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vision33r
02-23-2006, 03:34 AM
I am completely not feeling the intent of the filler storyline so far.

It started out ridiculously slow, then it picked up in Episode 68 but falls flat again in 70, hard.

I can accept 1-2 non-continuous filler or a few well-done side-stories just like all the Gundam Alternative World stories.

How bad has it gotten? Let just say the animation started out crap and it is looking worse...

A close look at Sado in Ep 70, wow, he lost a lot of weight, slender, and more feminine looking.. I thought he looked more like Evangelion Unit 03.

Rukia should not come back so far, this completely throws off the drama and climax from the manga story.

If the anime were to go back to the manga story, they would have to skip over the part with Rukia returning. This totally killed it. Kubo should be proud that he just killed the manga - anime continuum.

That little skit when Rukia saw the stuff doll and hugged it was so cheezy, I'm sure all the Rukia fans are gasping how could Rukia suddenly act like Orihime.

The new enemy is so boring and stupid. Vampires throwing snakes, wow, how original..

The whole fight scene put me to sleep, Ichigo was slashing like he had a broom and not a sword.

As for the new villains, the whole plot is similar to Manga eps 213, where you know "who" had to come and escort "who" back, but in a simplified story.

All in all, this is like waking up in the middle of the night and witnessing the Twilight zone happening to your favorite anime, Bleach series..

Random Havoc
02-23-2006, 03:49 AM
Well I don't like the animation, but I'm not the one to complain much as long as there are good comedy scenes in them, which I enjoyed throughouly in eps 70.

Byakuya7
02-23-2006, 04:26 AM
All I can say is they have to skip the first few chapters of the current manga arc when they start animating it because a lot of things have been messed up. Theres still a glimmer of hope though, they just have to get right into the action after the filler is over.

MazdaRxEight
02-23-2006, 04:28 AM
Rukia have always been known to like things with a rabbit/bunny theme and that doll is no exception =). The lighter is a rabbit, wanted a rabbit soul candy dispenser.... etc... and the comedy parts are still pretty good. Pretty funny when Kon was being stepped on at the beginning.

But the fight scenes are pretty boring ^^ i ahve to agree with that.

Cassie
02-23-2006, 04:28 AM
I'm not a fan of the first few episodes of the current manga arc, so i wouldn't mind if that happened. as long as they dont cut off the good parts :P

Shimi
02-23-2006, 04:42 AM
Well compared to SS Arc it's pretty dull starting. I love the Kon parts. Truth be told I really hate the fight scences. It's all fight a little and then the bad guy runs away. But I'll still watch it because I'm a Bleach Fan and want to know what happens

Kazuya
02-23-2006, 04:47 AM
But I'll still watch it because I'm a Bleach Fan and want to know what happens
Right...same for me.
But its only the beginning of the Fillers or whatever it is..compare these to the beginning of Bleach (i think of the first 12 episodes). There the fight weren`t not so long too.

chakra25
02-23-2006, 04:59 AM
Just be glad Don Kanon'ji isn't anywhere in site :D

This filler is ok if you never watched the manga. I couldn't tell if it was filler until it was pointed out. The filler is good compared to the stuff at Naruto. I feel bad for the die hard Naruto fans... they got pumelled with so many crappy fillers that were repetitive.

I'm just glad that Bleach didn't pump out a bunch of Don Kanon ji and hollow slaying.

Fillers are just fillers... it was never meant to be better than the manga. It's just something to watch while they secure the future of Bleach. It's alot better than having no Bleach at all for a year.

trunkster
02-23-2006, 05:27 AM
The fillers are drags; they just sometimes don't have that bleach kind of feel to them. I was really hopefully that the fillers were going to end but it looks like they are making a season out of it, or at least half a season. I really hope it's not a year 0_o. What urahara said better not mean it really is going to be a year until Azien can use the Hougyouk.

But the whole vampire thing is corny. I guess it’s sort of neat to bring what a vampire is into the bleach universe but come on they aren’t going to be more powerful then shinigamis. That just doesn’t make sense. Maybe Alucard from Helsing will show up, fill them up with some lead, and we can be on with these fillers. Yeah I think I just thought of the worst possible scenario...

awsoman
02-23-2006, 05:34 AM
Freaking I know! They completely messed it up. like how the hell are they ganna fix it up according to the manga, Renji and Rukia arrive much later.

Captain BenZ
02-23-2006, 05:52 AM
Maybe Rukia will say something like I won't stay long and this is the last time I visit Karakura town and leaves to SS forever or "suppodedly" patrols another area. Then when the manga starts in the anime, Rukia will come back suprising Ichigo that she will be able to come or something, I don't know, lol.

Kazuya
02-23-2006, 06:50 AM
But the whole vampire thing is corny. I guess it’s sort of neat to bring what a vampire is into the bleach universe but come on they aren’t going to be more powerful then shinigamis. That just doesn’t make sense. Maybe Alucard from Helsing will show up, fill them up with some lead, and we can be on with these fillers. Yeah I think I just thought of the worst possible scenario...
Only one thing to say: AMEN

Kenta
02-23-2006, 06:58 AM
can't be helped when the average episode covers about 3 chapters at a time. if they go back to the main story now, they will catch up to the manga in about 14 weeks! yes, only 14 weeks. bleach has more of a reason to prolong their fillers whereas naruto had BETTER get back on track. they only average 1.7 chapters per episode the last time i check.

chin
02-23-2006, 07:31 AM
i was wondering how the japanese bleach fans were reacting when the anime was aired...

GaryDAI
02-23-2006, 07:40 AM
Well they could always go back to Soul Society a couple episodes before the filler arc ends. That seems reasonable right?

It's going to be a while until they go back to the manga anyway. So 5-6 months down the road all will be well. Yes, it's going to be that long! I have no clue why some people who read the manga thought episode 68-70 would be the end of the fillers. I guess the anime would take a month break in the middle of a fight, every couple of weeks waiting for the manga to finish....

I'm enjoying the fillers and I'm a big manga fan. Just don't take the fillers seriously. Trying to find every little thing that is wrong with it is a bit silly imo.

Kenta
02-23-2006, 08:28 AM
when naruto goes back to the main story in a few weeks, people would be less critical about it. naruto and bleach are the two most popular anime right now and when both of them are showing fillers, it's normal for people to become impatient. i don't like fillers either, but there's nothing we could do.

when naruto starts to pick it up again, people will shift their attention to there.

ultimate
02-23-2006, 08:44 AM
yeh i agree with GaryDAI, no need to find everything that is wrong with the fillers... i havent watched ep70 of bleach yet but i am not expecting much from it but i dont think it will be as bad as u say anyway

choking
02-23-2006, 08:54 AM
its fun so erm... whatever! ^ ^

Undying
02-23-2006, 09:38 AM
Fillers=bad. But hey, no problems, there are many ways how can they fix their supposed interference (heck, there are 4 more Shinigami yet to arrive, they can easily give them the intro when returning to the original storyline, and plenty of surprises there). Vempires? Heck, I think I am going to phone Alucard and tell him to fill them with lead from his two guns (and then show us some Vempire ugliness!!!). But they are portraying Ichigo as weak, that's bad >_<.

vision33r
02-24-2006, 03:10 AM
The worst thing that had happen to the filler is the implications bought upon by Rukia showing up or Renji for that matter. It screws up the whole story continuum from the manga and kills the ensueing drama or Ichigo's personal tension.

ade.hell
02-24-2006, 01:27 PM
Those vampires are so ... lame...

yup, they're changing the whole story. I can not accept it.

monkeh
02-24-2006, 02:42 PM
I'm no fan of filler arcs, in fact I hate them.

However this one isn't "that bad" in comparason to others. I think part of the let down was the quality of the SS arc was so high that even an average filler would look horrid.

Katen Kyoukotsu
02-24-2006, 02:57 PM
I'm no fan of filler arcs, in fact I hate them.
However this one isn't "that bad" in comparason to others. I think part of the let down was the quality of the SS arc was so high that even an average filler would look horrid.
I think everyones main promblem with these fillers is the fact that they obstruct the manga storyline. And from what ive heard about it, it is very good. Its not really about whether it compares to the SS arc, cause it obvioslly doesnt. But whether its goin to ruin the rest of the storyline.

choujiwong
02-24-2006, 03:22 PM
Not really, I think it's going fine... ...

monkeh
02-24-2006, 04:51 PM
I think everyones main promblem with these fillers is the fact that they obstruct the manga storyline. And from what ive heard about it, it is very good. Its not really about whether it compares to the SS arc, cause it obvioslly doesnt. But whether its goin to ruin the rest of the storyline.

I'm aware of this, but most filler arc (in my experience at least) do the same, so that was expected.

UraharaTenchou
02-24-2006, 05:09 PM
fillers are surprise uh...i didn expect rukia to be in the fillers..but still..hope it will end..too long is not good

flam3z
02-24-2006, 08:24 PM
Mm .. I wouldn't say it sucks , cause it doesn't . But it sure wasn't up to expectations .

I enjoyed various scenes involving Kon and what not , but that's about it .

The fight scenes were awfully boring . Ichigo and co were weakened by a lot , while the enemies seems to be way overpowered . Godlike , if you would .

I can appreciate the fact that Ichigo can't unleash his Bankai , but not being able to get a clean hit on anyone is not a thing that the fans would like to see .

He can't even fight the doll one on one , and would have suffered some major injuries if Rukia wasn't there to cover him . ( And to think that that Ryou guy can unsummon the same doll with the tiniest of effort ) This is just not right .

Y bother having Ichigo around then ? Just make do with the mod souls ( Cloud , Nova , RinRin ) . They seemed to be more powerful than Renji and Ichigo combined anyway .

All in all , it doesn't make sense . I'm not sure if I myself is making sense either , but oh well . Guess it's take it or leave it . I'm sure it would be the former for everyone here .

SmallKid57
02-25-2006, 02:34 AM
some are good some are bad.... i'd certinitely like it more if they went to the main story again.

Byakuya7
02-25-2006, 04:28 AM
nah I want the manga to be ahead by at least a few more chapters until they start working on the main story. They need to have a soul society 8 episode filler or something, where it shows the captains doing something other than talking and performing search squad jobs.
I'd also like the filler to hurry up so more badass villians and characters can be introduced.

_Ink
02-25-2006, 04:38 AM
as I have always said...look on the bright side when things are bleak...I must comment it is not as bad for the moment...

SmallKid57
02-25-2006, 05:04 AM
well at least its not as bad as the naruto fillers :biggrinki i think i can stand for bleach fillers, but naruto wants me to shoot myself in the head...

but i wanna c wut happens in the future... so i want em to continue the real story.

Sorian
02-25-2006, 05:08 AM
All fillers suck

Byakuya7
02-25-2006, 07:05 AM
All fillers suck

I suggest you watch the filler for Monster and say that again. But yea a lot of filler does suck, there are some series that can pull off filler and still keep the quality as good as the original story.

kebinxp
02-25-2006, 02:44 PM
totally agree with u man
one or two fillers that had comic relief with characters like don kanoji (BWAHAHAHAHHA) and keigo and kon woudlve been ok, but these fillers have totally thrown the anime off

tednfs
02-25-2006, 02:51 PM
if the new fillers had don kanonji i'd stop watching bleach
thank god for this thread
these fillers are terrible
no action
however the manga is getting better
so im compensated

yumisan
02-25-2006, 03:11 PM
yes,totally not into don kanonji.if he is inside the fillers......i do not know what to do we it but just getting pissed off and ended up stop watching it until he is about to die out from the fillers then i will start watching it again.just like what i did to naruto.as for now the fillers aren't that bad.it is nice and funny to watch.

agnus_dei_swe
02-28-2006, 02:20 PM
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Enough with all the laim complains yer old pussies!
I don't see annyone doing anyting 'bout it. I don't speak or read japanese so I can not go to TV-tokyo's homepage and find an e-mail to send my complains.
So at least make a protest list! Email/MAIL-bomb the F u c k e r s at TV-tokyo for taking up our precious time with boring and stupid fillers!
HATE THEM!!!
M o t h e r f u c k e r s, get to buisness!

...and also that goes for Naruto too...
:doindadom
They make money of these fillers to!
They make money by making us stupid and easy to target.
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ps. Orihime-chan is so kind ds.

Sgt.Reaper
02-28-2006, 02:42 PM
As for the Renji Rukia thing they appeared just to sort things out with the vampires and will probobly leave when its all over. Then they could just make a time jump until the beggining of the new semester and start of where they are supposed to.

AznPoi
02-28-2006, 10:12 PM
Filler sucks. That's all i'm going to say.

Valaraukos
02-28-2006, 10:16 PM
As for the Renji Rukia thing they appeared just to sort things out with the vampires and will probobly leave when its all over. Then they could just make a time jump until the beggining of the new semester and start of where they are supposed to.

Agreed,

The fillers are going to tie in perfectly with the Manga. The Manga has been progressing very rapidly and it'll all tie in perfectly. :headbang:

SmallKid57
02-28-2006, 11:08 PM
i hope so... i mean if they screw up the anime... that'll mess things up when its not on track with the manga.

Marke
03-01-2006, 01:27 PM
will be fun to see all the stuff that has been going on in the manga in the anime later.... mmm cant wait

Chrono Detector
03-01-2006, 02:00 PM
Its not that bad, it does have its bad and slightly good sides though, but I agree its just wasting a lot of air time. And I must say lately the art animation isn't good as it used to be.

M-50
03-01-2006, 02:06 PM
i DONT THINK THEY ARE THAT BAD. THEY SUCK BUT NOT THAT MUCH CAUSE IT IS INTERESTING FOR FILLERS. :headbang:

Ruka
03-01-2006, 02:19 PM
I saw read from a site that the fillers will end on the episode 80. No sure with the site's sources.

-Ruka

Cheryl
03-01-2006, 05:30 PM
The fillers can get a bit stupid...out of track from the manga sometimes. It's so irritating, especially when I want to see the anime for the manga since those episodes are definitely going to be excellent. >.<

Mazral
03-01-2006, 11:02 PM
Yes, the fillers are pretty bad, but I don't think the animators are going to screw up the show so that its impossible to get back on track with the manga. I'm sure they've planned it. They know what they're doing, so I'm just going to sit back, wait until the fillers pass, read the manga in the meantime.

SumDumGai
03-01-2006, 11:20 PM
Just wish they set an exact number of filler episodes that they will be making and release the number to the public... at least in English.

Mazral
03-01-2006, 11:23 PM
Yeah. Well, the least number of episodes (im assuming) will be 13. I doubt they made a whole new ending song just for a few episodes. Though, I heard that the Bleach fillers not be as long as the Naruto ones. However, that's just a rumor, I'm not sure if there is any truth to it.

Gunny
03-02-2006, 12:55 PM
fillers are ok ... but they destroy the anime story with this rukia returning...

~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™
06-25-2006, 05:41 AM
I saw read from a site that the fillers will end on the episode 80. No sure with the site's sources.
-Ruka


tt cant be possible... its still continuing nearing ep 90...

Littlelegs
06-25-2006, 07:27 AM
the fillers are decent compared to naruto. now naruto fillers are really messing up their storyline and bleach can probably recover from their fillers.

SLVR
06-25-2006, 07:39 AM
yes they are gettin worse. :P

Winter-war
06-25-2006, 09:37 AM
oh yeah this past episode was completely horrible, but that is expected from fillers so i wasn't really surprised.

h0f5
06-25-2006, 09:43 AM
86 was good, the previous all suck. yay. filler suck.

Chrono Detector
06-25-2006, 10:29 AM
This filler is starting to make me lose interest. Nothing is resolved these days. They wasted a whole hour of the latest hour episode doing nothing. And that was a really crappy episode.

Winter-war
06-25-2006, 10:31 AM
86 was good, the previous all suck. yay. filler suck.

well i guess it wasn't all that bad, i did get to see matsumoto thats always a treat.

Deidara-chan
06-25-2006, 10:49 AM
The fillers are pretty funny but I do agree that the storyline does loses its spice. Maybe the reason they made the characters seem so weak is because when the fillers end, they want the viewers to realise how powerful they have become. so what can we expect from fillers? the characters cant do anything new/skills or it will not collaborate with the manga. So yeah, my advise is, if you hate them, you dont have to watch them.

Karakura Red
06-25-2006, 10:54 AM
agreed... i still think the fillers arent bad but the vampire with DOLLS concept is a bit wierd though

Winter-war
06-25-2006, 11:02 AM
yeah they have a plot but it can become completely side-tracked.

h0f5
06-25-2006, 12:12 PM
the latest hour episode pissed me off so much i even wrote a essay on it. Yay. From the time when erm... that woman died onwards ( which ill say, was an excellent episode, whether it was because i watched the dejiki fansubs or not ) filler went to a new low. This ep was okay, the more i think of it i start feeling its averaage : /

Rabid_Wolverine
06-25-2006, 12:15 PM
The art quality has definitely changed and I don't like it. However the quality of recent episodes has increase so I'm not complaining as much now. However we better get back on the manga arc soon and let's hope this won't become another Naruto.

h0f5
06-25-2006, 12:27 PM
Dear sir,

we are apologetic to tell you that due to the 43103710273197317 complaints on the art quality of the fillers, we would like to inform you that your comment has been understood and agreed with * insert above numbers * people, but regrettably, the filler team would like to accept it as a trademark of fillers.

Im getting damn bored.

Winter-war
06-25-2006, 01:24 PM
i've been bored with these fillers but i keep on watching because i love my bleach. im a bleachoholic and lovin' it. =)

h0f5
06-25-2006, 01:46 PM
read the manga, lol

Winter-war
06-25-2006, 01:56 PM
read the manga, lol

i do read the manga but its still not enough.

i need my bleach!

h0f5
06-25-2006, 02:04 PM
go to your supermarket and get a bottle of two then >.>

Winter-war
06-25-2006, 02:10 PM
thanx!

i didn't even think of that!

zangetsu321
06-25-2006, 04:08 PM
The manga is too different from the anime. I like to see it in action, color!!! :LOL: But, those fillers are killing me!

flash.blossom
06-25-2006, 08:33 PM
like h0f5 said if ur gettin tired of the filler episodes, read the manga damnit; bleach manga > bleach anime (at least at this point it does) but seriously the manga is so much better than the anime right now; i actually started reading the manga about a week ago and i read it all within 3 days lol

and winter-war i agree with u too; its still not enough i want more bleach too!

Hinamori-Chan
06-25-2006, 11:25 PM
Are fillers ever good? (replying to the title. >.>)

o_o

I thinkk that the whole reading the manga if you don't like the fillers is a good idea and just deal with it if you don't think it's enough. ._. It's not like there's anything else you can do...

SoundWave
06-25-2006, 11:39 PM
Psshh... I like the fillers... There's nothing wrong with them...

Hinamori-Chan
06-25-2006, 11:41 PM
Pffft. You only like them because you're WEIRD.

WEIRD WEIRD WEIRDDD.
Hahaha. Justkidding. xD

But we love cows. <3
So it's ok N0s. *pat pat*

Undying
06-25-2006, 11:45 PM
Fillers suck... fillers suck.. this litany really does get on one's nerves after a while. I hope the filler making crew just dies.

Oh and BTW Kubo isn't supposed to be having anything to do with the fillers... right?

SoundWave
06-25-2006, 11:50 PM
@HC: Cows pwn our life... x)...

The only annoying thing about the fillers is that Ichigo can't go into bankai... Wth is that about...?

yunnie
06-25-2006, 11:52 PM
it is his show, so im guessing that he knows something.its the fillers, we all know the drill, wtach and be bored.

Mavvy
06-26-2006, 12:48 AM
The last filler episode wasn't too bad. I skipped the rest of the fillers and when I heard that Matsumoto was in it, I watched the episode. LOL. I am a loyal fan of Matsumoto Rangiku. <3

vision33r
06-26-2006, 02:57 AM
@HC: Cows pwn our life... x)...
The only annoying thing about the fillers is that Ichigo can't go into bankai... Wth is that about...?

What difference does that make? Its already been proven that these Bountous can stop shinigamis with 1 finger.

The whole point of the Filler is to waste time and create a comedy and not disturb the actual story, so of course you can't see more Bankai.

Last few episodes were some of the worst, because even it is a filler, there is no progress in the filler story itself. Just more and more time wasting..

Captain Hitsugaya
06-26-2006, 03:03 AM
The fillers might be bad now, But it should get better soon when they try to stop the fake vampires. There should be more casualties on the shinigami side ='(

SumDumGai
06-26-2006, 03:31 AM
Since they are fake episodes that were not supposed to even take place, i don't get why they have to drag on the storyline so slowly... They should at least make a lot of plot development in their stupid storylines that they make, it's not like they have to worry about catching up to any manga or anything, but maybe that is just the limit to their imaginations.

AznPoi
06-26-2006, 04:34 AM
I think the fillers should cover the background history of some captains or something. So we can know more about them rather than pointless stuff they have to put us through.

nyuu_chan
06-26-2006, 11:00 AM
yes, but that would involve effort on behalf of the people producing bleach. if everyone keeps watching the fillers despite their crappiness (which most people do) then its unlikely they would put lots of effort in.

Winter-war
06-26-2006, 11:02 AM
yes that is true indeed.

h0f5
06-26-2006, 12:25 PM
that cant be done, because they do not have the material. Whatever hasnt come out in the manga will never come out in the filler, thats the truth, eh? So while we wish for something great, they should just branch into another sidestory.

Winter-war
06-26-2006, 12:38 PM
no! fillers on top of fillers is a bad idea....very bad idea!

h0f5
06-26-2006, 02:27 PM
There have been quite a few filler fillers lol, the one right after the woman dying was a filler filler :P

izza
07-12-2006, 05:59 AM
I agree with some of what you have said...
I was entirely annoyed that Rukia came back too early, thus ruining the storyline.

The animation is pretty bad but I'm not entirely bummed.
You know some anime have it much worse... Well..I, for one, can tolerate and at times enjoy watching Bleach fillers A LOT more than Naruto ones.

Exodus
07-12-2006, 06:03 AM
I think the fillers are getting better.

But the episode of the dolls making traps around Ichigo's house just killed everything.

TwilightFlower
07-12-2006, 07:26 AM
As much as I don't like the idea of having to have fillers in the show, I'm actually enjoying them. I especially like the way they are using it to let some of the characters get more air time instead of just fading into the background. I have become more of a Kira fan because of that. And I much prefer a few months of fillers than weeks without Bleach because the show caught upto the manga and is waiting for enough material to make another episode.

Chrono Detector
07-12-2006, 07:59 AM
Well, the fillers are losing my interest lately. All they do is fight, nothing resolved and the enemy gets away. If this continues, I'm going to lose it.

MazdaRxEight
07-12-2006, 08:03 AM
I think the fillers are getting better.
But the episode of the dolls making traps around Ichigo's house just killed everything.

:musak: i thought that episode was pretty funny :LOL: but with the last episode the fillers are to some extent improving... and episode 90's title is fairly promising ^^

MoonCannon
07-12-2006, 08:13 AM
Seems like from the point of view for most(if not all) people on the fillers is just about the quality, while this is true, I guess it's really what a person likes to see and not what the good parts there are(There are good parts, but since everyone has the "fillers-suck" idea in their heads, they won't concentrate for any areas that are actually good and just label it as boring or what not).

Although it would be easy just to say "Don't like? Don't watch, no excuses period." Because the whole filler-bashing is getting really old with the same type flame for every single episode of fillers. It's ok to criticize on the areas of development, but repeatedly doing so for all episodes that are fillers is very ridiculous.

Johanne
07-12-2006, 09:38 AM
I feel like some people like fillers because that means more episodes for a show that you like, but others think that its better to just keep to the most engaging parts and skip the rest. I dont really HATE fillers, as long as they don't last as long as Naruto.

Apocalyptic Angel
07-12-2006, 09:41 AM
It's all a matter of personal opinion. And I'm pretty sure a lot of people simply don't like the filler for its content, not solely on the fact that it's filler.

I personally am not enjoying the filler much at all. Though I'll admit it has some (and I use the term generously) funny moments, and could probably be worse (god forbid), I really just don't like the whole Bount concept, and I hate how a lot of plot points of the manga will have to be altered for the anime now, whenever it finally gets back to following the actual storyline, because of this filler arc.

Also, it's true, like MoonCannon mentioned, that if someone doesn't like the filler they can just not watch it, but even then, there's still the complaint that the filler is keeping people from enjoying one of their favorite series. People have a right to complain, although I agree that they should go about it in a more, er, 'professional' way. (Which I hope I myself did. :3)

I honestly just can't wait 'till it's finally over. Until then... *patiently awaits the newest chapter of the manga*

h0f5
07-12-2006, 02:52 PM
the fillers still suck, its not a matter of the episode being good / whether we watch it or not. The anime was a good thing, and it is common expectation for them to live up to their reputation of such a good manga to have a fitting filler, that isnt that bad in quality. As far as it goes, even if you say dont watch, i can tell you that bleach is taking my last priority in all the anime episodes, and im seriously watching it as a filler. A time filler. Another reason the fillers suck is it uses manga stuff and twists it. tts all. they twisted alot of the manga stuff already,a nd it gets irritating.

Haidaes
07-12-2006, 06:00 PM
The probelm about fillers is IMO that the story plot becomes kind of boring and if you read the manga you know it just does not fit with the series. But this is just one aspect , even worse the drawing becomes worse and worse every episode. Today everytime they drew a charakter from the side it looked like someone misplaced his head and pumped up the chest (for rangiku-san WAY to much , they were big but now they are frightening me ...)

ProdigyHitsugaya
07-12-2006, 06:07 PM
Does anyone know when the filler episodes gonna end and stick to the main storyline?

shadow_of_89
07-12-2006, 06:16 PM
unfortunately if i found out i would have given a big party and invite everyone to come.....my treat....but that's impossible cuz for the moment no one knows....just god.....even the writers who wrote the script for the filler don;t know what is going to happen....the hole story seems to be planned just 1-2 episode ahead....

TwilightFlower
07-12-2006, 06:18 PM
Anime News Network has episode titles through episode 91 and all of them are still fillers. They seem to be starting a whole new aspect of the story involving Kurotsuchi-taichou and Ishida, so who knows?

nikuwadoko
07-13-2006, 03:47 AM
I hope it gets better ...

Exodus
07-13-2006, 10:20 AM
I don't want fillers to get better, I want them to end.

nikuwadoko
07-13-2006, 10:31 AM
but they can't end now, not until there's a big gap between anime & manga..as much as I also want it to end..

izza
07-13-2006, 10:39 AM
that's true sadly.... still i think i've said before that fillers are bad.. but the Bleach fillers aren't as bad as some others that I've seen.

ChansteR
07-13-2006, 06:01 PM
Im not so sure if these are truely fillers because like said already, there is a big big big gap between what happens in the manga to what is happening now. Maybe these arent fillers but the main storyline of that for the ANIME. Either way, its going to be a while before it ends, there are a lot of bountou left in the group. How many are beaten......errr none lol....

l'irrépressible
07-13-2006, 06:36 PM
...i will skip this bounto filler.....getting no brainers.....will check back when there is a new filler arc........tht hopefully...will be better

helscythe
07-13-2006, 06:44 PM
Talking about how cheesy the vampires power is...well...

Remember, Shinigami's powers on earth is like what...1/5 of there power in soul society? And the only reason why the vamps even come close is cause of the concentrated soul juice (hydrogenated corn syrup free, all natural!)...so when you think about there powers being multiplied by 10 and the shinigamis powers reduced to 20%...i think its somewhat realistic. And even if you still don't think so atleast it makes the fights longer, even if the latest anime fights with ichigo have been really stupid...i mean the part of him thats hollow comes out and doesn't even kill that bastard with the metal spider doll? cmon.

vision33r
07-14-2006, 12:34 AM
that's true sadly.... still i think i've said before that fillers are bad.. but the Bleach fillers aren't as bad as some others that I've seen.

Then, you haven't watched enough anime..

The quality, story, audio, animation, and production quality sux big time by today's anime standards.

No wonder Gundam Seed is still #1 in Japan. Zero fillers.

Redfield
07-14-2006, 12:46 AM
I think I am going to phone Alucard
Oh if only you knew how many times that scenario has gone through my mind while watching this arch.
Personally, I don't even see these as fillers. Why? Simple.
Fillers are episodes in an anime that have nothing to do with the current plot, and only last a short amount of time.
This happens all the time in long anime. Do you think Kubo thought of the entire mangas story on his first run? Of course not, this entire arch could have been something he wanted in the manga, but was unsure of or didn't have the time to prepare it.
Also, a lot of anime- manga lack consistancy with one another.
Here, lets take a look at some examples.
Naruto- Jiraiya was supposed to train Naruto for 2.5 years. In the manga, naruto goes with him, in the anime he is left behind. This causes many unhappy filler episodes that make the bleach arch look like a gift from God.
Berserk-The order of events are totaly messed up. Theres an entire story chunk missing in the begining of the anime(the one where Gatsu fights the big slug guy in the manga). It just skips right ahead to the flashbacks from when he was a small child, then growing up and joining the band of the hawk.
Also, Puck(the fairy) Always follows Gatsu around in the manga. Everywhere. Puck isn't even present in the Anime.
Negima- 25 episode anime(or was it 26). It follows the manga fairly well for a bit, but the last 10 or so episodes don't even HAPPEN in the manga(and if they did happen, they were seriously messed up). On top of that, the animators changed every few episodes, a long with most of the girls hair colors. Also, theres a new version of the opening themesong "Happy Material" every 2-3 episodes.
Kikaider- One of the best Manga I have ever read. It was dark, and it made you question a LOT of religion and existance. The art style was also VERY mature and detailed. The anime however(it was aired on adult swim a few years ago) Was okay, but failed hard in terms of animation maturity and the plot was off. Also, 2 of the characters were changed completly. Doctor Komiyoji's younger daughter, was replaced with a son. Hakaider went from Awsome(manga) to...Not awsome (anime).
Rurouni Kenshin- Half of the anime isn't even in the manga, and all of the important story details(Such as kenshins past as the battousi) Were turned into OVA's.
Every Anime-Manga translation has flaws, because every anime has fillers. Reason being? The animators of the anime need to wait for the Manga-ka to draw new chapters. Keep in mind, anime have a team of several people working to get an episode out. However, the manga has ONE person working on it.
Just keep in mind, these Bleach "Fillers" Are a bit boring, and may not get on your nerves, but in terms of anime fillers there are a LOT worse.
And just so I have an excuse to use this thing....:doindadom

~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™
07-14-2006, 11:10 AM
lol... join the anti filler-arc FC.. get solace from the terrific bleach we all miss...

hellrockz
07-14-2006, 03:04 PM
lol... join the anti filler-arc FC.. get solace from the terrific bleach we all miss...
Stone... im in yur Anti Filler Arc FC but look here... NO ADVERSTINIG!!!

orange big heart
07-14-2006, 03:33 PM
At least they corrected the mess with keigo thing.
In the last episode hanataro said that they'll erase his memory!

so, like many have said : theres still hope!! :whatevah:

~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™
07-14-2006, 03:37 PM
yea... hopefully by looking the way things are going... ichigo and the others goin to fight the bountos head on....

~black butterfly~
07-14-2006, 04:19 PM
yeah, i'm not so fond of fillers.... but i understand their purpose.... its for character development and fillers in anime allows the manga to get ahead....

Undying
07-14-2006, 05:52 PM
Indeed... seems as though the fillers are attemping to explain some of the future manga developments (see: Ishida), and thus they are a neccessary evil.

opticlink
07-14-2006, 05:57 PM
I really hate filler episodes. I mean if only words could express this kind of emotion. But they are still not as bad as naruto fillers.

nikuwadoko
07-14-2006, 10:38 PM
fillers shouldnt have this kind of "development". they should be purposeless, humorous, and just plain random, to save all the good stuff for the main plot.

Jack Van Burace
07-14-2006, 10:57 PM
Be glad that they'll end in episode 96. Just a month and a half 2 go, yay!

Azalea
07-15-2006, 04:55 AM
Be glad that they'll end in episode 96. Just a month and a half 2 go, yay!

Is that classified information!?!?! If so, then BANZAi !!!

chiking1
07-15-2006, 05:00 AM
ARG!! I HATE FILLERS!! those vampires should all just die and let us continue with NON-fillers (or whatever you call them)

JuJuElite
07-15-2006, 05:20 AM
in plain words, fillers suck >.< they are so horribly side tracking from the true storyline, and just when you think some fillers arcs are getting goos, they sidetrack again and one might be put into a coma suffering from filler suckiness lol

JuJuElite
07-15-2006, 05:22 AM
everyone looks so weak against crappy VAMPIRES, who have crappy abilities and it seems that the shinigami were made weaker to be given some sort of challenge, i mean ichigo shouldnt have the trouble he had with them, needing help, i mean he defeated byakuya, so bounto should sorta be....b-slapped :sad:

Nicole
07-15-2006, 05:32 AM
Yeah...

I know that Renji, Matsumoto, and Kira all have restrictions, but Yumichika should've pwned them all by now at least.

And WTF, Ichigo? Maybe they put restrictions on him too, thus he can't use bankai. Pfft, whatever.

nikuwadoko
07-15-2006, 06:57 AM
Is that classified information!?!?! If so, then BANZAi !!!

I hope so!

Haidaes
07-15-2006, 09:15 AM
Be glad that they'll end in episode 96. Just a month and a half 2 go, yay!

I cant believe this. The manga isnt far enough from the anime atm. They would catch up in no time again and then they REALLY have problems with fillers , because there is no time where they could take place. The smal period of time they used for training cant be used either because Ichigo is busy , no matter what. Well maybe there will be a little place for fillers after the current battle....

Anyway , why do they not just take something like a summer break. After the ss arc it would have been soo easy to take a break , because they story kinda ended here and they wouldnt have to mess up the whole manga plot.

nikuwadoko
07-15-2006, 09:18 AM
I know they need a break to relax from all this struggle. and time to train. that's way better than fighting "bountos" and messing up the real plotline.

Icestorm
07-15-2006, 09:41 AM
well if any of u read the manga u would know the reason for them being weak.. is because of the..

power limiter, if this was taken off they would be much more powerful.. to be exact 5 times more powerful. But then again they are still weaker ..

but ill asume u dont

Haidaes
07-15-2006, 11:22 AM
You should read it again and rethink your statement.
Do you really think that if a V.C. can withstand an arrancar w/o release even with the power limiter and then can still be beaten by a stupid wannabe-vampire. Also think about that even in the manga we still havent seen the shikai of that dude with the number in his face. So he is doomed to stay and watch while others do use their power and he cant because they cvant screw up the story that bad.
I also dont get why they make matsumoto so weak , her shikai is supposed to be something like that of byakua or gaara (the sand dude from naruto) , but she just gets owned again by a stupid hand/eye what ever.
Oh and dont forget , the power limiter is only on V.C. and above , Yumichika shouldnt be effected by it at all.

On the other side its obvious that they will come back , It would be a shame if they were owned by the bount(o) w/o the slighest chance. THis would make the current wimp-ichigo look stronger than them...

nikuwadoko
07-15-2006, 11:25 AM
*bountos are more powerful than they seem!* 0_o heh not really.~

Pink_Paper_Heart
07-15-2006, 11:36 AM
okok...this is bleach anime thread. I'm assuming that pple here aren't talking abt the manga in any way.

As for my opinions regarding the fillers, I think they ought to really do better cuz the ep 88 is really damn crappy. I mean it's slow and they stop almost the same part regarding the quincy. What a waste of time.

yumisan
07-15-2006, 11:58 AM
yes..i agree that episode 88 is crappy and it sucks.they can do better than that.time was wasting much on the Quincy part and the fighting in the Bounto's hide out which it doesn't seems much to me is really a need.i was expecting something more interesting to happen.

Lovekiller93
07-15-2006, 12:38 PM
I think the episodes are alright.. The minor characters such as Nemu, Kira, Shuuhei, Yumichika and Matsumoto are getting more of a main role. Not saying that i love the fillers, but hey, at least its way better than Naruto ones.

RukiaYuza
07-15-2006, 12:51 PM
Hello! :)
I just read how bad Naruto fillers have gotten on ANN. It was very upsetting to hear.
Now I want the manga storyline back in the anime ASAP but the fillers at least try to tell a story. I really don't like the Bount. However I have liked to see some of the minor characters get a story like Kira, Hisagi, and the others. I also like the Mod Souls. So I can find something in the fillers to like.
Now I will say that I miss the likes of Aizen, Gin, and Tousen so I want the manga back. However in the meantime I am going to sit back and watch with happiness when they finally start wiping out the Bount.

Byakuya Teichou
07-15-2006, 02:38 PM
Yeah, like come on the fillers aren't that bad. I recon its a good story line that actually has a point not like Naruto which does one after the other.(I think they have lost many anime fans now) But anyway yeah its all good, but cant wait till they get the manga back on track to.

Jack Van Burace
07-15-2006, 03:48 PM
I cant believe this. The manga isnt far enough from the anime atm. They would catch up in no time again and then they REALLY have problems with fillers , because there is no time where they could take place. The smal period of time they used for training cant be used either because Ichigo is busy , no matter what. Well maybe there will be a little place for fillers after the current battle....
Anyway , why do they not just take something like a summer break. After the ss arc it would have been soo easy to take a break , because they story kinda ended here and they wouldnt have to mess up the whole manga plot.
If u think about it, they don't have to get so much apart. Just enough so the manga reaches a part where KT can squeeze up a new filler. I bet there are a lot of points in the storyline where KT will b able 2 put new short fillers, which I prefer much more than a huge single filler, don't u agree?

Haidaes
07-15-2006, 06:47 PM
Well could be. They could stretch the school-life thinks a bit. I just hope they dont start making stupid fillers like they did with naruto , which are by now the far worst fillers ive seen in anime. Smal battles or something like fullmetal panic famofu (think about schoollife with some smal hollow appearances) i could withstand , but something like the bounto , never again please :p

Eh edit:
They could also stretch the plot with little fillers that dont hurt or just do a break as i recommend. Looks like this is not common in japan , in my country they always take a break over the summer and save money instead of wasting some for fillers :p

CrimsonStar
07-15-2006, 06:49 PM
Basically, The fillers blow and need to end, before they do anymore damage to the hot hot hot plot.

Pink_Paper_Heart
07-15-2006, 08:48 PM
the only marks i give the fillers are the chance to see matsumoto and shuuhei..i miss my quincy though...he has very little air-time..

nikuwadoko
07-15-2006, 09:51 PM
how could KT have wrote this filler? I just don't get this. This "vampire" thing is totally not his style. Plus the main characters are not very in character.

Buuhan1
07-15-2006, 10:18 PM
the only marks i give the fillers are the chance to see matsumoto and shuuhei..i miss my quincy though...he has very little air-time..

Be happy for that. If you did see more of him in the filler he would probably have to get his powers back and you know thats a big no no.

But this may very well be happening with the revealing of the episode 91 title.