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Byakuya7
12-16-2005, 01:05 AM
What if Ichigo at full health and full strength, with the hollow transformation took on aizen at sokyoku hill? How do you think he would last against aizen, because that hollow form seems pretty crazy. I think he would end up losing, but I dont think he would get owned as badly as he did in ep. 61.

astrallite
12-16-2005, 01:45 AM
What if Ichigo was on combat drugs? He'd also end up losing badly, but less owned.

noraa
12-16-2005, 01:46 AM
the results would be the same. ichigo would die because even if ichigo masters his hollow he will only be equal to a vastorode arrankar(or however the **** you spell it), and aizen is the leader of the arrancars. ichigo isn't even at ulquiorra or grim's level...

yar
12-16-2005, 01:48 AM
ichigo will still die the same way...

astrallite
12-16-2005, 01:50 AM
So in other words, the entirety of the Shinigami are already outdated and outclassed. They've all suddenly become the coast guard.

AKA-DBZitis

SmallKid57
12-16-2005, 02:01 AM
ichigo would get owned like no tomorrow...

Amu
12-16-2005, 02:40 AM
Ichigo would woop Aizen with hollow! Because...aizen said strength goes mental when shinigami become hollow

I am joking actually! I don't know
Aizen will probably kill Ichigo

RedIceRing
12-16-2005, 05:54 AM
the results would be the same. ichigo would die because even if ichigo masters his hollow he will only be equal to a vastorode arrankar(or however the **** you spell it), and aizen is the leader of the arrancars. ichigo isn't even at ulquiorra or grim's level...

He said HOLLOW Ichigo...thats key because Ulquiorra said that Ichigo's reiatsu spikes up and down when he is trying to fight off the hollow from taking over. Ulquiorra would probably get his ass handed to him on a silver platter with french fried potatoes against Hollow Ichigo. Ulquiorra even stated that when Ichigos reiatsu spikes up(b/c of the hollow), it is stronger than him. However, regular Ichigo is still no match.

Well this depends...current Hollow Ichigo or the eventual Hollow Ichigo we know will master the power and learn how to harness it productively. Current Hollow Ichigo would easily lose to Aizen...he's the main baddie...but we all know Ichigo will win in the end...afterall, this is a tv show.

Lethe
12-16-2005, 06:12 AM
hah, ditto that :D

brolijc
12-16-2005, 12:40 PM
hollow Ichigo isn't as great as you think, if he was all so great, just use him and beat Aizen, so the answer is, no, even with hollow Ichigo, full health, full stamina, he will get pawned, perharps even worse since he will simply charge up to Aizen

_Ink
12-16-2005, 01:01 PM
i think it greatly depends on who has the upper power and cooler head.
I doubt Ichigo Hollow form would have a cooler head nor more power than Aizen since he leads the bunch.
That is counting from what he said, he appears to have the power to rule all hollows, meaning his powers is undeniable. This proves that no matter who and how, Ichigo will surely get owned. Unless....he is rigged

XNightNinjaX
12-16-2005, 07:19 PM
I think ichigo would win.

the454casull
12-16-2005, 10:55 PM
ok, even if he was at full strength and full health (lol, kina sounds like a video game, huh?) I'd have to say Ichigo would most likely be beaten by Aizen. The reason is because Ichigo is still far too resistant to his alter ego ( I won't say hollow, because I still don't think he's a hollow) so Ichigo would be taken over by "alter Ichigo" and start fighting, probably doing well to begin with, but Ichigo would start putting up a resistance from within, damaging "alter" Ichigo's power, and causing a major distraction for him. in a sword fight with someone as experienced as Aizen, the slightest slip up would most likely be the end of the fight.

Ryoko
12-17-2005, 11:07 PM
I think its all about Mastery, Aizen at this point in time wins Hands down. I dont think that Ichigo is gonna need a Hollow side towards the End ... Actually it seems to me like the Hollow side is probobally gonna go bai bai sooner or later and Ichigos gonna absorb all the alter Ichigos power and he will be one stable bad ass Shinigami. It seems that Ichigo has 2 power levels that of his own and then his alters So if both combined at the same time Just maybe ^_^ he could puss something off

Jedi28
12-17-2005, 11:20 PM
I think Aizen would start drooling at the sight of a person who represents what he's been trying to acheive (perfect blending of a Hollow and a Shinigami) and would kick the snot out of him so he could then run experiments to see how it happened to Ichigo and how he could copy it.

Dounick
12-17-2005, 11:31 PM
so ichigo is reallly weak compared ot azien?

Ravenfdasfd
12-17-2005, 11:34 PM
Let's put it this way.

Currently Aizen = God and Ichigo = ant.

Jedi28
12-18-2005, 12:22 AM
According to Aizen it's worse than that even.

Aizen=god
Ichigo=speck of dust
:)

Dounick
12-18-2005, 12:30 AM
oh ok thats somewhat comforting, could the Captain of the first division stand up against Azien?

Nood
12-18-2005, 12:40 AM
Aizen would have to use hes zanpakuto to stop the attack and than slash him.
That would be the only diffrence i could see. :)

Dounick
12-18-2005, 12:44 AM
wow your siggy is trippy but i asked who would win? the old guy or azien?

Jedi28
12-18-2005, 02:12 AM
There's an entire thread dedicated to that topic in the general Bleach topic forum.

MacTAnzu
12-18-2005, 02:15 AM
Hmm.. Odd thougths u guys have here.
This after all IS anime serie where in the end the good always wins.
And after all it should be clear that mixing Hollow&Shinigami gets u stronger compared to normal shinigamis, and ichigo even without that OBIVOUSLY has extra ordinary talents to learn & grow in short time. So Ichigo vs Aizen, both in full strength would end up Ichigo owning aizen so bad it would hurt ;) Ofc there is possibility that ichigo will loose but then some one else should take care of Aizen, Maybe that gramps guy ? =) And even then Ichigo would recover and get more stronger etc. cause Ichigo after all is gona be propably the most strongest person in this serie? My guess at least...

Sunfire249
12-18-2005, 02:23 AM
Hmm, I doubt that ichigo would actually win. I mean, for one thing that defenitly wouldn't advance the plot, and another thing if he in his bankai form couldn't even stand against Byakuya (Even though he did last for awhile) when he did his bankai, then I doubt he would stand against aizen.

Ichigo Soul Slayer
12-18-2005, 02:25 AM
I really wish Ichigo'd get to the point where he can summon the Hollow whenever. >_>;

Ryoko
12-18-2005, 02:31 AM
The reason Ichigo couldnt stand up to byak in Bankai form was because Ichigos own power was A at its base and B so powerful he was crushing himself to death due to the pressure he was releasing.

Z_Blitz
12-18-2005, 02:36 AM
Given the current battle levels of each, I'd say Ichigo would get his butt kicked royally... With or without his hollow-side interferring... Aizen's power is God-like, Ichigo is still in the training phase... I mean he barely took on Byakuya, and Byakuya is just another captain of the gotei 13... Aizen took on Komamura in 2 seconds I'm not saying though that Ichigo won't land a hit on him, because he probably will if Aizen underestimates him, but once Aizen releases its shikai its game over for Ichigo... Besides thats only Aizen's shikai! What if he releases his bankai?! Aizen would own Ichigo without a doubt!

lordoftheleech
12-18-2005, 08:47 AM
I think Aizen would start drooling at the sight of a person who represents what he's been trying to acheive (perfect blending of a Hollow and a Shinigami) and would kick the snot out of him so he could then run experiments to see how it happened to Ichigo and how he could copy it.

i dont think aizen is like mayuri tho...lol.

i think hollow ichigo will still lose.remember aizen's zanpakuto ability.once hypnotised,ichigo would be treated with like,an immortal enemy.if ichigo ties a bandage over his eyes and fights by sensing reiatsu...he may have a chance...or not

Ravenfdasfd
12-18-2005, 01:23 PM
Problem is that Aizen Shikai isn't even released at the moment.He resealed it while he was talking to Unohana and Isane in Central 46.So basicly this is Aizen's BASE power...

Yes,we know Ichigo will win eventually but where the anime is now I think Aizen is pretty much Bleach's Goku.

tAhTsExYBrOwNmAn
12-18-2005, 11:37 PM
...but we all know Ichigo will win in the end...afterall, this is a tv show.

I second that!

Yeah...Ichigo will obviously win in the end. Because..he's the hero and that's whats supposed to happen.

Or perhaps they could have a twist?

the purifier
12-18-2005, 11:38 PM
i think he'd lose cause the illusion is ultimate and can fool everybode (except blind people:P)

Dounick
12-18-2005, 11:49 PM
yay ppl ignore what i have to say -_-

rafdraft
12-20-2005, 01:25 AM
I think its all about Mastery, Aizen at this point in time wins Hands down. I dont think that Ichigo is gonna need a Hollow side towards the End ... Actually it seems to me like the Hollow side is probobally gonna go bai bai sooner or later and Ichigos gonna absorb all the alter Ichigos power and he will be one stable bad ass Shinigami. It seems that Ichigo has 2 power levels that of his own and then his alters So if both combined at the same time Just maybe ^_^ he could puss something off

A logical theory that may actually occur, remember theres a visored character that persuade ichigo to join with them in return they will teach ichigo how to control his Hallow persona. if ever he can pull this off, it would bring his power to a whole new level.

kraziekid
12-26-2005, 09:25 AM
Ichigo would woop Aizen with hollow! Because...aizen said strength goes mental when shinigami become hollow

I am joking actually! I don't know
Aizen will probably kill Ichigo



NOO MANS ICHIGO WOULD WOOP AIZENS BUT WITH HOLLOW FORM