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Rmage
02-20-2006, 10:49 AM
Heh, I know this is another Naruto vs. Bleach thread, but they're fun...for me at least. The reason why I chose these two is because they're pretty similar. Both are inhumanely endowed. Both hate doing paper-work. Both like the ocassional drink.

Basically, this is a "who do you like better" thread. Please don't compare them battle-wise, since we haven't really seen Matsumoto fight. You can compare boob size if you want, but this thread isn't limited to that.

UraharaTenchou
02-20-2006, 02:29 PM
yes, you expect that. another naruto vs bleach thread..

TSUNADE IS MORE PRETTIER.. and clearly, in terms of power. yea, we haven't see matsumoto fight, but, it can be obvious that tsunade is more powerful.

Ethanol
02-20-2006, 03:08 PM
I'm going to vote for Tsuande...she has a better head on on her shoulders. Matsumoto really has a lot of blonde moments and likes to flaunt off what he has. lol While Tsunade doesn't really have to. Also, she is a gambler. :)

Undying
02-20-2006, 05:36 PM
I had to go for Matsumoto... I consider her to be prettier, and her boobs seem bigger to me.

SolBeowulf19
02-20-2006, 08:48 PM
I'd go with Tsunade. Matsumoto is cool, but she just doesn't seem my type. Plus, her boobs are smaller than Tsunade. I will say this, how does Tsunade walk without breaking her back?

scared_link
02-20-2006, 09:03 PM
With Matsumoto's Shikai ability she would defeat Tsunade. All she has to do is thrust her sword to her chest and she will become heavy!

SLVR
02-20-2006, 09:32 PM
Matsumoto is my fav. Cause she likes Gin Ichimaru. Thats reason enough

Ethanol
02-21-2006, 12:26 AM
With Matsumoto's Shikai ability she would defeat Tsunade. All she has to do is thrust her sword to her chest and she will become heavy!

I think you're thinking of Kira's....Matsumoto was Ash Cat when the blade disintegrated.

Rokusaburo
02-21-2006, 02:24 AM
I had to go for Matsumoto... I consider her to be prettier, and her boobs seem bigger to me.

BOOBIIIEESSSSSS

Matsumoto yes, prease:doindadom

Sandal Hat
02-21-2006, 02:38 AM
Tsunade

Why?

She is stronger, faster, and more powerful in every way.

Rmage
02-21-2006, 02:40 AM
I think I like Matsumoto better. I think she looks prettier, and, let's not forget that Tsunade only looks the ways he does because of some special jutsu. In reality, she'd look like Jiraiya...old! As for Matsumoto, as old as she probably is, she's naturally that good looking. I also think she's funnier than Tsunade.

choking
02-21-2006, 03:15 AM
tsunade for power and skills the boobs i dunno... equal i guess ^ ^

ChansteR
02-21-2006, 04:14 AM
Dude, Tsunade would pwn matsumoto sadly, she got some freaking godly strength and her boobs are a match to hers too

Rokusaburo
02-21-2006, 04:55 AM
<_< ( . Y . )

ADMBird
02-21-2006, 05:14 AM
Tsunade all the way!

Ethanol
02-21-2006, 05:16 AM
<_< ( . Y . )

Whose boobs are those supposed to be? Matsumoto or Tsunade? lol

Gundamblueriver
02-21-2006, 05:43 AM
God, I'm sick of all these Naruto VS Bleach threads. I'm sick of them because Bleach characters are always better than Naruto characters.
I'm begining to really hate Naruto now. Maybe if people stopped comparing everything to Naruto, I might actually be able to enjoy it but right now, wherever I go, I get Naruto crammed down my throat. God I hate it having something forced upon me! GAH!

saycheese
02-21-2006, 05:48 AM
dont like naruto. but i aint gonna vote, juz coz i think they are the same sterotype. and i am not a big fan of sterotype characters, i value originality more.

Kenta
02-21-2006, 07:22 AM
bring in a ruler!

tough call, one possess godly strength and regeneration jutsu, the other knows shunpo and her shikai is a similar form to zenbonsakura. i guess they will have to decide through an arm wrestling match. wait, nvm, that wouldn't be fair, would it? :LOL:

Rokusaburo
02-21-2006, 07:27 AM
I really don't know why this thread turned into "If one is stronger then the other, then that one is the coolest! thread" But anywhooo~....

Matsumoto is much more of a woman!

Bastaldo "( . y . )" these belong to Matsu, but my <3 will always be with "( . y . )" Kuukakus <3<3<3<3<3<3

I'm one love <3 struck puppy dawg ^_^;

captain_soifon
02-21-2006, 09:40 AM
Tsunade, no mole =) but older.. so hmm..

Rmage
02-21-2006, 09:49 AM
@gundamblueriver: Dude, if you're so sick of Bleach vs. Naruto threads, then don't reply to them. No one makes you go to these threads but yourself, so get over it.

Also, for those who like Tsunade, would you really want someone who could pummel you into the ground if she got mad at you?

_senbonzakura_
02-21-2006, 09:50 AM
NOOO.!..Rangiku....!!*waves big Rangiku flag*...., why tsunade?

Marke
02-21-2006, 01:39 PM
since ive seen much more of tsunade i must say i vote for her.

Nood
02-21-2006, 03:05 PM
Tsunade. Her boobies arent that saggy !!! Even tho she is like 60 years old!!
:D

Undying
02-21-2006, 03:15 PM
Are Matsumoto's saggy? I never saw them sag.

_senbonzakura_
02-21-2006, 03:17 PM
Tsunade. Her boobies arent that saggy !!! Even tho she is like 60 years old!!
:D
there we go with the boobs again...*mad*
The question here has nothing to do with ther......eyes...., you know...*smirk*

Marke
02-21-2006, 03:23 PM
Tsunade is a Gambler, and thats a good thing :D

SmallKid57
02-21-2006, 04:01 PM
i dont think some ppl know this... but tsudane only looks that way b/c some jutsu thingy, she's like 70+... if u see her real form its disgusting... thats y i go for matsumoto...

strengthwise : Tsudane

Undying
02-21-2006, 04:08 PM
Yeah, Tsunade is only pretty because of her Justsu... otherwise she's ugly. And btw, Matsumoto is as much a gambler and a drinker as Tsunade.

SmallKid57
02-21-2006, 04:09 PM
yay undying! matsumoto!!!

Rokusaburo
02-21-2006, 06:09 PM
/bow
hai, Sasayaka na mono desu ga.
Taishita mono dewa arimasen ga,
Oki ni meseba, ii no desu ga.

Matsumoto-san
506

_senbonzakura_
02-21-2006, 06:11 PM
/bow
hai, Sasayaka na mono desu ga.
Taishita mono dewa arimasen ga,
Oki ni meseba, ii no desu ga.
Matsumoto-san
506
haah?*feeling really stupid....*..
What was that supose to mean.......?

Rokusaburo
02-21-2006, 07:56 PM
/bow
Yes, This is a small present for you.
It's not anything special, but...
I hope you like it
Matsumoto-san
Attachment 506

^^;

Shinji
02-21-2006, 08:01 PM
Tsunade every time. Much much stronger!

Rmage
02-21-2006, 08:02 PM
Lol, who would you rather have a fight with?

Rokusaburo
02-21-2006, 08:18 PM
Matsumoto, I'll just let her pound me to the ground <3<3<3<3

SolBeowulf19
02-22-2006, 03:32 AM
Tsunade. She is much more powerful than Matsumoto, in strength anyway.

Rokusaburo
02-22-2006, 03:44 AM
Meh, Any of them can just pound me, hell I wont fight back.

too much <3<3<3<3

pound roku-san yes, please :D

*daydreaming*

Undying
02-22-2006, 07:58 AM
Pound and then fall on... mmm *daydreams*

Lan
02-22-2006, 08:59 AM
big teats vs big boobs ha?
I don't know
matsumoto ough to be faster but Tsunade has more brutal force
the one whi wins would be the one with bigger boobs

Rmage
02-22-2006, 09:14 AM
That's true. I don't think Tsunade can keep up with Matsumoto, who's pretty good a shunpo, even with her big assets. She'd probably win just by wearing Tsunade down.

Undying
02-22-2006, 10:17 AM
Like Lan said - the one with bigger boobs wins.

saycheese
02-22-2006, 01:51 PM
for me, boobs are rated on the following qualities.
-shape
-size
-softness
-firmness
-elasticity(yea like a rubber band = =)
-and finnaly how healthy it looks with its color.

kitty_catt
02-22-2006, 02:18 PM
I voted for the ever lovely Rangiku cuz fighting abilities aside - we really dont know much about Rangiku's abilities, for all we know she could be just as stronge and fast as the 5th Hokage - Rangiku just seem like more fun to hang out with, she more light hearted.

Oh and if she could capture someone as engimatic as Gin's heart, there must be something special about her (beyond the boobs of greatness).

Ethanol
02-22-2006, 02:22 PM
I voted for the ever lovely Rangiku cuz fighting abilities aside - we really dont know much about Rangiku's abilities, for all we know she could be just as stronge and fast as the 5th Hokage - Rangiku just seem like more fun to hang out with, she more light hearted.
Oh and if she could capture someone as engimatic as Gin's heart, there must be something special about her (beyond the boobs of greatness).

Maybe Gin is a boob man....lol

Marke
02-22-2006, 02:27 PM
ye, Gin looks like a fetisch lover to me. Chains and stuff

that smerk!!

Ethanol
02-22-2006, 02:28 PM
ye, Gin looks like a fetisch lover to me. Chains and stuff

that smerk!!

I can just imagine what 3rd div HQ looks like. LOL

Marke
02-22-2006, 02:31 PM
noo now you put naughty images in my head.

shakey shakey! out of my mind damn naughty gin!

choujiwong
02-22-2006, 03:09 PM
For now, I still don't know what matsumoto's shikai does and I don't know her fighting abilities. If there were a real battle between both of them, Tsunade will win because of her monstrous strength and plus the healing skill that she has acquired will certainly make her last longer in the fight.

eiChi
02-22-2006, 03:19 PM
yea, tsunade will blow matsu away XD

but i still choose matsu anyway, coz she's funnier n ALOT younger :P

choujiwong
02-22-2006, 03:25 PM
What does cuteness and young have to do with who will win.. ..

Matsu's younger and cuter...that's why she wins?

_senbonzakura_
02-22-2006, 07:22 PM
What does cuteness and young have to do with who will win.. ..
Matsu's younger and cuter...that's why she wins?
simple answer: no !!!
she wins just cause she`s better....:redbiggri
/ her boobs, and her age, and her outlook has nothing to do with that/

SmallKid57
02-22-2006, 07:51 PM
this isn't a whose stronger thread... its who looks better... or is just better overall... and matsumoto wins hands down...

SolBeowulf19
02-22-2006, 09:57 PM
You know, when you think about it, Matsumoto could be older or just as old as Tsunade. she's just a spirit so she doesn't look like it.

Undying
02-22-2006, 10:09 PM
Age:
Matsumoto is actually hella older than Tsunade (she's like 200+) but since she is a spirit, her true appearance is young, unlike Tsunade who uses a Jutsu to makie herself appear young.
Boob size:
Looking at it from every angle I could, I'd say they are roughly equal.
Fighting Skills:
This is one area where people are mislead. We know nothing of Matsumoto's fighting ability. However, we do know that she can use Shunpo, whice is much faster than running. Thus, she can beat Tsunade by moving faster than her and tiring her. But beyond that, Matsumoto can also float in the air (a trait shared by all high level Shinigami). Tsunade's huge power will not be able to touch Matsumoto since she can float in the air, and using Shunpo she will beat Godaime Hokage.
Sorry people, facts are facts.

Marke
02-22-2006, 10:26 PM
<3 Matsumoto

Undying
02-22-2006, 10:31 PM
Matsumoto pwnes! XD

SmallKid57
02-22-2006, 11:45 PM
im for matsumoto... but strength wise i gotta go with tsudane... if u c in some scenes... u c the ninja's "shunpoing" also.... so yea.... and tsudane can summon this giant slug thingy.... so.... yea... and she knows a lot of jutsus... and if she gets hurt she can just heal herself...

but for looks, matsumoto!

Undying
02-23-2006, 12:06 AM
Snail Summoning:
Matsumoto will float higher.
Ninja Shunpo:
No, they are running. What's faster, Shunpo or plain running?
Self Healing:
There's a limit. Matsumoto can go on Shunpo-ing all day long, and Tsunade will tire eventually.
Brute Strength:
Yeah, Tsunade will beat Matsu on that one. She is physically stronger.

Random Havoc
02-23-2006, 12:55 AM
Tsunade... simply because I think the Naruto world has a lot more surprises and can overwheal SS world's character.

Undying
02-23-2006, 01:02 AM
That depends who against who.

Random Havoc
02-23-2006, 01:04 AM
Mastumoto vs. Tsunade of caurse.

Undying
02-23-2006, 01:17 AM
Read:
Age:
Matsumoto is actually hella older than Tsunade (she's like 200+) but since she is a spirit, her true appearance is young, unlike Tsunade who uses a Jutsu to makie herself appear young.
Boob size:
Looking at it from every angle I could, I'd say they are roughly equal.
Fighting Skills:
This is one area where people are mislead. We know nothing of Matsumoto's fighting ability. However, we do know that she can use Shunpo, whice is much faster than running. Thus, she can beat Tsunade by moving faster than her and tiring her. But beyond that, Matsumoto can also float in the air (a trait shared by all high level Shinigami). Tsunade's huge power will not be able to touch Matsumoto since she can float in the air, and using Shunpo she will beat Godaime Hokage.
and:
Snail Summoning:
Matsumoto will float higher.
Ninja Shunpo:
No, they are running. What's faster, Shunpo or plain running?
Self Healing:
There's a limit. Matsumoto can go on Shunpo-ing all day long, and Tsunade will tire eventually.
Brute Strength:
Yeah, Tsunade will beat Matsu on that one. She is physically stronger.

Think again.

Rmage
02-23-2006, 01:22 AM
Bleach has a ton of surprises we haven't even seen yet, especially when it comes to Matsumoto.

Random Havoc
02-23-2006, 01:24 AM
... and what about jutsu? The world of jutsu is endless as well... anyways... I don't think this is a debate. I think Matsumoto would lose to Tsunade...

Undying
02-23-2006, 01:28 AM
Jutsu are endless, but you need to hit with them, y'know. Matsumoto can avoid them and strike at Tsunade. Tsunade will also have to face Matsumoto's Shikai (and Bankai, if she has one).

Rokusaburo
02-23-2006, 02:58 AM
Matsumoto is a soul, Tsunade is a human. Nuff said

Matsumoto > Tsunade.

In boobs
in fighting
in looks
in special abilities
in movements

IMHO~

Rmage
02-23-2006, 06:33 AM
Soul or not, Matsumoto can still die, not that I'm siding with Tsunade.

_senbonzakura_
02-23-2006, 11:47 AM
Matsumoto is a soul, Tsunade is a human. Nuff said
Matsumoto > Tsunade.
In boobs
in fighting
in looks
in special abilities
in movements
IMHO~
i cant say it better myself....thank you for giving so detailed arguments.....
And Rmage,, Matsu can die, but she cant be killed by Tsunade...^_^

Rokusaburo
02-23-2006, 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokusaburo
Matsumoto is a soul, Tsunade is a human. Nuff said
Matsumoto > Tsunade.
In boobs
in fighting
in looks
in special abilities
in movements
IMHO~

i cant say it better myself....thank you for giving so detailed arguments.....
And Rmage,, Matsu can die, but she cant be killed by Tsunade...^_^


U can't compare a death god, which in this case has has centuries of practice cuzz she is that old, to a regular human being with ninjutsu, taijutsu and juijutsu skills. It just can't compare~ Naruto is one world where the ninja are the strongest, Bleach is another world where the death gods own. I mean compare in contrast to one another, as a matter of who is stronger, obviously a death god would, who is hotter? well my vote goes for matsumoto, who got "better look'n boobs"? matsumoto, who looks best with their respective boobs size? Matsumoto. Who is overall sexier? Matsumoto

in any "blank vs. blank" comparing these 2 women, my heart is souly with matsumoto

Undying
02-23-2006, 06:10 PM
Moreover, can Tsunade even touch Matsumoto? Only beings with Reiatsu can touch ghosts. Is Chakra the equivilant of Reiatsu? NO!

Rokusaburo
02-23-2006, 06:21 PM
Moreover, can Tsunade even touch Matsumoto? Only beings with Reiatsu can touch ghosts. Is Chakra the equivilant of Reiatsu? NO!


Indeed~

Chakra is inner prowess harness by ones self and released as enery.

The perfect balance: Mind and soul

But mind and soul doesnt mean they are "souls"

It is just energy that can be manipulated at will in the living world, which if you ask me, they couldnt even use in SS, even more, enter SS.

_senbonzakura_
02-23-2006, 06:21 PM
Moreover, can Tsunade even touch Matsumoto? Only beings with Reiatsu can touch ghosts. Is Chakra the equivilant of Reiatsu? NO!
maybe she wont be even able to see her at the first place....i think

Rokusaburo
02-23-2006, 06:25 PM
maybe she wont be even able to see her at the first place....i think


Indeed, Flash Steps are far greater in speed then anything a Human Ninja can dish out

SmallKid57
02-23-2006, 06:27 PM
i thought this wasn't comparing strengths... i mean on the first post it even says in caps THIS IS NOT A STRENGTH COMPETITION... lol well matsumoto wins b/c she looks better

Hotaru
02-23-2006, 06:28 PM
tsunade for power and skills the boobs i dunno... equal i guess ^ ^

I take it that you are not a girl =-=" Anyway, Matsumoto def.. she is prettier... Altho am not going to say anymore, coz if I do, my gf will call me sad AGAIN (Last time I tried to get her to watch Bleach, she left!!!) choking, I like Ken-chan and Yachiru too!!! I like your Banner btw... Ichy!!!

SmallKid57
02-23-2006, 06:31 PM
lol they're... chest size..... is pretty much the same, but tsudane only gets those by some weird jutsu.... so matsumoto wins!

Rokusaburo
02-23-2006, 06:32 PM
Altho am not going to say anymore, coz if I do, my gf will call me sad AGAIN

Awww man, thats harsh lol, still, gotta comply with teh rulez eh? if not no *pat pat* ^^

Rmage
02-23-2006, 09:04 PM
Honestly, this can be a comparison about anything between the two of them, as long as you can back yourself up.

SolBeowulf19
02-23-2006, 11:03 PM
Awww man, thats harsh lol, still, gotta comply with teh rulez eh? if not no *pat pat* ^^

Exactly. Nothing could be more true.

Rokusaburo
02-23-2006, 11:05 PM
^^;

Cest La`vie

xyouxarexuglyx2
02-24-2006, 01:30 AM
Tsunade is prettier, but.. Matsumoto wins in the you-know what department
( . )( . )

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 02:12 AM
( . )( . )

Nuff said.

SolBeowulf19
02-24-2006, 03:27 AM
There I have to disagree. I think Tsunade is bigger in that department. Not much bigger, but bigger.

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 04:19 AM
I never said Matsu was bigger, i just said she owns tsunade in boobs. Doesnt necesarrily mean they have to be bigger ^^;
Matsu -saaaan <3

SolBeowulf19
02-24-2006, 04:32 AM
Ahh....How so?

Bleach(ed)
02-24-2006, 04:56 AM
Masumoto is definetly more humourous(did spell that right?)...so my vote goes to masumoto

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 04:58 AM
I dunno RR, i guess i would just preffer to get breast fed by matsu-san<3 then tsunade

:D^^<3

Luso Clemens
02-24-2006, 05:06 AM
I voted for Tsunade, not cause I'm a fan of Naruto, but because I like her personality better then I do Matsumoto's
too bad Jiraiya wasn't on the list, cause I would have voted for him, maybe I should get him a pair of false brests so he could be added

I'm in the neg on both Bleach and Naruto... the filler arcs are killing it for me, but I think I might just go for Naruto more then Bleach, because some of the fillers are alot more interesting then Bleach fillers

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 05:11 AM
Thats sad to hear :(

captain_soifon
02-24-2006, 05:27 AM
I voted for Tsunade, not cause I'm a fan of Naruto, but because I like her personality better then I do Matsumoto's
too bad Jiraiya wasn't on the list, cause I would have voted for him, maybe I should get him a pair of false brests so he could be added
I'm in the neg on both Bleach and Naruto... the filler arcs are killing it for me, but I think I might just go for Naruto more then Bleach, because some of the fillers are alot more interesting then Bleach fillers
Heh,i havent even bothered to watch any of the fillers.. i heard that naruto fillers gonna end very soon

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 05:34 AM
naruto is quite long, gets kinda redundant sometimes

Ethanol
02-24-2006, 05:41 AM
I dunno RR, i guess i would just preffer to get breast fed by matsu-san<3 then tsunade
:D^^<3


Aren't you a bit old for breast feeding?

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 05:44 AM
Aren't you a bit old for breast feeding?

That never gets old ^^

Pedo!

<3

chiriyuku
02-24-2006, 01:57 PM
MATSUMOTO WINS!! Well, in my opinion anyway. I personally find Tsunade annoying.

Matsu is wayyyyyyy more prettier and has a better personality. Look at the way the two deal with their problems. Tsunade faces difficulites and she ups and leaves her village. Matsu, on the other hand, keeps on doing what's right and what she has to do.

Undying
02-24-2006, 04:09 PM
Ok, if we compare beauty, then that's to each his own. I should like to remind people that Tsunade is an old hag, while Matsumoto's appearance is her true one. Boob size is soemthing that's up to the person that draws it, and we will need a stated three sizes to compare. Personality wise, again, to each his own. For me, Matsumoto is better. I find her personality to be better fit to my own (yes I am deciding by what I think would have made a pefect girl-friend to me), and I find her funnier. And I find Matsumoto to be prettier.

SolBeowulf19
02-24-2006, 09:55 PM
naruto is quite long, gets kinda redundant sometimes

Yeah, the fillers can be a huge pain.

SmallKid57
02-24-2006, 10:16 PM
lol i vote for matsumoto... tsudane is a grandma in her real form is quite disgusting... lol matsumoto all the way!

Undying
02-24-2006, 10:21 PM
Matsu owns! But Tsunade is in the lead by 1.... why are so many people liking the granny more?

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 10:22 PM
Yep, Matsu ftw, the real thing > fake saggy old grandma titties

SmallKid57
02-24-2006, 10:23 PM
lol yea! matsumoto's... chest... is real! tsudane's is fake...

lmegera
02-24-2006, 10:25 PM
But tsunade can kick your ass. her boobs dont get in the way like matsumoto's do.

TSUNADE FTW!!!!!!!!

Rokusaburo
02-24-2006, 10:31 PM
Why would i want her to kick my ass?

ill just fall on my own will and have her win

anything for the boobies <3

Undying
02-24-2006, 10:33 PM
The point is, tsunade will beat you up and leave you nearly dead if you annoy her. Matsumoto ill just hug you with her boobs (YAY! Do that, Matsumoto nee-san!). And... when did Matsumoto's boobs get in the way?

Rmage
02-25-2006, 12:22 AM
Hahaha...I think he was referring to the filler episode when Matsumoto kept complaining that her boobs were always getting in the way and even tried to "kill" her while she was drunk.

SmallKid57
02-25-2006, 02:12 AM
lol that was kinda weird... and scary...

Undying
02-25-2006, 11:49 AM
That was comic relief though... basing your opinions on comic relief isn't exactly valid... because the characters act out of character during comic relief scenes...

yumisan
02-25-2006, 03:04 PM
lol, currently the vote is 50 and 50!well if we judge by strength,tsunade will win of course.afterall she is the hokage and matsumoto is only a vice -captain.but if it comes to boobs...matsumoto win of course.:D

Undying
02-25-2006, 03:21 PM
Huh? What is the connection between Hokage and Vice? I mean, social positions and ranks have nothing to do with power.

SmallKid57
02-25-2006, 03:32 PM
we're not judging strength.... we're judging like attitude and... looks... and chest.... lol look at the first post!

matsumoto wins... she's more.... lol idk lazy? and she's cooler. tsudane is just an old grandma.

Undying
02-25-2006, 03:37 PM
Yeah, Matsu: a. isn't a grandma in desguise. b. has a larger chest (sometimes they draw Tsunade with her chs down to half it's size, Matsu always has huge boobs). c. Is a drinker and a gambler but is hella funny. d. isn't likely to beat you up (beat you up, and won't let you drop and have her smash you with the boobs), unlike Tsunade.
Matsumoto!!! Be my girl-frien, pleasE!

SmallKid57
02-25-2006, 03:46 PM
lol undying is getting depressed over there... lol jk.

ok so... yea, matsumoto isn't just an old hag who makes herself young with a jutsu...

yumisan
02-25-2006, 03:56 PM
okay,sorry about the 1st post cause i didn't really read the 1st post properly.then let me get it clear here that of course matsumoto is way much better then tsunade.from tip to toe in every single thing in matsumoto is always much better.matsumoto is much mre ladier like that tsunade.in conclusion matsumoto wins(for me).end of story.

SmallKid57
02-25-2006, 04:15 PM
huzzah! lol matsumoto looks much better and is "ladylike"er more than tsudane.

Undying
02-25-2006, 06:09 PM
Yeah, she i sdefinetly more feminine and is sexier!!! GO GO MATSUMOTO!! Be my gf, PLeaSE!

SmallKid57
02-25-2006, 07:46 PM
lol i no! i'll go into teddybear mode and she'll hug me! yes...

Undying
02-25-2006, 08:49 PM
I'll replace Kon and make her adore me and hug me!!!!

Alkarzar
02-25-2006, 09:29 PM
My vote stopped the tie.

GO TSUNADE !

SolBeowulf19
02-26-2006, 01:50 AM
Yes. I like Tsunade compared to Matsumoto. Not that she isn't cool, Tsunade is just cooler.

AznPoi
02-26-2006, 02:39 AM
Tsunade, no mole =) but older.. so hmm..
Actually Tsunade isn't older. Remember Matsumoto is a soul, so she age wayyyyyyyy slower. If Rukia is 10 times Ichigo's age, and Ichigo is 16 then Rukia is 160. Matsumoto is a hell of a lot older than Rukia so we can say she's definately older than Tsunade.

Rmage
02-26-2006, 04:11 AM
hahaha...your avatar is hilarious, and yes, Matsumoto is much much older. I'm pretty sure all the shinigami are older than Tsunade.

Rokusaburo
02-26-2006, 04:22 AM
Yes. I like Tsunade compared to Matsumoto. Not that she isn't cool, Tsunade is just cooler.


Thats cuzz we've only seen "so much" of matumoto. remember naruto is much longer then bleach

funkmasterswede
02-26-2006, 05:19 AM
Tsunade gets my vote because she is clever and less blonde than matsumoto.

Undying
02-26-2006, 10:11 AM
Her hair color=blonde. And btw, Roku, we've seen enough of Tsunade's character. Also, to those with an any blonde conflict: a. Tsunade is a natural blonde! b. Matsumoto's hair color is brown red, now blonde! c. Matsumoto acts "blonde=idiot" only on comic relief scenes. She's really a very seroius and perceptive character (same as Orihime). And also, about age: While it's true that Matsumoto is far older in terms of years, in her case, her true appearance is that of a young woman, not that of an old hag.

Glayce
03-02-2006, 08:04 AM
o.0 When I first saw this thread, I thought it was a fight between matsumoto and tsunade.

Well, both of them are quite responsible, caring and not really wayward.

I'll have to say I like Matsumoto more because of her relationship with Gin and Hitsugaya. She just seems like a really nice person to me. Besides that, her zanpakutou's ability definitely isn't bad.

adorkable
03-02-2006, 02:19 PM
Boys... camn down! lol

Ok my vote?
1. Matsu is more "gifted" ;) c'mon guys. Well, in my view she is. lol

2. Oh well, she may be a shinigami (making her heaps older than Tsunade) but looks way prettier and younger. She's hot. Hotter than Tsunade atleast. And I'm a female remember.

3. I bet she could kick Tsunade's ass. Although, we don't really know her fighting ability (Yes, this thread thing isn't counting who could beat who). She is faster than Tsunade and could probably beat her by moving faster and tiring her out, although if it were fist-to-fist or a match thing... Tsunade would probably win.

But I'll still side with Matsu. I also like her personality better. Tsunade would probably kill you if you annoy her... Matsumoto... well... she just wins. My friend also loves the boobs of Bleach (yes my friend's a guy!) - especially Inoue and Matsumoto.

grimm_fans
03-24-2006, 01:18 AM
tsunade is kinda fat

i go with matsumoto since i love her boob size

Hollow_Man_ct
03-24-2006, 07:54 AM
I didn't vote till now cause I don't know who Tsunade is except that she is from Naruto, so can anyone put up a pic of her so as to make the comparison available for people who haven't seen naruto?

Yet I don't think there is better than Matsumoto ( Great personality, Great drinking companion, Great sense of humour, very playful and outgoing, quite the pretty face and a physique to swear for! )

Kenta
03-24-2006, 08:52 AM
Both aren't my type... mainly because of those things in front.

But if I have to choose one, I'd say Matsumoto.

Why?
1) She has a sense of humour.
2) She doesn't have a stern look like Tsunade.
3) She won't cause you bodily harm as easily as Tsunade if you happen to piss her off.

Z_Blitz
03-24-2006, 10:57 AM
Well... If we are comparing using beauty as a measure then its Matsumoto all the way. If its strength and fighting capabilities then its Tsunade without a doubt. My personal favourite is Matsumoto because of her 'blonde' moments. She's more human to me. Besides strong girls always freaked me >.>

Night Prowler
03-24-2006, 01:43 PM
Meh... Hollowman Google Image seached her, well they've both got Big Boobs I know thats one thing they have in common and thier both Blonde sooo....

I'm going with Matsumoto saying that I don't watch Naturo (and hopefully never will) and I know about her more.

Ru-chan
03-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Im going for Matsumoto..she has looks and those bouncing boobies.. :D :LOL:

LightningEdge
03-24-2006, 04:00 PM
i gotta go for matsumoto :P
tsunade is stronger but i think matsumoto has bigger boobs

grimm_fans
03-24-2006, 09:11 PM
matsumoto all the way

i love the boobies

Nichigo
03-24-2006, 09:14 PM
omg, I can't believe this topic exists. Tsunade would PWN Matsumoto. Ya'll are voting for Matsumoto cuz she's got bigger boobs, but has it ever occurred to you guys that big boobs get in the way? Especially when you're trying to swing around a katana. Tsunade just needs to summon her slug monster and it's over ^_^

Undying
03-24-2006, 09:52 PM
a. Matsumoto is not a blond. Get it through your thick head already. Tsunade's blode, Matsumoto is not.

b. Rangiku's boobs don't get in the way. Check out the Manga for another fight (other than that VS Kira, whom she pwned even though "her boobs get in the way").

c. Matsumoto is sotronger and is far faster, beacause she is a Shinigami. Anyone who claims that Shinobi ran faster than Shinigami Shunpo, needs a serious check-up.

Nichigo
03-24-2006, 09:57 PM
a. Matsumoto is not a blond. Get it through your thick head already. Tsunade's blode, Matsumoto is not.
b. Rangiku's boobs don't get in the way. Check out the Manga for another fight (other than that VS Kira, whom she pwned even though "her boobs get in the way").
c. Matsumoto is sotronger and is far faster, beacause she is a Shinigami. Anyone who claims that Shinobi ran faster than Shinigami Shunpo, needs a serious check-up.

a. Right

b. her boobs do get in the way. she's just good enough to work with them :LOL: obviously the anime wouldn't show her boobs interfering. I'm looking at it from a more practical standpoint.

c. since neither shinigami shunpo, nor super fast ninjas exist, it's all speculation. no where does it say shunpo is faster than ninjas dashing. It's all a matter of opinion. And, i'd like to believe for the sake of this post not being lopsided, that they're equivalent.

Undying
03-24-2006, 10:05 PM
b. her boobs do get in the way. she's just good enough to work with them
We all knwo that ;)
obviously the anime wouldn't show her boobs interfering. I'm looking at it from a more practical standpoint
Neither the Anime nor the Manga has ever shown that the boobs interfere. I'm just saying, her boobs aren't as big aspeople think. I saw a woman with more boobs. And you know what? They didn't even bother her.

c. since neither shinigami shunpo, nor super fast ninjas exist, it's all speculation. no where does it say shunpo is faster than ninjas dashing. It's all a matter of opinion. And, i'd like to believe for the sake of this post not being lopsided, that they're equivalent.
True, however, Shinigami are psirits,a nd Shinobi human. That's why it is my opinion that the Shunpo is faster.

chiriyuku
03-25-2006, 12:50 PM
Tsunade just needs to summon her slug monster and it's over ^_^

Her slug monster is kinda crappy in my opinion. Also, even with the giant slug, Matsumoto would whoop Tsuande. All she has to do is get up onto the slug herself, which doesn't seem like a hard thing for her to do.

Ulquiorra
03-25-2006, 01:08 PM
Matsumoto got a sword and cool moves, on the other hand tsunade can punsh and heal. i think its pretty equal to me

Black Shadow
03-25-2006, 01:33 PM
Matsumoto ^_^

SmallKid57
03-25-2006, 01:38 PM
i think matsumoto... b/c she's a spirit... and tsudane is a human.... and in my opinion when they fight spirits beat humans. so yea. shunpo does seem faster than shinobi's running, and matsumoto has her shikai.

Ulquiorra
03-25-2006, 01:42 PM
o ya , so then tsunade cant even touch or see matsumoto , lol

tsunade got no spiritual power, but chakara

Nichigo
03-25-2006, 06:17 PM
I wouldn't say that spirits always beat humans. Didn't Ishida (a human) beat Mayuri (a shinigami captain)? Didn't ishida match the speed of Mayuri's Shunpo? I think Tsunade would definitly have the upper hand. Matsumoto's not even a captain. Tsunade would win because she's smarter, stronger, has many ninja techniques in her inventory (we've never seen matsumoto use demon magic at all), and is probably just as fast as matsumoto.

Undying
03-25-2006, 07:47 PM
What you are mistaking here are two things. a. Ishida was spirit at the time.
b. Ishida possesses Spiritual Powers, which mean that he is a "spirit" in a sense.

Nichigo
03-25-2006, 08:49 PM
What you are mistaking here are two things. a. Ishida was spirit at the time.
b. Ishida possesses Spiritual Powers, which mean that he is a "spirit" in a sense.

a) They were not spirits when they went to Soul Society. They were humans who invaded...thus the term ryoka.

b) Just cuz he posses spiritual powers doesn't make him a "spirit". It just means he has a large enough amount of spirit force to utilize as powers. Every human has spirit force, just different levels.

I hope you realize it's difficult to compare cross-anime characters. They live in different worlds that apply by different rules. But based on humans' potential abilities in the Bleach world, I'd say if Tsunade were in the same world, she'd kick matsumoto's butt. :headbang:

Undying
03-25-2006, 09:13 PM
a. Yes they were spiritd, if you recall Urahara made them into spirits so that they can enter Spul-Society. The term "ryoka" refers to spirits who entered Soul Society without the guidance of a Shinigami.

b. What I meant was that basically, he can use Spiritual Powers, like Spirits do.

Also, we cannot know if Chakra is the equivivalunt of Reiatsu. Also, not all people have Reiatsu. Those are very rare. Those who are born in Soul-Society have far better chance at ahving spiritual powers than those born in the real world.

And lastly, how on earth is Tsunade supposed to stop a sword from killing her, when that sword harms the spirit and not the body? Sure she can heal herself insntaneously, but can she heal her spirit (i.e. soul)?

~momo~
03-25-2006, 09:30 PM
I think Tsunade is better but don't actually know why (hehe ^^;)

chiriyuku
03-26-2006, 01:02 PM
Tsunade would win because she's smarter, stronger, has many ninja techniques in her inventory (we've never seen matsumoto use demon magic at all), and is probably just as fast as matsumoto.

Matsumoto seems smarter, i don't think she's even made one stupid move in battle so far.
As for strength, well she did block that giant guy from stomping on her like it was nothing. Also, her shikai's abilities means that she doesn't have to get close contact with tsunade.
And just coz we haven't seen her use demon art doens't mean she can't.

leon_08
04-23-2006, 06:49 PM
tsunade is hot but she will not defeat matsumoto, matsumoto will defeat her

SolBeowulf19
04-27-2006, 02:35 AM
In a sense of fighting, I think Matsumoto would win against Tsunade. As she is now. Take her back a few years with the same powers she has now. Then I have to go the other way.

kaede822
05-07-2006, 04:26 AM
whoah! they both are hot! nyahahahaha:LOL:

7D$
05-07-2006, 04:32 AM
wouldnt it be wise if you post some pictures and some details of the 2 because i didnt see matsumoto fight so i cant choose if i dont know the strenght of 1 outta 2

Sanzora
05-12-2006, 12:10 PM
Ok Matsumoto takes this one... If its everyone, Naruto has numbers... He's definately stronger one on one

Azalea
05-12-2006, 03:44 PM
well.. Tsunade uses super human strength,, but matsumoto's zanpaktou > shikai... Tsunade cant destroy teeeeny weeeny particles, so Matsumoto will have my vote on this one :p

MatsumotoRangiku
05-29-2006, 11:40 PM
I voted Tsunade but in reality I would go with either as they are both equaly as good and are both like me in reality.

Undying
05-30-2006, 09:12 AM
I voted Tsunade but in reality I would go with either as they are both equaly as good and are both like me in reality.
You mean you have big boobs? :redbiggri

choujiwong
05-30-2006, 03:06 PM
You mean you have big boobs? :redbiggri

I guess she means it. wOot!:biggrinlo

aaabbbxxx
05-30-2006, 05:08 PM
tsunade summons kitsui = ownage

Undying
05-30-2006, 09:20 PM
tsunade summons kitsui = ownage
Matsumoto, one word, two syllibales: Ban-kai. Now that's ownage.
Or, Matsumoto, two words: Unare, Heinekio! (Growl, AshCat!). Ownage.

aaabbbxxx
05-31-2006, 08:23 AM
she still doesn't have bankai in the anime so tsunade will definitely own. kuchiyose no justu!!! lolz

AznPoi
05-31-2006, 08:49 AM
Tsunade would overpower Matsumoto in hand to hand combat =/

I want to see them in a mudpit wrestling for my love.

Yuki
05-31-2006, 09:13 AM
Difficult question this one... It's hard to choose between two busted-beauties like them... Well, finally I voted for Matsumoto... Perhaps she's more gorgeous and kind than Tsunade... Tsunade likes very much wasting money in games, casinos, bets and all that... Very expensive for my poor wallet... :sad:

Zapak!
06-01-2006, 12:45 AM
Dude, Tsunade would pwn matsumoto sadly, she got some freaking godly strength and her boobs are a match to hers too
Not really. You have to take into consideration the fact that Tsunade doesn't have spiritual energy (nor can see it) and is on a chakra based system. I doubt Tsunade would even know what hit her. :headbang:

Zukuru
06-01-2006, 01:03 AM
I'm going with tsunade on this one. Tsunade definitely overpowers rangiku in strength and i can see rangiku dodging a lot so that she doesn't get hit. Plus tsunade can use healing techniques so rangikus damage will be kept at the minimum. I think i'm right about this too, but i think the rank of hokage is much more powerful than the rank of lieutenant.

iQing
06-01-2006, 01:20 AM
Matsumoto (Shinigami Vice Captain) > Slow, low ranked Shinigami who pawns Kyuubi > Kyuubi > Yondaime > Tsunade

nuff say

AznPoi
06-01-2006, 03:36 AM
Matsumoto (Shinigami Vice Captain) > Slow, low ranked Shinigami who pawns Kyuubi > Kyuubi > Yondaime > Tsunade

nuff say

You obviously didn't watch either of the anime.

You Lose
Good Game, SIR

iQing
06-01-2006, 05:19 AM
Tsunade cant even see Rangiku, how can she fight?
Riatsu can press her down firm in the ground.
Rangiku just need to use level one binding technique. Rukia says no human can escape such binding (Ichigo is special case)

Even in hand to hand combat Tsunade almost lost to non-shuunpou Kabuto... how is she going to beat shuunpoish Rangiku?

AznPoi
06-03-2006, 07:00 AM
Tsunade cant even see Rangiku, how can she fight?
Riatsu can press her down firm in the ground.
Rangiku just need to use level one binding technique. Rukia says no human can escape such binding (Ichigo is special case)

Even in hand to hand combat Tsunade almost lost to non-shuunpou Kabuto... how is she going to beat shuunpoish Rangiku?

First off, we're assuming that Tsunade could see Matsumoto otherwise it wouldn't be a fight.

Secondly, Matsumoto is only a Vice-Captain, her reiatsu level isn't enough to suppress someone to the ground especially someone that is stronger than about 100 men combined.

Level 1 kidou technique isn't going to hold down Tsunade. If you noticed, she is about a billion times stronger in physical strength then Ichigo. Secondly, she also has chakra which is the naruto version of reiatsu.
Reiatsu = Chakra
Enough chakra exerted can suppress and damage others much like reiatsu, so please don't act just because someone has reiatsu means they can beat anyone in Naruto. Tsunade's chakra will easily outmatch that of Matsumoto's reiatsu.

Tsunade had to overcome her fear of blood when she fought Kabuto remember? So it's kinda easy to hurt someone when they're frozen stiff in fear. Also, Kabuto is a high class opponent. He's as strong as an elite Jounin (Kakashi)

You point out Matsumoto's shunpo, but what good will it do if she attacks a fake version of Tsunade?

Matsumoto = hahaha, I got you now!!! (shock) WTF, a piece of log.
Tsunade = Haha, I'm right behind you. (Punches Matsumoto's head off with her super strength of doom)

Tsunade may not be able to take down the captains, but I'm pretty confident that she is able to take down any of the Vice-Captains.

You Lose
Good Game, sir

iQing
06-03-2006, 10:35 AM
yup
maybe Tsunade has a very slight chance to slightly cut Rangiku
if various assumptions and conditions are set up such as riatsu = chakra and etc
to support Tsunade :)

letting them fight in their own natural way, Rangiku is high high in another power scale :)
she doesnt even bother to look at Tsunade

AznPoi
06-04-2006, 04:57 AM
These assumptions has to be made seeing that it is used in basically every anime series under a different name. In Fate Stay Night, it is called "magic circuits" where it's like mana and the more you have the more powerful you are. Everything is base on the same principle except under different names.

Rabid_Wolverine
06-06-2006, 12:09 AM
Matsumoto has got my vote. She's so hot. Haha.

Mavvy
06-06-2006, 12:15 AM
In the HAWTNESS and SEXAYNESS are, Matsumoto abviously wins this match.
But in terms of fighting skills, Tsunade got this one.

the purifier
06-06-2006, 12:31 AM
they are both buttugly XD

Hotaru
06-06-2006, 09:20 AM
they are both buttugly XD
but you are meant to choose one!!!

Matsumoto all the way...lol.. i never like the look of Tsunade, i dont see how ppl say shes pretty at all...

eton_dap
06-17-2006, 11:47 PM
i say matsumoto cuz bleach > naruto. and cuz tsunade is too old to have assets like hers. XD

Lolable
06-18-2006, 01:34 AM
goes for tsunade prettier and stronger and my friends say ilook like her but dark haired u.u

Ichi-Zoro 3
06-18-2006, 03:50 AM
Matsumoto of course. I hate every Naruto character!!!

Minami Ikki
06-18-2006, 04:07 AM
Sounds like another big ..yeah competition. =/

In terms of battle: Tsunade

in terms of looks (personally): Matsumoto

Ichi-Zoro 3
06-18-2006, 04:45 AM
Sounds like another big ..yeah competition. =/

In terms of battle: Tsunade

in terms of looks (personally): Matsumoto

So you say tsunade's strnger than the 10th squad lt.?

Undying
06-18-2006, 09:11 AM
If Tsunade can rank up high enough to match a 7th seat I'll think that someone messed things up. Ikkanza Jiroubu>>>>Tsunade anyday.

Ryuujin Massatsu
06-18-2006, 09:13 AM
Tsunade's strong, but she's just a human. If we crossed her over into Bleach or vice versa for this fight, would she even be able to see a Shinigami? Matsumoto would rock her socks.