Reputation

[Prince Noctis]

I do remember that. There were also huge yellow stars for rep whores like silverwolf.

:Haha


Maybe we should get rid of the Rep like when we experimented with ridding the post count.

[silverwolf801]

I don't think that we should get rid of rep because people still use it as a currency on the forums. Such as for winning contest and what not.

I mean you could take it away if you have an alternate way to provide prizes and such for different group contest who want to use reps as their prize

[Kazmiz]

Currency which has no value, I may add.

Rep is nothing; there are people on the boards who have less rep than I do and yet deserve it more, and by reverse analogy there are people who have so much of it you can compare them to a chinese gold farmer.

Of course, if rep were to be eliminated, you'd have waves upon waves of *****ing about it. People cried about the post count quite a bit, so imagine how much they'd cry about their precious rep.

[silverwolf801]

Hm well I won't respond to that because all I said was if the rep was to be taken away what would be replaced for prizes. And i don't think you can really answer that question Kaze.

Rep is currency with no value but it is still used through out the forum for many things such as for the Renji Poetry Contest. Or even some of the DIv Contest. Now tell me if rep is taken away what will be given to those contest like the poetry contest who have reps as prizes every week.

[Kazmiz]

Surely, one can come up with another form of recognition. If you insist on being rewarded with strict monetary value, right now that's not possible.

Although I will say that rep is useful in the sense that you can use it derep people and thus damage their epeen, if they care about it all, that is.

Still, rep inflation makes it so that it has an increasingly smaller value over time. It's not really worth that much at all, to be honest. It perhaps creates the illusion of importance, but that's all it'll ever be.

[Manchester Black]

Rep shouldn't be eliminated. silver is right about it being used as "currency", and if we take it away obviously we'd need something else. And I don't think rep is decreasing in value at all. People with huge amounts of it obviously aquired it through good posts, so they deserve it.

[Capt Kenpachi]

I liked when the forum actually had "money" that you could use to change your name, the color of your username and such things like that. Why did it go away? It made people earn name changes (so people that change it everyday have to work really hard), it made then earn everything.

[ghey b]

because it got ridiculously out of control and inflated so it was removed
dnt worry tho, there are still staff members fighting to get it back :p


as for rep...

if all your worried about it it being taken away because you use it as currency, then it should be taken away immediately. rep should NEVER be used as currency as it defeats the whole purpose of having rep... Yes it can be used as a "prize" for doing a good job and winning a contest (which is very appropriate) but its already getting inflated enough with ppl making gifts 10 times a week and expecting rep from every person they gift or anything like that =/ ppl that have been here less than a year and still have more rep than 90% of the forum -.-

[Sarteck]

I never cared about rep. It's ridiculous IMO.

[Manchester Black]

if all your worried about it it being taken away because you use it as currency, then it should be taken away immediately. rep should NEVER be used as currency as it defeats the whole purpose of having rep... Yes it can be used as a "prize" for doing a good job and winning a contest (which is very appropriate) but its already getting inflated enough with ppl making gifts 10 times a week and expecting rep from every person they gift or anything like that =/ ppl that have been here less than a year and still have more rep than 90% of the forum -.-

That's what I mean. Using it as a prize for a contest or something. Rep for every gift you make is stupid.

[silverwolf801]

because it got ridiculously out of control and inflated so it was removed
dnt worry tho, there are still staff members fighting to get it back :p


as for rep...

if all your worried about it it being taken away because you use it as currency, then it should be taken away immediately. rep should NEVER be used as currency as it defeats the whole purpose of having rep... Yes it can be used as a "prize" for doing a good job and winning a contest (which is very appropriate) but its already getting inflated enough with ppl making gifts 10 times a week and expecting rep from every person they gift or anything like that =/ ppl that have been here less than a year and still have more rep than 90% of the forum -.-

well i defintely know where you are coming from with the whole people getting reps for nothing thing. I hate to see people get reps for being someones friends things along that line.

I personally love my rep yea of course I do because I worked for all of it. even when it got cut in half like a year and a half ago I still worked it back to what it is today. I don't ask for handout from anyone. I just do what I do.

[Capt Kenpachi]

Is there anyway to more carefully watch rep? Maybe set it so that all rep as to be approved before it takes effect. And if there is no comment as to why you are getting repped then the receiver does not get it.

[Kamina]

^^ Nah, I say thats unnecesary. Rep really doesnt matter that much, I am sure the admins/mods wouldnt appreciate having to keep track of something so trivial. I mean, people get repped constantly. Repping someone because you like them, isnt that the purpose of rep? I mean, if I want to +rep someone, I should have the right to do it whenever I feel like it.

[Capt Kenpachi]

The whole issue is rep abuse. And the only way to deal with that abuse is to watch over it. If they need to appoint people on this forum to just moderate the reping then they should do it. Choose people that they trust would use their better judgment, and have them moderate the reping that goes on.

[Kamina]

Sorry, but I totally disagree with you. If you keep +repping people like crazy, or neg repping people for no reason, thats rep abuse. Repping somebody because you agree with them in a convo, think they are cool and deserve your rep, or for a gift that is not rep abuse. What do you think reputation means?

[Capt Kenpachi]

All of the reasons that you stated for good reping is rep abuse. When someone gets repped it should be because they had one really good post. And by really good post I mean that their idea was something that no one else could even conceive of. I could say "Aizen does not have bankai". Good idea but bad post. It should be like "Aizen does not have bankai, here are my reasons........" and if they have good reasons then they get rep. Not, cool avatar now here is some rep.

[Kamina]

But if they made an avatar you thought was REALLY nice, I see no reason why you wouldnt be allowed to rep them. Cite me anything from the rules/FAQ that states how this is rep abuse. Im not going to even double check because I am sure you wont find it. The way people deal with their rep is up to them. Just because you dont totally agree about the fact that some people are more liberal with their rep doesnt mean it is rep abuse.

Even a small reason for repping is still a reason. I was neg repped for minor issues and even though me among others thought it was abuse, the admins did not feel the same. Take it for what it is.

[Capt Kenpachi]

How many people on this forum actually make their own Avatar? If they do good for them, but you are saying things likethink they are cool and deserve your rep That is no reason for someone to get rep. Which is abuse of the rep system.

[Esca]

Why not let the staff decide what constitutes as rep abuse, nyeh? :cm:

[Kamina]

Well, what does the staff think then?

I got negged repped for not liking someones userbar and voicing my opinion about getting it changed (the GFXYZ flashing bar). I got neg repped for this. It wasnt called rep abuse. For such a menial thing you can get rep. What is wrong with appreciating somebody on the forum for being themselves?

[ghey b]

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=22718

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showpost.php?p=2515831&postcount=1

srsly, you shoulda double checked >.>

[Kamina]

Ok, maybe repping someone for a cool sig is sort of against the rules, but anything else, including repping members who you really enjoy being with, I dont think would be rep abuse. As long as you seem to have a good reason for wanting to do it. It really isnt a big deal, why should we create rep police?

[Sarteck]

rep abuse - Using the rep system in any way, shape, or form. This includes viewing rep.

[Kamina]

Ban me then. i just looked at your rep bar :/

[nx6]

Why not let the staff decide what constitutes as rep abuse, nyeh? :cm:
Stop making sense!

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=22718

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showpost.php?p=2515831&postcount=1

srsly, you shoulda double checked >.>
* nx6 notes the rep abuse list has not been updated since July 2007, and yes I looked at the end of the thread, too *

Ban me then. i just looked at your rep bar :/
You shouldn't look at another man's bar. :cm:

[ghey b]

*jb makes note that a list doesnt have to be updated for rules to remain valid* :cm:

and it can just as easily start being updated again >.>

[Manchester Black]

Capt and Kamina, you're both wrong about the rep abuse. Capt, you're being a little too strict about it. There are other things beside phenominal once in a life time posts that deserve rep. But Kamina, just because someone feels like repping another person, doesn't mean their reason is correct. It's not up to you two anyway.

As for the whole appointing people to watch for rep abuse; that's just to menial of a task to do. No one is going to want to fish through dozens of reps/neg reps and pick out the legit ones.

[Sarteck]

Specially when it don't matter one bit---there is nothing on the forum affected by rep. :)

[Manchester Black]

Specially when it don't matter one bit---there is nothing on the forum affected by rep. :)

Precisely. I wasn't even suggesting anything to do with rep abuse way back when I brought it up anyway...

[nx6]

Specially when it don't matter one bit---there is nothing on the forum affected by rep. :)
Couldn't the same be said for the vbux system?

[Cero]

No, I would have to say it does.

What does VBux do? It buys you certain features.
Those features can effect the small to the large, changing usertitles of other people, changing name color, ect.

Those are just small things.

It's just really all about incentive. A prize. A reason.

[Capt Kenpachi]

And the vbux system is much less likely to get abused. Each time you give the person vbux they have to take what ever they give away to the person. So stuff like randomly giving vbux is not going to happen. People want their vbux or rep because they feel that it gives them a status here on CB. it may not but that is not how they view it.

[Chad]

instead of reputation, why not use a thank you system i see on some forums. it looks nicer and the person who thanked you shows under that posts. i see some members with alot of reputation on this forum so I think your repuation system is being abused

[Kamina]

What about making multiple accounts and "buying" from the other account to hord money? I think that was a problem with it from before.

I was just mentioning the extremes. According to the original rules, you can rep people for good posts, or even consistently good posts. In a sense it is subjective, what does a "good" post really entail? Information, comedic relief, etc.

i see some members with alot of reputation on this forum so I think your repuation system is being abused

I really dont see substantial proof with this reasoning. Some people either make a lot of good posts, or gift people a lot. Some consider receiving rep as "payment" for gifts and request as whoring rep, but the fact is most people do it. When you receive a GFX gift, it has basically become common courtesy to rep them. Not saying you *have* to, but it is just what people do.

[Capt Kenpachi]

A good post entails whether it is good to the thread or not. I can post a pic in the DB evil pic thead thingy and it be great, then go into the bleach section and try and post the same pic. It Doesn't work.

To prevent from creating accounts and sending the money to it. *still pondering*

[Kamina]

A good post entails whether it is good to the thread or not. I can post a pic in the DB evil pic thead thingy and it be great, then go into the bleach section and try and post the same pic. It Doesn't work.


Thats just redundant. You basically said a good post is good, lol. If we were to rank "good posts", what would you believe to be the judgement call where it becomes rep abuse?

[Sarteck]

Could pull a GaiaOnline solution.. WHen I was last there, you started with 400, and a trading license cost 1000. :P

[Cero]

There we go. Something liek that.

Or maybe no transfering of VBux until x amount of posts.

I think I remember it being suggested that VBux not be usable by members under x amount of posts.

Take both roads.

25 posts to obtain and use
100 posts to give vbux to other people

[Esca]

Too bad Vbux isn't compatible with Vbulletin 3.7 and the forum is still broken. Maybe it would be best to bring this up when the forum is fixed, whenever that happens - if it does.

[Cero]

No vbux, but there is that alternate one.... VB Credits, or some shit.

And I think discussion is good now, cause we could have the problem gone before we even are able to impliment it.

Best to get it out of the way.

[Chad]

what is vbux?
I really dont see substantial proof with this reasoning. Some people either make a lot of good posts, or gift people a lot. Some consider receiving rep as "payment" for gifts and request as whoring rep, but the fact is most people do it. When you receive a GFX gift, it has basically become common courtesy to rep them. Not saying you *have* to, but it is just what people do.

abuse is abuse. no matter how you sugar coat it. if members fel like they have to give rep for something, then it's pointless. like isaid before, reputation could be replaced with a better and more controlled thank you system

[Esca]

The discussion won't be good now because guess what the response you're going to get? "Wait until the forum is fixed then we'll do it," or something along that line. This apparent "problem" has been brought up on several occasions and has already been solved.

[Chad]

i dont think nething wrong to discuss something that can be used later. unless it's a rule

[Sarteck]

Nope, there is no rule against it, heh. It's fine to discuss it now.

[Cero]

The discussion won't be good now because guess what the response you're going to get? "Wait until the forum is fixed then we'll do it," or something along that line. This apparent "problem" has been brought up on several occasions and has already been solved.

I am not saying any implimation of said discussion, only choices.

And if said discussion has already been solved, then I guess there is no reason to discuss it. I guess I was under the impression that it wasn't. My bad

:::EDIT:::
Wait, whut?

[Capt Kenpachi]

Could pull a GaiaOnline solution.. WHen I was last there, you started with 400, and a trading license cost 1000. :P

I knew that there was a reason that I had kept you around and not cookie banned you. AKA I like it.

@esca- If it would cause so many issues then why not completely remove the rep system and implement the new vbux plan instead?

[Cero]

Esca was talking about how the forum was having problems in general.

Not how rep was having problems

[Kamina]

Is rep really an issue? I kinda think you guys are barking up the wrong tree. I think its fine as it is now tbh. the only think I would like is to change the bars so that they move up the ladder more slowly, rather than topping out too early

[Decado]

Rep is on every forum to provide incentives for people to post and to be contributing on an intellectual basis in some way.

Yes, it's a pseudo glee, but hell, so is captaincy of a div. No need to whine about how 'useless' rep is. Everything on a forum is, in the end, useless. Everything on a forum is pseudo-power so any reference to rep being as such is redundant and invalid. Why not just wipe the whole forum? Wipe post count - no worries it doesn't state who you are. Wipe rep - again, doesn't state anything but e-peen, eh? Wipe usertags - don't have to advertise what you've helped contribute. Wipe avatar's and sigs - why show a theme at all? Wipe usertitles - what's the point of random words above tags?

Rep helps promote better activity - of course not ALL the time, but people can tell a rep-whore from one who is not (ie, as JB and co said before, one who just keeps making 2 minute gifts to get rep, especially when gifting people with massive reps) as to one who earns it through thought-out, continous intellectual debates, etc.

For our Gotei Bleach Project - It's also easier to find members to recruit, especially those with newer join dates. Not everyone has the time to go through every single post, especially those who are not mods. Those with higher rep are more easily noticed and their posts checked to see if they're viable for joinage. If rep was removed you'd only have interaction with the member to go by if you wanted to recruit someone to join your div. Laziness sets in. A reason why some divs pathetically crashed because they couldn't be bothered to find members to join their divs themselves. Everything is there, so use it.

It's the same as meeting someone in RL. If they're dirty and unclean you tend to have a different opinion about them.

End of rep story. :cm:

Is rep really an issue? I kinda think you guys are barking up the wrong tree.
Definitely. QFT.

When the forum isn't so broken the admins can reinstate the other rep system again.

[Sarteck]

I disagree. I come from hundreds of Internet communities since 1992. The great bulk of them (I'd estimate at around 90% or more) never used rep or anything like that. People were judged on their post content, not by "how dirty" some number given only for popularity purposes represented them.

As for people scouting for Div members.. Hell, you've got a LOT more reason to look through someone's posts in THAT case, rather than giving a single regard to a silly number.

(Er, re-opening this, too, cause I don't see a reason to close it. Heh.)

[FullMetal Rebel]

People on NF(NarutoFan) rep each other just for the hell of it. Theres even a rep whore FC where they just rep each for rep, or simply put "rep me, and I'll rep you back". You can't even call that status just something silly. Its just some irrelevant number. Neg repping is fun though.

If you admins are going for status then I don't think it should stay, but for fun sure.

[Capt Kenpachi]

Rep is on every forum to provide incentives for people to post and to be contributing on an intellectual basis in some way.

Yes, it's a pseudo glee, but hell, so is captaincy of a div. No need to whine about how 'useless' rep is. Everything on a forum is, in the end, useless. Everything on a forum is pseudo-power so any reference to rep being as such is redundant and invalid. Why not just wipe the whole forum? Wipe post count - no worries it doesn't state who you are. Wipe rep - again, doesn't state anything but e-peen, eh? Wipe usertags - don't have to advertise what you've helped contribute. Wipe avatar's and sigs - why show a theme at all? Wipe usertitles - what's the point of random words above tags?

Rep helps promote better activity - of course not ALL the time, but people can tell a rep-whore from one who is not (ie, as JB and co said before, one who just keeps making 2 minute gifts to get rep, especially when gifting people with massive reps) as to one who earns it through thought-out, continous intellectual debates, etc.

For our Gotei Bleach Project - It's also easier to find members to recruit, especially those with newer join dates. Not everyone has the time to go through every single post, especially those who are not mods. Those with higher rep are more easily noticed and their posts checked to see if they're viable for joinage. If rep was removed you'd only have interaction with the member to go by if you wanted to recruit someone to join your div. Laziness sets in. A reason why some divs pathetically crashed because they couldn't be bothered to find members to join their divs themselves. Everything is there, so use it.

It's the same as meeting someone in RL. If they're dirty and unclean you tend to have a different opinion about them.

End of rep story. :cm:


Definitely. QFT.

When the forum isn't so broken the admins can reinstate the other rep system again.

Rep should not be required to show people how good your posts are. Every post should be good, if you do that then you do not need the rep system to say how good you are at contributing. What if I make one post that was really funny and everyone repped me for it, I then go up like 10-15 rep power and that means that all of my post are outstanding???


Esca was talking about how the forum was having problems in general.

Really? Because I got the impression that esca was saying that adding tthe vbux system would only give the forum more issues. So if that were the case then removing the rep system might clear up the forum issues a little bit. And then replace rep with vbux so that we do not have to deal with issues from both the vbux system and rep system.

[Esca]

Too bad Vbux isn't compatible with Vbulletin 3.7 and the forum is still broken.

The Forum issues deal with the host, I believe. Something only Unholy can solve. There is no Vbux system (but if you want to go with Credits) - adding, well, addons will only screw with the forum more. And taking anymore things away, I believe, won't help.

[Hiraishin]

If you guys don't care about it so much than why are you trying so hard to have it gone?

[Capt Kenpachi]

To get something that we do care about.

@Esca?- I hope that is you esca other wise I feel like an idiot. OK. I did not know that removing the rep system would not allow for us to add the v credit system without adding issues :D

[Tsukuyomi]

I don't think we should remove rep....because....it's nice to know that people like you?

[Rainl]

Rep makes no impact on a forum. Therefore, there's no need to take any action towards it in the first place, considering it does nothing. Not to mention if rep was indeed taken away, you'd endure much more *****ing, than you would normally. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

[silverwolf801]

Um well actually rep does impact the forum in a weekly basis actually. Most of the contest that take place in this forum are rep prize based. Take for instance the new Poetry Corner Contest not the potw. It is giving a prize of rep from every participant. Also as I stated before in the suggestions thread, rep is also used in the Divisional Contest as well.

Now there is no way that the staff can continuously come up with different prizes for every single event or they might just crash the board because if they were to continuously get prizes such as different add ons for the contest then the forum would really go up in smoke. SO I think that rep has done it's fair share for this forum.

But I do agree with the if it's not broken ting don't fix it. Is the rep affecting the forum in any way ( I don't know maybe not). Will getting rid of rep help us to get something better(well if it does, then I am up for the idea).

[Rainl]

But I'm stating. What's the main point of Rep and what "exactly" does it indicate/mean? You can get rep in a number of ways for a number of reasons.

[Capt Kenpachi]

Um well actually rep does impact the forum in a weekly basis actually. Most of the contest that take place in this forum are rep prize based. Take for instance the new Poetry Corner Contest not the potw. It is giving a prize of rep from every participant. Also as I stated before in the suggestions thread, rep is also used in the Divisional Contest as well.

Now there is no way that the staff can continuously come up with different prizes for every single event or they might just crash the board because if they were to continuously get prizes such as different add ons for the contest then the forum would really go up in smoke. SO I think that rep has done it's fair share for this forum.

But I do agree with the if it's not broken ting don't fix it. Is the rep affecting the forum in any way ( I don't know maybe not). Will getting rid of rep help us to get something better(well if it does, then I am up for the idea).

The vbux credit system can replace the rep system when the forum is fixed. With the vbux credit system if you want to "rep" someone then you need to give up a little of your money. This will lower to abuse of the system and as Sarteck said we could make it so that you have to purchase a trading license for x amount of vbux credits to prevent people from creating accounts and transferring those vbux credits to themselves.

This system gives people something to work for. It would require that they earn that name change or earn changing their usertitle. Earn changing the color or their username or if it is bold and what not. This way if you write a really good poem and people give you vbux credits you can do something with them. My big thing here is earning. Too many people have taken for granted being able to change their name every 5 mins and what not.

[Hits]

We should keep it because there is nothing more serious in our lives than what is happening in an internet forum.

[Kenta]

Truer words have never been spoken.

[Capt Kenpachi]

We should keep it because there is nothing more serious in our lives than what is happening in an internet forum.

Whaty what what? I need a translation so that I can put up an argument.

[Tai Dai]

There's no reason to fight about it and take it away. Some people argued about showing the post count because it "doesn't really matter", so it was removed off under the avatar, then even more peopled complained about it not being under the avatar even though you can see it in the profile. It was complained unto the point where it was brought back to under the ava. Now people are complaining why should rep be shown because it also "doesn't really matter." So when rep is taken away, what do you think is gonna happen?

V what happened after it was taken away V
http://clubbleach.net/showthread.php?t=61179&page=5

and then it came back :cm:

[Cursive]

I never cared about rep. It's ridiculous IMO.

^^

[Capt Kenpachi]

There's no reason to fight about it and take it away. Some people argued about showing the post count because it "doesn't really matter", so it was removed off under the avatar, then even more peopled complained about it not being under the avatar even though you can see it in the profile. It was complained unto the point where it was brought back to under the ava. Now people are complaining why should rep be shown because it also "doesn't really matter." So when rep is taken away, what do you think is gonna happen?

V what happened after it was taken away V
http://clubbleach.net/showthread.php?t=61179&page=5

and then it came back :cm:

What I am proposing is to take away the rep and then replace it with the vbux credit. The vbux credit system would be much harder to abuse and it gives the user something to earn.

[nx6]

Um well actually rep does impact the forum in a weekly basis actually. Most of the contest that take place in this forum are rep prize based. Take for instance the new Poetry Corner Contest not the potw. It is giving a prize of rep from every participant. Also as I stated before in the suggestions thread, rep is also used in the Divisional Contest as well.

Rep isn't supposed to be used as a form or currency, and therefore should not be used as a prize either. All this is indicative to me that the forum needs a currency system similar to vbux again. Perhaps with set budgets allocated to the groups like the GFX squads, Poetry group, ect for their use in prizes.

The admins have already recognized the need for such a system for the Gotei to function. Well, there are other forum sections that, while not as well heavily regulated as the Gotei, operate in a similar fashion.

If the staff want +reps to be used only to show appreciation for particularly insightful or funny forum posts, there need to be other mechanisms in place for the other forum functions.

[Hits]

Truer words have never been spoken.

I concur.

I get a kick out of these threads. People take things too seriously. They can give long-winded discussions about some pseudo-community currency yet they fail to realize that this is the internet.

[Capt Kenpachi]

You are right. It is the internet. So does that mean I can spam all I want, and I can flame the admin with no consequences? No, I can't do either. Why because admin wants this forum run as cleanly as possible, to most benefit the members. And if that means long winded discussions of what you consider pointless because it is the internet then shot me, because if I can ever be of use to make the forum run more smoothly then I will. Why because this is like a second home for me. I can talk to people here more freely then I can my closest friends.

[nx6]

I get a kick out of these threads. People take things too seriously. They can give long-winded discussions about some pseudo-community currency yet they fail to realize that this is the internet.
You fail to realize some of us enjoy batting these yarns around in a semi-academic fashion. :kitty:

[Decado]

People on NF(NarutoFan) rep each other just for the hell of it.
This isn't NF is it? -.-

This is CB. Where rep is actually controlled.

some number given only for popularity purposes represented them.
As I said already, rep should be given for posts that display some sort of contribution on an intellectual basis in some way. It's the admin's job to control "popularity" or abusive reps.

As for people scouting for Div members.. Hell, you've got a LOT more reason to look through someone's posts in THAT case, rather than giving a single regard to a silly number.
Again, it seems as if you didn't read my post.

I clearly said:

It's also easier to find members to recruit, especially those with newer join dates. Not everyone has the time to go through every single post, especially those who are not mods. Those with higher rep are more easily noticed and their posts checked to see if they're viable for joinage. If rep was removed you'd only have interaction with the member to go by if you wanted to recruit someone to join your div.

Of course rep isn't the ONLY thing to go by. I hardly, if ever go by rep - but that's because I stalk pretty much every member on the forum :P

For example when I recruited Reyin to the Espada his rep was basically non-existent but I judged his posts from Debates and Bleach Manga to assess his quality.

Restricting the argument on rep to say "use ONLY rep," or "use ONLY post count" or "use ONLY watever" is not taking into account the point of forum activity. As I said everything is there so everything should be used.

Especially by those who don't spend every second of their day on a forum

Rep should not be required to show people how good your posts are. Every post should be good, if you do that then you do not need the rep system to say how good you are at contributing.
Um. You think? Go back and read my post again please.

What if I make one post that was really funny and everyone repped me for it, I then go up like 10-15 rep power and that means that all of my post are outstanding???
Yeah, I addressed this already. Check my 3rd paragraph in my post you quoted.

When you do have a valid point, make it.

We should keep it because there is nothing more serious in our lives than what is happening in an internet forum.
Oh how delightfully witty.

You do realise that the people who want it removed when it wasn't doing anything to harm anyone, are the ones who created this thread?

Therefore. By the same token - let us argue about getting rid of it because there's nothing more serious in our lives than to ***** about removing something on a forum.

I get a kick out of these threads. People take things too seriously. They can give long-winded discussions about some pseudo-community currency yet they fail to realize that this is the internet.
That's why it was closed.

It's a figure next to your profile. Just leave it the hell alone.

[Sarteck]

I read your post thouroughly, actually, and still disagree with it. Well, maybe you're right--maybe Rep -does- make it easier for people to judge other people. It does NOT do it accurately, doesn't matter how much time the administration puts into checking out "rep abuse" or whatever.

For instance, look at this thread, and see the reasons people rep other people. Do you honestly think that could ever change, that people will only rep at for "appropriate" purposes (whatever the hell those are, anyway, heh heh).

Let us not forget to mention the fact that InuYashaLover1234567 may legitimately rep Kenshin304050 for something that I would never consider repping him for. The simple fact that different people would rep for different reasons alone is what makes it so that Rep would never amount to any kind of judgment scale.



As for the closing of this thread, I see it like this--everyone has a right to voice their opinions about the site--that's what this sub-forum is for, heh. People can debate on those suggestions until they're blue in the face and as long as they don't break the rules, can continue past that. :3

[Manchester Black]

Holy hell, I shouldn't even have brought up rep in the suggestions thread. The rep is fine the way it is. Forget I said anything. Don't take it away or people will complain.

[Hiraishin]

What I am proposing is to take away the rep and then replace it with the vbux credit. The vbux credit system would be much harder to abuse and it gives the user something to earn.

*sigh* vbux isn't compatible with this version of vBulletin, this was brought up the first time you suggested it, why keep suggesting it? It can't happen.

[Sin]

I think being strict on rep abuse is probably the best thing you can do. For instance the gfx areas (gifts thread) or request stations (-minus the gfx requests where said problem was somewhat fixed), where rep is just whored out to the point its apparently meaningless on the rest of the forum. While i would hate for rep itself to be gone as a whole some stricter guidelines towards rep abuse would be nice, or else might as well do away with it.

[Kamina]

I dont know what captains care about rep power, but in my opinion, it couldnt be more trivial. Some people rep for intelligent posts, others dont. Some people use the forum to post intelligent posts, some just stay here to chat about anime and how their day went. Rep means nothing as far as contributions towards the forum. You shouldnt have to be a good debater to get good rep.

I have been in countless intelligent discussions here and havent gotten repped for many of them. Rep is a personal opinion.

This argument is stupid and is going nowhere. Leave the rep alone. The reason why this subject was brought up was to bring down the sensitivity of gaining bars because of an inflated system. Think economically, if money is worth less, prices go up. Basically most forumers have a higher rep on average than before, which even 6 months ago the highest rep was in the 300s. Now its 600+. Its time to correct for inflation imo. If you have other gripes with the rep, I really dont care, lol

[Kamina]

I made a post but the site went down for a sec and didnt post it. I hate this ****in site sometimes :/

In summary, the reason why rep was brought up was because of it's inflation. Its basic economics really, when the worth of money goes down, prices are increased. Increase the price per rep bar is all im saying we should do. Other criticisms of rep and its use are no issue to me, I could care less what anyone thinks about it. Its menial, but fun. and no captain should judge anything based upon rep, thats naive.

[Decado]

Since we're going around in circles.. again..

if you have anything original of significance to add, feel free to PM and we'll reopen the thread.

:)

/closed