battle this sig

[dragoneyes001]

next battle

same as usual no anim.
first to 5 wins
i'll post as soon as chalenger does.

[unwaken]

I'll battle you with this.

http://www.filehigh.com/serve/12174/120365.jpg

i know its sucky. :sad: but i <3 maya! hahaha and i know i know. the font sucks :face82:

[dragoneyes001]

k i'll use this

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/dragoneyes001/nextpairpoping.jpg

lmao from the replies its obvious this forum is stuck on one very specific very narow style of sig deviate from that and its (v look below) guess the modern plastic look with colors to match is too non-comformist by the sounds of it guess to battle here i'll have to make the sigs look just as boring and same old same old!

[Sacred-kun]

unwaken gmv, very nice render, text, brushing and border. everything seems to fit nicely :D

dragoneyes, yours is absolutely horrible, your redner is blurry, the color scheme is awkward and the text is too plain

[BeeCrest]

unwaken gmv
It's kawaii and everything in the sig works well together

dragon: I don't like how the girls are coming out of the screen-thing.

[dragon_slayer]

Unwaken>GMV
Nice sig but don like the render it is alil stretched!
Dragon: Don like anthink of your sig!

[Xeon]

unwaken gmv , nice sig :)

dragoneyes : your siggy looks like u cut out the things from another wall paper.

[HallowDude]

a good sigs requires
-good render cut out
-a good brush maybe a few layers of brushing
-good ps effect including blending
-good choice of colors that matches

Unwaken GMV
Dragoneyes- at least look at ppls sigs and ask yourself "can i do better?" and try to overcome the obsticals :biggthump (not trying to be mean, juss trying to help out a lil)

[db]

My Vote goes to Unwaken


lmao from the replies its obvious this forum is stuck on one very specific very narow style of sig deviate from that and its (v look below) guess the modern plastic look with colors to match is too non-comformist by the sounds of it guess to battle here i'll have to make the sigs look just as boring and same old same old!

I believe thats not the problem. Its your skills at hand is why you are losing. THe quality of the stock you are using is not quite top notch. Need to improve them. I like the effect of the pop up you used but the top with the space and planets killed it. Outer glow on stocks are shunned upon since it doesnt look that great except on special cases. What Image Program you use anyway?

[ChansteR]

My Vote goes to Unwaken
I believe thats not the problem. Its your skills at hand is why you are losing. THe quality of the stock you are using is not quite top notch. Need to improve them. I like the effect of the pop up you used but the top with the space and planets killed it. Outer glow on stocks are shunned upon since it doesnt look that great except on special cases. What Image Program you use anyway?

he is right btw, stock quality is horrible (not to sound mean, speaking truth), and you say the modern plastic look, I dont see any plastic type look on the sigs around here. your sig has no border on it, the frame on it, if you look carefully, isnt even all the way even on both sides, planets are so random and dont even fit with the sig at all. BUT, it does have a lil unique side to it. Like DB asked, what program do you use???

btw, unwaken gmv

[unwaken]

lmao from the replies its obvious this forum is stuck on one very specific very narow style of sig deviate from that and its (v look below) guess the modern plastic look with colors to match is too non-comformist by the sounds of it guess to battle here i'll have to make the sigs look just as boring and same old same old!

hmmm I don't know to feel amused or slightly insulted.

sighs... sorry for making conformist sigs then... :eek13:

gah! its just that i'm new at this sig making biz too. -_=

anyway thanks everybody for the votes. :) i'll try harder next time.

[maximoose666]

guess the modern plastic look with colors to match is too non-comformist by the sounds of it

Don't kid yourself. We love non-conformist sigs, we just expect them to be done well. That's why so many SOTW winners have been non-conformist sigs, eg. for the FSN theme and the Valentines theme - and the Vector theme. However, the sigs you used don't even look like plastic. They just look ugly, and as if no thought or effort went into them. Are you even using Photoshop or Gimp? Because they have an MS Paint look to them.
with colors to match
Another reason you lost is that the colours in your sig don't match at all, they clash horribly with each other. Spend some time looking at a colour wheel if you are unsure what to do about this.
You can be original without making your sig look ugly, you know. Some of the greatest non-conformist art of the 20th and 21st centuries looks striking and elegant - I cite Banksy as an example.

It's a pity some people are such bad losers...

Anyway, I would like to critique unwaken's sig, because I think it is pretty good, and not "boring" or "conformist", as Dragoneyes implicated.
The sig is nice and compact, although the render is a little blurry. Text should be smaller and less elaborate in my opinion. good job :)

[dragoneyes001]

since this has become a thread of opinions i guess i get to conceded the match vote count is unanimus.

now lets put this as my parting remark:

for one this is a hobby at best i'm not going to change career to making sigs.
plus! its lucky i'll plunk much more than an hour into a sig.
but even so between all those who have comented who among you has sold upwards of two hundred thousand dollars of your art? between paintings and prints i've easily made this much needless to say they had real time spent on them and were not limited to the programs presets also most were comissions to make exactly what the client asked for which I happen to be very good at.
dont take these contest so seriously its not like your lives depend on them even if your art majors! and just so you dont think i'm blowing air in the coming days i'll change my sig to one that looks just like the rest!
and no worries I don't feel slited everyone has a right to their opinions but please keep in mind not everyones opinions mirrors your own especialy about artwork whats junk to one person will be good or great to another an exaple of this is the white canvas painting or many welded object art pieces if your persuing art you'll always like one piece over another its your personal opinion of those pieces.

[Luso Clemens]

Bleh, Dragoneyes, all of your sigs are super ugly... you should pay more attention to them... they're KILLING ME with the sheer horrible skills on it, man... I wasn't even this bad when I started, and yeah, I know the battle is over <_< but Unawaken gets an extra vote from me
*gags at Dragon's sigs*

[fuoheru]

lmao from the replies its obvious this forum is stuck on one very specific very narow style of sig deviate from that and its (v look below) guess the modern plastic look with colors to match is too non-comformist by the sounds of it guess to battle here i'll have to make the sigs look just as boring and same old same old!
Same old same old? I don't think the problem here is the style. Most of the time the stocks you choose are of poor quality. This makes the sig look really unappealing. Also with your sigs the colors don't flow together or atleast IMO. You know I actually think if you learned more about the program and how to use it. Or if you looked at some tutorials on making signatures and blending things in. You could keep your style and maybe even win a battle. All it takes is experience and practice.
And.. Thing don't you think you're being a bit harsh to him? Your comments are pretty insulting and aren't really necessary or you could tone it down a bit at least. Not everybody starts out great when they try something new. :I

Anyways, back to the thread, Unwaken GMV

[HallowDude]

the style we all make sigs are not the same :winking56
dragoneyes i hope u can tell the diff between good and ugly
thats where we are trying to help u out, sigs are about style and the prettiness of it. Yours is plain no style no taste,therefor u can compare
THIS:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/Legendarypho/ItachiSigcopy.jpg
to
This:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/Legendarypho/KasumiBluecopy.jpg

[The Enigma]

*wades into the opinion-fest*
I'm going to have to side w/ Dragoneyes. Most sigs are different, but that's only with style. His sig is a welcome change to the things that I see at BP. Sure it might be a bit awkward w/ colors and superficial stuff, but his entry has far more skill demonstrated than this:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/Legendarypho/ItachiSigcopy.jpg
^That slop can't even compare to Dragon's sig Hallow
Dragon, your sig is kind of deviant from the norm, but this kind of criticism is expected. I don't know how long you've been doing this, but try to pick up some more experience. Here's an awesome graphics community that is full of helpful people if you want to join LINK (http://forums.xtreme-pixel.com/forums.html)
Just to warn you, they're a bit conformist. Just do an intro and explain your style and I'm sure they'll welcome you in.

[HallowDude]

*wades into the opinion-fest*
I'm going to have to side w/ Dragoneyes. Most sigs are different, but that's only with style. His sig is a welcome change to the things that I see at BP. Sure it might be a bit awkward w/ colors and superficial stuff, but his entry has far more skill demonstrated than this:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c39/Legendarypho/ItachiSigcopy.jpg
^That slop can't even compare to Dragon's sig Hallow
Dragon, your sig is kind of deviant from the norm, but this kind of criticism is expected. I don't know how long you've been doing this, but try to pick up some more experience. Here's an awesome graphics community that is full of helpful people if you want to join LINK (http://forums.xtreme-pixel.com/forums.html)
Just to warn you, they're a bit conformist. Just do an intro and explain your style and I'm sure they'll welcome you in.
I WAS JUST USING AN EXAMPLE :eek13:

[Dano Duan]

well I 'm a noob too, but from what I observed, i have to say both parties are pretty much right. Many of the signatures on thsi forum are simliar to all the other signatures in terms of style. There is an emphasis on brushing and scanlines and the notorious "dont embross your stock, it looks bad" view shared by most members. Although I can agree with some of the stylistic choices made, I think dragoneyes has a point, that the styles are a bit repetitive adn bland... and beceause everyone chooses to think like this, new innovation is a bit hard to come by...

HOWEVEr, dragoneyes, im sorry dude... your signature is just not pleasing to my tastes. Lets take for example your usually signature, the frost dragon and the weird wizard... although tis a bit old school in its stock (which can be cool) it isnt very appealing. The colors are damp, and bland, and what your trying to capture in your signature is a battle between teh dragon and the wizard (i m assuming so forigve if i m wrong) but the signature does not give off that impression. The wizard and the dragon looks like they just been copied and pasted to your background.
I also dont understand this "plastic" look your trying to go for...
and lastly... it just seems that your a bit spiteful that you lost. It seems that you already knew that you were going to lose from the begining (your previous posts) therefore it is not the other members fault that you opened yourself up to criticism when you posted your signature. I feel that there is no reason why you should brag or even mention that you made more than 200000 dollars in art when firstly, this has nothing to do with that, and secondly, that does not prove how much creativity or effort anyone puts into their work. There is no need to make someone feel smaller by stating how much money you make or belittling someone by saying "dont treat this competition as if it your life depended on it" because simply put, most of these guys are just trying to improve, no one should diss that.

[dragoneyes001]

well I 'm a noob too, but from what I observed, i have to say both parties are pretty much right. Many of the signatures on thsi forum are simliar to all the other signatures in terms of style. There is an emphasis on brushing and scanlines and the notorious "dont embross your stock, it looks bad" view shared by most members. Although I can agree with some of the stylistic choices made, I think dragoneyes has a point, that the styles are a bit repetitive adn bland... and beceause everyone chooses to think like this, new innovation is a bit hard to come by...
HOWEVEr, dragoneyes, im sorry dude... your signature is just not pleasing to my tastes. Lets take for example your usually signature, the frost dragon and the weird wizard... although tis a bit old school in its stock (which can be cool) it isnt very appealing. The colors are damp, and bland, and what your trying to capture in your signature is a battle between teh dragon and the wizard (i m assuming so forigve if i m wrong) but the signature does not give off that impression. The wizard and the dragon looks like they just been copied and pasted to your background.
I also dont understand this "plastic" look your trying to go for...
and lastly... it just seems that your a bit spiteful that you lost. It seems that you already knew that you were going to lose from the begining (your previous posts) therefore it is not the other members fault that you opened yourself up to criticism when you posted your signature. I feel that there is no reason why you should brag or even mention that you made more than 200000 dollars in art when firstly, this has nothing to do with that, and secondly, that does not prove how much creativity or effort anyone puts into their work. There is no need to make someone feel smaller by stating how much money you make or belittling someone by saying "dont treat this competition as if it your life depended on it" because simply put, most of these guys are just trying to improve, no one should diss that.

this will get deleted since i've lost count of votes against! but for the few minutes it may stay up and since i'm probably going to be banned for posting after its over I'll say this: any of you who know printing know this when you work a photo positive you enlarge your work as much as possible. this is so when you've finished doing the work you reduce it to final size which sharpens all the detail but what happens in comp graphics is the complete opposit! details disapear lines get fuzy...etc....etc.. you get what i mean.
this is the type of work i've learnt over many years so its still ingrained to use larger pics to get characters from. that said you refered to sticking someones nose in it by mentioning that i have aquired a good some from doing artwork well it was a comparison that doing this(making sigs) holds no real form of profit for me I'm not going to change career to computer graphics. the only person that seems to deserve being told that I've made crap loads of cash at art what have you done is thing!

[Dano Duan]

hmm, i dont really understand what your last sentence meant... sorry, grammatically and sensically, it just didnt flow. Anyways, I am in no waycriticizing your career as an artist or whatnot. All i am saying is that even though you make thousands of dollars through your career gives you no right to indirectly put people down for what they do. What you did in the post concerning how much money you make implies that because you make that much money, we should all bow down to you since we don't make that much money or have a career in art. I merely explained that the people on this forum try to help and critique and push each other to become better at making signatures, no one attacked your talent in your real career because it has nothing to do what was discussed in this thread.

I'm sorry that this seems sort of like flaming, but I hate it when people who think they are better than other people and speak condescendingly to other simply because they make more money. No one doubts your talent or skill, dont take it too seriously.

Oh and next time you respond to someone's post, please make it more thought out, i took the time to address the issue at hand while you decide to blunder over how photoshop works and your attempt at what i assume is an insult just didn't make sense

[The Enigma]

I WAS JUST USING AN EXAMPLE :eek13:
Haha, sry. I just don't rly like people discouraging others on doing stuff. When I read some of the replies, like "This is crap", I just kinda vented a bit.

[Luso Clemens]

Actually, people, the signature battle was over since like... last page, I was just throwing my opinion onto the fire, no reason for everyone else to do it too :^

[.Samurai]

it seems like unwaken always battles dragon

[SumpfFuchs]

Attention, being many here are too damned blind to see this, THE BATTLE IS OVER, good game to whoever won, all of you stop, I dont care if your entire family heritage is in graphics design, or if your dads dog won a award for resizing pictures using a 2x4, if you are going to argue and spam in battle threads then you will be warned, and consider this a group warning.