Episode 68-69 Discussion thread

[asukasun]

the raw: http://bt.saiyaman.info/

*currently downloading the file*:winking56

[Fafara]

What is a Raw?

[lordsmish]

Woot sooo quick looks like 1 hour folks the file size is a bit small for 2

[Ethanol]

What is a Raw?

Raw = no subs

[Fafara]

Raw = no subs

Oh crap. .....

[yunnie]

lol just wait DB will come tommorow just wait, we have to xD

[Ethanol]

Yeah, for me...Bleach comes out Wednesday when they sub it. :)

[Boko]

mm DB rocks on subbing Bleach :P just love bleach

[Shinji]

This should be the end of Rin Rin, right?

[Ethanol]

or at least hopefully the end of that annoying copy guy. I would like to see a bit more of that ninja guy and see what he can do....would rather see him then Rin Rin.

[I fail at life]

Do not speak ill of Rin Rin!

Anyhow,long live 1 hour episodes and dattebayo!

[Ethanol]

I didn't speak ill of her...I just want the ninja to get the same air time as she does. Yachiru > Rin Rin :D

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

Asuka has way too much spare time on their hands to post this the second it comes up, some of us have school. ;p

[Ethanol]

Yeah...luckily for me school ends at 11am on Tuesdays *evil laughter*

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

Ima stab you ;p. Anyways on topic, downloading it. ._.

[Ethanol]

No need to stab me...my mondays make up for it. 9am-2pm 4pm-9pm....yeah, you read that correctly. lol

For those that have seen the new episode, is the filler arc slowly coming to an end or does it look like it will drag on more?

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

No need to stab me...my mondays make up for it. 9am-2pm 4pm-9pm....yeah, you read that correctly. lol
For those that have seen the new episode, is the filler arc slowly coming to an end or does it look like it will drag on more?
I have 8 hours everyday, ;p. Cept for yesterday: snowed; and today was early release. I hope EP70 isn't filler, because the episode description says Rukia in it. If EP70 was a filler it'd ruin the manga-anime story....again.

[asukasun]

Asuka has way too much spare time on their hands to post this the second it comes up, some of us have school. ;p

that´s because in germany it´s already evening :winking56 and so I have got enough time to look for new releases :LOL:

[lordsmish]

I have a week off go holidays

[Renji_Shakkahou]

YAY! That's cool! Although I doubt the fillers eps will be over in the next few eps (even though I'd love the anime to get back to the manga). I really like the fillers but what with the animation sucking, I honestly can't wait for it to get back to the manga.

Hey has anyone got a summary for this double ep? Thanks!

[Shinji]

I have tomorrow off so I think I'll have a bleach fillers-day :)

[SLVR]

Wow. I never epecteed Urahara to be behind it all. And I saw Soi Fong with a Vaentines card. And Rukia saves Ichigo again.

[Bankai!!]

I have no idea if I'm allowed to do this, sorry if not! But here's the summary Renji_Shakkahou asked for, here's the link
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/02/14/bleach-68-69/

If this is inappropriate, please delete!

[lordsmish]

hehehe mod souls
loving the mods
I always expected urahara

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

This one hour special was a waste. *angry* Bunch of poorly drawn animations put together to make 45 minutes of nothing important. I don't like fillers anymore.; ; That one commercial at about the 4 min mark was weird. o_O Herbal Esscense.
EDIT: Oh, and why doesn't Ichigo just use his Bankai..They always do this w/ animes, never show the best abilities until near-death.

[Kenta]

what happened to that back to back 1 hr special? so it wasn't true, was it? :(

anyway, omg, soi fong with a valentine day's card for ME!! *dies* :p:
sorry, can't help myself. :biggrinlo

[Tanya]

what happened to that back to back 1 hr special? so it wasn't true, was it?
There's another 1 hour special coming up next week, hence 'back to back.'

[ADMBird]

read the summary sounds ok.

[Centro]

There's another 1 hour special coming up next week, hence 'back to back.'

No, the next episode (70) is regular length.

[chin]

cant wait to watch it...!!

[RevRuby]

only thing i noticed (needing a sub and all, and i haven't read the summary yet, is that Rin Rin is really Ririn. she spelled her name in hiragana on that letter, ne? i might be wrong, but...i have only watched it once

[Hits]

So Rin Rin and company are on the good side now? Omg...that is lame. -.-
Also, Ichigo attempts to do Bankai without hesitation, Urahara finds out about his inability to do Bankai and everyone finds out about Ishida's lost powers, won't that seriously damage the manga plot that it will have to follow after the fillers?

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

So Rin Rin and company are on the good side now? Omg...that is lame. -.-
Also, Ichigo attempts to do Bankai without hesitation, Urahara finds out about his inability to do Bankai and everyone finds out about Ishida's lost powers, won't that seriously damage the manga plot that it will have to follow after the fillers?
Most likely......unless........oh noes ive discovered there evil plan. They plan to disregard the manga and go apeshit on the anime hacking it to peices until Aizen cries like a little girl. :pangel3: save us from this most horrible fate lol

[Kune]

ZO my EFFIN' G, SPOILER TAGS PLEASE! I mean, it is just a filler arc, but you could at least keep the major suprises of the episode under wraps until the sub is distributed!

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

ZO my EFFIN' G, SPOILER TAGS PLEASE! I mean, it is just a filler arc, but you could at least keep the major suprises of the episode under wraps until the sub is distributed!
i understand the problem because sometimes i come to these threads just to get a feel for the next ep. But seriouslly if you dont want too know whats going to happen in the next episode dont go into the thread thats all about that. Anywhere else yeah spoiler tags would be prudent. But come on the whole idea of this thread is to talk about the ep. whatd you expect would be in here.

[fettel]

its gonna be real interesting to see how they plan on fixing the anime and putting it back on track. anyone whos read to at least chapter 210 knows that there are a few problems existing right now after these two episodes(i guess the way the anime news network had the list set up threw everyone off. i think what they meant was 68 and 69 are part of a 1 hour special. not two separate hour episodes.). they really screwed up the surprise arrivals of certain people that pretty much signals the beginning of the arrancar arc. oh well. least this round of fillers is somewhat over. now its either more fillers to try and bring the anime back to the manga plotline, or finally a start on the new arc...somehow.

[Ken-Chan]

i think they plan on blending the two considering that the title and preview stills of ep 71 are purely manga... i honestly think this is good because i get bored by seeing it exactly the same as i read it in the manga...

but WTF!!!!!????? Rukia at the end, and it's not Claude because he's on their side!!!

WTF!?!?! this really doesn't follow the manga!

[ADMBird]

I fill that this filler arc is really messing with the hole plot in the manga.
Errr...i keap stabbing at the fillers but they wont die.

[fettel]

probably best not to pick at it...causes problems later. anyway, yeah, this whole filler arc is really screwing with the whole 'get back to the manga plotline' thing.

[SumDumGai]

i think they plan on blending the two considering that the title and preview stills of ep 71 are purely manga... i honestly think this is good because i get bored by seeing it exactly the same as i read it in the manga...
but WTF!!!!!????? Rukia at the end, and it can't be Kuroda because he's on their side!!!
WTF!?!?!

Where can you find these preview stills of episode 71??

[trunkster]

I am may going out on a limb, but after watching these fillers and how they can possibly ruin a great kick off of the manga plot, I am hoping Ichigo is going to wake up and have this all be a dream... soon that is what they will have to do for any of this to make sense without changing the manga's plot.
I mean come on, now there are freaking vampire type things. Maybe the next filler plot will feature Frankenstein. I’m glad that I started to read the manga from right before the filler’s point, because usually when animes have these stupid fillers I lose interest in the series fast.

[sohcyou]

so does this mean no episode for next week?

[Kyouka Suigetsu]

I could care less if the fillers synchronize well with the manga plot. My only concern is when they're going to end. There are some things I want to see animated soon. Hopefully, these terrible episodes will be over within a month or a little bit more.

[ashuran]

if the fillers dont end in two weeks im just going to shoot myself to save me the pain of seeing bleach go down hill like the other filler series

[Kenta]

still better than naruto fillers.

[AnimeLoverX]

thats true...
-still dling-
is it good? o_O

[ashuran]

still better than naruto fillers.
well i would agree with you but since ichigo has lost his bankai in this filler arc id have to say they are getting worse then the naruto fillers especially witht he crappy animation we saw in todays ep:sad:

[chin]

the sub is quite late today...

[db]

the sub is quite late today...

Do not post useless posts. Check the release thread since a sub already released 68-69.

[Kune]

Hell-Fansubs just released theirs... Too few seeders. >_>

I always loved how fast Hell speedsubbed, though.

[Kenta]

well i would agree with you but since ichigo has lost his bankai in this filler arc id have to say they are getting worse then the naruto fillers especially witht he crappy animation we saw in todays ep:sad:
they don't want ichigo to use bankai in filler probably because

in the manga, every time he uses bankai, his hollow self tries to come out

waiting for db's release, or even better if lunar decides to do this first before going back to past episodes, they did release 63 a few days ago.

[PiggyWiggy]

DB release is out! Downloading now (2 seeders :O)

[M-50]

Im downloading the subbed version via bittorent.

[Undying]

I'm downloading the subbed too, from DB. And it's sloooow. Oh well, can't complain.

[Ken-Chan]

I'm downloading the subbed too, from DB. And it's sloooow. Oh well, can't complain.
seriously, though, DB is really slow tonight... the torrent that is...
and hell beat them on the realease tonight, too...

let's see, my friend studying in tokyo saw the ep 71 stills in a mag i think... so i was just repeating what he said... i should have him scan it...

Q: so, the way RinRinis now in a plushie like Kon, doesn't that seem like they have to make her part of the show from now on?...

[Kenta]

not enough seeds, guess i will have to try it tomorrow.

i guess urahara will take back the modsouls when this is all said and done. it's sort of sad though because some of us are starting to fall for these new plushies, and then they have to remove it... or maybe they can coexist when they go back to the manga, they can make them just do random uselss things but keep them around.

[yar]

LOL the part with chad and nova was priceless ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChaosSoldier]

man....nothing but crappy animations.....all the characters looks warped in that episode....poorly drawn....im disappointed......fillers suck......sigh*....

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

So Rin Rin and company are on the good side now? Omg...that is lame. -.-
Also, Ichigo attempts to do Bankai without hesitation, Urahara finds out about his inability to do Bankai and everyone finds out about Ishida's lost powers, won't that seriously damage the manga plot that it will have to follow after the fillers?
I'm 10% away from quitting watching Bleach. This is the.... fourth thing they've screwed up and went ahead and spoiled in a freaking filler arc.
The manga is so screwed now. Nothing is going to be surprising.

[Ken-Chan]

i just realized that the second group of three people in the end are Bound

the second three and Claude, RinRin and Nova...

now we've seen two of the first three and they are Bound...
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/cpk10/bleach/bound1.jpgshe fights ichigo
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/cpk10/bleach/bound2.jpghe fights chad and inoue i guess
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/cpk10/bleach/bound3.jpg
i put money on this third guy, the big evil looking one with silver hair, being Dracula :rolleye09


i agree, i am one who likes these new mod souls... i hope they stick around...

maybe they can just fight other people who don't show up in the manga fights but are with the same group... geez, that sentence sucked... was trying to use non-spoiling language... manga readers will hopefully know to whom i was referring...

Chad and Nova and Kon scene was priceless... funniest bit in the ep...

[Chobi]

i just finished watching it and Wow it was a totally awsome episode =)

things finally happened so i wonder if this was the end of the fillers.
but the silent scene with Chad and Nova was to freaking funny xD

[Hansu]

it was the best episode since the closing of the soul society chapter.

[Rabid_Wolverine]

I concur dudes. Best filler so far. I reckon it's the best special so far as well.

[Shinji]

I'm actually looking forward to the next episode.

[Kazien]

The filter ended didn't it?

[Shinji]

The filter ended didn't it?
Filter? Do you mean filler? No, it didn't.

[Onwuachi]

No....No.....Nooooooo......

That was the thing I said after watching the episode.

Poorly animated and all characters poorly designed.

Plus a lame end to the Rin-Rin arc with the cheapest way , the most "cliché " way to end it.


SPOILER






Now they have DESTROYED the greatest plot twist in bleach with the arrival of Rukia, Man the chapter when she arrives at University with Matsumoto, Renji, and the others + Rukian was awesome, now with Rukia and Renji here , there won't be any surprise when they arrive again when the Anime comes back to the story


ENDSPOILER

I'm disapointed right now. Oh well I'm gonna rely on Blood + and Mai OTOME for the few weeks to come ^^

[Chrono Detector]

Not a bad episode, probably one of the better filler episodes I've seen. So we find out that Rinrin and her 2 other friends are actually Urahara's companions. So I guess they weren't the bad guys after all.

So there is another force out there, known as the Bound, a being who consumes human souls. Getting quite interesting. Already we have seen 2 of these antagonists, another one (The one wearing a red jumper/sweater) will be revealed the next episode. I wonder how this will turn out.

Though it had a nice plot, this episode lacked comedy, but the storyline was well structured, so that made up for it.

Thats my two cents. Rating: 8/10

[InsaneShiyn]

wouldn't it be nice if for once they'd use previous opening music(instrumentals) or something as background music for an hour special battle. I'd like to see a passionate fight to a quiet D-Tecnolife. Maybe they'll do something like that for the OVA.

[asukasun]

actually the animation of this episode was bad (like all fillers until now) but I like the upcoming story ... it seems to be interesting (even if Kubo didn´t mention this special Hollow Quincys "Baunto" in the manga)

[noraa]

nice episode

[Kune]

I'm actually liking these fillers. The animation only seemed to be crappy in the first parts of this episode, and after a while it got back up to par. The animation during Ichigo's fight with Doll was particularly impressive. I'm liking the story arc, too... Since Aizen's going to be inactive for a while I think dealing with the issue of spirit vampires makes for a good filler.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and you can't go wrong with 2 Shinigami Cups. The Soifon one was great.

[jussi]

Great episode! It was a surprise that rinrin and the others were with Urahara.
It was funny episode too.

[erosigh]

No....No.....Nooooooo......
That was the thing I said after watching the episode.
Poorly animated and all characters poorly designed.
Plus a lame end to the Rin-Rin arc with the cheapest way , the most "cliché " way to end it.
SPOILER
Now they have DESTROYED the greatest plot twist in bleach with the arrival of Rukia, Man the chapter when she arrives at University with Matsumoto, Renji, and the others + Rukian was awesome, now with Rukia and Renji here , there won't be any surprise when they arrive again when the Anime comes back to the story
ENDSPOILER
I'm disapointed right now. Oh well I'm gonna rely on Blood + and Mai OTOME for the few weeks to come ^^
I agree with u.. 2 much 2 early

[Evil.Rabbit]

This was the best filler in the series thus far. lol @ nova and chad's silent scene... I believe that if you can get into the story, you don't notice the not-so-good animation as before. Though I agree that the animation improved as the show continued.

[Kitanoblade]

Yea best filler so far, they made it really easy for themselves to end the "3 mod soul fillers" , "Oh it was just a training that Uraha prepared" hhhmmm ok whatever. But with Rukias appearance I am really looking forward to the forthcoming episodes ^____^

[Shinji]

I love when Shunsui asked Hitsugaya if he wanted to fight and holding up the sake bottle.

[Offkorn]

So very, very cliche.

The inability to use Bankai is just....rediculous. Not to mention the explanation for not being able to use it.

Also, anyone else notice how the scene between Nanao and Captain Kyouraku was the exact scene from the SS arc with just new dialogue? They completely recycled the entire animation squence.

[yoshie]

[ sort of spoiler ]


i thought that this episode was pretty good. i dont know what people were complaining about.. especially about rukia's return. it's kinda expected, since the bleach intro had a scene of rukia and ichigo going to school. it's bound to happen, doesn't matter if it happened like it did in the filler or if it happened like in the manga.

otherwise this filler arc doesn't look bad at all. i'm looking forward to the next few episodes. my question is that the mod souls are permanently stuck in the dolls? they can't get in their 'human' bodies?

[/ end of sort of spoiler ]

[pilotpete]

Anyone else notice Soi Fon is like um you know. I think that the modified souls were a fun touch and Ririn funny and I thought she was going to replace Rukia sort of but now Rukia is back. The series doesn't stop with the weirdness or random events lol modified souls, vampires, cats female humans, whats next a flying elephant LOL.

[Mazral]

An okay episode :) I rather enjoyed it. Though, I was sort of dissapointed with the way Rukia entered. I liked the way they did it in the manga, but this way is okay with me too I guess.

The arc continues to unfold nicely..and the vampire thing was an interesting twist.

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

That episode was crappy. >.> There will not be any surprise in the anime now, kthxbai.

[Mazral]

The inability to use Bankai is just....rediculous. Not to mention the explanation for not being able to use it.

Personally, I think that it was brilliant. Sure the explanation was sort of lame..but since Ichigo can't use bankai, it gives them room for more fillers about regaining bankai, and him learning to use it better. Also, it keeps Ichigo from defeating the bad guys with too much ease.

I can't tell you how many times people have complained about Naruto using Rasegan too much...just think of Ichigo's bankai like that. If he whipped out bankai everytime he wanted to win a battle..things would get a little ridiculous.

[Cousinit1686]

These fillers have been rather boring, with all the "games"

About Urahara being comrades with the "bad guys"
they did the same exact thing in Yuyu Hakusho.

The fighting was iffy at best

With Bleach being at least 13 more weeks of filler, all I can look foward to is Naruto going back to the manga plot in ~7 weeks.

:(

[fettel]

seriously. if ichigo pulled out bankai for every enemy, it would get severely boring. i just dont know if i like the idea of more fillers. they already ruined the big surprise(i.e. chapter 195). now, they are gonna have a fun time trying to put everything back in their places to get back on the real storyline.
but, sorry, i have to laugh with that last thing about ichigo 'defeating the bad guys with too much ease'. catch up on the manga and just see how things turn out. ichigo ain't no superpowered god.

13 weeks? you mean theres 13 more weeks for them to ruin the possibility of a great return to the manga! no! oh well. least the bleach fillers are better than the naruto ones, although those havent been that bad really. its good seeing everyone else's improvements.

[GeneYuss]

HAHHAHHAHHAAAA! I WAS RIGHT! IT WAS URAHARA THE WHOLE TIME!


Damn I'm good.

[Fafara]

Wasn't bad at all.. However, I think they could've made this episode a normal lenght one.

[Undying]

The one thing I can say about the filler is: the Animation and drawing were bad

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

Personally, I think that it was brilliant. Sure the explanation was sort of lame..but since Ichigo can't use bankai, it gives them room for more fillers about regaining bankai, and him learning to use it better. Also, it keeps Ichigo from defeating the bad guys with too much ease.

I can't tell you how many times people have complained about Naruto using Rasegan too much...just think of Ichigo's bankai like that. If he whipped out bankai everytime he wanted to win a battle..things would get a little ridiculous.
But that's the thing, people like myself don't want to watch FILLERS of Ichigo gaining his bankai back. IMO the main story arcs are way better. To me, gaining his bankai in the first place, was enough. Only thing I see fitting for it, is for Ichigo to train his bankai more, not lose his bankai in some crappy filler arc. Keep in mind, though, various things come to mind of what else the filler arc ruined, Rukia's already back, Renji is, Ishida is already getting alot closer to what he is now in the manga, and understand that alot of this stuff for manga readers isn't pleasing. ; ; It won't be much of a surprise to have them arrive back into the main arcs.

[fettel]

well, it aint the same group of artists, so that explains it. course, it doesnt explain why the heck its taking so long to get the sub. COME ON ALREADY!

i agree Ichigo SS. course, id rather just continue the manga at this point. besides that though, its not like he really LOST it literally. just cant use it. now they are gonna have to have fillers to make him relearn how to use it. psh. the worst thing they could do at this point is have everyone else who arrives in chapter 195 come in at some point in the next filler arc. ugh. least theres still that other surprise that comes in around 186-187. course, manga readers and most people that go to these forums know that one already. heh. these fillers are seriously damaging the good manga storyline.

[Bankai_Zangetsu]

well i read from www.narutowill.com .. (the place where i get my mangas and see when the episodes are out) that the next episode ( 70 ) is actually going to get back on the manga storyline for a little bit .. but judging from the preview / how the episode ended i dont think its gonna get back til the expected 13 or so weeks... can anyone clear this up ..

[Byakuya7]

well i read from www.narutowill.com .. (the place where i get my mangas and see when the episodes are out) that the next episode ( 70 ) is actually going to get back on the manga storyline for a little bit .. but judging from the preview / how the episode ended i dont think its gonna get back til the expected 13 or so weeks... can anyone clear this up ..

From the looks of it, it seems as though the bleach filler may last a little while longer. I seriously doubt that it will end at episode 70 though. Although right now im a little confused because the next episode could tie in with the current manga arc, but it would be really akward to just introduce these new soul sucking villians, and then just defeat them within the next episode.

[Ken-Chan]

abyone else think that the place Uruhara and his mod souls took Ichigo and crew looked like Hueco Mundo? I know it was inside the training center where Uruhara taught Ichigo how to regain his powers, but it really looked like Hueco Mundo... especially the bits of it we saw in the first 4 or 5 episodes...


i know a lot of people just hate going off of the manga for new storylines in the anime, but I think that these fillers are working really well and actually seem to fit into the series really well... they are expanding on characters and ideas that they began in the manga and the first couple of arcs of the anime... i like the three new mod souls and i want them to remain in the series...

yes, the animation quality is less, but it's not unwatchable... i've seen much worse drops... anyone remember the Naruto eps with the fight between Naruto and Sasuke at the waterfall? those were just lightly colored sketches!!!

[Mazral]

sorry, i have to laugh with that last thing about ichigo 'defeating the bad guys with too much ease'. catch up on the manga and just see how things turn out. ichigo ain't no superpowered god.
I'm all caught up on the manga. These are fillers..how powerful a character is doesn't matter anymore. The good guy will win eventually..so in a sense..yes, right now, he is. Or atleast, thats how it is in the Naruto fillers. I haven't seen enough of the Bleach fillers to fully make that conclusion yet..
But that's the thing, people like myself don't want to watch FILLERS of Ichigo gaining his bankai back. IMO the main story arcs are way better. To me, gaining his bankai in the first place, was enough. Only thing I see fitting for it, is for Ichigo to train his bankai more, not lose his bankai in some crappy filler arc.
Well I don't want to watch fillers of Ichigo gaining back bankai either, but it can't be helped. The creators had to think of some way to distance the manga more from the anime.
And, of course the main story arcs are better.
Keep in mind, though, various things come to mind of what else the filler arc ruined, Rukia's already back, Renji is, Ishida is already getting alot closer to what he is now in the manga, and understand that alot of this stuff for manga readers isn't pleasing. ; ; It won't be much of a surprise to have them arrive back into the main arcs
I agree with you. I was very dissapointed with the fact that Renji and Rukia came early. I definitely liked everyones entrance better in the manga.
Also, I have a question...sort of spoilerish
In the manga, does Ichigo know about Ishida losing his Quincy powers yet? I don't remember Ishida ever telling him about it..

[fettel]

it doesnt seem like it. i think ishida kept it a secret in the manga. course, until we get more into his training, we wont see flashbacks of his secret being revealed to everyone. maybe in the next two, we'll see that he told everyone or that urahara or someone let it out. i dont really know which training im lookin forward to more-ishida's, or ichigo's. i was lookin back through startin at around 186 cuz i was bored and i still havent finished DLing the subbed 68-9.

well, as for the fillers, they could follow naruto, and have fillers showin everyone else training and getting better. it would still suck, but its a little better than watching ichigo get his bankai back for 13 episodes.

[Cold-Jager]

Why are people complaining about a slow release? its a one hour special normaly they take a day longer to come out with subs or as i recall when they took 4 days once. This was not by any means slow. in fact i was surprised that dattebayo even had it out this morning. So please dattebayo and hells just put in a long hard night of subbing to get it out early as possible and yet people say its slow. Show some respect

As for the animation... yeah... very bad, ive seen worse drops tho. I thought that the bit about the bounds /vampires can make entertaining fillers, i mean vampires do fit in with the afterlife and makes for some more action. We finally got to see ichigo fight again, and yeah ichigo losing his bankai will by the manga some time. Id rather watch this quallity of filler then have them make awsome manga episodes, catch the manga and then have to stop the series of bleach.

fillers are just always going to happen. No one loves them. We all hate them. Your choices are read the manga. get a life besides anime. sleep for 13 weeks straight. Or be like most of us and try and work with the fact that at least the anime is giving us a halfway decient storyline that can hold our interest until the manga can get ahead. choice is yours. Fillers are better then production being halted... keep that in mind

[Miriya]

I'd like to know what the hell is up with Ukitake and the candy...

XD lol

[Cousinit1686]

In the manga, Inoue accidently tells the guys how Ishida lost his powers

[chin]

wakakaka... i like this episode... yoruichi, soi fong, and rukia coming on next week... cant wait to see her again man~!! it's funny...
esp when soi fong tries to give present to yoruichi...

[thatbabo]

ughhh...did anyone else see the opening two or three minutes? who the hell were those guys? I understand that fillers are a necessary evil so that the manga can get some space between the tv series...but the animation was just downright crap this episode...

the longer the fillers go on, the more and more it seems their going to work around the manga (ie. Renji's appearance, Ishida's powers, and now Rukia)...as lame as it may sound (and I'm aware that it is VERY LAME), I hope ten episodes from now (or however many more the fillers are going to run) Ichigo wakes up and says, "man that was one crazy dream...I shouldn't have had those chili-cheese fries before I went to bed"...

WTF is Ukitake's deal? Because now it's just getting kinda...weird...

Hmmm..chili-cheese fries sound good about now...

[Kazuya]

I don`t think this episode is craps i like it. And now we know who these stuffed animals are ^^

[johyongil]

hey..dunno why ppl were surprised by the three dolls in the ending being the dolls that were used for the three new mod souls..but maybe it didn't occur to ppl to see it that way..i mean, the ending has to have SOMETHING to do with the filler yes? and why else would Kon be there? anyhow...look, ichigo can't do bankai...oooo big surprise. look at what happened in the manga...and look at what's happening now. it's not hard to guess why he can't do it; so, as far as that parts concerned...doesn't anyone thing they're doing a better job putting that in...? and as far as the other soul society ppl...yea. they could have done it better....but i bet they're dumbing it down for something better....hopefully.


but even more than that, im really hoping to urahara in action...

and even more than that....a certain someone else who hasn't been seen in action yet. i dunno how to use spoiler tags so i won't say it....but omgosh if they put it in, imma be excittttttted. hint for what im waiting for : the fisher's gonna slaughtered.....^^

[Offkorn]

but since Ichigo can't use bankai, it gives them room for more fillers about regaining bankai, and him learning to use it better.

Fillers are bad M'Kay.

I can't tell you how many times people have complained about Naruto using Rasegan too much...just think of Ichigo's bankai like that. If he whipped out bankai everytime he wanted to win a battle..things would get a little ridiculous.

That raises the question: Do you think the Manga is rediculous?

Since that's what he does now in the manga.

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

I'm all caught up on the manga. These are fillers..how powerful a character is doesn't matter anymore. The good guy will win eventually..so in a sense..yes, right now, he is. Or atleast, thats how it is in the Naruto fillers. I haven't seen enough of the Bleach fillers to fully make that conclusion yet..
Well I don't want to watch fillers of Ichigo gaining back bankai either, but it can't be helped. The creators had to think of some way to distance the manga more from the anime.
And, of course the main story arcs are better.
I agree with you. I was very dissapointed with the fact that Renji and Rukia came early. I definitely liked everyones entrance better in the manga.
Also, I have a question...sort of spoilerish
In the manga, does Ichigo know about Ishida losing his Quincy powers yet? I don't remember Ishida ever telling him about it..
Well, I don't believe so, but Ishida seeing his father and turning against Ichigo will probably get screwed up as well.

[Kuchiki-Sama]

Just saw the episode.

Ririn, Claude & Nova working for Urahara and testing Ichigo: Lame.

Ichigo fighting vampires: Okay.

Rukia suddenly showing up: WTF?!

[geyut]

It was cool. Wasn't bad.

I noticed that while Chad was getting the little stuffed animal for Nova, there was the MY PACE song playing, lol :p:
Bound seem interesting.

[Nood]

Worst special ever.
It was not a good episode.
Hide mod souls in stuffed animals...why? So they cant use their powers?
Probably a guy walking with a little girl loox more normal than a guy walking with a talking and walking stuffed animal. It had no point at all.
The Bound, yeah they r cool...vampires...yeah.
Not to mention theres a huge plothole in the story of them.
They said that normally bound are eating dead ppl's souls, but now they started to eat living souls.
But pls tell me why they called them vampires when they were eating dead ppls souls? Yeah its pretty looking vampire-ish when they kill a living person for hes soul. but i never heard of "A vamprie attacked a dead man" or something.
And the ending....Ichigo couldnt move because 3-4 spars and whatnot was over him...i think Ichigo could blow up a mountain with simply hes reiatsu, but 3-4 woodstick can stick him to the ground and make him unable to move.

[Ethanol]

I was wondering that same thing....a couple of wooden beams can pin him down??? *shrugs* Who knows.
The Bound being called vampires was I guess to just give them some other name, since you see the female Bound attempt to suck the soul through the neck. *rollseyes*
I was laughing when I heard the my pace song while Chad was getting the doll for Nova. That and when he finally put the soul in the doll and they just stared at each other for a minute or two. lol

Question, wtf was that green guy in the lab where Ukitake was?

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

I was wondering that same thing....a couple of wooden beams can pin him down??? *shrugs* Who knows.
The Bound being called vampires was I guess to just give them some other name, since you see the female Bound attempt to suck the soul through the neck. *rollseyes*
I was laughing when I heard the my pace song while Chad was getting the doll for Nova. That and when he finally put the soul in the doll and they just stared at each other for a minute or two. lol
Question, wtf was that green guy in the lab where Ukitake was?
No idea what the green guy was. Maybe a Mayuri cronie lol.

[Ethanol]

Yeah, the whole cranking his eye out of his socket to look at the screen made me go "ok...."

[Nood]

Yeah, i just remembered that thing...im so happy that now bleach are going to be a dbz clone with animalhuman hybrids and stuff like that lol...a weird scientist is okay, one furyy wolfguy is okay but comeon what the holy hell was that thing there, why they didnt just put a normal shinigami there...

also, its so uber that the animation was so low, and they couldnt draw Urahara's hat correctly not even once.

[Injektilo]

He's just some random 12th Division scientist, he's popped up a couple of times in the Manga.

[T_Ichigo]

The point with these stuffed animals, Claude, Nova and Rinrin is to sens spiritual output .. maybe Urahara has the confidence on Ichigo & Co, that's why he let them fight without Rinrin and Co's help. Apropos of bounds .. yes, they normally eat souls after humans death, and there's nothing wierd that they are able to eat souls from living humans .. with a thought of their eternal lives, they would easily gain experience and become stronger.
The "vampire-title", you don't have to make it that complicated .. they have been called vampires, because of theirs eternal life ... that's it, in other case, they're not vampire .. but bounds, and bounds can attack a dead man whenever they feel hungry.
AS you heard, Ichigo is not strong like he was in soul-society, that's why Renji was send to the real world, in order to see how Ichigo's feeling after a long period in soul-society ... there's a connection between one's shinigami's power and the worlds. Ichigo has to completely master his power at the human-world to charge his reitasu whenever he wants, like Urahara said, he must find himself.

[Nood]

The point with these stuffed animals, Claude, Nova and Rinrin is to sens spiritual output .. maybe Urahara has the confidence on Ichigo & Co, that's why he let them fight without Rinrin and Co's help. Apropos of bounds .. yes, they normally eat souls after humans death, and there's nothing wierd that they are able to eat souls from living humans .. with a thought of their eternal lives, they would easily gain experience and become stronger.
The "vampire-title", you don't have to make it that complicated .. they have been called vampires, because of theirs eternal life ... that's it, in other case, they're not vampire .. but bounds, and bounds can attack a dead man whenever they feel hungry.
AS you heard, Ichigo is not strong like he was in soul-society, that's why Renji was send to the real world, in order to see how Ichigo's feeling after a long period in soul-society ... there's a connection between one's shinigami's power and the worlds. Ichigo has to completely master his power at the human-world to charge his reitasu whenever he wants, like Urahara said, he must find himself.

He still could do getsuga tenshou, shunpo and everything. So that was simply stupid to give Rukia a "good" entrance.
Yeah sucking out the life form the opponents target isnt what vampires do.
IFs omeone is immortal we wouldnt call it a vampire, we would call it an immortal.

[Offkorn]

AS you heard, Ichigo is not strong like he was in soul-society, that's why Renji was send to the real world, in order to see how Ichigo's feeling after a long period in soul-society ... there's a connection between one's shinigami's power and the worlds. Ichigo has to completely master his power at the human-world to charge his reitasu whenever he wants, like Urahara said, he must find himself.

That all happens to be filler justification. None of it is in the manga, and none of it even makes any sense.

[choking]

the mod souls were totally different being good guys and all... it was fun... but the fillers arent gonna end! (sighs)

[Kuchiki-Sama]

Question, wtf was that green guy in the lab where Ukitake was?
He appeared in the manga before. The anime left out a few scenes where this guy is examining Rukias gigai and doing other science stuff. Not a very important person and I was in fact glad that the anime left him out until now...

[ADMBird]

rukia showing up is so stupid.

[sparkle_freeze]

the Bound thing is un-Bleach like.. At least Rukia's back though I agree it was a stupid entry.. Ichigo looked utterly helpless.. Didn't like that..

[Nood]

Guys you should already knew that the fillers not gonna end. They need to fill up 1 whole year in the anime, and...from the 365 days probably we r at the 5th.

[Lethe]

just watched the eps...

wasnt that bad (i guess...)

[Ulquoirra]

I didn't have a problem with the episode, I think that will have to tie in the manga and the anime I am just hopeing it doesen't ruin the manga, since I am a manga reader as well.

[ADMBird]

i hope it does'nt mess with the manga too i want the fillers to be over they were not that bad when they started but after awile you just want them dead.

[unwaken]

Sighs....

Ichigo just had to get the irritating one. -_-

[Tatsumaru_Ishida]

i sorta glad ichigo cant use his bankai, i heavent read the manga so shikai was a cool surprise then when i first heard bout bankai's i was sorta reminded of DBZ's super saiyan and i thought yeah there gunna have to make the bad guys tougher then the good guys get tougher and the whole thing repeats until their like gods....(which at the moment they have avoided in bleach)

At least if he's not able to use it, something like that won't happen.

Overall i thought the episode was okay, at least we have bleach episodes to watch unlike other series which just stop for half a year.....

[Ulquoirra]

I just can't wait to see him start to train again for Bankai I want to see him master it.

[Shinji]

Sighs....
Ichigo just had to get the irritating one. -_-
Well, they are pretty alike in terms of irritation -_-

[Orcrist]

Agree, I look forward to see him train for Bankai again. Good move they did with the spoilers, just to keep it intresting. Hope they let him get more moves while hes at it too. Prolly won't happen tho. :(

Great epi btw, love the return of Rukia (love her :D)).

[Byakuya7]

I just love hearing these negative responses. "oh no its the end of the world, the animation sucked! the filler sucks." Get over it people, filler is supposed to suck so theres no use in dwelling on the episodes negative aspects. I thought the episode was very well done and I ignored the sudden drop in the animation quality as well as the cheesy stunt that Urahara pulled, and just moved on. Why cant everyone else do the same? Bleach isnt going anywhere, and I doubt that even 10 more fillers of this caliber would even put a dent in Bleach's popularity.

[Nood]

Than dwelling on the episodes positive aspects is good?
No.
So probably this thread is pointless. Everyone say what he thinks about the fillers, even you. So just ignore the fact that 70% of the ppls hate the fillers and say what you want, not that "you ppls shouldnt say what you think"...

[Byakuya7]

Than dwelling on the episodes positive aspects is good?
No.
So probably this thread is pointless. Everyone say what he thinks about the fillers, even you. So just ignore the fact that 70% of the ppls hate the fillers and say what you want, not that "you ppls shouldnt say what you think"...

Spreading positivity is always better than spreading negativity, if you cant even acknowledge this simple concept then you arent capable of interpreting what I have to say. An opinion is an opinion and I value that as much as the next person. However, when certain individuals dwell on the negative attributes of an episode or a filler arc, it tends to get on other peoples nerves. Now you're saying that I should ignore the flood of negative opinions, when half of them are just an inept excuse of conforming with the rest of the filler hating crowd. By all means say what you think, but dont perpetuate to a point where it becomes irritating and ruins the bleach experience for everyone.

[Captain BenZ]

Hey, umm... is it me or is the download link for episodes 68-69 from Dattebayo on the Bleach Portal homepage not working? If anyone can find me a working link, and from dattebayo subs, I would highly appreciate it, thank you. I wouldn't mind doing the search myself but I don't have time to do that since I'm a little busy doing some essays. ^^;;

[Byakuya7]

Try going to AnimeSuki, heres the link. It seems to be working fine.

http://animesuki.sandwich.net/releases.php/b.html

[Captain BenZ]

It says it's not working for me, I get this... XML error or something. Man, what the hell is going on, same thing happened when I tried clicking the link for dattebayo on Bleach Portal...

[Kenta]

You know, these dolls can make a separate anime by themselves with Kon as the main character. Wouldn't that be funny? :LOL:

[Ethanol]

You know, these dolls can make a separate anime by themselves with Kon as the main character. Wouldn't that be funny? :LOL:

Shhh someone might hear you and next thing you know there is an anime named "My Pace" LOL

[Cousinit1686]

You know, these dolls can make a separate anime by themselves with Kon as the main character. Wouldn't that be funny? :LOL:


Sorry that'd be a waste of ink and life itself.
(down with fillers, up with manga!)

[Kyouka Suigetsu]

The fillers are actually ok now that there's some action. My main complaint with them before was the lack of things getting sliced in half or exploding. While the plot is ok, I think they pulled this little side-story off without detracting too much from the manga.

[Sandal Hat]

I am actually like the bleach fillers. Of course, they don't HAVE to take up 365 days, if the manga gets far enough ahead they can have a time skip or something.

[Kyouka Suigetsu]

Well, I hope they move onto the manga arc after this whole thing with the "Bound" is done. They should only need three to five more episodes to tie the thing up. How long do you think they will actually take though? I think the manga is sufficiently ahead now.

[Lenne]

like what the hell? Rukia appears? how stupid, it is totally messing with the original storyline.

[ChansteR]

Well the anime doesnt always have to go with manga does it and now I know why they kept on showing them dolls at the ending. But you have to say, that doll that the Bound has looks pretty damn cool

The shinigami cup was kinda funny, Ukitate and Hitsugaya the white hair thing lol

[chin]

it could be the author's intention to "mess" with the manga...
just love the shinigami cup... kaka...

[Hits]

The fillers have made the anime go way off course. I don't think they will follow the manga percisely, there will be a lot of plot changes in the next arc.

But I really like this filler. It gives the original main supporting cast(Orhime, Chad, Ishida and Rukia) a chance to shine and fight. But the whole deal with Rukia returning is a bit odd. [manga]How will Hitsugaya, Matsumoto and the other two 11th division guys be intrudoced?[/spoiler]

[Lovekiller93]

It'll be hard to introduce the other Shinigami's i guess.. but it turns boring if the anime follows the manga exactly.. it'll bound to go off course sometimes anyways

[captain_soifon]

HEY GUYS im back after me holidays =), umm what have i missed and is the spoilers over? thnx in advance for informing me =)

[Marke]

if with Spoilers you mean Fillers? then no.

thoe i like the fillers more now

[captain_soifon]

opps lol yea i mean fillers, better than story?..... interesting

also which eps does it resume on the main story again?

=[ please answer i wanna start to dl soon

[Munky]

I hear that there will be 13 in total filler episodes. But Rukia's back and thats OK for me. ^_^

[captain_soifon]

opps i misread fillers aint over =o, is each filler ep diff or is it continous (i know i cant spell) from the next?

[Marke]

there is new fillers. but Now it involves some pepole from Soul Soceity... like Soi Fong and Yoruichi thank the gods!

wich makes it more enjoyble to watch atleast for me

[chakra25]

I think the filler episodes for Bleach is doing very well. It's alot better than the Naruto fillers. Makes me wonder if the same Naruto team worked on Bleach filler. I give the Bleach team alot of credit because it's alot harder to make fillers compared to Naruto. Bleach team got really creative and took some risks. Naruto team could have gotten creative instead of pumping repetitive missions, one after the other. :(

If I hadn't read the Bleach forums, I couldn't tell we hit filler.

It looks like the whole thing was planned out well ahead. Instead of focusing only on Rin Rin as main villian, they turned it around and made it a setup by Urahara. Then throwing in the Bound thing was awesome. Now it becomes like Hell Sing where "vampires" are involved and the shinigami must hunt them. Unlike the shinigama (spirit form), the bounds have physical bodies. It's getting very interesting. I don't mind watching Bleach fillers if they were this good. Of course, I don't read the manga. Just be glad they didn't dump a pointless Don Konan'ji in fillers. :D

[Undying]

Believe me, chakra25, the original storyline is a 65327865271865478923 times better than those fillers. Believe me, you have no idea what re you missing.

[SumDumGai]

Think the reason why so many manga readers are mad about these fillers is because if you think about how the anime will be when the current manga arc is animated, it will be a lot better than the Soul Society arc (which of course was great).

So when you watch these fillers they're just a joke compared to all the plot twists and character development that is happening in the manga right now.

[scared_link]

I'm sorry but that episode is not okay! Why did Urahara bow down to Ichigo? He's stronger than him. Then Ichigo can't use his bankai. Has Noriyuki lost his marbles? Anyway the episode was crap. I did not like the shinigamis and mod souls battle. That new person looks bloody wicked! Also that music, that music p00nd! The mod souls going into stuffed animals were pretty good. They looked so wicked. Nova looked hilarious. The ending sucked! How the hell can Rukia be back? They're spoiling the manga timeline. But the ending where Soi Fong wanted to give Yourichi that valentine card was hilarious!

[Hits]

I'm sorry but that episode is not okay! Why did Urahara bow down to Ichigo? He's stronger than him. Then Ichigo can't use his bankai. Has Noriyuki lost his marbles? Anyway the episode was crap. I did not like the shinigamis and mod souls battle. That new person looks bloody wicked! Also that music, that music p00nd! The mod souls going into stuffed animals were pretty good. They looked so wicked. Nova looked hilarious. The ending sucked! How the hell can Rukia be back? They're spoiling the manga timeline. But the ending where Soi Fong wanted to give Yourichi that valentine card was hilarious!
They made Urahara bow down for comic relief. Ichigo not able to use his bankai plays a big part in the plot and in the next storyline involving Aizen.

[chakra25]

@ scared_link

Urahara did explain why Ichigo couldn't use his bankai... he's in the human world now. It requires more strength to achieve bankai in human world. So he needs more training... :) If Ichigo can get bankai in human world, he should be able to dominate in soul society.

Don't worry as long as they tie up the loose ends of the filler into the manga, everything should be fine. It's not like they killed of Rukia.

That's why it's called filler; it's not supposed to use manga material.

[Shihouin Yoruichi]

About this episode, Yoruichi and Urahara were as cool as ever!
Even though it's true, I didn't like it when they said those things about Ishida, like: "you don't have any abilities". :(

But I was so surprised to see Rukia back, I really didn't expect her to come back so soon :D.

[Ethanol]

Yeah, it was great to see more of Urahara and Yoruichi in the episode. I was surprised to see Rukia back already. (( being a semi-manga reader ))

[Bleach(ed)]

Agreed....But why rukia?

[Captain BenZ]

OK, I don't know what is going on, I turned off firewalls and I still haven't been able to D/L Bleach episodes through bitorrent so anybody know what the problem is? Also, since I can't get it through bittorrent, I want to find out where I can D/L it directly if my current situation isn't resolved.

[Abarai Renji]

it reminds me alot of the arch in yu yu hakusho in the begining of the chapter black saga were yusuke has to fight these 3 phycics,that could have eaisly killled yusuke and the group. the end it was to teach a lesson.i laughed when chad put nova in the stuffed animal, it was like 5 seconds at least of nothing but total silence. i love the shinigami cup at the end of the episodes. there always funny, like when soi fon (is soi fon and yourichi like mother and daugther relationship?) gives yourichi valentines day choclates. (when i saw that i was thinking that soi fon was a lesbo cause of yourichi saying cloths are a drag then soi fon had that the red blush look on her face) i also love it how utakie gives hitsuguya the candy.

[Ti1301]

drawing quality went down. Me no like.

[fettel]

maybe so, but we need to get these out of the way so we can get back to the good stuff. and while this Bound stuff sounds interesting, it doesnt hold candle. but, its much more Shinigami Cup Golden, so its all good. i kinda doubt the Soi Fon-Yoruichi thing is mother-daughter, mostly cuz we already got that pink-haired aggressive lesbo. but either way its good. but the stuff between ukitake and hitsu is great. freakin MJ man! come to Neverland and Ill give you a lollipop!

[Lovekiller93]

Wah.. So many people said they don't like it? I thought it was pretty good.. Yay~ Rukia's back~

[_senbonzakura_]

Wah.. So many people said they don't like it? I thought it was pretty good.. Yay~ Rukia's back~
thats maybe the only good thing...but otherways...the action freezed.....

[UraharaTenchou]

hmm, i'm quite surprised by that set-up by kisuke! who on earth would have thought it's him planning all this..i wonder what's the intention..

anyway, it was a good filler compared to the rest. hopefully the upcoming ones will be better. i'm manga reader though, i really hope the fillers will end..

[Ichigo Soul Slayer]

We don't like that Rukia's back because fillers are screwing w/ the manga.

[Saori]

I agree! The manga plot is going to be ruined! And why is Rukia back anyways? Not that I'm not happy to see her back... but the episode just seemed to be lacking something....

And they're now adding vampires into this?

[Byakuya7]

I agree! The manga plot is going to be ruined! And why is Rukia back anyways? Not that I'm not happy to see her back... but the episode just seemed to be lacking something....

And they're now adding vampires into this?


The manga plot will not be ruined! Stop overreacting. This is whats going to happen most likely. Theres going to be at least 10 to 15 more filler episodes that will be a series of battles against the Bounds and all that good filler junk. Rukia will come back, help Ichigo, and they will exterminate the Bound, only to hear at the end of the filler.....That Aizen is plotting something. Big surprise. The part that is making everyone upset is the order in which Rukia and Renji came to the material world. Is this really that significant? The animators will most likely skip over this little part and introduce the rest of the people that will come in to the current manga arc.

From there the action will start, everything will intertwine and the manga arc will be set in motion. The bound will be non existant, and the mod souls will somehow disappear so that they do not interfere with the current story. Ichigo will regain his ban kai and all will go smoothly...Yes I know I'm being optimistic but im standing behind this because I doubt that the filler will be spread throughout the episodes, but rather done in a huge chunk to give the manga some time to get ahead. From there the animators will obviously realize their mistake, and slow down their pace of 4 to 5 chapters an episode and do only 1.5 to 2 chapters. Thats my view on how it will go..

[ade.hell]

Yup .
They must slow down.
Besides we should be really happy, that the anime story resembles somewhat of manga. Some series didn't have so much luck.
But those fillers now just suck in drawing!!!! Renji and Ichigo are standing near eachother and they seem to be the same size (Renji 188cm, Ichigo 164cm)!!! The story is so boring and stupid and teaching and ... I don't know...

[Ti1301]

bettre question, why didn't renji use his bankai, i hear his excse, but it wasn;'t good enouogh

[Byakuya7]

bettre question, why didn't renji use his bankai, i hear his excse, but it wasn;'t good enouogh

I guess the filler is being very cautious when it comes to releasing ban kai within the filler arc.

[Ethanol]

bettre question, why didn't renji use his bankai, i hear his excse, but it wasn;'t good enouogh

I think I remember Renji saying he didnt want to use it because he hadn't really learned how to properly control it yet...or something like that.

[Lovekiller93]

Even if he did use it he wouldn't be that strong.. considering his powers are limited..

[ade.hell]

Yeah, that's possible, but
And I also do not understand, why Renji wasn't asked to train his bankai, to learn, how to use it properly? He's also on their side. In anime he was even called Ichigo's sibling... It sounded, like the only person, who would be usefull around there is only Ichigo. That doesn't make sence.

[Undying]

Yeah, I wondered about it too, seeing as Ichigo's classmates should know enough about him to realize he has no brothers... As for Bankai inablity... yeah, that was something idiotic, but if ichigo would've released Bankai he'd eat each and every one of his enemies (thosei n the fillers, Bounds and the Mod Souls) for breakfast. That's why they removed it. And Renji didn't use Bankai... well, basicaly he can use it, but the Animators obviously didn't let him use it for the same reasons as Ichigo - ownage of enemies. I, too, hope that the fillers will end soon and the Anime slows down (come on... they just have to drag each battle scene a bit more and each episode will cover no more than 1.5 Manga chapters if that).

[Behold the Void]

Ichigo never said Renji was his brother, as I recall, just a family member. That could easily mean cousin or something like that. I think it's just the teacher that calls them the Kurosaki brothers, probably because of how they act towards each other. I mean really, they're on the same basic mentality level.

Remember also that they've made a rather big deal about how Aizen can't use the Hogyoku for a year. That makes it pretty easy for them to work it in, Ichigo will see Rukia now, they'll beat down the bound or whatever, and then about a year later the manga will pick up. It'll still involve the same reaction since it will have been quite some time since he last saw her.

[Byakuya7]

Ichigo never said Renji was his brother, as I recall, just a family member. That could easily mean cousin or something like that. I think it's just the teacher that calls them the Kurosaki brothers, probably because of how they act towards each other. I mean really, they're on the same basic mentality level.

Remember also that they've made a rather big deal about how Aizen can't use the Hogyoku for a year. That makes it pretty easy for them to work it in, Ichigo will see Rukia now, they'll beat down the bound or whatever, and then about a year later the manga will pick up. It'll still involve the same reaction since it will have been quite some time since he last saw her.


Why are people taking the Kurosaki brothers thing so seriously? The teacher just probably thinks they are brothers because of the way they act. And there is plenty of room for the filler to be worked in for the exact same reasons that you mentioned, so I dont really understand why people are stressing that a few filler episodes will completely destroy bleach, when everything can be worked out so easily.

[Tensa Zangetsu]

Was i asleep or something where an admin said tell everybody the plot without using spoilers or is it just national be an ass day?

[Byakuya7]

Was i asleep or something where an admin said tell everybody the plot without using spoilers or is it just national be an ass day?

Those that are discussing the anime plot have a right to because most people have seen the recent episodes, and they have been given enough time to download and watch it. Those that are discussing the manga have no right to do so without including a spoiler tag. In my previous posts I discussed what I thought would happen but I did not hint at any events that would take place in the manga, just to clear that up.

[dragoneyes001]

whats really wrong in all of this is ichigo getting so easily left in the dust by the mod souls.

the guy can efectively go toe to toe vs capt's he slaughters hollows others couldnt he has a hidden power that manifests itself when he's in trouble but along come some mod souls and suddenly hes an incompetant boob swinging a big sword!

[Leathlord]

Can anyone help me? For some reason I cant watch DB or Hellfansubs. I used to be able to watch hellsfansubs but it doesnt work anymore. I can only watch bleach society because it is the only one that works still.

[Ethanol]

whats really wrong in all of this is ichigo getting so easily left in the dust by the mod souls.
the guy can efectively go toe to toe vs capt's he slaughters hollows others couldnt he has a hidden power that manifests itself when he's in trouble but along come some mod souls and suddenly hes an incompetant boob swinging a big sword!

It's fillers...its not supposed to make sense. lol Ichigo should be able to wipe out some mod souls, but they need to stretch the episodes out more.

[Byakuya7]

whats really wrong in all of this is ichigo getting so easily left in the dust by the mod souls.
the guy can efectively go toe to toe vs capt's he slaughters hollows others couldnt he has a hidden power that manifests itself when he's in trouble but along come some mod souls and suddenly hes an incompetant boob swinging a big sword!

The mod souls arent necessarily stronger than Ichigo, they probably just have fighting techniques that dont allow shinigami to fight them. Like Ururu, she has anti death god fighting abilities, and it could be similar for the mod souls as well. And get used to Ichigo being incompetent once the manga arc gets animated.

[M_Ghey]

Yes, Urahara probably made them impregnable to shinigami powers, so that Ichigo doesn't swiftly destroy them.

[Finder_truth]

Well its good to find out about the Mod souls but what do you thinks gonna happen with the bound?

[Tanya]

I didn't like this episode. In the first one (Episode 68), omg that was gay. I really didn't like it when everyone foudn out Ishida was powerless, then Ichigo goes,"you have rely on us blah blah something along those lines bcuz I really don't remember." Too touchy for him, IMO. Episode 69 gets better, though. Nova is the best looking stuffed animal out of the 3, lol. And did anyone notice that at the end of Episode 63, where they show the previews for the next episode, it has scenes of that woman bound and her fire thing fighting with Ichigo?

[_senbonzakura_]

Well its good to find out about the Mod souls but what do you thinks gonna happen with the bound?
bounds are going to be defeted and spaced out.../i hope so /

[Kenta]

ichigo being a noob is done on purpose. he's so hotheaded and can't think calmly that when the fight isn't about strength, he can't do nothing. this is a big problem with ichigo that he has to overcome. he has plenty of raw power that can beat the best of them, but he lacks composure and experience. i'm sure these fillers will show us a little bit of maturity in ichigo which will lead him into the manga arc.

[WizKid77]

And did anyone notice that at the end of Episode 63, where they show the previews for the next episode, it has scenes of that woman bound and her fire thing fighting with Ichigo?
Yeah I noticed that too. That's why I was so confused when Ririn, Claude, and Nova showed up. I think the reason Ichigo couldn't beat them was because I don't think he was really fighting with either his heart or his head. So it seems like he wasn't all too serious about fighting these three.

I still hate the fact that the new mod souls are going to be stuffed animals. They better just stay for the filler arc, they're shouldn't be anymore talking stuffed animals besides Kon. It's kindof wierd that Chad and Nova were paired up together since they're both the quiet ones. Anyone notice that?

The whole thing with the bounds sound intresting I guess. But why living souls now all of a sudden? And why is it becoming such a fuss up in Soul Society? I mean it doesn't seem big enough to close the gates over. I honestly don't have much of any predictions at the moment.

[ultimate]

The whole thing with the bounds sound intresting I guess. But why living souls now all of a sudden? And why is it becoming such a fuss up in Soul Society? I mean it doesn't seem big enough to close the gates over. I honestly don't have much of any predictions at the moment. actually i think ukitake said that when they closed the gates the bound began to appear... it is a fuss cos the bound are now eating living souls... i am going to predict that its some kinda food chain thing which made the bound begin eating living souls... btw i hope the new mod souls only appear in the filler arc and that the bound will be good villains

[Thaliel]

all I have to say after seeing this is: WHAT THE HELLL???!!!

[Ethanol]

I laughed when Chad and Nova were paired up. It was funny seeing them just stare at each other when Nova awoke in the stuffed animal until Kon stepped in. lol

[Ulquoirra]

I have a feeling unless this already said, that they will wrap up the bound thing in a couple of episodes, and then I think that it will start the training for bankai again, and more charcter devolpments. Remember he said while in the area there, where ichigo was training the first time. azien has about a year left till he can use it. So I would love to see more training and mastering of moves during that time.

[ade.hell]

I only hope next episodes will be more interesting...

[Byakuya7]

I only hope next episodes will be more interesting...

Yes, just count on the bound thing to take at least 4 to 5 episodes, just like the mod souls, before anything becomes interesting.

[aerikh]

well actually d fillers r rather amusing..i still look forward to them in earnest.. as i did with the episode last time.. i guess i made the 'mistake' of reading the manga.. so the element of surprise wasn't there.. like i couldn't just feel SHOCKED at aizen's appearance/betrayal while watching the anime (coz i knew that from the manga).. but the filler episodes r bringing back the times when we used to guess about the plot, etc..

about ep. 68-69, urahara did mention that hougyoku still has 1 year of preparation left.. so renji & rukia's appearance shouldn't distort the storyline much.. besides, they can now expand the ichigo's bankai training storyline, NoName's & Zangetsu-san should make an appearance too (i miss them) :p

besides, in the manga, we were shocked when renji came down, coz he came with yumichika, mastumoto, ikkaku & hitsugaya.. & the part when he waits outside Urahara's shop; well maybe he doens't wanna b a freeloader anymore.. Rukia's appearance later on at the window sill should be unexpected too,

coz Rukia's purpose coming down to Earth (sounds like she's an alien, LOL) might be to get Renji back, or to drop by Urahara's.. coz she's not in shinigami attire.. n i don't recall her getting out of her gigai.. so everything should be ok, storyline-wise, without disturbing the flow.

besides, we can now look forward to Isshin's appearance! & Ryuuken's too..

anyway, the animation was rather dodgy sometimes, but i'll live through it.. Bleach still scores from the hilarious scenes (sado & nova, yoruichi & soifong, ukitake & hitsu).. so all's not lost, fellow bleach lovers! :) hmm...btw, does anyone get an 'uplifting sentimental' feeling when the MY PACE song was played during the scene where Sado's looking for a doll? hehe...i did! can't explain y, though..

phew, super long post... :p: anyway, don't think of the fillers as FILLERS, guys..enjoy the show! it's better than having 1 episode a month to wait for the manga, rite? :p

[vision33r]

This is one of the few anime TV series that waste so much time on fillers. Look at Gundam Seed, never a single TV episode wasted on filler, maybe one review episode but that's it.

The story is getting weaker and weaker, the animation is still worse than the 1st 60+ episode.

The story is sounds so lame, all these years and Soul Society has never seen or fought a Bound, now they appear gimme a break.

Fillers killed naruto and Bleach is approaching that.. pretty soon the Die hard Bleach fans will get tired of the messy change of plot.

[SumDumGai]

btw, does anyone get an 'uplifting sentimental' feeling when the MY PACE song was played during the scene where Sado's looking for a doll? hehe...i did! can't explain y, though..


I get the feeling that i accidently downloaded a japanese dubbed Sesame Street when i see it.:sad:

I hope they dont take out the big shinigami arrival from the manga even though Rukia, Renji and possibly more characters are coming back in the filler arc. That really gave the story a bunch of comic relief, a bunch of people (who i wont name) suddenly taking over Ichigo's room (and life!).

[splic3r]

i think for filler its doing a lot better than it could. we have a lot of scoobie doo moments, but at least they are working on the crazy fire-doll controlling vamp, which still destroys anything with life-saving curry.

also umm, just curious but isnt there suppsoed to be an episode out this week? i havent heard anything about the raw which should allready be out unless i missed something...

[Marke]

maybe its not fillers anymore, but just a diffrent path. maybe they dident like the outcome of the manga story. so they changed it in the anime for the better?

we can only wait and see

[A2k]

Nice idea...but definately wrong.

They wouldn't still be releasing the manga strips each week if that were the case.

[sniperz]

my pace song > seems kind of like cheering up ur path XD hah

owh and regarding the episodes,i guess wat u say might be right.but they seem to add the fillers and then proceeding to the manga plot.they juz wanna lengthen the chapters between them.so they added the mod soul/bound arc for to extend the bleach episodes.it is great in my mind.hope it will somehow direct back to where renji/kon with ichigo body got hit by grand fisher and comes isshin for the play (expect that big defense shield he cast).and the visored that juz come to the school to let ichigo into the visored union or group.

[Chrono Detector]

The fillers aren't that bad, but I agree that the animation isn't too good as it used to be. But I'm still enjoying Bleach though.