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yunnie
02-27-2006, 05:31 PM
What do you think about the whole thing, because they are human, but they eat souls, so i wanted to know what you have thought of.

Dradam
02-27-2006, 05:36 PM
Evil, they feed off of people's souls. They cannot have a soul burial, and so cannot enter Rukongai.

Undying
02-27-2006, 05:43 PM
They aren't evil, they're demented~! :D somehow I think that woman (what was her name again? The Bound woman) isn't all that bad. While Jin (the Dracula guy) and the guy with Friido (what kind of a damn stupid name is it?) are totally evil.

Dradam
02-27-2006, 05:46 PM
I agree with ^ there is something odd about that woman... i reckon she's gonna rebel or summin' and find an alternative source of food other than souls. or summin like that, she may even join Ichigo and the others... who knows apart from the creaters...

WizKid
02-27-2006, 08:21 PM
I think they are evil

Kooy
02-27-2006, 08:37 PM
basically from last week's episode you could see signs that she is going to rebel against other bount members. either this week or next week episode it will happen

chakra25
02-27-2006, 08:43 PM
I think it depends... like different races, they can be bad or good. I think the female may be neutral or good. Her doll is too awesome to be evil... :)

Nood
02-27-2006, 08:48 PM
Killing peoples to gain immortality. Sounds 100% evil to me.

_Ink
02-27-2006, 09:00 PM
vampires are not necessarily evil, for them, it is a means of survival, of course, they do have the option to eat "dead" soul rather take it from people who are alive, as explained by Youruichi.
What can be said is that at the moment they do look less than good.
Perhaps the woman might be of changing sides later, what worries is the head, who does have that evil look.

Despair
02-27-2006, 09:22 PM
I think normally they were neutral, but since they're eating living human souls it will be explained in the story,
'cause that just begun because of this abnormality that they're eating living human souls.

I hope it doesn't end in: "Living souls taste better so now we are evil ..." that would be too simple -_-

and like devildude said: it's necessary to survive.

Dradam
02-27-2006, 09:25 PM
Well... i still think the girl will rebel, but then they would need to sort the problem of the need to eat... interesting to see how it plays out...

Caesar
02-28-2006, 12:00 AM
where there signes??
oww maybe you are right i got the same feeling!

Byakuya7
02-28-2006, 12:59 AM
The two guys are definently evil, im not too sure about the girl though. Maybe some "bounto" just want to live forever and they dont see taking other human life to achieve that goal as wrong. Survival of the fittest!

Zanga
02-28-2006, 01:09 AM
I think there is a reason for them to start feeding on living souls...maybe they're gathering stregth for an even more threatning foe O_O *gets shot* We can't really say they're evil, good or neutrel until we find out what their motive is...

The_lone_sprit
02-28-2006, 01:20 AM
I would call them Evil because they suck out human souls which I would thing would not be good but that is what i have to say.

Sandal Hat
02-28-2006, 01:24 AM
I think its pretty obvious by now that they are evil.

ade.hell
02-28-2006, 01:42 AM
The qestion is like are vampires good or evil?
Anne Rice showed they can be good...

Tanya
02-28-2006, 05:33 AM
Yes, evil, but for a good reason (I would think!)

P4rD0nM3
02-28-2006, 06:09 AM
I think that the female bound is hawt.

K.Ogawa
02-28-2006, 07:45 AM
Killing peoples to gain immortality. Sounds 100% evil to me.

yuppers. +1

Undying
02-28-2006, 09:44 AM
no, not evil. Just selfish.

FuRuKi~Shinigami
02-28-2006, 02:29 PM
Hm... it's kinda complicated...
They were humans, but now, they are killing people... that's too ironic...
Well, they are they, as u are u... they can't be classified as good ones or bad ones, it just depends on our point of view... maybe they are a bit evilish... but maybe they don't have any other choices...

Aaaah... I'm confused!!!

BeeCrest
02-28-2006, 03:08 PM
I think it's obvious that their motives (the two guys motives at least) are evil.

Saying they are evil because they eat souls to survive? I'm not sure.

WizKid
02-28-2006, 08:40 PM
So what you guys are saying is that eating LIVING person's soul, even though you can eat a dead one is not evil?????

I think some people are using a different definition of evil here...

Dradam
02-28-2006, 08:43 PM
Evil is subjective, we discussed this in another thread. There is no such thing as good and evil it is simply how we percieve them...

Undying
02-28-2006, 09:15 PM
Well, put the "good or evil" discussion aside... it was mentioned by Urahara that they only eat dead souls. In other words, they are like Hollow but they do it not because they are creatures of instinct and blah blah, but because
they "have" too (Vampires).

I... really don't know whether that's good or evil. While if we put it into a normal society of people on Earth, it is an abomination and cannot exist, blah blah blah, they are the same as the Quincy, with the exeption that they eat souls in order to stay alive for ever. Quincys simply destroyed Hollows. Are the Quincy evil?

Rabid_Wolverine
02-28-2006, 09:30 PM
I have a hunch that that woman is going to help Ichigo and that lot. But generally the Bound are evil.

Nood
02-28-2006, 09:49 PM
lol.
That woman just killed an innocent (and tried to kill 2 other) when they first met. What a beautiful relationship will that be.
They are totally evil.
They could live like normal ppls, instead they kill ppls or souls to live immortal and continue killing.
The main bound guy must be pretty strong if Ichigo will need the biatchs aid.

Chrono Detector
03-01-2006, 04:11 AM
Evil, need to say more? Sucking out people's souls sounds definately evil to me. Doesn't sound good to me at all.

Kyouka Suigetsu
03-01-2006, 04:50 AM
Perhaps they aren't evil, but I could see how their activities might upset the balance. Seeing as how there are only three of them we know of, I don't think they have the numbers to do any serious damage. The crux is that Shinigami are given the task of defending living humans from things of a spiritual nature. Given that they have already killed some people, SS is going to hunt them down and kill them. A tiger may need to eat a person to survive, but no people oriented society would let it get its nourishment just because "it has to feed." Plus, do they reall need to feed on souls or are they just doing it to extend their lives?

M_Ghey
03-01-2006, 05:11 AM
In the anime, they are evil, yet they can be perceived as good. I mean, they HAVE to eat people's souls or whatever to survive.

Rokusaburo
03-01-2006, 06:06 AM
Indeed, The Bount are views as another sub-class of hybrid degenerates.

Much like the Quincy. They were regarded as Vampiers. They have the ability to be immortal and up until now they have only proven to be evil.

So... take your pick

_senbonzakura_
03-01-2006, 06:31 AM
ahh, they are neutral......its just bad for humans that their souls are going to be eaten......thats all....And i have to agree with Master Aizen.......

choking
03-01-2006, 12:35 PM
theyre on a feeding frenzy... hehehe... they have an unknown plan too. ^ ^

Undying
03-01-2006, 01:02 PM
Well, if the Bound have to eat people's souls than it's like a tiger... it has to be killed.... However if they feed on dead souls only than it doesn't really matter... three aren't enough to disturb the blanace, plus I got the impression they eat once in a long while.

Marke
03-01-2006, 01:26 PM
the both male we have seen seams pritty evil, the girl im not sure about yet.

wonders what she is up too.

MazdaRxEight
03-01-2006, 11:23 PM
they eat people's soul for dinner, but the people's soul die or soemthing, so the soul being destroyed part is bad

ade.hell
03-02-2006, 01:04 PM
I guess they can be whathever they want to be. Jus like humans.

Those two guys seem to be evil, but I'm not sure if they don't want to protect some kind of tradiction or something like that.

choujiwong
03-03-2006, 05:18 AM
They're evil... ... if my soul is being sucked by a Bount..then..in the end..I became a pile of dust...ooo..scary...I don't wanna die in that way...I rather get knocked dead by matsumoto's boobs...LOL..no offense..LOL1

Tyenkrovy
03-03-2006, 06:14 AM
I'm wondering if human souls are the only source of nourishment for the Bound/Bounto (not sure which is correct), or if they merely consume souls to extend their lifespans beyond that of a normal human. If it's the former, then how is it any more evil than we humans eating the animals around us for sustenance? There is the arguement that human souls are sentient - although, by the literal sense of that word, any creature that can feel is sentient, so "sapient" is probably the more correct word.

Kyouka Suigetsu
03-03-2006, 07:19 AM
This is kind of off topic, but what do you guys think of the bound's powers? The dolls are pretty cool. At least, the female one's fire apparition looked interesting and seemed powerful. The snake one was pretty lame. To me they seem similar to the spirits of zapakuto's. Except with the Bound, they summon that independent spirit to fight for them instead of using it as a weapon that needs to be wielded.

WizKid
03-03-2006, 08:54 AM
I believe it said in the Anime that they eat souls to EXTEND their life, not to live a normal life

Hollow_Man_ct
03-03-2006, 10:33 AM
they're like an overcharge, they must keep overcharging their life length cause if they don't they would die instantely cause they're already waaaay past the normal life limit

Marke
03-03-2006, 03:02 PM
well since they kill people not to live, but to live longer. that kinda makes them evil in my eyes.

Enkou Kitsune
03-05-2006, 10:18 PM
I think they are evil, but not on the same plane as Aizen... The two males are definitely evil, and are up to something, I agree. The oldest one said something like, "The darkness is falling..." and that's never a good thing in any kind of anime...lol

The woman isn't as bad, I don't think...She may be a vampirical Bountu, but she's not as malicious about it. She may have just been defending herself from Ichigo, and she's constantly mistreated by the other two...

to put it in DnD terms...the two males seem Neutral Evil, and the Female seems Lawful Evil, or Chaotic Neutral...if anyone gets that reference...

Tyenkrovy
03-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Enkou Kitsune: I'm probably the only one that got it at all, lol. I've been playing D&D since junior high, off and on.

vision33r
03-05-2006, 11:44 PM
they are just hungry vampires that don't want any attention..

sto67
03-05-2006, 11:53 PM
im with ^. they just want to live forever using whatever means possible. its not like they want to take over the world, they just want to be a part of it. but in absolute terms i guess that means they are evil *shrugs*

splic3r
03-06-2006, 03:21 AM
to put it in DnD terms...the two males seem Neutral Evil, and the Female seems Lawful Evil, or Chaotic Neutral...if anyone gets that reference...
hehe, i get the referrence

i think that it could also be becuase of ichigo that they are now coming out.
they eat souls of the dead right? well since ichigo became active they have had less and less food to work with because all of the plus' only even exist because they are having issues (insert badly drawn pic here). they make only a small percent of human deaths. normally the bound/bountu can eat a few across the world and no one notices, but if all the 'free' souls get soul burials, they are kinda out of options arent they?

the tiger arguement seems fitting. if you can stay alive, and are powerful enough to have an impact on your world, wouldnt you try? heck some could say they are preventing plus' from becoming hollows by cleaning up their souls
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cheesydud
03-08-2006, 02:12 AM
i would say there are neutral normally but
since they suck people's souls out for personal use
THEY ARE EVIL >:O

XxOrooxX
03-08-2006, 04:38 AM
iiiiiiiiiiii really dunno... but if u ask me its just a BIG filler... until they can find something GREAT for Aizen's story... in the end the vamps will die and Aizen will show up with his minions

Kune
03-08-2006, 04:50 AM
Ep. 71 kinda clearing this department up. The two male Bounts want power at the expense of the world, the female Bount wants to stop them.

WizKid
03-08-2006, 06:25 AM
So we're right, they are EVIL...

Kyouka Suigetsu
03-08-2006, 08:17 AM
Why do these villians have to be so stereotypical of fillers. They couldn't have made flatter characters if they had cut them out of tissue paper. Why not try and give them some depth? Oh well, the people who came up with this plot line probably think Bleach is just some brainless action anime. *sigh*

Shinji
03-08-2006, 09:31 AM
I agree with Undying, that woman probably isn't evil but the rest seems to be. Especially their leader.

tenken
03-11-2006, 07:36 AM
well this newest anime episode kinda explains it... bound are generally supposed to be neutral, kind of like quincy..i wouldn't say quincy are good cuz they almost destroyed earth and SS.. anyways... like the woman bounto explained... bounto aren't supposed to eat human soul cuz they know it distrupts the balance and they even have "bounto laws" against it... but with every race... ther are those who are evil and those who are good... the bounto themselves are evil but jin is totaly badass... frido.. i odn' tknow.. i think he's just jin's *****...

Centro
03-11-2006, 07:44 AM
How can you say she's not evil when she EATS SOULS! :p

tenken
03-11-2006, 07:46 AM
she's only eating human souls right now to get strong to fight jin and stop his evil plan, she even said she'll stop doing it...

which raises another question.. if they don't eat human souls or not supposed to... what the hell do they eat?

UraharaTenchou
03-11-2006, 07:55 AM
i think yoshino, the girl is neutral, the rest is pretty obvious

Centro
03-11-2006, 08:25 AM
She said she'll stop eat human souls out of live humans....she's still going to eat human souls.

Kyouka Suigetsu
03-11-2006, 08:27 AM
This is kind of off topic, but it has been bugging me. What happens to a dead or living soul when it's eaten by a bount though? What happens to a living soul when its eaten by a hollow? What happens to a hollow's soul when killed by a Quincy? None of these questions are really answered. I know for the hollows that they're destroyed completely and don't go to SS, but is it permanent or are they just immediately reincarnated instead of going through the "fixing period" in SS?

The_Supervisor
03-11-2006, 10:34 AM
I guess that when you have your soul eaten it just adds to the soul of the one who ate it and that's the end. And when hollows are killed they get their souls destroyed, so they're gone forever.

Nood
03-11-2006, 11:57 AM
This is kind of off topic, but it has been bugging me. What happens to a dead or living soul when it's eaten by a bount though? What happens to a living soul when its eaten by a hollow? What happens to a hollow's soul when killed by a Quincy? None of these questions are really answered. I know for the hollows that they're destroyed completely and don't go to SS, but is it permanent or are they just immediately reincarnated instead of going through the "fixing period" in SS?

Facts:
If a Quincy kills a Hollow, the soul gets destroyed, and it wont exist anymore in any form.
If a shinigami kills a Hollow he purifies it and than its gets through ss and stuff than gets reincarnated.

And since they said that the Bounto are like the Quincys im pretty sure they destroy the soul when eating it. (since only zanpakuto can purify it)
If a Hollow eats a soul if i remember good ti can become a part of the Hollow, or become a Hollow himself.

Z_Blitz
03-11-2006, 12:25 PM
I doubt they are as evil as they seem to be... If they were to be classified then they'll be classified like quincys, i.e. they are not evil per say but they are not good either. Killing off the dead souls would mean that less go to Soul Society but then again think of it this way, that also means that less people become hollows. So its a tradeoff here really.

Of course here I was discussing what the NORMAL bount do. The ones that they show in the anime (i.e. Jim and that weird "butler" who's name escapes me right now) are evil.

Nood
03-11-2006, 12:43 PM
I doubt they are as evil as they seem to be... If they were to be classified then they'll be classified like quincys, i.e. they are not evil per say but they are not good either. Killing off the dead souls would mean that less go to Soul Society but then again think of it this way, that also means that less people become hollows. So its a tradeoff here really.
Of course here I was discussing what the NORMAL bount do. The ones that they show in the anime (i.e. Jim and that weird "butler" who's name escapes me right now) are evil.

Lol, thats like "We should kill all hte pluses so none of them become Hollows" logic.

What other Bounto's? Did someone say that there are others?
They are perfectly evil, killing souls/peoples to gain immortality, its like the thing what every badguy in every movie wants.

ade.hell
03-12-2006, 09:12 AM
But if they wouldn't try to eat human souls, they would be still human beeings? Am I right?
What kind of sick human would try to eat another's soul???? :confused:

MVIK
03-12-2006, 09:15 AM
I think they were neutral at 1st, but something mus hav cause them to go evil...

Nood
03-12-2006, 10:41 AM
But if they wouldn't try to eat human souls, they would be still human beeings? Am I right?
What kind of sick human would try to eat another's soul???? :confused:
Thats the point, once they were just like Ichigo or Ishida, they saw ghosts walking around...than they started to eat them lol.

ade.hell
03-13-2006, 10:56 AM
Eat souls?....

How? If they could touch them, they should responce as another human...

Those fillerepisodemakers suck...

Caesar
03-14-2006, 11:35 AM
they seemed pretty logical.. i guess the reasons for what they became will be given to us later!!

EXcrusher
03-17-2006, 03:28 AM
those other to bound guys are badass but tat woman she could be good.

cheesydud
03-18-2006, 04:59 AM
they werent really evil
until they started sucking out living souls

Kuta~
03-19-2006, 10:17 PM
I dont really see them as one group of people to be classed as good, evil or neutral....the way i see it there is no REAL allegiance or friendship between any of them...theyre like selfish individuals finding things to benefit only themselves but only Cooperate because they are told or forced to.....some are good and some are evil...simple as that Imo.

Hollow_Man_ct
03-20-2006, 07:23 AM
The guys are evil the girl is good, end of story

Hotaru
03-20-2006, 04:00 PM
The guys are evil the girl is good, end of story
Really... well i can figure that out... altho I have seen 71 or 72 yet...

Hollow_Man_ct
03-20-2006, 09:22 PM
juss trying to end this convo in a short and specific way, the episodes show it all, so no need for explanation.

beautifulrandomness
03-20-2006, 09:40 PM
I don't think the ep's do show it all though. Yeah the girl is now apparently trying to stop them but that doesnt mean she objected right from the start though, which doesn't make her wholy good. And yes the head guy *searches vainly in head for name but to no avail* seems to be evil, hellbent on destruction of the world etc. But the other guy is being controlled by the head guy, so is he fully evil, or being manipulated, or completely controlled? I don't think that by merely watching the eps such a blanket decision is apparent. ALthough I haven't seen this weeks yet...

Centro
03-20-2006, 11:10 PM
To all the people who think a Bounto could possible be good...they eat human souls!!!!

In the first episode of bleach we saw a hollow chasing a little girl soul. In the anime she gets away, in the manga she is eaten. Never-the-less we all thought of hollows as evil cause they want to EAT SOULS!

How are the bounto different from hollows?

Hollow_Man_ct
03-21-2006, 07:51 AM
Hollows are souls, Bountou are humans with special powers, Bountou's lives depend on devouring human souls, Hollows don't ( they live till they are slain ), Bountou use dolls ( weapons ), Hollows rely on self-abilities.

Centro
03-21-2006, 08:12 AM
Bounto don't seem to need to eat souls to live. They eat souls so they can live longer than normal. And the fact that they are humans and understand what they are doing (not mindless killers like hollows) makes them worse than hollows IMO.

beautifulrandomness
03-21-2006, 03:29 PM
But Hollows like the Fisher King aren't mindless, they are cunning and pick their victims for sheer personal amusement. So does that make the Bounto as evil as them because they wanted to take Ishida first because he was a Quincy (therefore picking a victim by personal preference). I don't think they can be compared in terms of Hollows vs. Bounto because they are too different.