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Entenie
12-28-2005, 05:49 PM
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7492/shibafc5yl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
So you've found the Shiba family FC. One of Soul Society's most lively family around and known all over Seireitei and the Rukongai.
This FC is the place to discuss, talk and show your love about any member of the Shiba family.
So join this fanclub and and help build this part of the Bleach universe. If you are already part of the Shiba Kaien Fc or Shiba Ganjyu Fc.....no problem, you too are welcome here!
Unfortunately I suck at making banners, so help is needed.
Members:
1. Entenie (owner)
2. Islaya
3. zeraya
4. Bastaldo
5. SmallKid57
6. whitey-chan
7. Miriya
8. Rokusaburo
9. IsshinMan_Hero
10. Gothic Lolita

Islaya
12-28-2005, 08:49 PM
You know, I was wondering when someone was going to get around to making this FC. I'll join, the Shiba Family is the second best in the show, right after the Kuchikis. I'll see what I can do about a banner for you.

Finished banner, LMK if you want anything diffrent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Islaya/SFFC.png

Entenie
12-29-2005, 05:10 AM
You know, I was wondering when someone was going to get around to making this FC. I'll join, the Shiba Family is the second best in the show, right after the Kuchikis. I'll see what I can do about a banner for you.

Finished banner, LMK if you want anything diffrent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Islaya/SFFC.png
Cool, you're the first. I'll edit the first post when we reach five members. Perhaps you'd like to be co-owner?
The banner is good enough. I was also about to make a request in the request thread. So I think it would be fun to have multiple banners, perhaps we should do something with the Shibacrest.

(ps. whet does LMK mean?)

Islaya
12-29-2005, 05:32 AM
LMK= Let me know.

lol, I was google searching for the Shiba crest and couldnt find it. The design area may be a good idea, im not too experienced with Photoshop, that was just somthing I threw togther real fast =)

zeraya
01-07-2006, 11:48 PM
i think shiba family is a funny family and they are strong and they help ichigo to save rukia , and i like ganjyu because he is funny and he is kind and he is ugly lol , i hate his sister because she is ecchi and she always hit ganjyu and ichigo and she look like a big man and i like ganjyu is brother because he always help rukia and stay with her when she stay alone he is a gentlman

Ethanol
01-08-2006, 12:01 AM
I'll like to join this FC. The Shiba family is interesting, and the members are cool.

Entenie
01-08-2006, 07:17 PM
Phew I was beginning to worry no-one like the Shiba clan.
So Zeraya, can't really tell from you're post if you're in or not.
Bastaldo welcome to the FC.

I'll edit the first post.

zeraya
01-08-2006, 09:27 PM
i want to join that fan club because am fan of ganjyu

SmallKid57
01-08-2006, 09:31 PM
can i join this fc? im a huge fan of kaien and kuukaku... they're both so strong and cool... not really ganju but he's ok.

zeraya
01-08-2006, 11:01 PM
why the people hate shiba family they are very funny people and they helped ichigo alots of time and why people did not say that shiba family is kind

SmallKid57
01-09-2006, 02:20 AM
that's y i like em... and they really have great character.. and have good humor.

Entenie
01-09-2006, 05:20 AM
Hooray welcome to zeraya and SmallKid57.
Well since we've finally reached the 5 member count (yes including me)
This is for you guys

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/173/brownie9ef.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A bigger cake when we've reached the 10 members count

Now about the Shiba clan
I think the role of the Shiba clan isn't done yet. They could be really powerfull allies against Aizen and the Arrancar, that is at least if Ganjyu survives Kuukaku's training

Ethanol
01-09-2006, 12:03 PM
mmmm cake

Yeah, I want to see more of Kuukaku and what she can do. Ganju....*ponders*, he's an alright guy. Maybe they'll have a filler episode about the Shiba family?

zeraya
01-09-2006, 09:21 PM
what do you think if genjyu go out a date what type of girl he will take and where he will take her?????????

SmallKid57
01-09-2006, 09:28 PM
maybe a hot grl...?

zeraya
01-09-2006, 09:39 PM
i think he will take a hot woman and go to the zoo because he did not know where is a good place for date lol

SmallKid57
01-09-2006, 10:43 PM
lol he'll probably take the grl to his sister's cannon and go. don't worry! we wont die!

lol i bet that grl must be pretty scared....

zeraya
01-09-2006, 10:48 PM
i do not think ganjyu is sister will let ganjyu teach the cannon because she is evil

Entenie
01-10-2006, 05:17 AM
Yeah I really hope to see more of a battling Kuukaku. In the anime she proved to be very good at kidou. I'm very curious to know how she lost that right arm.

I do see some potential for Ganjyu, because he's really an inventive guy. He just have to get some serious training and he might even become a master at kidou.

As for Ganjyu's date. It would be a hot girl I guess.......hotheaded that is (like his sis). I think he would take her to some boarriding across Rukongai.

SmallKid57
01-10-2006, 10:19 PM
lol i think ganju needs some training on his swordsmanship... kuukaku is missing an arm????

Entenie
01-11-2006, 07:54 AM
Gunjyu+swordmanship?? I don't think that would work. It's too much head to head fighting. I think of him more as a long distance fighter.

Haven't you noticed.
Kuukaku's right arm is missing. In te manga you only see a bandaged stomp and in the anime they have given her a wooden arm.

SmallKid57
01-11-2006, 10:48 PM
eh? lol maybe... idk. but ganju has all these weird tricks which are cool.... but i wonder wut he was gonna do when he fought byakaya...

Entenie
01-12-2006, 10:40 AM
I think he was about to do a diversion tricks. He did the same with Yumichika, pretending to have a big trick up his sleeve, just to show some dirty escape trick.
But nevertheless, these weird tricks you speak of only strengthen my belief Ganjyu is a long distance fighter. Think of it, all of those tricks purpose was to keep Yumichika away from him and most Kidouspells are able to attack or submit an opponant without coming close to him.
For instance when Kuukaku attacked Aizen kokuzoku with Raikohou, she had to be of save distance or she would have been victim of the blast as well, due to its impact.

Speaking of Kuukaku, I wonder who trained her in the art of Kidou.

zeraya
01-12-2006, 09:19 PM
if today is genjyu birthday
who will come for genjyu is birthday?
what they will gave him????????

SmallKid57
01-12-2006, 10:52 PM
EVERYONE WILL COME! and everyone will give him more headwear...

zeraya
01-12-2006, 11:03 PM
i do not think everyone will come because they do not like to come to a house full of crazy people

SmallKid57
01-12-2006, 11:15 PM
lol kuukaku's house is awesome... lol shiba family has the best house in soul society

zeraya
01-13-2006, 12:16 AM
yes but everyone in the soul society think about shiba family is a crazy famliy and there not alots of people in the soul society like them

SmallKid57
01-13-2006, 12:17 AM
lol that'd be hilarious if ganju has a mini cannon attatched to his belt and it shoots like a huge cannon ball... of rietsu...

zeraya
01-13-2006, 12:49 AM
what do you think if genjyu want to the sea with his girlfriend and he see a pretty girls and he follow them
what do you think genjyu is girlfriend will do to genjyu ?????????
and what genjyu will do with the girls?????????????
and what he will do to let his girlfriend come again to him ???????????

SmallKid57
01-13-2006, 01:07 AM
i think he'll go to his gf b/c noone will go to him =D

Entenie
01-13-2006, 02:25 PM
Umm guys, not that it isn't a funny subject (ie a date 4 Ganjyu), please keep the following note from the moderators in mind http://www.forums.bleachportal.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7307

SmallKid57
01-14-2006, 03:21 PM
ok... but we're talking about ganju.... and other shiba family members...

lol wasn't it hilarious when rukia went to apoligise to kuukaku and kuukaku ending up feeding everyone at her house and she forgave rukia... that was cool.

UraharaTenchou
01-15-2006, 04:49 AM
yeah, she was kind and forginving, not keeping grudges.. pretty too! i wish i'm like her, able to control her brother..lol

Ethanol
01-15-2006, 05:15 AM
I just want to be able to use kidou like her...would be great. Someone's bothering you....Thunder Cannon *BOOM!* :D

UraharaTenchou
01-15-2006, 05:21 AM
lol, oh yeah, kaien is shiba too right?so how is kuukaku related to kaien?cousins?

Ethanol
01-15-2006, 05:23 AM
I don't know...would be nice to see some episodes about them though.

Entenie
01-16-2006, 10:05 AM
Hey ya'll. I've tried to collect al the Shiba info there is and made this small inside info.
We could discuss its contents. Although this is a small one, lets al try to make it more complete. So if there is something missing or something should be changed/added, let me know and I'll adjust.
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The Shiba Family insider
About the Shiba family
The Shiba clan, a noble clan of Soul Society. It’s current known members consists of the siblings Kaien, Kuukaku and Ganjyu. Shiba Kaien, the eldest, however was killed during an Hollow attack, presumably 15 to 20 years ago.
Despite being nobility, it is said that the house of Shiba has fallen, although it isn’t sure what this means in the world of Soul Society. During the (anime) fight between Shihouin Yoruichi and Soi Fong, it is indicated that a certain Bakaratsu was responsible for the Shiba Clan to fall. Though there are some speculation that says that Shiba Kaien’s death was responsible for the fall of the Shiba family. The same fight (Fong vs Shihouin) may also indicate that the house of Shiba was part of Soul Society’s four great noble family’s.
The proof for this assumption is in the dialogue where Captain Soi Fong tells Shihouin Yoruichi that if it was known that she helped the intruders, it would causes the great noble family of Shihouin to fall. She then uses the Shiba family as an example of such fallen great noble family. Despite being fallen it is possible that the Shiba family remained as one of the great four houses in Soul Society’s historybooks.
Shiba family members
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3730/shiba0xz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shiba Kaien
The eldest of the three Shiba siblings. Kaien was the Vice Captain of the 13th Division and married to the 13th Division 3th seat. Due to the sickness of his Captain he often was given the daily lead of the division. Like his Captain he was caring and loving to his subordinates, be it in a odd way. He showed his love and caring in a rough way and often roughen or scold his subordinates. Still he treated them al as equals as he had no problem discipline Kuchiki Rukia, a member of the great Kuchiki house.
Kaien was also a loving husband and cared for his wife very deeply. Because of this, Kaien was infuriated when it was discovered that a shapeshifting Hollow killed his wife. He fought against the Hollow to regain is honour and his pride. A fight he lost and he eventually was killed by the hands of Kuchiki Rukia.
Shiba Kuukaku
The second born and also known as Rukongai number 1 fireworks specialist, Kuukaku is one bad ass woman. She is now the head of the Shiba family and has a horde of minions to do her bidding. Kuukaku has a strange sense of architecture and as a result has her house outside the Seireitei on an open field. Despite being tough and somewhat maniacal, she is a really generous person. She eventually agreed to help Ichigo and after his adventure ended she even spontaneously organized a farewell diner. But like her late brother she shows her affection in an odd brutal way.
Kuukaku also seems an expert in the use of kidou (demon art) and even has the knowledge to invent her own. It is possible she has lost her right arm due to experimenting on her own kidou.
Shiba Ganjyu
The youngest of three, Ganjyu is the ugliest of the bunch. His looks is even completed with misfit behaviour. Nevertheless he had no hesitation to accompany Ichigo on his journey (or perhaps it is because he was even more afraid to tell no to his big sister). Ganjyu had a real issue against shinigami as it was a shinigami that killed his big brother. It was this reason he disliked Ichigo on site, because of his Shinigami robes. He eventually got along with Ichigo and even displayed sincere worries over him. Offcourse as Shiba as he is, he never showed his concerns openly. As another Shiba oddity, Ganjyu likes to ride on a boar and affectionate calls his boar Bonnie.
Kidoupowers
The current Shiba family members, display some unique and powerful kidouspells. Kuukaku invented the spiritron cannon and even Ganjyu possesses some weird sand kidouspells.
Kuukaku however is the strongest (of the two) in using kidou. She can easily chant a number 63 spell as shown against the traitor Aizen. She is currently also training Ganjyu to become stronger as she feels that he was total useless in the second half of Ichigo’s adventure.
Speculations
It is speculated that Kurosaki Isshin is a runaway Shiba family member. He has the same strange way of showing affection to the ones he cares about and even has a small similarity with Ganjyu in looks. Ichigo on the other hand resembles Kaien a great deal. Some even go as far that Ichigo is the incarnation of Kaien.
If Kurosaki Isshin is a member of Shiba, it is possible he was the one responsible for the house of Shiba to fall and fled to change his name into Kurosaki Isshin and eventually started a family in Karakura town.

Ethanol
01-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Great post..nice to see all the information about the Shiba Family in one place.

Entenie
01-16-2006, 03:55 PM
Thanx for the compliments, do you want anything added/corrected?

Ethanol
01-16-2006, 04:24 PM
Was curious about something.where did you get the information about the speculation with Isshin? That is really curious and makes you think.

SmallKid57
01-16-2006, 11:12 PM
umm... some parts should be spoilered... b/c i didn't no isshin was a member of the shiba family...

Ethanol
01-16-2006, 11:24 PM
I'm not sure if there is anything that even confirms that...least from what I saw/read. I think it's just speculation.

But still, yeah... be careful of spoilers. :)

SmallKid57
01-16-2006, 11:51 PM
well... it didn't specifically say the lightning howl hadou that kuukaku did is the strongest shiba hadou... i mean they could have a stronger one

Entenie
01-17-2006, 07:44 AM
Perhaps your right on the spoiler part, BUT it is in the speculations part and this means that it has no official basis. Neither in the manga and neither in the anime.
The main source for the speculations part are the discussions here on the Club Bleach. It's just something people are guessing, which means it doesn't have to be correct or be the truth.
Kurosaki Isshin doesn't have to be a Shiba it's just a wild guess of several other people, just like Ichigo being the incarnation of Kaien due to their similar looks. It's all a wild guess.

As for Kidouspell 63 Raikoho. I never wrote that it is the strongest spell the Shiba have. I only wrote that Kuukaku is the strongest of the two, the two being Kuukaku and Ganjyu. Kidouspell 63 is just an example of Kuukaku being stronger than Ganjyu.

But thanx for your opinion.
I'm planning to collect all the Shiba specific kidouspells we've seen so far. Perhaps ya'll can help me.

SmallKid57
01-17-2006, 08:05 PM
one hadou one that i really thought was cool was the sand one ganju uses all the time. lol it was awesome when he ran away from the yumichaka guy and kept blasting through walls.

Entenie
01-18-2006, 07:06 AM
That one was nice indeed, do you remember which manga/anime episode that was or do you remember its name.

whitey-chan
01-18-2006, 11:09 AM
add me yea=P...kaieennn..

SmallKid57
01-18-2006, 09:31 PM
i forgot... i think episode 25 maybe.... idk just look for when they crash into seretei...

Entenie
01-19-2006, 06:17 AM
All welcome whitey-chan our newest member.
I've added you to our memberslist on the first page.
Also for those who haven't noticed, I've altered the introtext in the first post and added a bigass banner of some sort (it still sucks as I still wait for a better one is already ordered).

@ UraharaTenchou are you in (this FC) or what?

Well so much for updates, come on people we need more members. Whats the best strategy to achieve this. Remember there's a bigass cake waiting if the membercount reaches 10 :)

UraharaTenchou
01-19-2006, 03:59 PM
haha, nah, i'm not..i just come here to ask some questions..hehe

Ethanol
01-19-2006, 09:41 PM
Well so much for updates, come on people we need more members. Whats the best strategy to achieve this. Remember there's a bigass cake waiting if the membercount reaches 10 :)

Skimpy photos of Kuukaku. lol

SmallKid57
01-19-2006, 09:41 PM
where do u guys think the shiba family got the "swirl from the heavens" idea to be their logo thingy... lol maybe they saw a tornado on earth destroying ppl...

Entenie
01-23-2006, 05:56 AM
where do u guys think the shiba family got the "swirl from the heavens" idea to be their logo thingy... lol maybe they saw a tornado on earth destroying ppl...
Swirl from the heavens???? Where the hell did you find that??
I thought it was like a questionmark without the dot.

SmallKid57
01-23-2006, 10:08 PM
lol no... rukia explains it as a swirl from the heavens... lol i thought it was a cool clan signature

Goiz
01-26-2006, 09:53 AM
Why isn't there a Kuukaku FC? :( I would have joined this, because it's the next best thing, but I think Ganjyu is an idiot, so I will not ask to join. :p

But at least this thread will get en bump and someone might want to create a Kuukaku FC. I won't because I suck at making banners 'n stuff ^^

Anyways, have fun with this FC :)

Cheers

/edit - reply on the post below;
Sorry, didn't mean to spam your thread. ;) And no, I still don't want to join.

Entenie
01-26-2006, 02:37 PM
Why isn't there a Kuukaku FC? :( I would have joined this, because it's the next best thing, but I think Ganjyu is an idiot, so I will not ask to join. :p
But at least this thread will get en bump and someone might want to create a Kuukaku FC. I won't because I suck at making banners 'n stuff ^^
Anyways, have fun with this FC :)
Cheers
There isn't one because no one made it yet :P
Don't spam this thread if ya don't even wanna join.
The reason I made it a family FC is so that there is enough room for every fan, be it a Kaien, Kuukaku or even Ganjyu. People can still join even if he/she hates one of them, they just don't have to talk about that particular character.
A family FC also makes it easier to talk about common Shiba stuff, such like wether or not they are a great noble or what the meaning of their family crest are.
Well I do hope you wanna join, but please if you wanna talk about a Kuukaku only FC, don't do it here or make one yourself.
I also suck at making banners, yet I'm the owner of an FC.

@ SmallKid57 which episode does Rukia explains the Shiba symbol?

Ethanol
01-26-2006, 03:01 PM
There we go...I took it upon myself to create a FC for Kuukaku seeing as how she didn't have one yet. It's floating around the FC forum somewhere. :)

Entenie
01-27-2006, 09:53 AM
There we go...I took it upon myself to create a FC for Kuukaku seeing as how she didn't have one yet. It's floating around the FC forum somewhere. :)
Good luck, I hope you'll have intereseting discussions over there.
Perhaps I should mention, that I've considered making a Kuukaku FC, but it's already hard to maintain one FC.
I find it kinda hard to write about Shiba and its members, because of the lack of info we have. The stuff I wrote in the Shiba summary is the only thing I know of them.

Entenie
01-31-2006, 06:47 AM
lol no... rukia explains it as a swirl from the heavens... lol i thought it was a cool clan signature
I can't remember this one.....which ep. was that?

Miriya
02-01-2006, 01:23 AM
Oi! Count me in! ^_^

Entenie
02-01-2006, 06:00 AM
Added!!
Everyone say hello to Miriya........[in choir] hello Miriya.

Miriya
02-02-2006, 05:16 PM
*waves* Big Shiba fan here. =P And in shameless self promotion...

Tale of the Rose Maiden (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2693384/1/)

I'm thinking of continuing from this fanfic, which does have a lot to deal with the Shiba family. I don't know how familiar some of you are with the current theories going around the forum, but I based the fic on those theories...

I'm just waiting for them to be proven correct! LOL We can only hope, eh?

Entenie
02-03-2006, 07:08 AM
I don't know how familiar some of you are with the current theories going around the forum,
Have you checked my Shiba summary back in post 38 (I think).
Please feel free to check it and add comment to it. I'm aiming to have all the info collected in one post.

About the fanfic.
Nice story!! But ummmm Kaien with orang hair???
It's interesting that in your fanfic Isshin is the older brother of Kaien, Kuukaku etc, I have always thought off a different relationship between Isshin and the siblings.

Miriya
02-08-2006, 01:32 AM
Kaien didn't have orange hair. =P Yoshun was the only one in the family (like Ichigo) with orange hair. ^_^
Oh and I wanted to make a theme for twins...(I'm sure I worded that wrong!)
You know - Karen and Yuzu....Kuukaku and Yoshun. ;) I find Karen and Kuukaku act a little a like and even look like each other.

Btw, in regards to your post, there are some things that I feel need to be corrected...

- In the Soi Fong vs Yoruichi fight, nowhere is it specified (in the manga or anime) that the Shiba family is one of the great four noble familes. Also, nowhere is it suggested that the Bakaratsu family had anything to do with it. I believe Soi Fong's words were 'other than Bakaratsu of the Shihou family, I can't recall any other disgraces to the honourable families.'

- Where was this so called speculation that Kaien's death caused the disgrace of the Shiba family?

- I checked the manga and watched the episode in which Yoruichi and Soi Fong fight...I didn't see any mention of the Shiba family as an example of a fallen noble family.

EDIT

Sorry, I actually did find mention of the Shiba family along with the four noble houses in chapter 154.

Entenie
02-08-2006, 06:54 AM
- In the Soi Fong vs Yoruichi fight, nowhere is it specified (in the manga or anime) that the Shiba family is one of the great four noble familes. Also, nowhere is it suggested that the Bakaratsu family had anything to do with it. I believe Soi Fong's words were 'other than Bakaratsu of the Shihou family, I can't recall any other disgraces to the honourable families.'

- Where was this so called speculation that Kaien's death caused the disgrace of the Shiba family?

- I checked the manga and watched the episode in which Yoruichi and Soi Fong fight...I didn't see any mention of the Shiba family as an example of a fallen noble family.
Well I expected this comment sooner or later the reason for the Bakaratsu thing is because of this.
I don't know if you listen to the Japanese dialogue or just read the fansubs. I believe you've used the Dattebayo fansubs in your post.
In the episode Yoruichi vs Fon Dattebayo indeed translate the sentence as : "other than Bakaratsu of the Shihou Family". BUT if you listen carefully to the dialogue you hear the name of Shiba instead of Shihou. So therefore I think Dattebayo made an typo in that sentence (it explains why they wrote Shihou insted of Shihouin). So I personally think it should have been translated as :..."other than Bakaratsu of the Shiba family.
Just check the episode again and listen carefully at the dialogue. I've did it several times just to make sure of my assumptions, which is backed more with the translation of the anime.

As for the Kaien disgrace. It's an assumption made on this forum in several topics (don't which one anymore though it's been a while)


EDIT

Sorry, I actually did find mention of the Shiba family along with the four noble houses in chapter 154.
Well it turns out that the Shiba family used to be the fifth noble house as stated in the VIBEs Bleach charachter book.

Miriya
02-08-2006, 08:47 PM
You are correct about the mention of 'Shiba' in their conversation. But with all the background noise it's hard to make out and could be a different word that sounds like shiba, or just a different meaning of the word...
But since you mentioned that it was said in VIBE that Shiba was once one of the 'five' noble houses, then I guess the assumption would be correct in this case.

Entenie
02-09-2006, 06:36 AM
You are correct about the mention of 'Shiba' in their conversation. But with all the background noise it's hard to make out and could be a different word that sounds like shiba, or just a different meaning of the word...
But since you mentioned that it was said in VIBE that Shiba was once one of the 'five' noble houses, then I guess the assumption would be correct in this case.
I love it when someones says I'm right...so therefore I love you :toocool:

But whats up with the backgroundnoise, there's none in mine.

Miriya
02-09-2006, 05:59 PM
It's just the music in the scene...That's what I'm talking about. =P

Rokusaburo
02-22-2006, 08:46 PM
Sign me up please, Kuukaku <3

Entenie
02-23-2006, 07:00 AM
Sign me up please, Kuukaku <3
Added.
Welcome to the FC

Miriya
02-23-2006, 08:18 PM
Welcome! ^_^

Entenie
03-28-2006, 06:58 AM
Oh Crap!!
I totally neglected this FC, as I was so focussed on thie Division thingy.
You fellow FC fans are ya still there.
Did any of you downloaded the Bleach character book.
It actually mentioned that the Shiba used to be part of the 5 great nobles, but due to their fall it became the 4 great nobles.

IsshinMan_Hero
03-28-2006, 07:48 AM
Oh!!!! Can I join?! Love the Ganju Kaien and the Kukkaku. Ganju is great comic relief and an even greater pal! Kaien is just hilarious at how he treats Rukia and even heart clenching when she fights for his wife. Kukkaku is very good looking, and very funny as well. Great personalities for each!

Entenie
03-28-2006, 08:44 AM
Added!
Welcome to the club.

IsshinMan_Hero
03-28-2006, 09:03 AM
Yay! Thank you very much =)

Gothic Lolita
08-26-2006, 12:24 PM
Can I join ??? ;)

Entenie
10-16-2006, 12:33 PM
I'm sorry. Been inactive for a while.
But sure you can join.