The Dead Aizen

[Amu]

I was wondering if Aizen can ever die? He Can stop ANY attack by just making you think he did and would come behind or on top of you and kill you!
What do you think?

[Ethanol]

Well...first he would have to release his shikai afront of you for you to fall under comple hypnotism. Until then, he can't trick you into believing anything. Of course, he is still extremly powerful even without that.

[Amu]

Well...first he would have to release his shikai afront of you for you to fall under comple hypnotism. Until then, he can't trick you into believing anything. Of course, he is still extremly powerful even without that.


Bastaldo I hope you know that Aizen has shown everyone his shikai since people were saying that! He is very very very like 1500 years so i am sure he has shown everyone plus the effect NEVER goes anway without his want!

[Ethanol]

Yeah...but Ichigo and the other ryoka never saw the release. So not EVERYONE did see the release. Also, some people are able to differ what is truth and reality...Unohana knew something was up when she examined the dead body.

[Injektilo]

I think that it's likely that the strength of the person dictates how much they are affected by his Shikai, Unohona was able to sense that something was a little off with the corpse and since Bleach conforms to stereotypes typically (Such as Shunsui and Ukitake, the twin sword wielders being very strong and Yama as "The Ancient Master" etc.) it's safe to assume that her being the Wise Healer type would be amongst the strongest of the Captains in terms of pure reiatsu so it makes sense that she'd be able to get some inkling of foul play. Maybe Yama-jii would be able to sense instantly that it was unreal but be utterly unable to do anything about it?

It's an awesome ability, but the fact that Unohona picked up on something funny about it shows that it is flawed and not unbeatable.

[Amu]

Yeah...but Ichigo and the other ryoka never saw the release. So not EVERYONE did see the release. Also, some people are able to differ what is truth and reality...Unohana knew something was up when she examined the dead body.

First, Ichigo has seen it when is blocked is at first and when he got wooped at by it
Second, besides ichigo the other ryoka cannot even touch Aizen


It's an awesome ability, but the fact that Unohona picked up on something funny about it shows that it is flawed and not unbeatable.

True, but Unohona only sensed something. Is is unlikely see would be able to clearly see Aizen when hypo is on so
Plus Aizen has Bankai! Aizen also has Gin, Tousen, and mayuri won't interfere

I am still unsure but Aizen seems too strong. The worst part is we won't be able to know since a FREAKING 22 FILLER ARC IS coming in like 2 eps :(

[Jedi28]

Well, technically Ichigo can't touch Aizen either. :) He certainly GETS touched but only by the sword. Another random point is I think Aizen DID technically die at one point or how else did he get in Soul Society? They need to find out how he got killed originally and try to repeat it. He should have had the same amount of spirit power when he was alive on Earth and I imagine he would have been able to use it AND would have been just as evil. At one point he's asked how long he'd been planning everything and he replies something along the lines that he joined the Shinigami with the plan already in mind.

[Amu]

Well, technically Ichigo can't touch Aizen either. :) He certainly GETS touched but only by the sword. Another random point is I think Aizen DID technically die at one point or how else did he get in Soul Society? They need to find out how he got killed originally and try to repeat it. He should have had the same amount of spirit power when he was alive on Earth and I imagine he would have been able to use it AND would have been just as evil. At one point he's asked how long he'd been planning everything and he replies something along the lines that he joined the Shinigami with the plan already in mind.

Jedi Is power increased AFTER HE DIED!!! HE GOT bankai after he died!
He has been mastering shit AFTER he died and he is much older then after he died and also and also spirit power is limited in the real world

and for fun...AFTER he died

[RedIceRing]

First, Ichigo has seen it when is blocked is at first and when he got wooped at by it
Second, besides ichigo the other ryoka cannot even touch Aizen:(

He never released his Shikai infront of Ichigo...he was just whipping him around with his unreleased soul slayer...which just shows you how ridiculously powerful Aizen is. I personally don't believe any of the Ryoka have seen his release yet, otherwise, when Ichigo first came Aizen would have said something like "Shatter, Kyouka Suigetsu." He never said it originally when he was owning Renji either. I know his Shikai supposively looks like a regular sword...only supposively because everyone who sees it is hypnotised in the first place...but I still believe that Ichigo has not been hypnotized by Aizen....yet.

[Amu]

He never released his Shikai infront of Ichigo...he was just whipping him around with his unreleased soul slayer...which just shows you how ridiculously powerful Aizen is. I personally don't believe any of the Ryoka have seen his release yet, otherwise, when Ichigo first came Aizen would have said something like "Shatter, Kyouka Suigetsu." He never said it originally when he was owning Renji either. I know his Shikai supposively looks like a regular sword...only supposively because everyone who sees it is hypnotised in the first place...but I still believe that Ichigo has not been hypnotized by Aizen....yet.

uhh...ichigo and renji saw his shikai when he said SHIKAI!! in ep. 61 when he was blocking renji's attack
AND HIS SOUL slayer does not "shatter" that is only matsumoto and byakuya

[Sandal Hat]

@Amu- What is your native languqage?

First, Ichigo has seen it when is blocked is at first and when he got wooped at by it

Aizen's swords is not his release. Ichigo has not seen Aizen's release, he just got pwned.


True, but Unohona only sensed something. Is is unlikely see would be able to clearly see Aizen when hypo is on so
Plus Aizen has Bankai! Aizen also has Gin, Tousen, and mayuri won't interfere

What are you going on about?

I am still unsure but Aizen seems too strong. The worst part is we won't be able to know since a FREAKING 22 FILLER ARC IS coming in like 2 eps :( Another random point is I think Aizen DID technically die at one point or how else did he get in Soul Society?
Ofcourse

They need to find out how he got killed originally and try to repeat it. He should have had the same amount of spirit power when he was alive on Earth and I imagine he would have been able to use it AND would have been just as evil.
This doesn't make any sense.

1. Your spiritual power on Earth isn't the spiritual power you have once you die and become a spirit in Soul Society

2. He didn't acquire the abilities he has now until he became a Death God which means he had to die first

3. He obviously had to be a good soul on Earth or he would have been sent to Hell. Hollows are the exception.

At one point he's asked how long he'd been planning everything and he replies something along the lines that he joined the Shinigami with the plan already in mind.
Edit: I forgot to mention that nobody is under his hypnosis anymore because he sealed it. "Break Down, Kyoukasuigetsu(sp)" is his chant for stopping the hypnosis.

[RedIceRing]

uhh...ichigo and renji saw his shikai when he said SHIKAI!! in ep. 61 when he was blocking renji's attack
AND HIS SOUL slayer does not "shatter" that is only matsumoto and byakuya

...Thats "Scatter!, Senbon Zakura" for Byakuya and "Growl!, Haineko" for Matsumoto...I'll go check back on Episode 61, I might have made a mistake there.

[Polygon]

It'd actually make a ton more sense if Aizen was a noble.

[Ethanol]

Ok...didn't see all what Sandal Hat wrote. Now it makes sense why Renji wasn't under control, he stopped the ability.

Thanks SH!

[Sandal Hat]

@Bastaldo-nvm

@Octogon- Yeah, Aizen being a noble would make a lot more sense.

Also, once you obtain bankai you can perform your shikai without saying its name.

[RedIceRing]

:p: I rewatched the episode and he says "Shikai?" as in does renji honestly think that shikai will defeat him. Also, I don't recall anyone ever releasing their sword by saying shikai, normally they say the sword's name.

So, I believe Ichigo still isn't under Aizen's control. Renji, I'm not quite sure because he openly was against Aizen so how come the hypnotism didn't make him give Rukia away? I believe there is a way to bypass Aizen's hypnotism and hopefully we will find out...eventually.

I think it might just be that it allows him to make people see what he wants them to see...not necessarily control peoples minds, because why didn't he just hypnotize Renji, Kira, and Hinamori in the first place to be his servants? He said Renji was too dangerous because he is not as easily manipulated as the other two. Hinamori was too attached to Aizen that there would be no need of hypnotism in the "mind-control" regard and Kira was described as EXTREMELY loyal. Thats quite possibly why they were easily moved like pawns. I initially thought about this predicament too, until I saw Kira say "He promised not to hurt Hinamori," which means he was aware, at least to a degree, of Aizen's(maybe Gin-either one he was referring to) plans. Until now, I thought Kira was under Kyouka Suigetsu's wrath too...which utterly confused me. Otherwise, Aizen could have just Hypnotized the entire 46 to do his bidding by sneaking in and releasing his Shikai, rather than murdering them all.

Err sry, I must have skipped over Sandal Hats explanation....whoopsss

[Amu]

Who said Aizen murdered 46! It was his underlings probably

[IaMTALLw]

very confusing well aizen is mad lucky to get that sword speaking of soulslayers with messed up effects let me bring up which other 1s are unbelievably rigged
that guy who thinks hes beautiful his shikai "drains" energy doesn't explain how
soi fon- 2 hits same spot dead how exact does it have to be tho
tousen makes every1 inside his circle shit lose all senses xcept for feel oh and btw hes a fukin retard he shouldn't have moved close to zaraki he should have just thrown his fukin swords at him again

[Ti1301]

Tousen can kill him.
Banki STYLE.
But he has to be brave and smart.
Bankai and head CHOP!

[tAhTsExYBrOwNmAn]

Tousen can kill him.
Banki STYLE.
But he has to be brave and smart.
Bankai and head CHOP!

I never thought about that, but it could be possible for Aizen to do something similar to what Zaraki Kenpachi did.

[AltoK]

Aizen sure is killable : you depress him with very nasty words in order for him to commit suicide ? (just kidding).

He sure wouldn't be easy to kill, but there's always someone stronger than you.
Let's say, Balancers ?

Maybe all captains have Ban Kai, but if Aizen can create illusions, he could have made a fake Ban Kai.
But, in that case, he couldn't be able to release his Shi Kai chantlessly, and hypnotizing the whole SS would have been truly harder.
*confused*
Forget it, he must have Ban Kai.