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Abarai Renji
03-09-2006, 03:18 AM
maybe fall, maybe in 3 years, who knows, but Viz liscensed bleach, and wil aire it on CN. it might be toonami, though i think they are leaning more toward to AS (unfortunatly for me since i think bleach would fit better with toonami)

(i think most of you will still download it though, i know i will)

Quiet Demon
03-09-2006, 03:23 AM
Do you know how many episodes have been so far?

db
03-09-2006, 03:24 AM
Indeed, Viz Media has acquired Bleach for quite awhile. It most likely be appearing on Adult Swim.

http://animeondvd.com/
http://www.c21media.net/search/search.asp?keyword=bleach&search_go.x=0&search_go.y=0

Old News :)

SumDumGai
03-09-2006, 03:47 AM
maybe fall, maybe in 3 years, who knows, but Viz liscensed bleach, and wil aire it on CN. it might be toonami, though i think they are leaning more toward to AS (unfortunatly for me since i think bleach would fit better with toonami)
(i think most of you will still download it though, i know i will)

Toonami would edit the anime to hell, I hope that it airs on Adult swim if anything. I kind of don't even want to see it dubbed after hearing Naruto voice actors, but hopefully it's good...

tyson1
03-09-2006, 03:52 AM
It came out late last night, and is said by animeon dvd that Bleach has been licensed by Viz. Its a sad day if its true, cause they will either rip it apart, or have horrible voice actors.... like I always say, North American people cannot express emotion as well as Japanese people.

Anyway, check out animeondvd if you wanna know more. But, some people think this is bull, mainly because Viz hasn't even announced this, no one else has said its true, and animesuki hasn't taken it off downloads.

What are your opinions? Yeah of nay?

Sandal Hat
03-09-2006, 03:55 AM
*shrug*

I'll still download it

StyleS
03-09-2006, 03:58 AM
how come they don't even get real voice actors? Like the ones in the movies, not the ones they just pick up off the street. -_-

Sandal Hat
03-09-2006, 04:08 AM
ZOMG This is shocking news!

db
03-09-2006, 04:13 AM
how come they don't even get real voice actors? Like the ones in the movies, not the ones they just pick up off the street. -_-

The cost of hiring good actors. They supposely do hire good actors...Not all dub are bad :p.

Abarai Renji
03-09-2006, 04:22 AM
heh, i hope they dont use realy bad VA's. ill be so freaking mad... i dont know what ill do if the VA's are crap... oh and i wonder what they will rename bleach too, since bleach being renamed seems likely.

db
03-09-2006, 04:24 AM
Highly Doubt it. I havent seen most of the anime being changed from their original title. I dont really care if the dubs are good or not since I'm not even going to watch it.

Icestorm
03-09-2006, 05:00 AM
GTO was good dubbing

SumDumGai
03-09-2006, 05:18 AM
Kind of related to topic since this is from anime news network... Episode 72 title has been released.
72. Water Attack! Escape from the Shutdown Hospital
Sounds kind of more exciting than usual... well no.. no not really. ; ;

kumagoro_usagi
03-09-2006, 07:03 AM
Errr....you do realise you spelled "now" as "know" right?

Anyway, I think its best if it goes on Adult Swim.

AznPoi
03-09-2006, 07:10 AM
Of IF Viz officially license Bleach... That makes all bleach downloads illegal right? Meaning there will be like no sites that will upload it.

ultimate
03-09-2006, 07:30 AM
i think there will be still websites that upload it if bleach is licensed... i am sure that the dub will suck and many characters and item names will be changed... better to keep downloading the subbed eps

RukiaYuza
03-09-2006, 07:48 AM
Hello! :)
I am hopeful that Bleach will be done right. Whatever studio gets it I hope that it will be done right. If the dub is not right I will just watch the Japanese track on the DVD.
Now as to getting high priced Hollywood type of actors to do voices I am rather against getting these actors. For one thing they must cost a great deal of money and that will mean that something else will have to go. Another thing they work in live action and for the most part most live action actors would not want to make the commitment to doing an anime for a long period of time. I know that there are a lot of really talented voice actors out there. I don't think it is fair to say that it is the voice actor fault when things don't go right on a dub. I feel that it is the people who translate the script and the director of the voice actor that causes the trouble.
I am hoping that Bleach will come over soon. I am also truly hoping for Adult Swim line up. I want the least amount of edits possible.
Now to stuff being put on download sites. Do they put up dubbed versions of shows? If so then no worries about the downloads. If not then worries.

Chrono Detector
03-09-2006, 08:05 AM
That is bad news. What sucks about dubbing anime is they are going to edit it. Why do they even bother? Great. As if I'm going near it. I'll be better off watching the subbed original version.

db
03-09-2006, 08:12 AM
People do purchase the US Dvd that has Jap audio included as a collection and not everyone watches anime on their computer.

RukiaYuza
03-09-2006, 08:17 AM
Hello! :)
They do not edit all dubs. Now they might to put it on the TV but more than likely not the DVD. Samurai Champloo, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Inuyasha have been on the TV with edits but complete on DVDs. I know because I have the DVDs. A lot of shows get edited for the TV but complete for the DVD. So I feel that they will have the un-edited version for DVD. I know that Naruto will have a set of un-edited but dubbed episodes soon and IGPX has an un-edited dub too.

Chrono Detector
03-09-2006, 08:37 AM
I'm pretty sure that all the anime DVDs I bought that were dubbed with japanese audios have been edited. Sometimes I can tell.

I don't understand why they have to edit anime if they dub it as well. I mean, if that anime is for teenagers or adults, why go through all the trouble just to edit it.

When I watch the special features how they interview the japanese directors or artists and they ask if they enjoyed the english dub. Of course I always hear them say yes. But really I bet some of them are lying just to make the company happy who dubbed it. My 2 cents anyway. If I was them I would have said no if it was really bad.

Hollow_Man_ct
03-09-2006, 08:58 AM
This might sound like i don't understand the topic but, i heard also somehing about the Viz-Bleach license on the homepage of www.bleachportal.net
so why don't you check it out and see if i'm right and this is all a rumor?

RukiaYuza
03-09-2006, 09:18 AM
Hello! :)
I have also heard that it might be a rumor. However it is ok to debate the topic a little. I am sure that one day Bleach will come over here. I hope that the rumor is true because that will mean that it will come sooner rather than later.

Rokusaburo
03-09-2006, 09:26 AM
GTO was good dubbing
Cuzz david lucas kicks ass lol

Hope he plays the voice of Ichigo

Entenie
03-09-2006, 09:56 AM
Personally I don't like dubs. I think the japanese voices already sounds cool to me.
Most of the times it also means there will be scenes cut out depending who's doing it. But perhaps ya'll should just wait en see what it turns out.

_Ink
03-09-2006, 10:15 AM
i just hope they at least make Chad sounds like a mexican or cuban....
and better hope Ichigo don't sound like a brat.

Entenie
03-09-2006, 11:09 AM
I wonder how maniacal the voice of Zaraki would sound like. It wouldn't work if they'd give him a wuss voice.

Hotaru
03-09-2006, 11:18 AM
I hope it is done well as the world deserves to know what a wonderful thing Bleach is....

ChronoTrigga
03-09-2006, 11:23 AM
Well maybe I can give some insight on this. The Bleach Manga is in English by Viz Media. That ends that rumor.

adorkable
03-09-2006, 11:23 AM
God, I hate the English dubs. They sound horrid. Well the majority of them do. That's why on TV I can change the language to English or Japanese and when I hear the English it is absolutely terrible. I'd prefer watching the anime in Japanese with English subtitles.

If they make Bleach with the English dubs I will eventually go crazy. The people who do them sound bad and don't have ANY emotion. It's basically like reading of the sheet! Ok, some sound good, but if they dub Bleach it better be good.

I wonder how maniacal the voice of Zaraki would sound like. It wouldn't work if they'd give him a wuss voice.
They better give him a good voice - not wussy and high pitched. :LOL:

Same goes for Ichigo and all the other characters. I really hope they don't dub the anime. Please. Only if it is good I'd be alright with that. Let's just wait and see... *sigh* It's not official yet that Viz has liscensed Bleach though. Oh well.

Hotaru
03-09-2006, 11:29 AM
God, I hate the English dubs. They sound horrid. Well the majority of them do. That's why on TV I can change the language to English or Japanese and when I hear the English it is absolutely terrible. I'd prefer watching the anime in Japanese with English subtitles.

If they make Bleach with the English dubs I will eventually go crazy. The people who do them sound bad and don't have ANY emotion. It's basically like reading of the sheet! Ok, some sound good, but if they dub Bleach it better be good.


They better give him a good voice - not wussy and high pitched. :LOL:

Same goes for Ichigo and all the other characters. I really hope they don't dub the anime. Please. Only if it is good I'd be alright with that. Let's just wait and see... *sigh* It's not official yet that Viz has liscensed Bleach though. Oh well.
Yep! Hear Hear!

Undying
03-09-2006, 03:16 PM
Me, I only liked the Rouroni Kenshin and the DBZ dubs. They were the ONLY ones that sounded decent (I actually prefered the English version of DBZ). If they give the characters decent voices, I may enjoy it. I'll still dl it though.

adorkable
03-09-2006, 03:29 PM
If the Bleach dubs (if it will happen) are enjoyable and have atleast some emotion when speaking in them, I would watch it. I'd still watch it if they had crappy dubs but I'd be pissed off in a way.

And they better make the characters speak right! As in 'speak right' I mean, with the right tone, accent, etc.

i just hope they at least make Chad sounds like a mexican or cuban.... and better hope Ichigo don't sound like a brat.
Yeah I hope Chad sounds Mexican or something like that. Same applies to all the other chars. And they better not be winey (sp?). *shivers*
Oh, no offense to anyone, but not all American accents please. Just something that would fit the character.

chakra25
03-09-2006, 04:09 PM
I see it as a good and bad news. It's good because Kubo Tite gets more reward for his hard work. The man needs to get paid which helps keep Bleach running awesome.

It's bad because we all know the fate of dubbed anime. Most animes get thrashed by poor voice acting and editing. There are some decent ones out there, but we can only pray right now. Plus, I can tell that people will be bleeding invisible blood in Bleach (dubbed). :D All that blood is gonna get edited out. For Christ Sake, they even took out the 'innocent' blood (Nose Bleed) in Naruto, which was only used as humor. I can imagine what they'll do to blood that arises from fighting.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be plenty of places where we can dl Bleach. Naruto is licensed and there are tons of places to dl that. I guess that depends on how many episodes was licensed. I believe Naruto has 1-50 licensed.

tyson1
03-09-2006, 04:14 PM
Guys, this is most likely a false rumor ya know. Everyone else who talks about it, like Lunar anime, says that there are quite a few reasons its not true. Bleach Protal mentioned some of them this morning to.

-Anime Suki still offers it
-Viz Media hasn't announced it in over a month
-the source the news is coming from is unreliable

Other stuff to, but don't count your chickens before they hatch. An stop thinking retarded, Bleach would NEVER EVER make it to Toonami, on your American channels. Thats for younger kid-ish looking shows. I know you'll all say "what about Naruto?" well, Naruto isn't as brutle, and involves 12 year olds as the main characters. Bleach is 15 and up, and has WAY to much blood and violence. It would show on Adult Swim WHEN it is licensed, cause it will be eventually, its to popular not to license.

_Ink
03-09-2006, 04:15 PM
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22257

read this and weep...

KenpachiBankai
03-09-2006, 05:06 PM
when they started ****in up w/ naruto i only didnt suicide bcuz of bleach, but i clearly remember what i said in other forum: "if theyll do it w/ bleach, ill really suicide"

guess ill do it *jumps from 96th floor*

Shinji
03-09-2006, 05:11 PM
Okay, but that don't bother me, I'll still download it. No CN is gonna stop me!

asukasun
03-09-2006, 05:13 PM
I doupt that this is right ... there are to many reason why I shouldn´t believe this news ... as long as there aren´t any offical announces I won´t believe (even if Anime news network wrote this news)

yunnie
03-09-2006, 05:44 PM
assuming that the news is true:
they messed up alrdy....'soul reaper' or whatever....ITS DEATH GOD if ya wanna be accurate :P.But there are some good anime with good dubs.Actually i watched dubed before sub :D.So we can expect whoever edits this know that it is a great show and they need to put in the time and effort.
Of course assuming that animenetwork is reliable...

Nomadic Dragon
03-09-2006, 05:59 PM
Ok you guys need to give this a rest..what devildude posted was the post was a link to the article, the ONLY article I might add, that says the Bleach is licensed. Animesuki still carries in and also VIZ on their site has nothing about the anime being license and you would think that that's something they would put on their site. VIZ does own the rights to the Bleach manga but as far as I can tell that's it.

BeeCrest
03-09-2006, 08:51 PM
I dont really care if the dubs are good or not since I'm not even going to watch it.

Same here.

The_Supervisor
03-09-2006, 08:59 PM
Dubbing Bleach means messing it up no matter what, I'd never watch something like that

Chobi
03-09-2006, 09:05 PM
when u guys say this it sounds like u rather have a good english dub rather then subs...

but i dont care if its licensed, i keep on dl'ing anyway...

Byakuya7
03-09-2006, 09:16 PM
Dubbing Bleach means messing it up no matter what, I'd never watch something like that

Why? How do you know it's not going to be sucessful? Don't judge the success of a licensed anime based on the failures of other dubs such as one piece by 4Kids. I'm not saying that you are, I'm just saying to give it a chance, there is a strong possibility that it could turn out to be very well done.

SLVR
03-09-2006, 09:26 PM
O man. O well. I was hoping Geneon would get it

Marke
03-10-2006, 12:38 AM
OF course ill still download.. ^^

Mazral
03-10-2006, 01:26 AM
I don't care whether it's liscensed or not..I'm still going to download it.
We all knew it was going to happen sooner or later. As long as I can still get it weekly from Dattebayo, I could care less.
--
Theres a chance the dub could be good..personally, I think the FMA dub was done quite well, along with the Cowboy Bebop dub. Let's hope it turns out like those :p

The voice I'm most worried about is Orihime's. I hope she doesn't get an annoying voice like Sakura's in the Naruto dub. I'm also a little concerned for Ichigo's voice..i love his voice actor :D, and I feel like they're either going to give him a really really deep voice or a high pitched kid-ish one. *sighs*

xyouxarexuglyx2
03-10-2006, 02:06 AM
Micheal Jackson will play Ichigo and Kenpachi
Hitsugaya will be played by Nick Cannon

Ikuto
03-10-2006, 03:28 AM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!

i have waited for this moment for a while and its here...i hope its toonami...its hard constantly stayin up for adult swim...i once went about 2 months stayin up every night...i haven't slept normal since and i am completely serious about that

Kazuya
03-10-2006, 03:33 AM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!
i have waited for this moment for a while and its here...i hope its toonami...its hard constantly stayin up for adult swim...i once went about 2 months stayin up every night...i haven't slept normal since and i am completely serious about that
Yeah i havent slept normal ...too lets pray and hope for a good end.

MazdaRxEight
03-10-2006, 04:31 AM
id still download it, it would be like naruto

trunkster
03-10-2006, 04:47 AM
I hope that Bleach will become the first anime to air during prime time on a major network.

....

Oh right I live in America, that will never happen. Really it doesn't matter to me since I won't be watching a dub and the subs will probably be based on what viz has done with the manga.

But I'm sure once the Naruto craze goes down a bit in the states that Bleach is Viz's secret weapon.

AznPoi
03-10-2006, 04:55 AM
they canceled toonami in the weekdays for like 3years now. I miss toonami. I don't wanna watch it like at 8 at night on a Saturday.

Kooy
03-10-2006, 05:17 AM
hmm i dunno why your guys are getting exaggerated because even if Bleach is liscensed i doubt that dattebayo,Bleach society,lunar, or Hellfansubs would stop subbing. I mean come on naruto is liscensed but we still get naruto don't we? i would like to suggest if bleach does happen to get liscensed, we should give out a shout to the subbers.

Oh yeah my opinion is that the guy who played mustang is FMA should play Ishida jsut because it would sound pretty right for the character, but my opinion :D

Tanya
03-10-2006, 07:40 AM
Though the idea of Bleach getting licensed isn't that great, I'd still watch it because I'm curious at how it's going to turn out.
i have waited for this moment for a while and its here...i hope its toonami...its hard constantly stayin up for adult swim...i once went about 2 months stayin up every night...i haven't slept normal since and i am completely serious about that
What's wrong with sleeping at 3am every saturday? =]
Oh yeah my opinion is that the guy who played mustang is FMA should play Ishida jsut because it would sound pretty right for the character, but my opinion
Ahhhh, I think that would sound quite awkward. A 15 year old guy with an amazingly deep voice?

asukasun
03-10-2006, 11:55 AM
why do you all talk like it´s offical that Bleach is liscenced? It´s until now still a rumor! Animeondvd wrote a news about that but they are still not sure if it´s right or not (because if they would be sure they would have wrote Bleach onto their liscenced list!!!!) and Animesuki still have bleach for download... Take it easy guys!

Ryoko
03-11-2006, 03:55 AM
i think sakuras voice in naruto is nice and i really like hinatas voice as well ...sakuras voice isnt all that annoying she just yells alot thats all.. back to subject. umm i cant wait to hear it in my native language so i dont have to read and also i cant wait for box sets to start commin out. Im really big on buying full box sets only. and any anime i like after ive seen it i buy it. Theres just something about better quality and a big screen that i like. I do worry about viz doing it cuz they welll....suck at it One Peice was chewed all to hell and back through editing in both translations and covering up things naruto is like a second attempt and isnt as bad... if they get bleach i think they will do around sub-par. its gonna take a conglomerate(sp?) studio. Someone with alot of man power and voice actors. Hopefully it will be like Elfen Lied and be 100% pure in content and have a good cast and translations. Theres alot of English Voice actors that we would like to see be our favorite chars in alot of different animes weve seen.

Aruko
03-11-2006, 04:18 AM
Oh my ****ing gosh...You people don't get it. No matter what anime site says it, no matter how many forums are told different, no matter how many ****ing times you check the Viz website, IT'S NOT LICENSED! The only thing licensed is the manga, and that's not a big woop-de-doo for the anime. Stop posting these rumours...

Byakuya7
03-11-2006, 04:54 AM
yes, this is merely a rumor, the bleach anime hasnt been licensed as far as we know. People just like to spread rumors that arent the least bit true, based on a source that doesnt seem to be reliable in the first place.

Mazral
03-11-2006, 01:33 PM
Well, in a recent anime maganize I recieved, it says that Bleach will appear in America within the next 3 years. Sounds about right to me.

Aruko
03-11-2006, 02:50 PM
What magazine? And did they say if that was fact, or personal opinion?

Mazral
03-11-2006, 03:09 PM
Anime Insider, Issue 31. And they didn't exactly state whether it was fact or opinion. It was under "The 10 greatest animes still unlicensed for American audiences". Bleach was number 1, and under a summary of the show it said it would be coming to America in 3 years. However, I'm not sure if the magazine is a reliable source or not.

fettel
03-11-2006, 05:31 PM
well, there is no doubt bleach will come to america eventually. and hopefully, when it does, either Viz or Geneon get it. are there any more decent dub companies? then hope that the naruto dub was a one time thing and bleach ends up completely different. besides that, getting the dub means eventually america would get the games. and then we wouldnt have to order everything to play the jap games and then the games themselves(not that this is the worst option. depending on the american dub, this may be the best way to go about things. the naruto games so far are lacking cuz it is a little too early in the show to bring out games. that limits characters and scenarios and things). dont get me wrong though. i would seriously prefer that america leaves bleach alone, but that wont happen. i might watch a few dubbed bleach episodes if it does get licensed, but i wouldnt abandon the subs that are so much better. its better than paying 20 bucks a pop for a DVD that has maybe 3 episodes. thats over 20 DVD right now for the subbed version alone.
but, if the manga is licensed, and the anime being based on the manga, wouldnt this cause problems? no wait. im thinkin wrong. if Viz decided to stop fansubbers from doing the manga scanlations, then it would not directly impact the anime, as japan would still be gettin it(why couldnt i be born there?) and the anime would still be goin.

...its kinda interesting to see how people react to hearing that bleach might be licensed. just goes to show that bleach ROCKS!

and, uh, ryoko, 4kids did one piece. which explains alot really. kooy, i really think the only reason we still get naruto subs is because the subs are at 175 and the licensed dubs are around 50 or so. Viz might not see the subs as a threat or anything right now because they are extremely far from the dubbed episodes. Dragon8, why dont you just tape adult swim and toonami? with school and life and everything else, stayin up til like 2-3 in the morning aint good. makes things easier cuz then during downtimes when theres nothin good on tv, you could start the tape and watch anime.

Undying
03-11-2006, 09:06 PM
Just a note:
i really think the only reason we still get naruto subs is because the subs are at 175 and the licensed dubs are around 50 or so
The dub is somewhere at 30 or so ;). And the only reason DB is still giving us Naruto is because they don't give a damn (which is good ;))

Other than that, I SO toatally agree with that post :).

K.Ogawa
03-13-2006, 11:56 AM
some one said before that GTO had good dubbing. I agree... So did, Cowboy bebop, Princes Mononoke, Grave of the Firelflies, and a few others.

As for the licensing... mleh. not diggin it

derangedwithoutglasses
03-13-2006, 10:20 PM
Dear lord no. This probably wont affect me at all. In england there is but nil anime showing on any channel, except for toonami but it has regressed and we no longer have an 'adult swim'. It probably never make it over toEngland then. sniff. I myself after hearing all the great music from the show, opening and ending (i mean, shaman king in japan had really great music especially the opening but in the dub, it was all changed and the english beginning song was just embarassing) and been sensitised to the excellent voice acting of it in its original japanese can't stand to think what it would be like to watch the show being botched by corporate subbing (think the dragonball movies. quite scary). I think ill just keep on downloading.
:musak:

Cheryl
03-14-2006, 01:09 AM
I'm so afraid they will destroy the anime. They'd better not mess it all up..

LoneIgadzra
03-15-2006, 06:52 AM
So it's not actually licensed, but I have some thoughts on that eventuality anyway:

First, I can't imagine it being on anything besides Adult Swim... lord knows AS has far sillier content, e.g. Inuyasha. Plus it wouldn't be edited too bad. (Then again, AS might edit more than I'm aware...)

I doubt the dub would be terrible because it's a pretty high-profile anime, but I'd be seriously surprised if it were great. The only good dub of made-for-TV anime I've ever seen is Cowboy Bebop* (I recently watched a bunch of FMA on DVD, comparing sub vs. dub and I'm confident in my belief that even that dub is garbage), and obviously you can't really do Bleach in the same way. Steve Blum might work for Ichigo. I can't remember the last time I heard a decent female voice in dubbed anime though (Faye Valentine being the sole exception), and Rukia needs a great voice.

Orihime will probably be incredibly annoying, even if the rest of the dub is great.

* Actually, I prefer the dub Inuyasha. The goofy dub matches the stupidity of the show for +10 to hilarity, while the original Japanese just seems mediocre.

Sarteck
03-15-2006, 07:14 AM
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22257

read this and weep...

I don't know, man, that still seems like rumour, to me. How long does it usually take for liscensing rumours to be confirmed true, anyway? I'm rather new to this.

Megan
03-15-2006, 08:02 AM
I'm subscribed to an anime magazine called Anime Insider (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/anime.cfm) and they have an article for their newest issue (April, 2006 Issue #31) about the top 10 greatest anime still unlicensed for American audiences (in their opinion). They listed Bleach as the number one choice which couldn't make it licensed as the other sources said before in this thread.
(Quoted from my magazine, Anime Insider, page 11)
"
What is it: Adapted from a highly popular manga series by Tite Kubo, this Shonen Jump-bred action show shows us just how cool ghostbusting really is through the story of Kurosaki Ichigo, a young man called on his spirit-hunting quest by Rukia, a young female death god. When it comes to kids with gigantic swords battling grotesque demos, there's nothing cooler than this still-running 70-episode epic.
Why we want it: Ichigo's quests in the spirit world are pulled off so compellingly that it's easy to see why Bleach is so popular in Japan- heck, it even inspired its own rock musical! The manga is already a hit for Viz.
When it will come: Three years. Believe us, no anime company is unaware of Bleach's sucess in Japan- but that kind of success means some highly competitive bidding.
"
Last point strongly says that it is not licensed.

(EDIT: Marzal, I hope I redefined your point for you. It seems credible enough for me to believe; it's printed to say the least.)

db
03-15-2006, 09:06 PM
http://animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=8560

Now, who still doesnt believe Bleach isnt licensed yet?

Byakuya7
03-15-2006, 09:37 PM
hmm interesting, I guess it has been confirmed now that it is licensed.

Sarteck
03-15-2006, 09:40 PM
http://animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=8560

Now, who still doesnt believe Bleach isnt licensed yet?
From that site? Meh. I still say that it's only a strong "maybe." I still can't find where Viz supposedly "officially" announced it, anywhere.

Kabane
03-15-2006, 09:40 PM
Take that all non believers! *punch*

darkangel
03-15-2006, 09:48 PM
I'm actually happy that this anime was licenced. Now I can have the Bleach anime in my clutches in DVD format.

Megan
03-15-2006, 09:50 PM
I'm actually happy that this anime was licenced. Now I can have the Bleach anime in my clutches in DVD format.
-nods-

My magazine is so outdated now, I guess.

MVIK
03-15-2006, 09:54 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........ so does this mean we cant dl them anymore?

db
03-15-2006, 09:55 PM
From that site? Meh. I still say that it's only a strong "maybe." I still can't find where Viz supposedly "officially" announced it, anywhere.

if you read the news on ANN, it says they will announce it "Shortly." Who knows when it will be announced from Viz but ANN is a very good source and also Bleach will be inevitably be licensed anyway.

Boko
03-15-2006, 09:57 PM
Who cares if it is licensed! There will still be sites that will host it!

Sarteck
03-15-2006, 10:01 PM
if you read the news on ANN, it says they will announce it "Shortly." Who knows when it will be announced from Viz but ANN is a very good source and also Bleach will be inevitably be licensed anyway.
Well, I'll have to take your word on that, seeing as how I don't know much about liscensing and schtuff.

This poses a question, though... I have been told that downloading the episodes as of right now was not illegal, since it was not liscensed. Now that it IS liscensed, does that mean that it is going to be illegal?

[Assuming, for the moment, that ANN is correct.]

Megan
03-15-2006, 10:07 PM
Well, I'll have to take your word on that, seeing as how I don't know much about liscensing and schtuff.
This poses a question, though... I have been told that downloading the episodes as of right now was not illegal, since it was not liscensed. Now that it IS liscensed, does that mean that it is going to be illegal?
[Assuming, for the moment, that ANN is correct.]
Yep. I know with Gundam SEED DESTINY, Bandai started tracking down the subbers and telling them to stop offering the episodes for download. I know one group shut down from it but licensing only stops some and most keep downloading.

Sarteck
03-15-2006, 10:25 PM
Yep. I know with Gundam SEED DESTINY, Bandai started tracking down the subbers and telling them to stop offering the episodes for download. I know one group shut down from it but licensing only stops some and most keep downloading.
Well.... Poo. That sucks.

On the bright side, though, my girlfriend won't watch subbed anime (she hates having to read while watching anything), so at least we can get the dubbed. This is another anime I think she'll really like (I just got her into anime about a year ago).

Ichigo1234
03-16-2006, 01:18 AM
Bleach might go on Adult Swim since it might be too violent for Toonami

Megan
03-16-2006, 01:31 AM
Bleach might go on Adult Swim since it might be too violent for Toonami
Always a good thing because they, of course, cut out less.

If only Adult Swim could come on a little bit earlier though :P

RukiaYuza
03-16-2006, 01:42 AM
Hello! :)
Bleach needs to come on Adult Swim. I believe that Bleach will be taken care of there. Fullmetal Alchemist, Samurai Champloo, Inuyasha, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, and Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex have all been taken care of in that time period. Bleach needs to be there and not Toonami.

Sarteck
03-16-2006, 01:54 AM
Feh. Forget both Toonami AND [adult swim]... I'd much rather just get the uncut DVDs. Hell, [adult swim] isn't even showing the ending of Neon Genisis Evangelion because of the TV-14 bit. X|

Kabane
03-16-2006, 02:07 AM
Vice Pres of CC said that Bleach was for more of a "teen audiece" therefore its mostlikely going to be on Adult Swim.

fettel
03-16-2006, 02:50 AM
wait a minute, adult swim aint showing the ending to NGE? wtf?! what is wrong with the ending? sure, that one thing happens and asuka gets , well, chewed up. and then every human turns into a little drop of whatever. ghost in a shell recently showed people getting their heads chopped off. seriously, even if most of the people in that show are prosthetic, ghost in a shell has way more bloody scenes. eh, who cares. i already saw the ending. psh.

if bleach doesnt get placed into adult swim, then it might not be worth watching. it would get VA suited for making it sound 'kiddy', instead of the usual maturity it has. i mean, how the heck are they gonna handle the SS arc? every few episodes has one person bleeding geysers! and, soul reaper...ugh. death god sounds way better. hopefully, Viz wont follow their manga translation and use 'soul cutter' in the dub. oh well. soon we get the games, and then the movies( on that note, is the OVA about that baishin guy or whatever who came to the real world and sucked half of ichigo's reiastu subbed?). and then crappy toys created by companies that dont give a **** about making quality stuff as long as they get money. heres hopin for an AS spot at least!

i guess as long as it doesnt follow naruto, i wont have to research how to create deadly diseases at home that can be spread easily... i mean, naruto could have been a few times better if it recieved adult swim treatment instead. i know a good amount of people like the dub, but personally, just stop showin naruto. the VA ruined it. dont get me wrong though. gaara, sasuke, kakashi, zaraki, that guy-chick that was with zaraki, and thats it, actually sounded decent. everyone else is a farcry from being okay. while naruto was originally the annoying brat in the japanese version, the VA in the dub makes even his voice shattering. i can handle him in the sub, even his dattebayo statements every now and then. 'believe it' makes me want to sell my soul so i can reach through the tv and kill the VA. gai's VA completely blew it. i mean, WTF?! the best thing they could do now is make all the other important characters have godly voices that fit. otherwise, making it through the Chuunin exam where Gai talks for like 3 episodes is gonna be an impossibiliy even under twenty different drugs. i know this isnt the topic, or the board to rant about naruto, but this was one great anime that was maimed, raped, and slaughtered after being licensed. i aint religious, at all, partly cuz ive been to hell, but, i am seriously praying bleach gets VA that actually fit the character's personality. it deserves that much for being a kick*** anime! dont stop DB! for the love of god and everything right!

Ichigo_bleach123
03-16-2006, 03:37 AM
all I know that it is cring timeT_T

RukiaYuza
03-16-2006, 04:22 AM
Hello! :)
I am going to take a wait and see outlook. I am not going to say that the dub is going to be bad until I hear it with my own ears. I don't believe that Bleach can be put on Toonami. It just would not fit.
I feel that the thing that we should do is to wait until it happens. However we should do what we can to try to get The Powers That Be to make the right choice and put Bleach on Adult Swim. Although I am not sure if there is anything we can do. Anyway I am going to hold on to the hope that Bleach will get a good translation, voice cast, and a nice DVD release.

trunkster
03-16-2006, 04:43 AM
“It is a great privilege to be bringing such an outstanding property to so many parts of the world,” said John Easum, executive vice president, VIZ Media. “BLEACH is one of the most powerful and successful new series coming out of Japan, and it has already established a very large fan base in the U.S., due to the enormously successful manga, published by VIZ Media under our SHONEN JUMP imprint."

Sure.. you know it became popular mainly because of fan subbing. Bastards.

dragoneyes001
03-16-2006, 04:54 AM
Well, I'll have to take your word on that, seeing as how I don't know much about liscensing and schtuff.
This poses a question, though... I have been told that downloading the episodes as of right now was not illegal, since it was not liscensed. Now that it IS liscensed, does that mean that it is going to be illegal?
[Assuming, for the moment, that ANN is correct.]

actually it depends on country of origin and country of receipt!

a European (or Asian or even Australian) country can upload american licenced product onto the internet its only illegal for Americans bound by US copyright laws to download it!

being Canadian myself US copyrights dont supercede Canadian laws on internet sharing so whats illegal to download for an american I can download legally!

what makes a difference is what country the host sites are based in.

when a file is illegal to DL in your country its actualy your responsability to not DL it the host has to abide by the laws of its country or lack there of.

Sarteck
03-16-2006, 04:54 AM
“It is a great privilege to be bringing such an outstanding property to so many parts of the world,” said John Easum, executive vice president, VIZ Media. “BLEACH is one of the most powerful and successful new series coming out of Japan, and it has already established a very large fan base in the U.S., due to the enormously successful manga, published by VIZ Media under our SHONEN JUMP imprint."

Sure.. you know it became popular mainly because of fan subbing. Bastards.
Makes you think, though... Perhaps many liscensing companies do appreciate fan-subbing, so that they can get a feel for what will be a hit with us, yah?

db
03-16-2006, 05:17 AM
Well, I'll have to take your word on that, seeing as how I don't know much about liscensing and schtuff.
This poses a question, though... I have been told that downloading the episodes as of right now was not illegal, since it was not liscensed. Now that it IS liscensed, does that mean that it is going to be illegal?
[Assuming, for the moment, that ANN is correct.]

Well VIZ Already announce their licenseship with Bleach :p. Yes its illegal to d/l anime that is licensed whereever you at. This doesnt stop all fansubbers from fansubbing it though. Companies dont aim at the watchers, they obviously aim at fansubbers to stop them from subbing it so we cant watch it :p.

Sarteck
03-16-2006, 05:28 AM
Well VIZ Already announce their licenseship with Bleach :p. Yes its illegal to d/l anime that is licensed whereever you at. This doesnt stop all fansubbers from fansubbing it though. Companies dont aim at the watchers, they obviously aim at fansubbers to stop them from subbing it so we cant watch it :p.
Ah, arigato, for this response and for the other one. ^_^

[Hmmm... Does saying "arigato" make me sound like some clueless fanboy?]

Chrono Detector
03-16-2006, 05:33 AM
Geez, just because the American companies licensed it doesn't mean they own the whole show. Kuto and his other japanese crew does. Morons, I swear. Who gives a shit what they think, and sorry I had to vent. I think its really lame how they license it, they think they own the whole show.

db
03-16-2006, 05:53 AM
Did they really say they own the show? All I remember was they own the rights to make production on the selected countries for dubbing/translation thats it :p.

Chrono Detector
03-16-2006, 05:57 AM
Okay, forgive me. Guess I was wrong. I doubt it that its going to stop fansubs from subbing it anyway.

WizKid77
03-16-2006, 06:39 AM
Okay, forgive me. Guess I was wrong. I doubt it that its going to stop fansubs from subbing it anyway.
Oh it won't. DB still does Naruto and I guarantee that won't stop them from subbing Bleach. (thank god) Anyway I'm pissed they licensed it, but by how popular Bleach has become of coarse it was bound to happen. I mean it is the 2nd highest most downloaded anime next to Naruto. Well the only thing we can do is hope they get good voice actors. At least it's Viz, they're good at that. Ah well...

Yamazaki Kazushige
03-16-2006, 09:45 AM
If anybody is english dubbing it i hope its not 4kids....

If they think they can stop me from watching bleach then there dead wrong. I don't need subbing to watch it and a lot of ppl don't cuz they know japanese from either teaching themselves, learning in classes, or knowing it fluently.and as long there are ppl like that they will keep subbing bleach no matter what. What is viz going to do? Look us up one by one and arrest us?

3HeadedMonkey
03-16-2006, 09:53 AM
Dangit. Lunar dropped Bleach. :(

Hollow_Man_ct
03-16-2006, 10:01 AM
how about DB and hell-Fansubs? have they too dropped?

3HeadedMonkey
03-16-2006, 10:04 AM
I dont think so. Lunar makes it a rule of theirs not to sub licensed animes, so once one gets licensed, they stop subbing it. I dont know about DB or Hell-Subs tho, but i dont think they will.

Yamazaki Kazushige
03-16-2006, 10:04 AM
please don't tell me they dropped or i will be forced to wait 4 weeks for new ones at my local video store......

Dark Fire
03-16-2006, 10:11 AM
well I can already feel the chopping block falling as soon as bleach hits the US it's going to be tore up

Yamazaki Kazushige
03-16-2006, 10:16 AM
yes, Ichigo gets cut and thiers no blood.
Ichigo;s Zanpakuto is going to be green
Everyones zanpakuto is going to be green
There is no fight scene
I really hate 4kids....

Hollow_Man_ct
03-16-2006, 10:41 AM
yeah, they'll robably also have to make surgery to Orihime to lessen the size of her boobs...

Yamazaki Kazushige
03-16-2006, 10:44 AM
hehe No they will leave that as it is but they will take out the bath scene with Ichigo and Yoruichi.

*sobs*

Dark Fire
03-16-2006, 10:51 AM
I dont no but if the screw up the anime I'm goin to kill some one

choking
03-16-2006, 10:55 AM
VIZ MEDIA NAMED MASTER LICENSOR FOR
HIT JAPANESE ACTION MANGA SHONEN JUMP’s BLEACH

TV Tokyo Corporation And Shueisha Inc. Appoints VIZ Media To Represent Broadcast, Home Video And Merchandising Rights In The Americas, Europe And Oceania For SHONEN JUMP’s BLEACH!

San Francisco, CA, March 15, 2006 – VIZ Media, LLC (VIZ Media), one of the entertainment industry's most innovative and comprehensive publishing, animation and licensing companies, announced today that it has secured from worldwide licensors, TV TOKYO Corporation and Shueisha Inc., the television, home video and merchandising rights to SHONEN JUMP’S BLEACH in the Americas, Europe and Oceania. The appointment of VIZ Media as Master Licensor was facilitated by TV TOKYO Medianet, the licensing arm of TV TOKYO.

VIZ Media plans to introduce a dynamic rollout strategy that will leverage the strong manga (graphic novels) and entertainment brands into a broad licensing and marketing program. BLEACH’s television broadcast partner and key licensing partners will be determined shortly.

“It is a great privilege to be bringing such an outstanding property to so many parts of the world,” said John Easum, executive vice president, VIZ Media. “BLEACH is one of the most powerful and successful new series coming out of Japan, and it has already established a very large fan base in the U.S., due to the enormously successful manga, published by VIZ Media under our SHONEN JUMP imprint. Working together with VIZ Media B.V. in Europe, we look forward to making Bleach a global success.”

BLEACH is the story of an average 15-year old, Ichigo Kurosaki, who never asked for the ability to see ghosts--he was born with the gift. When his family is attacked by a Hollow – a malevolent lost soul – Ichigo becomes a Soul Reaper, dedicating his life to protecting the innocent and helping the tortured spirits find peace.

BLEACH is author Tite Kubo’s second title and it has spawned 21 volumes to-date that have sold over 28 million copies in Japan. BLEACH has already been translated into more than seven languages and has achieved immense success in Japan not only as a manga and TV title, but also in the realm of licensed categories such as toys, trading card games and video games.

About VIZ Media, LLC

Headquartered in San Francisco, CA, VIZ Media, LLC (VIZ Media), is one of the most comprehensive and innovative companies in the field of manga publishing, animation and entertainment licensing of Japanese content. Owned by three of Japan’s largest creators and licensors of manga and animation, Shueisha Inc., Shogakukan Inc., and Shogakukan Production Co., Ltd. (ShoPro Japan), VIZ Media is a leader in the publishing and distribution of Japanese manga for English speaking audiences in North America and a global licensor of Japanese manga and animation. The company offers an integrated product line including, magazines such as SHONEN JUMP and SHOJO BEAT, graphic novels, videos, DVDs, audio soundtracks and develops and markets animated entertainment from initial production, television placement and distribution, to merchandise licensing and promotions for audiences and consumers of all ages.
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Lunar: Dropped
Bleach-Society: Still subbing
Dattebayo: Still subbing
Hell-fansubs: Dropped

Yamazaki Kazushige
03-16-2006, 10:56 AM
Kill 4kids! They Ruined One Piece And Now Bleach!

Dark Fire
03-16-2006, 11:07 AM
that it VIZ is getting the pencil to the eye

Alanna15
03-16-2006, 11:10 AM
I just have to hope that Dattebayo keeps on subbing... (dreads what a dubbed Bleach would sound like)
But I guess I can't judge it yet...

Chrono Detector
03-16-2006, 11:23 AM
I don't see DB is going to stop subbing Bleach. Isn't Naruto licensed and yet DB is still subbing it? So don't worry.

See, like I said, if somebody licenses an anime, it screws everything up. And I'm not happy too.

Eidolon
03-16-2006, 11:41 AM
I don't think DB will stop subbing, like up there ^^ they still sub Naruto, so they most likely will keep subbing Bleach, I sure hope so, kinda sucks Lunar is out of the loop now, they did a great job subbing Bleach!, DB would be the next best, and now the best all together because its the only place I can get it! lol, and if that goes down.. there's always massive torrent sites around, probably find it on those.

Still sucks Bleach is licensed.... waaah :(

RukiaYuza
03-16-2006, 11:57 AM
Hello! :)
I know that with Bleach being licensed things are going to change. However it may not be a bad thing in the end. I believe that we should at least keep an open mind about this. I feel that we should at least give the people at VIZ a chance. I think that they will handle this with care. I mean they have done a good job with Inuyasha. The story of Inuyasha has a pretty good amount of action and there is blood in that show. The concepts of Inuyasha while different than Bleach have at least the angle of swords that can be connected. The names of swords of Inuyasha have not been changed so more than likely they will keep the Zanpaku-to's names complete. Inuyasha has some rather unique names like Bleach has. If Inuyasha can have a guy like Miroku who is not changed then I am sure that the Kon among others will be fine too. I also feel that Bleach will be on Adult Swim since very soon Fullmetal Alchemist and even Inuyasha will be over. So try to keep an open mind.

ultimate
03-16-2006, 12:42 PM
bleach being licensed was eventually going to happen but i dont think its much to worry or care about... there are some good dubbed anime like trigun although subbed anime are usually better... btw i hear that lunar and hell fansubs have dropped bleach but dattebayo and bleach society continue subbing bleach so thats good to hear

jovine
03-16-2006, 01:14 PM
Holy cow... I can't imagine Renji or Yachiru speaking in English...i'm gonna get wierd out by the change in dubbing...:eek13: Please support subbed Bleach if subbed Bleach sounds better Support the original Bleach seiyuus!

~YuKi-sAn~
03-16-2006, 01:36 PM
if bleach had been licensed.. then where can we dl it?
does any1 know? n will it still b out on every wed?

sherenetms
03-16-2006, 02:46 PM
Urghhh!!!!!!!!! This sucks if i cant dwload it!!!! Anyway, i still prefer subbed versions......i have seen many dubbed animes and they all sucked big time no matter how good the voice actors are.......Whatever it is, i just hope they dont screw anything up,......>starts praying that everything goes well for bleach<

Calenatarion
03-16-2006, 03:17 PM
so I don't get this. Will Bleach stop airing in Japanese and thus the subs? Or will there be 2? One in Japanese and one in English?

chakra25
03-16-2006, 03:48 PM
No... the licensing does not affect the Bleach in Japan; it will continue to air. My only fear is that the subbing will stop. The legal implication (copyright) may force the sub groups to stop.

Lunar have stopped subbing. :( They removed all their torrents already.

I'm glad DB is still continuing to sub Bleach. They're my Bleach hero right now. So thanks DB!

Calenatarion
03-16-2006, 04:03 PM
Hmm.. Well TV Nihon did sub a number of Transformers series like I said. So I don't think (and hope) it will be a big problem. And yes, I know, Hasbro and Wiz are different companies.

Aerys
03-16-2006, 04:47 PM
This is sad news, I just pray that any subbing group continue to do Bleach.

Is the license for North America only? cause if its yes then I have no issues downloading it since I'm from the Philippines.

Beetlejuice
03-16-2006, 06:35 PM
So where can i still download subbed bleach episodes, +71??

Yamazaki Kazushige
03-16-2006, 06:47 PM
You can get it at animesuki.com I think.

Beetlejuice
03-16-2006, 06:59 PM
you can't since its licensed

Sarteck
03-16-2006, 07:09 PM
A lot of you seem to think that Viz liscencing Bleach is a bad thing... But think of how many more people are now going to be able to watch BLeach, those who can't now (perhaps due to dial-up Internet connection, heh heh). :D

MoonCannon
03-16-2006, 08:09 PM
Oh well, here goes another Naruto. I guess it's time to switch to manga like I did with Naruto with it got licensed.

Heh, losers just license anime for their money business and crap. I swear, US can't ever think of their own anime/cartoon for money, they have to license other material to make money. It obviously shows that they are a bunch of dogs. :shithappe

I really can't wait for those licensing losers to burn in hell[/overreacting]
Bye bye anime, Hello Manga!

Dark Fire
03-16-2006, 08:14 PM
A lot of you seem to think that Viz liscencing Bleach is a bad thing... But think of how many more people are now going to be able to watch BLeach, those who can't now (perhaps due to dial-up Internet connection, heh heh). :D

yes but I am a witness to a reacuring problem -translation slauterization-
there are going to butcher it horribly

Zanga
03-16-2006, 09:14 PM
It's going to be on Adult swim, so I wouldn't say it'll be butchered...

Captain BenZ
03-16-2006, 09:42 PM
Let's just hope it's on Adult Swim, because if it is, they'll keep the storyline straightforward, not cut or edit any scenes, and not change things around unlike some certain shows already.

AznPoi
03-16-2006, 09:48 PM
Let's just forget about it being on cartoon network. There's already 70 episodes of Bleach. Do you really want to watch it again once every week for some crappy english dubbing one episode per week?

Shinji
03-16-2006, 09:48 PM
This is sad news, I just pray that any subbing group continue to do Bleach.
Is the license for North America only? cause if its yes then I have no issues downloading it since I'm from the Philippines.
After looking it up, here's who keeps subbing, who drops Bleach.
Lunar: Dropped
Bleach-Society: Still subbing
Dattebayo: Still subbing
Hell-fansubs: Dropped Don't worry!

Zanga
03-16-2006, 09:56 PM
Viz isn't so bad people. In Naruto, they changed Naruto's seductive no jutsu(english manga) to Sexy no Jutsu(anime english). They didn't add any smoke either. Viz is doing a great job with Naruto, so expect the same for Bleach :)

Calenatarion
03-16-2006, 09:58 PM
Viz isn't so bad people. In Naruto, they changed Naruto's seductive no jutsu(english manga) to Sexy no Jutsu(anime english). They didn't add any smoke either. Viz is doing a great job with Naruto, so expect the same for Bleach :)

As long they allow fansubbers to sub the episodes, if's fine by me.

PiggyWiggy
03-16-2006, 10:10 PM
:O... They're going to change Death God to 'Soul Reaper'... What the hell?

Manami
03-16-2006, 10:28 PM
I think Bleach would fit better in Adult Swim, so they can leave the episodes pretty unharmed....I was really bummed about Naruto being on Toonami...so much was edited!

RumpskA
03-16-2006, 11:47 PM
It will be horrible with enlgish voices. They're no doubt gonna give Ichimaru a western accent. Retarded retarded retarded. There is only one possible good thing that would come out of this, and that is that they would make American Bleach games, so you don't have to get an imported PS2 or modchip. I'm so mad. I hate my country. Lol... America sucks.

Kabane
03-16-2006, 11:54 PM
i personally think this is all in our head. the version we listen to first, is the version we like better. naturally the more "die hard" bleach fans will have watched the jap version first therefore most of this bleach fans will prefer jap over english. the only thing i'll have the problem is if they make ichigo say "believe it" more than 2 times an episode.

sto67
03-16-2006, 11:57 PM
i guess DB will be my new source -_-"
but honestly most english dubs are horrible. like elfen lied... *shiver* dubs sucked.

Draffut
03-17-2006, 12:32 AM
i personally think this is all in our head. the version we listen to first, is the version we like better. naturally the more "die hard" bleach fans will have watched the jap version first therefore most of this bleach fans will prefer jap over english. the only thing i'll have the problem is if they make ichigo say "believe it" more than 2 times an episode.

Quoted for Truth. wit hthe exception of a coulpe HORRID dubs, people just get used to hearing one voise for soemthing end dont liek it any other way. With the exception of Slayers (Must... kill... amelia..), Every Anime i have seen first in english, i liked better in english, and same with Japanese.

Zanga
03-17-2006, 12:35 AM
Whoever watches Naruto knows that the english voice for Zabuza was much better and befitting of his charcter.

3HeadedMonkey
03-17-2006, 01:34 AM
:O... They're going to change Death God to 'Soul Reaper'... What the hell?

That's how animekeep had it when they subbed Bleach.

RumpskA
03-17-2006, 02:14 AM
I wont be able to take the english voice overs.... if they're as bad as... say.... Princess Mononoke, I'll kill myself. I watched that in English first, and I hated the voices. Japanese is so much better.

RukiaYuza
03-17-2006, 02:50 AM
Hello! :)
I am looking forward to seeing and hearing the English dub. It will be a whole new way of watching Bleach. I am also looking foward to DVDs. I have seen every episode in Japanese and I have found a way to have them on a DVD. But I am looking forward to a professional DVD too. I am really hoping for clean credits of the opening and closing. Maybe they will have interviews with both sets of voice actors. I am sure that the Japanese DVDs of Bleach have extras but I don't have a Japanese DVD player or TV to play them on. So that is one thing I am looking foward to. I am also looking foward to the coverage of Bleach over here. I am sure that Bleach will be given more play over here. I feel that the example that the people who are bringing Bleach over here will follow will more than likely be like Fullmetal Alchemist.
Here is a very good point to make most English anime DVDs still have the Japanese voice track. If you get the DVDs then you can still listen to the Japanese voice actors. I have the two complete seasons of Inuyasha on DVD and the Japanese voice track is still there. Inuyasha is produced by VIZ. I know that for some having the fan sub is more than enough but I rather like the professional version of an anime too. I like the artwork and it is great when there is a box set or an art box.
So one way or another I am keeping an open mind which at this stage is something I think is important. I think as long as there is a group doing fan subs then it will be just fine too. I say we really support the fan subbers who are keeping Bleach with them. I also believe that we should try whatever we can to show our support for Bleach in its English format. For some it will be the first time watching Bleach will be in its English format. So the best thing I feel we should do is see what we can do to make sure that the English Bleach has been done correctly.
I am not sure how much power Kubo Tite has in all of this but I am sure that he still has some say over this situation. I say that we have faith in him. I am sure that he wants to protect Bleach.

RumpskA
03-17-2006, 02:52 AM
I'd be more okay with the licensing except it makes it illegal to watch it without buying it now....

kebinxp
03-17-2006, 03:19 AM
my opinion:
the only thing that i care about bleach being licensed is that great subbers like lunar-anime wont be showing up anymore, but we can still watch it from dattebayo which isnt THAT bad
as for the dubbing, people get so worked up about how there gonna kill the voices and such
who cares? jus dont watch them and ignore it like wut i did with naruto on toonami lolz
as long as some subber like dattebayo still subs like they do with naruto, i don really care

cheesydud
03-17-2006, 03:23 AM
I think Bleach would fit better in Adult Swim, so they can leave the episodes pretty unharmed....I was really bummed about Naruto being on Toonami...so much was edited!

ichimaru.. a western accent?
NOOOO
If that happened the world would end abruptly. :(:eek13:

Apocalypse
03-17-2006, 03:39 AM
Meh... well... it will either be "O.K." or "HORRIBLE". That is the case with pretty much all dubbed anime. I am praying that it gets put on Adult Swim. If it isn't, there is virtually NO HOPE for less editing and decent dubbing. I REALLY hope for this, because if placed anywhere else such as Toonami, I SEVERELY doubt it will be done decently. Toonami used to be good, but they killed it by putting crap in it's schedule (Meguzi), and then they mutilated what remained by putting mostly crappy shows in the little time that it DID happen to go on. If it doesn't go to Adult Swim, I won't even give English dubbed Bleach a glance; heck, I'll go out of my way to avoid it if it ever comes on.

There is only one thing I am glad about. That is the fact that Bleach products will become available in the U.S. Some I've wanted for quite some time... but seeing that Bleach might get licensed (hence the game would get released in English), I refrained from importing the Japanese release.

Halbard
03-17-2006, 05:01 AM
I really hope this works out ok, I cringe at the thought of what Ichigo or any of the other characters would sould like though, and since Lunar doesn't have the subs anymore I can't replace the episodes I had to delete :( anywhere that still has torrents of 27-46, or should I just get the ones from the archives on 'portal?

Draki
03-17-2006, 05:23 AM
Well, at least 4-kids didn't get ahold of Bleach... Not much else could go worse if that happened.

konberry
03-17-2006, 05:44 AM
I really hope nothing much happens then for the subbing and stuff just I prefer jap over english dubbing *reminds me of when people try to dub over korean dramas.... it's sometimes horrible =(*

lvramire
03-17-2006, 06:58 AM
Whoop de Doo!!! People watch mostly from dwnlding it ryt?So How are we affected?



Only Lunar want AWOL, Dattebayo continues.


Dubs suck so bad....?


Don't watch!


P.S. Don't click this linkhttp://www.mindistortion.net/iwantyoursoul/?i_am=Garvin20002000

lvramire
03-17-2006, 06:59 AM
Whoop de Doo!!! People watch mostly from dwnlding it ryt?So How are we affected?
Only Lunar want AWOL, Dattebayo continues.
Dubs suck so bad....?
Don't watch!
P.S. Don't click this linkhttp://www.mindistortion.net/iwantyoursoul/?i_am=Garvin20002000

Capthxc
03-17-2006, 09:08 PM
Whoever watches Naruto knows that the english voice for Zabuza was much better and befitting of his charcter.
Ill agree with that, sadly the voice they gave kakashi doesnt seem to match him what so ever. Ive only caught a few episodes(Mainly the ones with zabuza and haku) in english....im just hoping they didnt murder rock lee or orochimarus voice...

RumpskA
03-17-2006, 10:49 PM
ichimaru.. a western accent?
NOOOO
If that happened the world would end abruptly. :(:eek13:


Oh I'm almost positive they will. Look at how he talks. He slurs words, is kidna slangish and laid back. They're gonna murder him.... horribly



So when anime gets licensed it is illegal to download, yes?

StyleS
03-17-2006, 10:57 PM
I'm still downloading my bleach shit. go to www.bleachaurora.com and you can find all the Bleach direct downloads you want just by giving about 2 minutes to register.

peace *****es

and if they really got English dubs now, I'm gonna torrent download the DVD Rips

The_Supervisor
03-17-2006, 11:06 PM
Just hope Dattebayo'll stick with their subbin so I can go on dl'ing, if not...*dies*

BeeCrest
03-17-2006, 11:47 PM
Just hope Dattebayo'll stick with their subbin so I can go on dl'ing, if not...*dies*

Same here, since my sister (she downloads everything at college since we have dial up) said Lunar took Bleach down.

EdwardFMA
03-17-2006, 11:51 PM
I quote my Signiture on PSPUpdates

FUK YOU SHONEN JUMP
The Emo kids already took FMA now they are going to take Bleach... Go to he|| Shonen Jump!!!

RumpskA
03-18-2006, 01:49 AM
Please, does anyone know it it really is illegal. I've been told, but not by reliable sources



hehe I like the thing about emo kids. Emo sucks.

StyleS
03-18-2006, 02:01 AM
Please, does anyone know it it really is illegal. I've been told, but not by reliable sources



hehe I like the thing about emo kids. Emo sucks.

yes it is. but its also unlikely you will get caught unless you try to sell the epsiodes on DVD

RumpskA
03-18-2006, 03:31 AM
yes it is. but its also unlikely you will get caught unless you try to sell the epsiodes on DVD


Ugh, I'm not one who does illegal stuff... yet I really want my Bleach. I would delete all of them if they had the DVDs available right now, and I'd buy them, but they wont for like a year probably... so there isn't a way to really watch it for that time. Meh... I guess I'll still DL them.. watch em once, get the screencaps to draw, and then delete it.... although it really isn't any less illegal.... I'll just feel better :P

RukiaYuza
03-18-2006, 03:49 AM
Hello! :)
I normally don't even download an episode of a show. I normally wait for them to come out on DVD or at least on TV. However with Bleach I found that I could not stop at just a few episodes. I will keep my episodes that I have downloaded and my episodes that I have been able to put on DVD. They will be my place holders until the official ones come out. I really can not wait to get a copy that will be clean where I can take off the subs. I like to do screen caps but some images that I would make into screen caps have words on them. The quality is not as good either. So that I am looking forward to. In short I am looking forward to the dub. I am sure that the original Japanese voice track will be on it when I want to listen to it. However I am rather interested to hear the new voice actors too. I am really hoping that Bleach gets the same respect that Fullmetal Alchemist, Samurai Champloo, and Inuyasha got. I am not going to worry until I hear the voices. Maybe Bleach will be one of those dubs that leads the way to even better dubs in the future. As to Ichimaru I am hoping that they find someone who has a unique voice because he is such a unique character. In short I am keeping my mind open and I am thinking positive thought.

Hollow_Man_ct
03-18-2006, 07:19 AM
I wonder who will play matsumoto...

But anyways, I just hope that the dubs will not "americanize" the series and cut the blood and violence ( we don't want to see pink blood or zanpaktou's with a cloth on them.. ).

adorkable
03-18-2006, 03:25 PM
Couldn't post earlier since I couldn't get onto Club Bleach but now I can so...

Ok... so this shocked me... couple days (or weeks) or shall I say pages back, we were dicussing if Bleach is liscensed now... no it wasn't... and then the discussion went to if it was dubbed... which I said nada, I wouldn't like it... well I'd prefer it in Japanese.

And then this morning, I woke up... went around on the net then typed in bleachportal.net and wham! It hit me. Bleach is now liscensed.

And I was like... huh?

I seriously wish these voices are good. Please be good. PLEASE. I mean like, I don't want a tough character, like Kenpachi, to have a wuss voice. Or like Ichigo... I don't want his voice to be annoying. I don't want ALL the characters to have and American accent. No. Please no. I mean not the whole lot of them (like Chad - maybe Mexican or Cuban kinda or something?)... and the anime better be the same and not "kiddified". Seriously, don't change an anime just to attract new fans. If they don't like it, tough. Grrr... this dubbing business better be good. *sigh*

sparkle_freeze
03-19-2006, 05:23 AM
Dubbing can nv be good. I don't understand how ppl appreciate dubbed anime. Guess they're too bloody lazy to read subs.. Lunar has stopped subbing Bleach much to my dismay. Damn Dattebayo better not give Bleach up or I'm basically done with Bleach anime forever.

Megan
03-19-2006, 05:46 AM
Dubbing can nv be good. I don't understand how ppl appreciate dubbed anime. Guess they're too bloody lazy to read subs.. Lunar has stopped subbing Bleach much to my dismay. Damn Dattebayo better not give Bleach up or I'm basically done with Bleach anime forever.
I've like dubbed anime and I am not too lazy to watch the subs either.

It really depends on which you watch first. For example, I watched many animes when I was little in, of course, English. I enjoyed them and didn't even know they were actually "anime". Now that I look back, I like the dub and the sub together because I watched both. One was not complete without the other. In some cases, yes, the dubbing can be at its worst. We are all hoping it's not for Bleach.

It's all in the matter of opinion. Don't say "people" because that includes many. You can't speak for them all can you? ;)

adorkable
03-19-2006, 05:59 AM
Probably the answer^.

Of course, when I was little - Pokemon - used to the English.

But now I'm so used to reading the subs (for Bleach) that I can't even imagine Ichigo with an english accent or voice. Something to adapt to - that's life... grr, why is life so hard? *sighs*

Ok, a bit off topic but when I said Pokemon I just remembered a joke:
How do you get 100 Pikachus onto a bus?
Pokemon! (Poke-em-on!) :LOL:

RukiaYuza
03-19-2006, 06:19 AM
Hello! :)
I have two reasons that I normally watch the English track for anime. I have rather bad eyesight and I have to be sitting rather close to the TV to really read the sub titles. After a while the sub title can hurt my eyes. For Bleach I normally watch it on my computer or my little portable DVD player. A few TVs in my home I can watch it on close up. So I like the English version so that I can save my eyes a lot of work. Another reason that I normally watch the English track is that I really love watching the artwork of anime. I like being able to look at all the details in the animation. I am an artist and I can not help but look at anime from an art point of view. So having the English track allows me the freedom to enjoy the animation more. Now I am really wanting to try to learn Japanese one day so that I can have the same enjoyment with the original Japanese voices that the English cast can give me.
Now to Bleach I came to care about the story so much that I watch it with the subs because I care about the series. I truly care about the Japanese voice actors of Bleach but I am looking forward to the English performance. I like to think of anime like it was theater. The same play can be put on by different casts. Sometimes the play is better acted with one cast than the other. I am hoping that the English cast for Bleach will be a great one. I know that they are truly following in some rather big shoes.
So one way or the other I am looking foward to see what the English cast does. It is my hope that they will get a good translation and director so that they can get a chance to shine in Bleach too.
The Pokemon joke is :LOL:

adorkable
03-19-2006, 06:28 AM
My only hope is that the English voice cast have some emotion in their words - most other dubbed anime sounds like they're just reading it off the script.

RukiaYuza
03-19-2006, 06:36 AM
Hello! :)
You know I think that I know one reason that the English and Japanese casts feel different when they do an anime. I was listening to a commentary on one of my Cowboy Bebop DVDs with Wendee Lee. I believe that she said that with the Japanese cast they practice the vocal track and go in and record the entire track nearly complete. In short they are together. With the English tracks the voice cast practices and does the story in parts. Sometimes the cast is not together either. They sometimes record their lines at different times. So I guess that is one reason why maybe the feel is different. The Japanese and English way of recording the voice track is different.

Megan
03-19-2006, 06:46 AM
My only hope is that the English voice cast have some emotion in their words - most other dubbed anime sounds like they're just reading it off the script.
Ah, yes. Or it's the kind like "forced emotion". Sometimes the English VAs get the crying parts or emotional parts and sometimes the way the output their emotions just makes me want to laugh because it sounds so pathetic.

adorkable
03-19-2006, 06:50 AM
Ah, yes. Or it's the kind like "forced emotion". Sometimes the English VAs get the crying parts or emotional parts and sometimes the way the output their emotions just makes me want to laugh because it sounds so pathetic.
Too pathetic.

Hate it. And it's like, they completely destroy the character...
bad voice = bad character (in some cases)
Every aspect matters... and the voice is important.

Megan
03-19-2006, 06:57 AM
I was watching the dubbed version of Gundam SEED DESTINY and wow, the voice acting just really threw me off. From watching the whole sub, it was awkward to hear English come out of Shinn. Then when he starts crying in the first episode about his parents it just got pathetic. My brother could get better cries out of himself and he never shows emotion.

But, if the person really loves the anime, they'll overlook it or just respect the anime enough to buy the manga to get rid of the terrible voices stuck in their head. :P

Chrono Detector
03-19-2006, 09:21 AM
I prefer watching anime in japanese. The english voice overs (most of the time) are just crap. And whats worse most of the time they have to edit out scenes, which is way beyond pathetic. And I don't mind reading subtitles.

adorkable
03-19-2006, 10:41 AM
*gasp*

What will the "Bwahahahahahaha" sound like?

*gasps again*

Hollow_Man_ct
03-19-2006, 04:53 PM
maybe BWOHAIOHAOHOAHO... in a mexican accent.. that'd be very bad indeed. but if they dub it to be directed to teens then I'll appreciate it very much, all I want is that they don't Kiddify it then I'm happy.

Rumina
03-19-2006, 09:47 PM
Dear God.... why Viz!? I knew it was bound to happen eventually but they were the last ones I wanted to get their hands on it -.-'

This means we can look forward to rediculously censored american episodes and the worst voice acting imaginable. They are going to cut out all the blood and censor rediculously pointless things and change the age group from 16+ to 10-15.

Anyone who's been keeping up with the American Naruto (also licensed by viz) may know what I mean. For instance... instead of having naruto stab himself in the hand with a Kunai lets have him hit his hand with a Doraemon lunch box. And let's cut out the Sasuke/Naruto accidental kiss scene because we're homophobic >.<'

It was all so rediculous, I hope for the first time ever they do something right because I REALLY did not want viz to taint this incredible series

adorkable
03-19-2006, 11:10 PM
Exactly to my point. If they kiddify Bleach it's just stupid. There is no point of changing major (or even minor) aspects of the anime just because it is being viewed by an American (or a new) audience.

Night Prowler
03-19-2006, 11:23 PM
Yea I truly hope that there not rubbish VC's like most Anime's turn into, although they are some that arn't so bad i.e. Trigun and .//Hack. Well I'm from England so we don't get Adult Swim so I'm hoping it goes to Rapture TV not Toonami or CN because they will totally ruin it andmake it Kiddie, as for Rapture TV they showed they're showing the Dubbed versions of Wolf's Rain (One of my Fav's) and FMA but their not kidish because there on at 8:30pm.

adorkable
03-19-2006, 11:31 PM
Would it be possible to download the dubbed version of the anime? Because if Bleach is aired in America, it is bound to be Adult Swim but I don't have that here... and I wanna see what these voices really are like.

Hotaru
03-20-2006, 01:02 AM
Would it be possible to download the dubbed version of the anime? Because if Bleach is aired in America, it is bound to be Adult Swim but I don't have that here... and I wanna see what these voices really are like.
Yeah... but I always prefer the original sound... always give the right atmosphere... altho it would be interesting to find out what the voices are like...

Rumina
03-20-2006, 02:32 AM
Would it be possible to download the dubbed version of the anime? Because if Bleach is aired in America, it is bound to be Adult Swim but I don't have that here... and I wanna see what these voices really are like.
Yeah, that's what I did with Naruto. It just takes a little looking around to find a tracker that has the torrent. There's places like torrentreactor that are bound to have it. There will very likely be ones in .avi format on the net.

As for it not going on Toonami I can't say there's much hope. Viz is notorious for filling kiddy time slots with shows that they shouldn't be seeing anyways (so they butcher the content) and for airing on cartoon network. They are also notorious for having rediculous voice actors that sound so extremely goofy it is just stupid (a good exception is Inuyasha).

I'm willing to bet we will see an hour block of naruto/bleach on toonami everyday. Two great series have been tossed into the meatgrinder together -.-; I'm still hoping for some miracle though that Viz won't do this to the series. Between the Naruto filler and censored american version I couldn't watch it anymore out of pure loathing and it'd be lame to feel that way about Bleach. But we've already got the filler... and now with viz it looks bad. I guess there's still the manga... but it's not the same :rolleye09

LoneIgadzra
03-20-2006, 05:35 AM
Better just to save all the freaking out for when we actually have some dubbed episodes in our hands to watch. We can't know much of anything until then (unless they announce the cast beforehand or something).

At the very least we'll be able to get DVD's finally, with hopefully decent subtitles and the Japanese voices intact. Just please don't use "Soul Reaper" instead of "Death God" or "Soul Cutter" instead of "Soul Slayer" (the latter being a rather better translation than the the literal, in my opinion)! I'd honestly rather petition Vis about translation decisions than VA choices since I'm not going to be watching the dub, but the chances of it having a result are probably just as miniscule. :whatevah:

Rumina
03-20-2006, 09:14 PM
Well I checked out the viz site and your first hope has already been crushed here (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?page=format&format_id=25bbdcd06c32d477f7fa1c3e4a91b032&brand_id=95b09698fda1f64af16708ffb859eab9&series_id=e2d1f0e0429fda009a8e7953771bb2e5&section=). They call them Soul Reapers. Somehow they managed to avoid mentioning Soul Slayers through all of the bleach sections they have. They didn't even mention them once.

I can live with that... but what frustrates me is how they excessively refer to Ichigo as "Strawberry". I really really hope that's not a sign of things to come in the dub. Soul Reaper Strawberry.... yeah well maybe it's just me but that sounds like the worst idea ever.

Megan
03-20-2006, 10:41 PM
Well I checked out the viz site and your first hope has already been crushed here (http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?page=format&format_id=25bbdcd06c32d477f7fa1c3e4a91b032&brand_id=95b09698fda1f64af16708ffb859eab9&series_id=e2d1f0e0429fda009a8e7953771bb2e5&section=). They call them Soul Reapers. Somehow they managed to avoid mentioning Soul Slayers through all of the bleach sections they have. They didn't even mention them once.
I can live with that... but what frustrates me is how they excessively refer to Ichigo as "Strawberry". I really really hope that's not a sign of things to come in the dub. Soul Reaper Strawberry.... yeah well maybe it's just me but that sounds like the worst idea ever.
I bought the manga and they kept calling Ichigo "Strawberry" in it. Okay, I know Ichigo means strawberry but his hair color isn't even close to red, and as you said, it's annoying. If they call him that in the dub I will laugh everytime xD. *Strawberry watch out! Strawberry, you must become a shinigami!" -_-

adorkable
03-20-2006, 11:03 PM
My god... "Strawberry this, Strawberry that?" WTF? No. Ichigo! "Ichigo this, Ichigo that." I'm fine with Soul Reapers but it'll be something to get used to (as I prefer Death God or shinigami for the anime).

Megan
03-20-2006, 11:06 PM
"God" in anything throws people off these days so I am not surprised Viz chose to use 'Soul Reapers'. Yet, I think they should of just stuck with shinigami. It's not hard to say or anything.

RukiaYuza
03-21-2006, 04:45 AM
Hello! :)
I think that it would be alright for them to use Soul Reaper. However Shinigami is not hard to say. I mean if people can think about a Jedi can't a Shinigami be understood too. I don't think that Death Gods will be used.
On another note I just read that Adult Swim is expanding. It will start earlier at 10:30 PM. So I am hoping that means the Bleach will be on AS. It just will not work earlier.

Rumina
03-21-2006, 10:56 AM
I bought the manga and they kept calling Ichigo "Strawberry" in it. Okay, I know Ichigo means strawberry but his hair color isn't even close to red, and as you said, it's annoying. If they call him that in the dub I will laugh everytime xD. *Strawberry watch out! Strawberry, you must become a shinigami!" -_-
Yeah, I know "ichi" refers to the number one but I'm not sure about how the "go" part alters it. I don't know the translation for Kurosaki. But like you said his hair isn't even close to red and I think Strawberry is just rediculous. I don't know if I would want to laugh or cry if they actually called him that in the anime >.<'

I agree if they had to avoid Death God then Shinigami would have been a better choice.

I also hope you are right Rukia, if they strictly aired it on adult swim there's alot less they would need to edit out (I still imagine there would be quite a bit) but it would be an improvement.

3HeadedMonkey
03-21-2006, 12:24 PM
Didn't anime-keep use the term "soul reaper" when they subbed Bleach?

adorkable
03-21-2006, 12:31 PM
Soul Reaper should do just fine. Death gods would cause a huge commotion and shinigami would be too confusing for the Noobies out there.

But I'm still not in for "Strawberry". Now that would just change the whole Ichigo look.

Megan
03-21-2006, 10:49 PM
It'd make Ichigo look like some cutesy character if you just hear the name, and don't know how he truly acts. (Not an insult to Ichigo or anything :P)

As for 'ichi' meaning one... that's true but ichigo is usually translated as strawberry. In the first volumes of the American release, some of the characters would straight-out call Ichigo, "Strawberry", as a nickname. Whether they go through with using that in the anime, I surely hope not.

BigSteve03
03-22-2006, 02:02 AM
I definitley dont understand the legalities of this sort of thing, but when an anime that is currently still in production gets licensed, arent only the complete seasons licensed, and the new episodes still free to fansub and what not? I seemed to remember it working that way with Inu Yasha.

trunkster
03-22-2006, 02:55 AM
I definitley dont understand the legalities of this sort of thing, but when an anime that is currently still in production gets licensed, arent only the complete seasons licensed, and the new episodes still free to fansub and what not? I seemed to remember it working that way with Inu Yasha.
Yeah that is true, Viz probably bought the rights up to before the fillers started. A good example is the first season of Dragon Ball; Funimation does not own the home DVD license rights and cannot produce the episodes on DVD besides airing them on TV. There are so many legalities to it all and who knows what Viz has the rights to unless you can see the contract.

The fansub groups that stopped subbing it have a policy not to sub animes that are license. They may not get in trouble but many groups have a moral code that fansubbing a license anime will take away from sales for the license owners. Which is true in many ways but heck I’ll buy Bleach once it comes out on DVD (though if the sub sucks then maybe not).

Cousinit1686
03-22-2006, 04:33 AM
If Viz makes a good dub of this, good job.

If they make a bad dub, shame on them.

I don't really care how they turn out, if they're good I'll watch them with passion! If they're bad it'll be just another bad dub added to my list, and I'll watch it occassionally to see how bad the voices are and laugh.

Why can't they just keep it the way they are, in Japanese! Make people read subs, it'd be cool!

Shinigami_mooman
03-22-2006, 05:02 AM
i kinda doubt it will be a good dub, but well have to see i geuss

ChansteR
03-22-2006, 05:25 AM
dubs are only okay, otherwise, american voices just dont work where japanese voices go in so perfectly and subbing will still go on by DB most likely since they still sub naruto and it is licensed

grimm_fans
03-24-2006, 04:20 AM
Boo Lunar is dropping bleach

Chrono Detector
03-24-2006, 08:48 AM
It sucks that Lunar dropped Bleach. They were my favourite Bleach subbers. Oh well, I guess we still have DB, they are still subbing Naruto, I don't see them not subbing Bleach if its licensed....

Grrrr... stupid Viz Entertainment. They had to ruin it.

RukiaYuza
03-24-2006, 08:54 AM
Hello! :)
Well you can not blame VIZ for wanting Bleach. Inuyasha can not last forever. They have had success with Naruto this year. This year also marks the end of the run for Fullmetal Alchemist and Samurai Champloo. So the way I see it they see that Bleach is popular already and they want to have another popular property. Now I am truly hoping that Bleach will be on Adult Swim so that it can be left nearly completely alone. I am also very interested to know who will be the English voices. In short I am looking at this as a whole new way to watch Bleach instead of it being a bad thing. And DB will keep doing the fan sub so I will get to have both.

krumpage
03-26-2006, 04:52 AM
Toonami would edit the anime to hell, I hope that it airs on Adult swim if anything. I kind of don't even want to see it dubbed after hearing Naruto voice actors, but hopefully it's good...

i know what you mean. Am i the only guy who finds narutos dubbed voice annoying

LoBeS
03-26-2006, 06:55 AM
i hope it doesnt take too long to get to australia....im definately gonna buy the whole series just to have in my collection.

maybe they will have it dubbed and subbed on dvd. that would be sweet

WizKid77
03-26-2006, 08:48 AM
i hope it doesnt take too long to get to australia....im definately gonna buy the whole series just to have in my collection.
maybe they will have it dubbed and subbed on dvd. that would be sweet
The prob would have it dubbed and subbed on DVD. They usually do that.

ashuran
03-26-2006, 08:50 AM
ill still dl it im apirate arrr jk but i will still dl it

Barane
03-27-2006, 02:00 AM
dude that just sucks...i swear to god if they do anything to Ichigo's voice me and my girl gang will stop watching Bleach.

Miriya
03-27-2006, 08:34 AM
Just an observation (which I hope wasn't already posted), but now that Viz has the licence, we'll probably hear some of the same voice actors from Inuyasha and anyone else that has ties to the Ocean Group...

mmm, Scott McNeil and Kirby Morrow...

RukiaYuza
03-27-2006, 09:01 AM
Hello! :)
I just looked up Ocean Group and I found that they did work for the Transformers: Beast Wars and Machines, X-Men Evolution, Gundum, Inuyasha, and Ranma 1\2 to name a few. I know of some of the voices from Inuyasha and the two Transformers. I still feel optimistic about the dub. I hope that they will get some of the best of their studio. I kind of think that Scott McNeill would make a good Renji. David Kaye who voices Sesshomaru and Megatron would be great for a part too. I hope that they will treat Bleach like Inuyasha and even better.

IsshinMan_Hero
03-27-2006, 09:15 AM
i know what you mean. Am i the only guy who finds narutos dubbed voice annoying

I actually started downloading Naruto for awhile then when I heard it was on Cartoon Network I was estatic until I heard it and now I no longer download them. Seriously there are some Dubs that I really do like. Trigun was a good dubbing, I loved Vash and Wolfwoods voices. Inuyasha is good to me, I love his own voice and Sesshomaru's. Basically there are going to be voices in the Dub that will probably make us cringe since we have been use to the Japanese voices for 72 episodes that we just find them more fitting since we're so use to them. And that their just amazing. But anyhow, I just figure that if they Dub it, I'll still watch it and just my love for it will drop down increasingly but I will still watch it. It's a good series, good plot, good characters, and even if the voices change, it won't change much.

LoneIgadzra
03-28-2006, 03:54 AM
Hello! :)
I just looked up Ocean Group and I found that they did work for the Transformers: Beast Wars and Machines, X-Men Evolution, Gundum, Inuyasha, and Ranma 1\2 to name a few. I know of some of the voices from Inuyasha and the two Transformers. I still feel optimistic about the dub. I hope that they will get some of the best of their studio. I kind of think that Scott McNeill would make a good Renji. David Kaye who voices Sesshomaru and Megatron would be great for a part too. I hope that they will treat Bleach like Inuyasha and even better.
Inuyasha was definitely not bad. I prefer it over the original Japanese actually (particularly the amusing and goofy style of whoever voices Kagome, and Inuyasha's rather less thin voice). However, if the guy who voices Koga (and I think Duo in Gundam Wing) does a SINGLE voice in Bleach, someone will die.

RukiaYuza
03-28-2006, 04:04 AM
Hello! :)
May I ask why someone will die if Scott McNeil does a voice. I have not heard anything that was negative about him or his work. Does he play characters who die a lot? One of the last parts he played that I know of outside of Inuyasha was Ed and Al's father in Fullmetal Alchemist.

LoneIgadzra
03-28-2006, 11:32 PM
Hello! :)
May I ask why someone will die if Scott McNeil does a voice. I have not heard anything that was negative about him or his work. Does he play characters who die a lot? One of the last parts he played that I know of outside of Inuyasha was Ed and Al's father in Fullmetal Alchemist.
Eh? His I think his voice is mind-blowingly annoying, and no one I know who's heard him in action has disagreed with me.

Dragar
03-28-2006, 11:34 PM
Sorry if I interrupted anything, but can someone tell me when Bleach will come out in english?

Miriya
03-29-2006, 04:33 AM
Eh? His I think his voice is mind-blowingly annoying, and no one I know who's heard him in action has disagreed with me.


I really like his work, and the amount of range that he has an a VA.

And RukiaYuza....I was thinking the same thing about Scott as Renji. O_o

Byakuya7
03-30-2006, 09:18 PM
Im not sure if this has been posted before but...Bleach will air on Adult swim this fall, heres the link.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=8643

RukiaYuza
03-30-2006, 10:02 PM
Hello! :)
This is good news. I feel a lot better knowing this. I feel that now there will not be too much take out. Some things will be taken out for time purposes but I feel that most of the content will be there. I know that very little was taken from Fullmetal Alchemist, Inuyasha, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, and Samurai Champloo.

Byakuya7
03-30-2006, 10:03 PM
Yes, I also feel that they put bleach in its rightful place. I don't think too much will be censored or edited, which is good.

chakra25
03-30-2006, 10:31 PM
Yokata! It's nice to hear that Bleach will be airing on Adult Swim... Adult Swim has very little censorship. So most of the blood will be in tact. I'll give them more credit if they can remove the bras on Soi Fong's/Youruichi's outfit. LOL!

LoneIgadzra
03-31-2006, 04:47 PM
Now if only they'd use "death god" instead of "soul reaper". The former sounds unfamiliar and badass, the latter is a cliche [how the hell do you accents in Windows?] in English-speaking culture. I suppose in practice it doesn't sound so bad as I read synopses and such on the press releases about this, but still. It's an over-anglicization IMHO, changing something cool to something more domestic, and weakens the show.

Reefern86
03-31-2006, 05:18 PM
I don't know about weak'ning it, but I would prefer they use death god as well.

fettel
03-31-2006, 06:13 PM
well, since its on AS, most of the anime will be intact. which is really good. while i do agree 'death god' sounds way better than 'soul reaper', it had to be done cuz america is ****ed up. 'soul cutter' just doesnt work though. that sounds kiddy right there. and as for VA, since its Viz, we should be hearing a lot of familiar voices. i mean, i went through so much anime this week( spring break baby!), and i picked out at least 15 people with the same VA. since i am hoping for better VA work and quality than with Naruto for Bleach, im thinkin up a list of VA that probably wont happen, but would fit pretty well. its only a few, mostly cuz i havent heard too many good female VA, and cuz there are like too many people in bleach that get episode time.

Ichigo - Vash(Trigun), or maybe Kazuma(Scryed)
Ishida- Ryuhou(Scryed), or lets see... this sucks! i cant think of him now! i guess if ishida wasnt so young, Jean(Samurai Champloo) could play him. Abarai- i had this one in my head when i was typing the other stuff. crap.
Mayuri- the guy who voiced that shadow guy in Vamp Hunter D: Bloodlust. the one guy who takes out Nolt by stabbing his shadow. just seemed like a good choice for a mad scientist dude.
Yama-jii - the VA who plays the Cheif on Stand Alone Complex(Ghost in a Shell). at least the VA can do a decent old guy.
matsumoto- the VA who plays the woman in the purple dress that came off of the Sand Steamer and tried to kill Vash.(epi 7 or so i think.) she did a decent grown woman voice.
Byakuya- lets see, maybe the VA for the Commander(Scryed), or hmm...

yeah, it aint big. and i forgot quite a few. i cant think of too many women voices, and also kid voices. hitsu plays a bigger part later in the anime(and manga, and OVA). and ichigo's family plays an average role. oh well. Viz has a pretty good list of VA. and they usually have a few gems play big parts in any anime they do. just have to wait and see. if the VA for Naruto, sakura, Gai, etc. make it into Bleach, well.... it wouldnt be too pretty.