 07:47 PM

Yeah, my post disappeared as well. I see it now though. And yeah, it would make sense that Ichigo wouldn't win if he beat hitsu and renji easy. What I want to see is the old guy go against him. We haven't seen much of the old guy yet and I'm sure it'll be a good fight.

Dounick

12-16-2005, 08:01 PM

it was a good episode though, not as good when ichigo fought kenpachi

Kuchiki-Sama

12-16-2005, 11:08 PM

Jet85

12-17-2005, 12:53 AM

it was a good episode though, not as good when ichigo fought kenpachi
Sorry but this episode owns the one with Ichigo vs Kenpachi, the fight against Aizen was so exciting that i had to stand up to watch it
:toocool: Behold Aizen in all of his coolness :toocool:

Dounick

12-17-2005, 12:59 AM

Sorry but this episode owns the one with Ichigo vs Kenpachi, the fight against Aizen was so exciting that i had to stand up to watch it
:toocool: Behold Aizen in all of his coolness :toocool:kenpachi is cooler then aizen

Kyouka Suigetsu

12-17-2005, 01:13 AM

kenpachi is cooler then aizen

SIKE!!!

Kenpachi is cool, but Aizen is the best megalomaniac to come along in a series in awhile. He is actually interesting as an evil character because his motives aren't really clear. Sure, I know his intent is to ascend to the throne of heaven. Why is that though? Does he simply want power or does he feel the universe is unbalanced? He also comments that nobody has ever been able to see who he really is as a person.

mottesheard

12-17-2005, 02:25 AM

@All Manga-Readers: What do you think how many episodes will be made until the anime catches up with the current manga-episodes? Soul Society starts to annoy me. :/

(Sorry for posting it into this thread, I didn't want to start a new one.)

I'm not really sure, as I've heard rumors about a season of fillers, which will extent the gap between the anime and manga a bit further. I will make a guess and say that it will take three more episodes to finish the current story arch.

Jedi28

12-17-2005, 05:33 AM

The next episode is a double episode. From looking at the previews the double episode will end at the perfect point for fillers if they're going to have them. There's supposed to be a week off after that and then, in my opinion, if they're going to have a filler arc it'll start then.

lmegera

12-17-2005, 06:54 AM

Makes sense, since its getting near Christmas. I wish they wouldnt though.

Jedi28

12-17-2005, 07:08 AM

Me too, but there's only so much further they can go before they run out of Manga. Taking a break limits the number of fillers they'd have to do if that's what they decide to do.

lmegera

12-17-2005, 07:17 AM

Err.. there's a lot of manga still left. I can think of a small storyarc and the larger storyarc it contains still left. I wonder who comes up with the fillers.....

_Ink

12-17-2005, 07:17 AM

Hopefully filler arcs can be nice actually, depends on the story telling method.If they can make something like going deep into the characters like we can turn attention to how Kenpachi came to be(one episode) Ichigo's bankai achievement by detail. How youruichi turned away from her position before, how the characters meet (like how did Urahara and Yourichi met, how did Hitsugaya become captain and so on. It would be able to keep the attention, not one of those stupid Karakura heroes thing, which is the most absurd fillers i ever seen.

Jedi28

12-17-2005, 07:22 AM

Err.. there's a lot of manga still left. I can think of a small storyarc and the larger storyarc it contains still left. I wonder who comes up with the fillers.....

I just meant the part of the manga that was going to run out before the new arc starts. Next week looks like it'll go to about 180 or so. The remaining 28 chapters go off on the new arc and I don't think they'd start a filler arc anywhere in there.
They've been doing around three chapters an episode so that means that if they didn't do the filler arc (or a hiatus) it'd take about two months or so to catch up to the Manga BUT by then there'd also be nine more chapters or so written by then. Who knows?? It's fun speculating though. :) :)

lmegera

12-17-2005, 07:22 AM

Those ARE not fillers.
I think what we mean by fillers are the Kurakura SUPER HEROES!!!

Jedi28

12-17-2005, 07:28 AM

Are those even technically fillers? They are in the Manga kinda, they're hinted at in the little sketches on some of the pages. The Anime just embellished them. The only total filler-type episode that I'm aware of is the one with Yuzu and the cat. I STILL don't what the hay that episode was all about. :)

lmegera

12-17-2005, 07:30 AM

Hmm, those fillers just seem to develop the story between Jinta and Yuza (love pairing maybe?) and how useless Don is. I dont see the point to them either.

_Ink

12-17-2005, 07:31 AM

u think maybe they will take those from the colorful bleach series and make them into fillers?

Jedi28

12-17-2005, 07:36 AM

Are those the humor ones? I think they'd be to short but it would be hailarious!! :)

Bankai!!

12-18-2005, 03:19 AM

Jedi28

12-18-2005, 04:10 AM

Sorry, if I'm the only one who DIDN'T know this but did you all know that the Shonen Jump magazine has reportedly confirmed there's going to be a Bleach movie coming out in December of 2006?

ultimate

12-18-2005, 04:20 AM

Sorry, if I'm the only one who DIDN'T know this but did you all know that the Shonen Jump magazine has reportedly confirmed there's going to be a Bleach movie coming out in December of 2006? i knew there was gonna be a bleach movie though i didnt know it was gonna be coming out december 2006... anyway i just watched bleach ep61 yesterday, it was pretty cool, btw when aizen stopped ichigos soul slayer was that hand to hand combat technique that aizen described when he was talking about the different types of shinigami combat and limits?

Jedi28

12-18-2005, 04:27 AM

I don't think so because there wasn't really any combat involved. He just stuck his finger out and whacked poor Ichigo. The four types are footwork (flashstep), Kidou (magic), swordwork, and hand combat. The example in the Anime shown with hand combat is Soi Fong fighting Yourichi.

Offkorn

12-18-2005, 09:02 AM

Yeah, the same thing that happened when he first cut Kenpachi, just happened again.

CrimsonWings

12-18-2005, 02:38 PM

Kyaa. Aiken and Ichimaru taicho must die.. -_-"
Hmm. But i wonder what happens.. =D
Gah. I really should read the manga.. ._.;
Heh. i just noticed i just repeated things.. x_x;
shame on me.. *sigh*

Ravenfdasfd

12-18-2005, 05:14 PM

I would just love it if everybody comes up and fights Tousen,Ichimaru and Aizen.Would be a nice conslusion to the story arc,wouldn't you agree?

thepolia

12-18-2005, 05:30 PM

tAhTsExYBrOwNmAn

12-19-2005, 12:27 AM

I would just love it if everybody comes up and fights Tousen,Ichimaru and Aizen.Would be a nice conslusion to the story arc,wouldn't you agree?

That would be awesome :headbang:

Ichigo13

12-19-2005, 04:59 AM

That would be awesome, Aizen would be stronger then the 1st division captain(name is too long to remmeber) since he unleashed his Hollow side.

Ravenfdasfd

12-19-2005, 03:58 PM

Actually,Aizen hasn't yet.That's why he need Houyouko or what ever it's called.

zetsword

12-19-2005, 05:40 PM

and what's with Mayuri lookin' all humanated

Ravenfdasfd

12-19-2005, 06:10 PM

Remember when he liquified himself? Yeah,he deliquified himself.
Also notice that he has no ears.

Kuchiki-Sama

12-19-2005, 07:04 PM

and what's with Mayuri lookin' all humanated
His black and white "robot" form was only a mask. The blue haired guy we saw in episode 61 is his true form.

Zeke

12-19-2005, 09:04 PM

I can't wait for the new episode =DDD

Aizen and Gin KICK ASS just 2 or 3 more days ;_;

Jedi28

12-20-2005, 02:00 AM

From the previews it looks like it's going to cover A LOT so I hope they don't cut anything important out. There are two scenes in particular and a flashback that are COOL!!!! :)

Quincy123

12-20-2005, 09:50 AM

I was really shock how Aizen owned Ichigo's and Renji. I except Ichigo and Renji to do some damage to Aizen, but it turned out to be an embrassing defeat.

I notice that bleachportal.net hasn't put the ep 60 and 61 up yet, but these episodes are availiable at bsx-media.com. :D

Kodoku

12-20-2005, 02:26 PM

Ichigo and Renji did get their own rear end handed to them on a plate, but remember how recently they got beat up. Ichigo would have lost against Byakuya if Hollow Dude hadn't helped out a bit, and for some reason Orihime hasn't healed him. Renji got even more beaten, even when he came to help at Soukyoku, he took out the masked guys then almost collapsed. I was surprised he managed to run off with Rukia.

Also Aizen is ungodly nasty. He's gone through three captain level people in two episodes!!!

Jedi28

12-20-2005, 03:55 PM

Orihame really couldn't waste time healing Ichigo right there at that point. Remember, at this point they're still wanted and being chased by all Soul Society so staying out in the open wasn't a good idea. It's possible they planned to get Ichigo to a safe, out of the way place and heal him there.

Yeah, and I think even if they'd both been at full health Aizen would have still beat them both.